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OK. Now it is more the less clear that level 1 is complete HEALING system. And it empowers health and self feeling and builds the foundation of qi for the more advanced levels of BFP kung fu. But it was clear for me before and only I wanted to clarify what is the level 1 and how it is complete for those people who can not come for seminars which are hold in States. I see that level1 is good system anyway even without more advanced BFP stuff and can be practiced for years for the healing and health management and for good qi cultivation. But then one will need to practice something else because level 1 is not complete spiritual system. OK, it is no bad. As far as I understand after good foundation of practicing level 1 it can be practiced then for the less time and it can take may be some 30 minutes a day in addition to any other spiritual (martial) practice. For this purpose of Neidan I am seeking something else for future. I investigate other systems. At the moment I read about Kunlun system and even ordered the book. Then I will see how it is going and if I need anything else in addition

Hi, Friend. I did read as it was posted recently. And I had asked another question after that Sifu's Terry post which was not replied. Only answer that I relised was: In Chinese energy arts--and also in Tibetan and I believe Indian yogas--there are different Qigong methods that cultivate different types or what I call "flavors" of energy. There are basic and generic Qigong exercises that cultivates and elevates the level of the body's intrinsic energy, but every complete and authentic Qigong and Neigung system that I have learned or seen demonstrated at a high level indicates that there are many distinct types of internal energy that can developed by the human organism. (btw, you've just caused me to expand the intro section in my forthcoming book about the FP healing energy in contrast to other energies cultivated by Chinese arts.) FPCK cultivates a rare powerful healing energy that is one-of-a-kind. As described at various points in the thread, the FP healing energy when properly cultivated to a super-abundant reserve level--with only 2 or 3 years of diligent practice--will not only heal and empower yourself, but others in your proximity that you care about, and be visible a bright and flourescent blue aura. And that is where my query coming from. I understand more the less the common theory of jing chi shen and I do not understand what means "healing energy" and what means to "empower oneself" and what is this blue aura. I understand that Sifu Terry says that one just need only to practice (JUST DO IT). I just want to understand what is the core "energy" of the FP Chikung and what means "complete" - complete spiritual or healing? I have read this thread for days and it is still not clear for me. And why am I asking this? Because I have spent years for different kind of practices and now I am just more aware of what I am practicing. I like the FP meditations and it is giving me something but I can not estimate it else and I want to know more about GMDW's arts. I feel this are rare and beautiful arts and want to have more information. As for level 2 I saw those youtube movies - it looks great but it is not clear to me what means healing - self healing or healing others? How? And if one is not sick then what to heal? Just elaborate healing qi and blue aura? And what is the level 1 (and 2) without next levels for those who can not meet Sifu Terry in Los Angeles. I did not see answers for these questions. May be you can give a link where there is answers on these questions. I realised that Level 2 can be used for martial art purpose but I understand it can be useful if you are taught by a teacher and it is not just learning from DVD. So it sounds that level 1 is only be taught by DVD's and my main query is how level 1 complete and what does it really mean. I would stick with only one copmplete system if it is really complete. So I just do not understand if I need anything else in addition to FP chikung level 1 for the spiritual development. It is my main interest in chi kung. And I would spend time for one system because we do not have time in our busy lives for few differ. systems. And if level 1 is complete why there is no theory about chi jing shen, MCO - is it just self manifested? I just read about some another complete taoist wushu system. The importance of breath managing is stressed there and cultivation of prenatal breath and qi jing and shen. (I can not explain properly in English sorry). And there is nothing of this kind stressed in FP chikung system. I make conclusion it is just only healing chikung which is the introductory level to the neidan.

That's interesting. I still don't understand what I am practicing not regarding I have read almost all 100 pages here. As far as I understood this chikung is introductory practice to all other internal arts within Doo Wai family, and it is not based on the common theory for taoist alchemy of jing, chi and shen. I just trust that it is wonderful healing chikung and it harmonises energy (chi) and mind and can help any other taoist practice of internal alchemy. But I am still confused if we need something else on top of it for the complete spiritual development. There are many other arts in Doo Wai family which Sifu Terry and Garry kindly describe here on the forum. I asked them both few times about it but never got reply. I understand you both are very busy men and not always can reply for all queries. Sifu Terry kindly supports this thread for couple of years and he does really good explanation on FPHCMC and other Doo Wai family arts but I did not understand what is FPHCMC exactly and how it is complete if not to practice other GMDW arts and not having chance to meet Sifu Terry in person. I was very interested in GMDW arts and I have read Sifu Garry's threads where he promotes other GMDW arts and contacted him through email amd PM but have not got any reply. I just contimue my FPHCMC practice but recently wanted to shift for some another wushu art because there is very advanced neikung system within taoist neidan sect. But based on orthodox taoist theory of cultivation jing chi and shen (prenatal and postnatal), MCO and spiritual transformation. May be it is the same system within GMDW system but I can not meet anybody from this lineage and I wonder if one needs to practice some another internal art on top of FPHCMC or it is very complete for itself. Sifu Terry wrote that GMDW taught some another kung fu system along with FPHCMC at the beginning and more advanced martial neikung afterwards. OK, I know that FPHCMC is sort of level 1 and there are levels 2,3 and 4. Why are there so many levels? What is the level 2?

MHP seating in a sauna? Hope you don't have the idea of doing BTB or WAC while standing in queue in a supermarket.

Kunlun & Maoshan is descending qi. KYMQ is ascending. Bad combination if you are doing both

Hmm, on the DVD Sifu Terry says to do BTB and AFTER breath sequence and AFTER few reps of BTB. And that's how I am doing. I do only one breath for each med. I do 9 reps of BTB + breath + 9 reps of BTB. Now I see. All people different. No point to compare. Thanks again for sharing

Hi, Suburi. Thanks for sharing you experience. May I ask you few questions? How many repetitions of breath sequence you do? How many BTB repetitions? 18 before breath and 18 after or 9+9? I have been doing FP chi kung for a month now constantly (I missed only one day of practice) for 2-3 hours every day. And I have no any special results like you describe here only doing it for couple of weeks. I want to understand what I am doing wrong. I am in very good physical form with good stamina and many people here got good results being overweighted and with bad stamina. Looks like it is working better for the overweighted people. Should I eat more and get few more kilos? But may be what I was doing wrong I splitted vol. 1 and 2 and did them separately and only last few days I am doing them both together. It takes me about 60 mins for the vol.1 and some 40 for the 3 initial meds + 1 or 2 MSW from vol.2. May be I have to do all 6 meds from vol.2 together.

Also I want to ask Sifu Terry when is the Vol. 6 will be available again. As far as I know there are meditations for martial arts application. How is it important for the FPC energy cultivation if I am practicing another MA nei kung system? Is vol. 6 sort of must have addition to the FPC system and must not be practiced for the FP energy cultivation? I want to buy those volumes which I don't have yet and I wonder how long will I have to wait and if one must have vol. 6 or not. And I believe that one who can not see you in person can get FP level 2 (Sifu Terry released level 1 only on his DVDs) meditations represented by GM Doo Wai. Anyway I want to continue practicing FP system even if I am not able to meet Sifu Terry. I think it will be good anyway for the self-healing and longevity and energy cultivation. I want to practice some another chi kung in addition to FP system. I think of yigong by Jenny Lamb which is complete she says. And internal wushu which is complete system too. This should be pretty enough for the personal spiritual development. I would be happy to practice BFP or BMP kung fu but I do not believe much that it is good idea practicing it without teacher who you can see often. I hope Sifu Terry is going to come to the UK this year again. It would be very good to meet him and to practice FP in a group.

Sifu Terry, thanks for the broad answer. But could you elaborate it once again please if FPCCM on Vol. 1-7 is complete system without these advanced meditations you just have mentioned? By the way there is one online shop where Levels 2 and 3 of FPCCM can be purchased and represented by GM Doo Wai. So I really enjoy practicing FPC but I have less motivation to practice FPC knowing that I will not be able to receive advanced FPCCM levels as it is very huge challenge personally for me even to get US visa. So I will think if I should continue practicing FPCCM or comitte to another chi kung system where full transmission will be possible.

Hi, Shagrat. These are good questions you are asking. I was thinking the same. You see, there are few systems within Doo Wai family. And I wonder myself because Sifu Terry wrote that FPC is complete but at the same time it is only pure medical chi kung and this is only introductory level that was released on DVD's. Also there is a martial system inside Doo Wai family. It is Bak Fu Pai and Bak Mei Kung fu. There are another healing chi kung systems. And martial chi kung sytems. Sifu Garry Hearfield from Australia and Sifu Christer Wretfors from Sweden teach these more advanced martial chi kungs. And there is another chi kung with healing aspects which consist of 72 levels. So to many systems for practicing. I tried to ask Sifu Garry about these systems and how to practice them correctly and if it is possible to learn COMPLETE Doo Wai family system by DVD's only and I have not recieved reply ( for 2 weeks now). May be because I am not in their VIP list. Sify Garry wrote on his website http://www.warriorbodybuddhamind.com/wbbm/ that if you wre not in VIP list your email will not be even replied. So I at the moment I stick with FP chi kung for self healing benefits and think to practice something else for spiritual purpose. I wanted to ask these questions here but I had read all thread prior to that and read that FPC is complete but it is still not clear enough for me and I would like to know as well what Sifu Terry will say here again. I realized that one would have to meet somebody from Doo Wai system in person for the full transmission

I do not understand really what you want. I asked the same question myself. We always have choice and monkey's mind can tell you many nice stories. Qigongs are not just exercices for supernatural power. They are spiritual practices too. But of course not all of them. It depends on the teacher and the system and personal karma. No one can know your karma even you yourself. TB is very attractive for me personally. But I am thinking it is very much about your karma to find proper teacher in TB. And your (and mine too) readiness. At the moment I find it easier to practice chikungs and I am just checking it. Give the time to one system. Or work well with one and then add something else compatible with it. Otherwise monkey mind always knows better ways

The goal of YY is to unite Yin and Yan but not flexibility. But yes for myself I got result that now I can seat in half lotus for FP. And I do full lotus easily. But still cant fly as it is promised in the YY book. Do you know any insructor of YY who can fly really? Don't want to criticise it. Some high level tummo masters could fly they say. But it is not always what they promise in books. It may be good if you really committed to Ningma and Namkai Norbu. Otherwise it is kundalini practice which was practiced in mountains in Tibet by very commetted to TB yogis. And it is not like now people buying books wanting to fly

She has answered in her Q&A on her website that Yi Gong is actually complete practice. But may it means that you have to meet her in person and to receive more advanced practice. This is not clear at all and not only regarding Yi Gong. The same for many other chu kung sytems. They do not answer clear enough. Jenny Lamb recommends to stick with system as well as many others but they have to add it means that you coming for their seminars. I myself can not visit them as they are in USA.

I don want to say anything bad about any system but I have some thoughts and experience. I used to practice Yantra Yoga for 6 months without any results. Only result I had was I became more flexible phisically. And yes, I did not have transmission either. But I was on seminar. Do you really want to do all those quite complicated asanas? As far as I know only 1-2 persons are able to do ALL asanas from Yantra in the WHOLE WORLD. And one of them is former acrobat. And it is not typical for Tibet yoga. There are many questions regarding YY and I heard many of criticism on some instructors of YY. It might be a good practice but I should ask again if one knows anybody who got tangible results with YY? At the same time many authentic chi kung systems are much easier to learn and you can read many positive reports on it here on the forum.

I can not say exactly as I don't practice tummo. But I know one guy well who practices tummo and he said that it was not working for him untill he could experience "external qi" in channels.But he mentioned MCO. That MCO is very desirable for tummo and one should have ability to sense external qi and to gather it in lower tan tien for tummo. I am not sure about buddhist practices and cant give you any recommendations. But I am sure it is better to stick with one system or may be add something else if it is compatible. I myself am not sure but I think that FP chi kung is purely medical and produces very subtle energy which is good for any other practice and Sifu Terry said that it GM Doo's practices (which is FP I believe) boosted up his other internal arts he had practiced before. I myslef only know he does not recommend to learn other system when you LEARN FP chi kung but it is good to practice something else. I am not sure myslef because as far as I know according to Sifu Tery FP is complete system but the practice released on DVDs is level one only and it is incomplete without further tranmission. But at the same time Sifu Terry wrote that practice from DVD number 4 is very high level and can give very tangible result but you should ask him for clarification. I want to add something to my FP chi kung too. But not all three systems together. Even if you have time it is different energies from diff. systems and you should respect system you are practicing and trust it. You see Yantra Yoga requires good commitment to the Ningma and you should have Dzogchen transmission for it and it is very difficult practice as there are quite advanced asanas. And we should only trust Namkai Norbu it is authentic. Do you know anyone who got tangible results with Yantra Yoga? I dont.

Hi! You may be could not beleive me but I was thinking about absolutely the same combination of practices. My opinion it is to much for mixing together. I wont tell you what I have chosen but I will give you few hints. You really need transmission for Yantra Yoga. It is not said in texts but it is practice of high level. You should have clear experience of "external qi" to practice yoga of tummo. So if you have elaborated good energy with FP already than it might work well for you. IMO. Sifu Terry said that FP chi kung is very compatible with many kinds of tibetan yoga as it was received by Feng Do Duk from buddhist deity and master Feng Do Duk got some elements of his system from tibetan and indian yogis. And FP is purely medical chi kung which is very compatible with many other systems. Yi gong of Jenny Lamb is from taoist Maoshan sytem. But she is buddist. As far as I know she does not recommend to mix practices and does recommend to stick with one system. But in general yi gong compatible with many other systems but you should be careful as yi gong is downward moving qi (Maoshan) and Yantra Yoga is upward moving kundalini. And you have to practice prelim. practices according to Namkai Norbu Rinpoche. More over that you need much time for different practices and every of these systems is complete for itself. As for PF chi kung as far as I know there is no much stress on chanels and kundalini but you have to ask Sifu Terry for clarification.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw_rjnWB0Dw

Here is presentation of kouk sun do practice And here is main part of the first stage of KSD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukjzp6sQ9jQ And here is explanation of KSD breath by master Kim Ki Yong

Sorry but I dont understand such the "music".

Long Mantra Of Avalokitesvara http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WCcxKghi7Y

Boris Grebenshikov and Gabrielle - Vajrakilaya Refuge

It takes me 90 minutes only for standing. Hmm. May be I am doing something wrong? I try to stand about 10 mins in posture. And to do moveme nts slowly. Turtle moves slowly and lives longer - I try to count 1 om 2 om 3 om but it is still challenge. At the momemt I manage just counting 1 2 3... it takes me about 6-8 seconds for the full breath. 10 seconds is still challenge in horse stance

They seem to teach dao yin and seated meditation. This is chi kung and not alchemy indeed. Of course quiet meditation can be powerful and there are few taoist texts regard meditation as alchemy method but many other sect criticize such methods. It is regarded as alchemy only in the west and in chi kung schools. And in Buddhism and Zen. That is why I mentioned that taoist alchemical sectarian methods are quite distinctive from other oriental methods

Hi, jiju. What do you practice exactly and what benefits you get out of this system?