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Then there is the breath in between which is 100% in and out.... I suppose out and in 100 % breath in between. In FP there in no full breath IN and OUT in between. For example, 50 percents out, breath in to top again, full out, full in, and 40 percents out...

Sifu Garry, cool video to understand the speed of BFP meds.

And I would try those 690 AD but very f... expensive

Sure, but it does not mean that SYG is deeper. It's just different. In the beginning SYG is very grounding and balancing the body and mind, and some advanced FP meds are very energetic. Terry warned few times not to do some of them before going to bed. But you can do number one from vol.7 which is sleeper med. I only suggested that advanced FP meds might be very powerful and that's why vol. 1-3 are followed by them. But anyway they seem to have diff alchemy. I dont know why is that. Terry says it is nothing about channels and MCO. Just purging the mind. Okey, I will try like you, main stress for SYG and some meds from FP.

Garry, should one start with BOTH SYG1 seated AND stand or only seated in the beginning for a month? Or both SYG1, then both SYG2. Or both SYG1, then after a month SYG2 PLUS to SYG1 and less time for each but more meds at one session? Some people say they were sitting for 1 hour, my legs are getting numb after half hour and I stand up for SYG1 for 20-30 minutes.

Tao, is there breath % in 690 A.D. meds? As far as I know GMDW said that FP and BFSYG are equal. But it seems Terry Dunn has released only basics of FP. So vol. 1 & 2 which you have done are probably the foundation of FP for the more advanced FP meds. And may be FP is more cumulative in nature than others BFP arts but I dont know, it what I wanted to clear up but no one knows exactly. May be Burning Palm is more powerful and shorter at the same time . In his very first posts Terry said that FP is purely medical qigong which is "safety net" for other BFP arts. There is martial advanced forms and application too but it was said that it is not going to be released on DVDs. Still not sure... May be SYG... And plus some FP standing forms from vols. 3 & 4 for 30 minutes. Have you done vol.7, Tao? Thanks for your overview on the subj

Is it only on my screen Garry disappearing? Was thinking of both FP and SYG and honestly having tried both thinking it is too much practicing both.... There is so much stuff to do!!! BUT I recall Garry mentioned Burning Palm system and that he even liked it more and it is shorter. And I wonder when it is going to be out? I mean BP meditations. I have 2 DVDs of SYG and leave it for the right time. At the moment FP takes all my time.

but what is wrong with it? yeas, i too have noticed it. but it might be process of cleansing. i drink lot of water to assist the process of detoxification.

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But what's wrong with soya juice? Organic? I like the taste. Good to mix with protein for breakfast

Is it he shou wu? Ron Teeguarden disclosed a lot of material on this stuff.

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Okey... no bother... gotta burn all books and cut off internet. I wanted clarify difference between FP and SYG. People say it different. If I just shut up I won't know what to do. One say one thing another one says another....

Okey... shut up. All clarifications finally clarified

Yes, I see there are moving and standing in FP. But I have not elaborated it to that extent to understand what it is for... In SYG1 we create LDT thus cultivating Ming as I believe. What we do in FP I have no clue. Year, it def works some way. But looks like Tao Yin. IMHO

Does it create the "golden elixir"? Do you know what is it?

Have yoru experienced the transformative effects of what you call Nei Dan, or "Alchemy in Taoist Arts"? if so, what style of Taoist alchemic art have you practiced? Certainly, I have not. Otherwise I would not ask you questions here. But I am referring to the theory. We have to use appropriate terms as we regard taoist alchemy arts here. The definition and purposes of Tao Yin are: According to this definition of Tao Yin it is clear that it is used for health purposes and for balancing body and mind functions. i.e. sedating, calming and relaxing nervous system and balancing organ's function. It does not have the same transformation purpose as Nei Dan has and purifies the mind and heart (Xing, Yin). This is typical Xing cultivation method based on the regulation and cultivation of post-heaven qi. It does not produce the "golden elixir". Nei Dan ( Taoist Alchemy) cultivates (nourishes) pre-heaven qi (Ming, Yang), produces "golden elixir" and unites Ming (Yang) and Xing (Yin), transforming person on deep spiritual level and thus leading one to attaining the immortality. I have never stumbled upon the definition of Tao Yin as Nei Dan. And I refer to the taoist classic scripture where Lu Tun Pin is asking his immortal teacher about true method of cultivation and answering his teacher criticizes Tao Yin among many other ones as one of the false method of genuine internal cultivation. If you want me to cite it I would need more time to find it. As I do not read it in English it will take me time to find it in English. What is not Neidan? http://atouchofancientszhouyi.blogspot.ie/2010/10/what-is-not-neidan.html

Thanks for clarification! I think that's what many people want to clarify finally. FP Qigong seems to be DAO YIN healing system in BFP arts which has its own healing aspects but as far as I know Dao Yin is not the same transformative as Alchemy (Nei Dan) in Taoist arts.

Yes, agree. FP is very subtle and sublime. It does something for me def. I would say I am more total. And somebody asking me few times in PM about sleep. I say just to add delta waves before sleep. This works VERY VERY cool for me, sometime go to bed at 1 a.m. and wake up at 6 - 7 am. Cant recall when I had bad dream, much less negative emotions. That's said let's practice and stop indulging! P.s. I am not sure yet about mixing SYG and FP. I continue stand for one method until it well established. They have diff alchemy. I would better practice the basics of vol.1 of FP than going for SYG and back and forth... But as you have huge experience in meditation might be it is good for you. FP is huge system. Even there loads of stuff to do.

I just wonder if there any historical data on the Doo family and methods? When I mention the system people asking sometime and doubt the lineage and system and I do not know what to answer. They say if it is not described in Dao Zhan then it's new age stuff and lineage is not legit. I am not that much interested in history rather than in efficiency of the system but nevertheless it would be interesting to know more about any historical data. Garry mentioned something of the Wudang roots of the BFSYG. And only I know that FP was created by FDD during his travelling throughout China and Tibet and has some yogic influence and different alchemy from SYG. SYG seems to have more purely Taoist alchemy and FP is different in some ways. Sifu Terry mentioned earlier that FP does not rely on Taoist map but suits well the theory of the Book of Changes. Some people PM and ask me about system. Guys, I dunno. You can ask your questions here. I have very small experience in SYG and I can't say I am expert in FP. But I would advise to begin with one method and do not mix it with anything else. I think it took me time to understand it. I think these methods first heal all deviations which were in personal karma. Including those ones from wrong methods done before and clears up blockages. I sleep def better after I left all other methods and stopped mixing things.

Just was discussing it with someone else in PM... I think it is important to realize that certain practice has certain alchemy and mix might create what they call straying of chi. I can recall myself few years ago. I used to mix 2 types of yoga and qigong + MA. Only now I realized how I was sick. Now I think that it is not about how many methods but one method in legit lineage. And commitment to it. Even there people want to mix sometime. This creates confusion. Ego wants more and straightaway. Some people mix methods of different lineages. Some people think that they should add microcosmic orbit or anything else from books like Mantek Chia. I don't think it useful anymore. It can only exhaust energy. And slowdown efficiency of the lineage method one should stick with. This is one of the common mistakes I think.

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Cheya, thanks for update. If I don't mistake 8 extraordinary channels subsume pre-heaven chi. And if I don't mistake it requires transmission, I mean it should be a lineage practice. Probably you develop post-heaven chi. I have this DVD and it's great. Paul Young holds classes in my city. But as I committed in another qigong I leave it for the right time for it. I don't think it's good to mix practices. But keep updating it. It would be interesting to know how you are getting on. And remember that qigong and alchemy are not the same things. We can loose our time for secondary things. BUT TC MIGHT help with other practices, and as I said I would practice it later to see it benefits.

It takes me about 12-15 minutes normally to complete each med on vol.1. And 15-20 on vol.2. Now I decided to do numbers 1,2 and 4 from vol.1 following by 2 MSW+warm up meds . It takes about 1 hour 45 minutes. I believe it is better to spend more time for each med to allow it to light on alchemical process. Just my opinion/query.