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Can both systems be learned via DVD's and Skype till the end? I like both of them but I need to know how far I could go with it not seeing the teacher in person. There are no FP's system teachers in Europe and for some people it would be just easier to meet the SYG teacher sometimes. It just happened some people started from FP. But Sifu Terry is not going to Europe. And I have no idea how these systems are complicated on more advanced levels. You did not provide us much with this info. FP seems to be more buddhist thing. I do not think I have enough virtues in my life for buddhism teaching at the moment. I do not understand the conception of being "sinful" and yes I still have sin. And I will not change so quickly. That's just I am. I would say taoism is much closer to me in general. SYG is good for grounding. And as you said as one can't sit quietly one will not be able to move right. I am not sure i am doing FP right.

Tao Stillness, that's well said! Regarding the heart purity in taoism they say about two souls Hun and Po :

Steve, I am not sure how it works exactly but I just have noticed I have less negativity in mind. I would recommend you guys to listen to audio meditations programs by Jeffrey Thompson alfa, tetta and delta waves meditations. Is seems to work well for me and I have benefits from it.

Sifu Terry, what is the transmission in BFP? Is it only to be pure in the heart and doing meds right? There is no certain philosophy in BFP, no scriptures, and how one can be sure that he or she is pure? The conception of karma is so vague. I like C. Castaneda's perspective on it but BFP seems to be more buddhist in philosophy. But it is taoist at the same time. And even they differ. Is there moral sense of it? You advised to read few books on this but there are diff perceptions on it. May be it is even more important than just doing meds correctly

He is very busy. You can use search for some phrases typing "zen-bear" at the find the author option. As far as I realized the answer to your question was that one CAN practice FP and other BFP arts at the same time as these arts are under the same BFP umbrella. But Garry says it is better to choose FP or SYG. Sometime they say different things but truth somewhere in the middle But it is fine to practice FP and Red Dragon or other kung fu arts as they are shorter than SYG

Steve, thanks for posting of your clairvoyant's observations. That's very interesting. But I wonder why you can't make these observations from your own perception? Is it so subtle that you can't feel or perceive it yourself? Even that kundalini raising up?

ChiDragon, what about metabolism with HS? And I did not get it how you do this HS. Is it special HS for cardio or part of your qigong? I have diff static stances in my qigong. I do not think i am going for additional to my qigong HS. Going to get rebounder

Garry, I can't see dao yin right now in FP. But I feel I NEED some stretches right now. Explain me, why I should not do dao yin if it helps me to stretch body and relax.

That guy does ashtanga yoga as I realized. I left all other stuff of the exception of yin yoga (tao yin) asanas which are good for relaxation strengthen kidneys

Forgive me, please. But as you can see many people benefited from FP having experience in other systems. And here almost everyone doing something else alongside with FP: yoga, tantra or TCC. Sifu Terry recommends TCC as good addition to FP! Just want to share... Today I have posted about FP and BFP on a yoga and qigong thread on another (not in english forum) and mentioned about these systems having said it is high level yogic system and different from diluted yoga and qigong known in the West. One guy who replied was very crude and called this system as Chinese crap and mix of stuff because FP was created by Feng Tao Te while traveling in Tibet and India. And that chinese people are masters of stealing arts from other traditions. There are so many cruel people. Sad

They say rebounding is very good for cardio. I am going to get one.

To be more precise there are: In Natha Sampradaya the yoga practice is presented by a mantra-yoga, hatha-yoga, laya-yoga and raja-yoga, as well as аshtanga-yoga (Yama, Niyama, Asana, Pranayama, Pratyahara, Dharana, Dhyana and Samadhi) Hatha-yoga Following methods enter into hatha-yoga: sukshma -vyayama, shat-karma (cleaning technics such as netti, basti, nauli, trataka, kapalabhati), asana (steady position of a body), pranayama (the control of vital energy over respiratory exercises), mudra ("stamp") and bandha (muscular "lock"). These methods inter-direct a stream of a prana in the central Sushumna channel and contribute to awakening of sleeping spiritual power (Kundalini Shakti) which rises upwards on the central channel and joins with supreme-consciousness (Shiva). This union of spiritual energy and consciousness is called hatha-yoga. There are many definitions of term the "hatha-yoga" in classical Nathas' texts, some of them belowed: Surya-Chandra, Prana- Аpana, Dakshina-Vama, Yamuna-Ganga, Ida -Pingala, Shiva-Shakti, Kula-Akula, Dvayta -Advayta, etc. The ultimate goal of hatha -yoga is realized by total unity of contrasts and attainment of ideal balance (samarasya). So sukshma -vyayama, shat-karma (cleaning technics such as netti, basti, nauli, trataka, kapalabhati), asana (steady position of a body) follow by pranayama And I suppose we have our own asana and pranayama in Flying Phoenix Celestial Healing Chi Kung

To me, making the heart to work even just a little bit harder is not ideal for the heart. The ideal condition is to make the heart beats slower and pumps more blood at one complete heartbeat cycle According to your logic even walking is no good at all. How long can you stand in low horse stance? Five minutes? Is it enough training for the heart conditioning?

As far as I know that bandhas are recommended after couple years of asana and pranayama. Pranayama and asana should go alongside Nadi Shodhana is recommended even by Ayurveda for cleansing gross and subtle bodies and for soothing and bringing doshas back to balance. Probably I did to much and much energy is not always good. Anyway I am not going to mix up this stuff. As it might be different ways with different approaches and body might need to adjust to the process. The more processes the more stress for the body

Steve, actually I tried already to do pranayma breath along with FP and I mentioned that before. I quit doing pranayama as I felt little agitated. I dont know why, may be there were some other factors... Anyway i felt like it was diff energies. It is more subtle one from this qigong. And pranayam is kinda gives more gross feeling afterwards.

I used to fast for 24-36 hours few years ago but not anymore. Just don't feel comfortable with fast. I like to practice in the mornings and evenings and food is kinda prize for me. It grounds me. I am vata dosha and if i have empty stomach i get agitated a little. But sometime I eat less during day or only drinking milk or tea for 24 hours

too fast cleansing can be harmful. there is gut and stomach flora which have been built for decades of animal protein consumption. and if you suddenly halt taking it than it can be bad for your body. body does not like sudden changes.

Also there are bandhas in yoga to activate chakras and central channel and thus to rise the Kundalini. Recently I wanted to add some asanas and nadi shoddhana pranayma plus bandhas to my practice. Is it okey to do half hour nado shoddhana before FP? It is alternate nostril breath with some breath retention

FP seems to work more with chakras rather than with tan tiens. I wonder how FP is compatible with yoga pranayamas. I want to stress this issue actually and I would like to hear Sifu Terry opinion on this please. In yoga they say of importance of pranayamas for cleansing energy body and thus to calm the mind. They say it is must before any meditation happens to be natural. I know FP works in it's own way but I like yoga too and may be there is way to have benefits out of combining these 2 yogic methods.

Recently I stumbled upon an article with this title in Ya Mu's blog. The article says that and and So doing the taichi form (or any other IMA form ) one creates karma? What does it mean to "practice neigong alongside the tai chi and integrate these energetics inside the movements"? As far as I know there is neigong in any internal MA and an IMA form is neigong for itself. How does it create karma? I think that only certain intention creates karma if you want to harm somebody but IMA forms can be done as a form of qigong (neigong).

And I forgot to mention there is taichi qigong method of cultivation in taichi quan. I have book and video on it. It is transmitted by Stuart Alve Olson. Also he teaches seated baduanjin which is alchemical method. Taichi Qigong is short method of qigong with 21 movement. Similar to eight brocades a little but different. Movements are done in coordination with breath. It should be done along with taichi form. So taichi chuan is probably complete path if done correctly in traditional way.

This HS is stressful for knees. Protector, which HS you would recommend? I do HS as part of my qigong method. But people want to know about cardio exercises in this thread. But thank you for reminding us of HS importance. And thank you once again

I understand what you are saying. It what Ya Mu said that taichi is good calisthenics and opens and regulate channels. But as you mentioned FP I personally would do FP shorts and long forms. I already began doing short FP form. Better to concentrate on something one. And I do taichi form sometime. Sifu Terry says it is good to combine FP with Taichi as they are very compatible.

It is prepartory what Wang Liping teach, what he teach puplic doesnt lead to immortality it is to lay a foundation Friend, are you serious? You see... People buy it because they have nothing to compare with. And some people use ignorance of other people. All what you are saying about "quieting heart" and "think what you can give to teacher and not to receive" and "next life"... Methods of immortality teach how to get enlightenment in one life span. These are methods of "ming" and "xing" cultivation. Not all methods are the same. Qigong cultivates only xing. Quieting the heart by cutting thoughts is qigong method. So you say to pay 3000 $ for one seminar to learn qigong method which you can get from a book. You can do it, I do not mind. But this is not for me. I have paid already thousands $$$ for such methods. I know there are some sects who teach xing cultivation first. Does WL teach ming methods? But honestly I don't care. I won't pay this price anyway. I would attend one of the Wu Liu Pai seminars just for 40 $ and they teach ming methods straightaway. If you wish to pay 3000 $ for watching how somebody does tricks with coins it is your right and your karma. Not mine

No Eugene, he is overexpensive yes but he is absolutely no fraud, he is a real deal, I expirienced Qin Ling and she gave me and Kronos a hard time on the same place. The charged coins by Wang Liping as meditation help for the teachers are allowed by me to use and I expirienced that it is very very very ,,,, very dangerous and these are only coins, so the person much be more than this. Ok, I can admit he has some skills. But to pay this price for... what? I did not understand what you mean by "charged coins". What is the evidence of high level mastery in it? Because it is dangerous? I just saying that there are many systems and arts and you can not do all of them. I can not criticize Taichi or any other IMA. All of them are good on some side but there are so many factors that we must regard ALL these factors. Is it qigong or alchemy? Does it cultivate prenatal or postnatal qi? Many IMA use qi for fighting and it is kinda attached karma I suppose. But other systems nourish your internal qi. If one likes taichi it's okey, I do not mind. I would do wuji primordial qigong rather than diluted taichi what they teach in the most cases