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The more the better! I do SYG 3 times. Plus FP once. I realized something what was doing wrong before. I mixed BFP with another stuff! I think this is such a disrespect to the lineage and egoistic approach. But we have to open the heart to the system we do. But I hope FP is good with SYG! I gonna do moving long forms from vol. 3 and 4 only once a day. I did taichi until now and I think what a f...ck to do it if there is so cool forms in FP!

No, I had been doing another one. But I have started this one today. Want to see what it can do. It seems to nourish kidneys. Must be good stuff. But it should be done the whole life.

Garry, thanks, it is very good we can talk here and to get more info about this system and its aspects. I did not know SYG has wudang roots. It's interesting to know.

Yes, I read your post. The title of the book is Taoist Alchemy!!! But you are talking of qigong. Alchemy begins with nourishing yuan qi (xiang tian) but qigong works only with post-heaven qi (hou-tian). I should not share my view on immortality as this thread is about JAJ's book and stuff in it.

It seems to be very good qigong. Nourishes kidneys and prolong life. Lost treasure of Shaolin. More info: http://www.w1ng.com/wing-chun-qigong-kidney-breathing-returns-to-source/

Do you know anybody who attained immortallity by doing qigong and by reading books?

I see no point to mix up the stuff. Qigong is not alchemy, just you have to admit it

Green Tiger, it seems to be only qigong! If it is NOT complete WHAT is the point to engage in it?

I have this DVD on my shelf. Did you practice it?

1) Is that complete system in the book? 2) what is it like - seated meds, stands, qigong movements, visualizations, breath? 3) Is it authentic or made up stuff?

Guys, we WANT to know your RESULTS, PLEASE.

I too have started SYG Going to do level 1 for 2-3 hours a day

I agree about intention. I think there are few levels in this. And I can't make judgements what is right or not, it could be just my perception. Guan Yin is another name of buddhist Avalokitesvara, Bodhisattva of Compassion. All things are empty: Nothing is born, nothing dies, nothing is pure, nothing is stained, nothing increases and nothing decreases. So, in emptiness, there is no body, no feeling, no thought, no will, no consciousness. There are no eyes, no ears, no nose, no tongue, no body, no mind. There is no seeing, no hearing, no smelling, no tasting, no touching, no imagining. There is nothing seen, nor heard, nor smelled, nor tasted, nor touched, nor imagined. There is no ignorance, and no end to ignorance. There is no old age and death, and no end to old age and death. There is no suffering, no cause of suffering, no end to suffering, no path to follow. There is no attainment of wisdom, and no wisdom to attain. The Bodhisattvas rely on the Perfection of Wisdom, and so with no delusions, they feel no fear, and have Nirvana here and now. .

Okey. I agree. But just proposed another look on it. You could get this material on ebay for let's say 10 $ from somebody else. Anyway this money would go to some dude. And to pay 10 $ for postage to him. And let's say one has only 10 $ for food for next month. What is the good here - not to practice for a month and wait or practice? What is your look on it? And must you buy a material from lineage holder or if you buy it on ebay is it SIN?

Garry, I just want to feel good myself and be happy. That' all I want from a system. I do not even think of energy.... I used to ask about types of energy but it is only ideas behind it... Because there are diff systems and many many crap stuff on the market ( i don't mean certain system )

Sometimes I notice it but sometimes it is only thoughts of good and bad. If someone has karmic imprints then it is just his karma. People are people. That's why I mentioned classic taoist texts which say clearly that cultivation of Tao is not the way of morality but transformation of energy. Awareness comes after one nourishes his energy. But yes one needs good karma to obtain the method. We are making things too complicated now and screwing it up. Did Goddess give this practice to humanity to make money on it? This is good issue. If someone does not have money to pay for materials and doesn't have money even for food but want to practice? And not stealing it but just got chance to get online? And at the same time someone wants more money for materials and increases the price? What is the good and bad?

Alles, you gave the link: http://tibetan.tripod.com/ch-phoen.htm Where it is said: She told him that people that were evil, sinful, or dishonest would be rejected by the meditations, and they will not be benefited by them. However, if the person were good, the meditations would provide them with Mystical Heavenly self-healing positive energies so powerful that if he or she has a terminal illness the meditations will teach that person's body how to heal itself. If the person is good, the meditations would not only heal them and provide them with perfect health, but it would allow them to have such positive energy within them that they could lay their hands on and heal others She reminded him that the meditations would reject those that are evil, sinful, or dishonest, and that only the pure would benefit from the mediations. I too don't like the conception of sin and good and evil. It "stinks" with dualistic Christian philosophy, Alles. Why do we talk of this? I just have read the article and did not like some conceptions in it. And asked myself which conceptions does this school belong to. I am not sure if we should discuss it here. I am just saying I have mix of conceptions in my head. I don't identify myself with negative things but I am not sure that I am pure enough for this practice.

In SYG the very first level is building the LDT (ming). In FP level 1 it seems to me it builds kidneys meridians too and brings energy to the central channel. As well as purges three main centers (mind, body, speech???). May be the practice is just the tool. I only did not understand the conception of sin as we talking of taoist practice. Practice should eliminate all this and help with these issues but not saying that "sinful people" and "not pure in heart" are rejected! All people have sin. If they not they would not be born. All people are lacking purity. This statement of rejection makes no sense for me and I doubt it is taoist. If you read taoist scriptures of taoist classics (Lu Dunpin) you will see that such methods of artificial purity are criticized. The high level yogi of Tibet Milarepa had a sin of killing dozens of people and he became the saint. He got the right method.

Taoism is not the same! Purification of heart is not the same process in all sects. Heart/mind subsume xing (yin), and energy is ming (yang). Only cultivation of yang (ming) purifies the heart, mind (xing). But not vice versa. And not all sects have ming methods. In some of the sects they cultivate the heart only. This is false method according to the alchemical taoism. We have to be clear on what are the "meditative practices". There is no word as meditation in alchemical taoism. I don't know anything about Ching Chung sect and can't argue here. That is why I asked couple of times here if BFP methods cultivate xing and ming, prenatal and postnatal. Only if one cultivates ming one can be pure and then speech will be reflection, I consent. But methods are not the same.

He seemed to be taoist monk. But is purely buddhist conception of purity. Above I quoted the taoists conception of Hun and Po souls and where the purity coming from. The taoist conception is to unite yin and yang (xing and ming) and there is nothing as to be sinful and not pure. This is mixing things up. If we do taoist cultivation we should discern taoist terminology and scriptures and use taoist terms. Otherwise it is not taoist and only creates confusion.

If he came from Shaolin he could not be taoist. He was taught Doo family's taoist neikung on the basis of which he created FP chikung.

From buddhist Goddess. There is no conception of sin in taoism. And the main book with theory which is recommended is buddhist.

Do you really believe that your deepest desire is impure? I only said that Buddhism teaching is not my path. I tried to read many books on buddhism and I did not stick with any of them. But I love taoist philosophy and view on the path. Any practice is connected with certain philosophy. It seems that FP was derived as buddhist path and only people with good virtues will benefit from it . And I just have said that I am not the man of good virtue. I still have other desires and I am not 100 percent honest. That's part of my karma and that's how i can survive and continue my path, what helps me to practice. But the path is not only to practice qigong. it might mean the life of virtue in buddhist sense of it. I do not say FP is not for me, it's just what resonate more with certain person. I am fan of taoists philosophy and view and practice. As Sifu Terry says FP does not suite taoist map. Here many people said wow only after couple weeks of practice and I can not say wow after 6 months. It helped, my mood is better and more stable, better sleep, i quit some bad habits but most karmic still there and coming up and it did not change much person. I just live how I like and do what i feel.

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