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Never have been to B&R. How is the your mix of FP and Yi Gong btw? Does it give any flavour to your ice cream? Do they complement each other?

Actually same should be for FP too. It's all the same.

No, Ya Mu says you must practice virtue: Intent alone doesn't do it. It takes Virtue, raising of the energy body vibration rate, and the practice of Listening. Without the practice of Virtue it is extremely difficult if not impossible to raise the energy body vibration rate (purifying the energy body). Same goes for the practice of inner energetic development. And without practicing Listening we cannot develop discernment And as far as I understand there is 500 hours program for healing skills.

Ya Mu's stuff is VERY serious as far I as realized. You must practice virtue and practice a lot every day for healing, yes. In FP they say you can "go out" and enjoy. This is good. And in FP may be one hour is enough even for healing others. In S-M 3-5 hours. But I not thinking of healing yet. Just mentioned.

Yes, there is the choice actually. Ya Mu is cool and I just forgot to mention him and his S-M system. Somebody who did FP and after switched to S-M said that with Ya Mu's transmission he has much more energy level. But every system has something better than another. In S-M one must practice every day for 3-5 hours and if not the energy dissipating what not the case with FP. With FP they say you can practice one hour only and miss even few days of practice. And there are not only Taoist masters. Terry says that FP is very compatible with Tibetan yoga and may be tantra. It's just here people choose Taoist arts. FP can facilitate any other system one chooses. Comparing systems I meant those systems which have been released on DVDs. And there are few Taoist sect available who provide transmission. I just can not travel at the moment. And was looking system on DVD. The good with FP it stays with you and good for health and spirit development and compatible with many many other systems. We need some 12 months for foundation building and then they say it can be practiced for only 60 minutes or even less per day. And one will be able to heal himself and others. So I stick with FP solely for awhile

This is Interesting question. I have never had lights or anything since I have been practiced. Just when I relax and concentrate ih my head I feel just peace there and it's like nice feeling of empty space...And I have more clarity As for lights.. visions... entities... aliens.... The Tao which can be named is not eternal Tao.

And yes, I myself am thinking. May be better to master FP to some degree and only then switch to SYG? It is may be good to mix it when one is already mastered to some solid level and then add another BFP's system. I believe it makes sense rather than mix when one is not mastered. Any good thoughts on this?

There are 18 levels with 36 meds in each. Anyhow I don't think anybody here going to do all of them. May be when first 2 are mastered then practice the rest during dream time, I dunno. The name of the DVD series is Chikung for Health. And people really can benefit from it. That's probably was the idea to release first level which is good and safe for all people. Better than nothing.

Leif, they say of transmission not only in magic... But is not BFP magic? Anyhow Tradition should be the bridge between a person and Tao. Is Tao only the Emptiness? Tao is the Path too. Tao is vehicle too. Tradition is vehicle. You can find in Taoist texts how high level masters criticize distorted Chan adepts of which just trying to still the mind attaining the false emptiness. The transmission of spiritual lineage is the rule of all authentic lineages in yoga/tantra/Taoism. In yoga they say no guru no yoga. They call it deeksha or shaktipat which is supernatural divine force. This is the engine of Tradition. I was considering Kunlun because it is powerful and short. It were my thoughts when I heard of xxx meds in FP. But may be I did not undesrstand right. 18 levels may be 18 seated and standing in total plus dynamic forms. Anyhow that person gives some precious information about meds. It was said that 5 minutes are enough for static and not to same meds for more than 6 months. And good to mix BFP stuff. That's why for some people SYG seems to be more powerful after FP. And vice versa. I can do SYG and how many fp meds I can. Good meds, good lineage. The thing here is might be that some lineages are purely spiritual traditional and another ones are half way traditional. You can compare them only having experience in both. Otherwise it is guessing what is dogma and what is not. Who has experience in authentic traditional Taoist lineages? People doing qigong here mostly, mixing stuff and judging and sometime spreading their believes. Peace

That quote describes the path, the method, the spiritual technology, the Path of all paths. And you are so right when you say that what it takes to get there is to just keep doing our chosen practice. Transcend the self to reach the Self. As my guru taught, no one can meditate for you. Yes, but why then in Oneness they do Deeksha? In Yoga - Shaktipat. Dogma?

I cite Jerry Johnson's words from his book on Taoist Alchemy: "Each true Daoist magic magical lineage has "Celestial Guardians" Who are assigned by the Heavenly Realm, to oversee the esoteric teachings of that specific spiritual lineage. These powerful Spirit Entities are responsible for maintaining the spiritual integrity of the sacred teachings of that particular Daoist sect. In advanced alchemical teaching, when certain information has been downloaded from the master to the disciple... it is the responsibility of these celestial Guardians to open certain energetic portals in order to facilitate the successful manifestation of that particular magical teaching."

I am not sure. I can not say yes or no. But in the most lineages they say about transmission. It's not just practicing. Sect... hmm... may be it is not always just a group of people? It is energy behind it. Many teachings akin to Dzogchen were received from enlightened beings in high state of mind by spiritual adepts. That's why I stressed attention on Taoist texts. Dao Yin without Tradition is just callisthenics. Tough question

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Tilopa (988-1069) Tilopa (Tibetan; Sanskrit: Talika, 988 - 1069) was an Indian tantric practitioner and mahasiddha. He discovered the mahamudra process, a set of spiritual practices that greatly accelerated the process of attaining bodhi (enlightenment). He is regarded as the human founder of the Kagyu lineage of Tibetan Buddhism and is, in effect, the Buddha Vajradhara ... ...During a meditation he received a vision of Buddha Vajradhara and, according to legend, the entire mahamudra was directly transmitted to Tilopa. After having received the transmission, Tilopa embarked on a wandering existence and started to teach. He appointed Naropa, his most important student, as his successor. http://www.garchen.net/lineage.html Just interesting.

That's I wanted to clear up too. When they say Tradition it is not only scriptures and yoga postures or qigong. Tradition is Energy. By doing certain practice with certain approach one should connect to this energy.

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Diagrams? :)t NO. I wanted to know how it is spiritual. I was said that GMDW's himself said that FP is not much about spirituality and it is healing art. I probably expected something different. It took time to clarify and created some confusion. And you seem to think that I am trying to attack the system. No. I am not. This is just specific system with unique alchemy diff from Taoist or Buddhist. Also I was given another information how to do meds. Diff people say diff things about the system. And when I ask questions you getting angry on me. Okey. I do not want to continue such conversation. I would better ask somebody else who is kind to answer my questions and do not attack my personality

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Garry, I did not say anything to you. I asked about FP in this thread. And what is wrong with my questions/attitude? I have experience in many blogs on taoism/yoga/gnostic christianity/tantra. All questions like I asked are normal there. Questions about Tradition and transmission in it. This is first blog where people reply with aggression. Sadly

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Cool, will do it. My is reading Kunlun book. I got it 8 months ago and my put it on shelf. Now reading it and want to give it a try.

Which is the JB's post about combining both methods? I can't see it

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Why not to read BKF's book on Longevity Breathing? He recommends 70 % to max capacity inhale and exhale.