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Ruthless, I would suggest you to use search in this thread for the word "repetition". As for vol.1 (you wrote "The other standing and seating in Vol 1& 2 do not have a specific count so I am not concerned about do them to much.") then I can quote Sifu Terry words above: So from here I realize recom-s for some movements amount and time for the vol.1. As for the vol.2 Sifu says that "it is standart amount of 7 repet-s" but he can clarify it here himself. I myself am confused about the amount of repetitions for both vol.2 and 1. What does mean 18 rep-s for BTB - 18 before and after breath sequence or 9+9? And here I myself do 6- 8 breathes for raising and lowering but I breathe deeply but without any tension , and my normal amount of breathes is 7 per minute. I do slower then Sifu does on DVD but untill I feel uncomfortable with legs tension. It is about 50 seconds for the MGM raising and lowering and about 60 for the second r. and l. as it is broader arms extention. Should be both r. and l. done with the same amount of time? It's quite the challenge to do BTB slower then 2 minutes for each repetition. Even 2 minutes is 30 minutes only for 14 rep-s of BTB. But as it is "foundation" of FP I try to do at least 14 rep-s and thinking to go for 18 as soon as possible.

I realized that Terry says on DVD that we do at least 7 rep-s before breath control sequence and 3 afterwards but not sure about latter. May be Terry can clarify it here. Also I read here that it is advisable to do 18 rep-s of BTB in vol.1 BTB seems to be one of the basic meditations in the vol. 1&2. It is my supposition. Interesting, I was looking last months for some most authentic yi jin jing set (tendons and muscules change classic) and I have encountered few diff. variations of them but all of them (except one) look like more the calisthenics. Fei Fung Sunn Gung seeems to have concealed tendons and muscules change in it or it is just not stressed. But it is more taoist variation I think and much different from other chi kungs . In standing med-s we work with legs and spine more and in seated with hands and shoulders. That is why IMO we should do it as slow as possible in order to affect body tensions and release it through movement. Well, it is not Iron Body definitely but strenghtens tendons I suppose and release chi from tensions. BTB is real challenge I must say (if you do over 7 rep-s in one go slowly ). And I wonder if Taichi form can be done at the same slow pace for any benefits?

Hello and thank you very much for your broad answer to my question. I already read above that it is advisable to do both stand and seated at the same session but at the same time I recall the advice to elaborate both standing and seated for the best result. And that is what I did in the beginning. Also I recall the advice to do all stand. or seated in one session with as much repetitions as possible. To do both vol.1 and 2 with many repetitions is quite the challenge even if I have time. I am coming from the point of doing one of each vol. 1 and 2 for 1 hour and add 30 min for the couple meds form another vol. So it is about 3 hours every day. I feel some kind of my mind resistance doing long sessions over 90 minutes. So it is good to do standing in the morning to wake up but to add couple of seated to complete it and relax would be quite useful I believe. As meditations are good at any time of the day. More over that I just feel hunger in the morning and doing meds for over 2 hours only make my mind wander and all standing ones I believe not so good before sleep. Last night I did few repetitions of Bending Bows very in slow and relaxed way and I sweated even more then when I am doing weightlifting and I could not fall asleep and managed my sleep only late at night.

Thanks for nice report. It is very handy for the beginners in FP. I tought standing meditations are standing for the reason but now I consider to do some of them as seated. I want to do standing in the mornings and seated (vol.2) in the evenings. I was thinking to do some of standing ones prior to seated and I think now to do one standing + MHP and finish with MGM seated. They really good to do prior to sleep. Very calming down. And vice versa if I do only standed ones in the mornings then which one of the seated is recommended to complete the set?

All these seem to mean descending stream of energy. That is typical for Bon and tantric Buddhism but not typical for Taoism. I was considering taoist arts as more profound but it could be that tantric approach is not less powerful and not so complicated as taoist methods. But as for me I don't like visualizations there and I am not sure how to visualize right. I as trying to see what I supposed to vis. and it was confusing me all the time. But it is nothing to vis. with sounds. That's still powerful. But often they say to vis. syllables in chakras. It can cause the waste of vital energy imo

Yeah, six. Om - ma- ni - pe-me-hum. What shoul be at the end - Unnn or Ummm? And why there is up and down pivot at the center?

Nice report. Could you explain broader how sounds resound between heart and sloar plexus? How is it up and down exactly?

I would say internal cultivates pre-heaven qi External post-heaven

I have learned 4 exercises from this set. I like it. But if you do all of them + meditation then it is 1 hour + indeed. And I started to think that I could spend this time for the morning 1 hour neikung session. It is may be important to do ONE technic all the time to master it to the high level. But I come accross with the problem that I feel myself sluggish just after I wake up early in the morning. And anyway we should do some kind of callisthenics anyway to have combined approach from both internal and extrernal. Good point actually. There is also some yi jin jing Sifu Yan Lei teachs. Also might be very good stuff for the health promation. Can be done during a day for some 20 minutes.

I have his book and video. Wanted to practice it but now I think it is kinda more external training which takes much time to do it. IMO better to spend your time for neikung/alchemy practice.

What is the difference with this one?

Thanks. Sounds pretty good

I read a lot about authentic alchemical taoist systems, and they dont seem to be based on using consciousness such as visualisations or breath or chakras breaths or using toughts. It may depend on sect what they cultivate first xing or ming. This system seems to have spontaneous "mechanic" what is the symptom of alchemical method IMO

Well, I never heard about Chris Matsuo before and about Wu family. I don't really understand what is KYMQ. Is it chikung or alchemy? In any system there should be some philosophy or teaching and there should be masters known who completed themself on this path. But I know nothing about this system except of couple guys here on forum. But they don' t tell much about the system. So I need to make right choice for myself. And think about S-M more at the moment but this talks of tranmission confuse me really. Sorry for posting my doubts here just wanted to share my thoughts

But as far as I know ALL alchemy practices based on transmission and it is crucial. Trunk already told me KYMQ can be really practiced without transmission. I only wanted to know smth more about system as there is no information at all about this system. I used to practice loads of systems before for few years and now I am very aware of any system which I am interested in. Never heard about such a system before and about such overlap. But it can be really good stuff and I hope so

There is nothing wrong with overlaps at all. I used to practice Bon for a while and I love the theory there but I personally don't like much visualisations there and much of praying. It could be a good approach for one but I gave up that path and choose taoist methods path. I would be happy to find something what brings both paths together. I dont consider one path is easier then another but just trying to feel if the system resounds in me or not. I just wanted to know if there are much visualisations coz I dont really like it and I heard it simillar to Kunlun and Yin Yan hands of Celestial Neikung which I have practiced. I am looking for the system which I can practice without transmission as I cant travel faraway.

Well, here was the thread where this issue was dicussed and the point was that kundalini is not the same as jing-qi-shen and there another processes evolve. I think it is better to mail to Sifu Matsuo but I only wonder this time. Looks like there some overlap between Bon and Taoism alchemy. Just tought may be here somebody who has practiced this know smth about this issue. Also wonder if this practice involve connection to Kwan Yin as it is Kwan Yin neikung.

I dont know who is this guy and why I have to listen to him. I talked about classic texts of taoist sects. I have never heard about chakras from there.

I can not recall here in taoist texts they mentioned central channel and chakras. I read in this thread that there is chakras work and it does not matter how to call it as alch. taoism is based on tantiens but they are not chakras at all. So usage central channel and chakras work in taoism prompts me to think that it is not pure taoist method and could be an overlap with buddhist or bon tradition.

Hmmm, just wonder. KYMQ seems to be taoist method from Sifu Matsuo Wudang teacher but it is working with chakras. Are there chakras work in alchemical taoism?

Thanks. But I just have read what Ya Mu wrote in other thread That is why I was asking questions here. S-M seems to be the system which must be taught in person for full result but I will practice it anyway an hope it is high level qigong indeed even without personal "transmission". I hope online workshop will be opened for everyone and will help to open up this qigong. Looking forward

I know and I was doing classes for few years not taichi only. But they were not kinda attractive for me personally. I dont want to go there just on the purpose to find a girl. At the moment I am looking connection to Kwan Yin and this is what I want concentrate on at the moment. I dont want to write here anymore. Sorry

I did. She was very nice and light. Not spiritaul. We had nice time. But then she sent sms that she wants pubs and drinking and as I don't do this there is no point seeing each other. It was much pain for me to overcome this.

So you offer me not to do my practice and do searching for a nice girl? Hmmm. What does mean working on my self? To get good job, nice car, finish a course how to pick up girls and chat to them? Recently I tried that. Only one out of ten who was dating me. She was very nice but 15 years younger and we had not much in common. I can't afford myself going for drinking just because a girl want this. This is NOT what I want. I dont need drinking and smoking girl. You want to say this is problem with me. I am looking quite attractive I would say but I cant talk a lot to people who have no much in common with my interests. I dont like talking much about waht people talking normally and I just dont like such companies. I am just not looking for anybody at the moment. It is better to work with your desires. Shall I just come up to a girl on street and talk to her? I did but it is no working... May be because I am foreigner. But for me easier not to bother about this. May be It would not bad to have lover but it is not easy anyway. You going to spend your time and energy on this. I dont see enough reason for this. I would like to date somebody with same interests otherwise nothing to talk and you going to split up anyway.

I did not say NO spiritual women. You missed something. I recall many spirit. men and only few women. Of course there were spiritual woman and there are many looking for something but I just did not encounter one yet who would be attractive for me. And I dont pick up girls on streets anymore. Only this is my point