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Yes they do. But this method is mostly closed for westerners. Even in China it is rare case these days

That does not mean results will be the same.

in that case it has no any relation to the "daoist discussion".

Are there any daoist lineage's methods among them?

Let me guess, you do practice from the books and videos?

It is not wrong but useless. If you want to eat banana you pick it up and eat. You dont have to call your friend in India and ask him how people eating bananas there. Of course this is interesting, but useless. May be you can ask him what sort of bananas is the best one and this would be another story. Or may be how to cook bananas. If your teacher says you to do some method you dont have to call Indian guru and ask him how he would do this method. I assure you Indian guru has no clue how to do it. Because he is attached to his system and his system of believes and his systematic approach to the enlightenment process. More over that, Indian system lost this understanding hundreds years ago

There is no need to mix these systems and look for equivalents. Chose one and follow it

I agree. First of all we need to make research when the term of Kundalini appeared and who brought it to the public. These days very often people trying to do smth not even having understanding what they do and why.

Politics affects the life of each of us in one way or another. Even if you live in Europe, or somewhere else, the upcoming events will be related to big changes in society there as well. It still matters who and how manages the processes in this world.

It was irony on my part. I agree that both candidates will have problems, as well as the US in general. First of all, economic ones and a serious reform of the entire US structure is required, which will be associated with conflicts. The Dragon is the guardian of the East. The center of global governance will gradually shift to the East. And this year should be a turning point in this shift. For Taomeow only:

Are you not the One whom they refer to as "the Global Predictor"? Will Trump win the elections? I want to know it now

Not only Dr E. translates it as Five Elements. I have seen other researchers translating it as "5 agents". So may be you translate it wrong... I have other researches translations on early Quanzhen methods and Wang Chongyang writings and they only confirm what I said. Nothing changes in general. I dont want to argue with you. Read my reference to DZ again. There everything is clearly stated, and your emotions are hindering you from understanding it

How you think what is the root of the Virtue as such and whether it is possible to gain Virtue without specific daoist method? The Virtue has 2 parts - internal and external or in orher words preheaven and postheaven manifestations. In order to obtain preheaven Virtue one needs to cultivate it what implies a specific cultivation method. I even provided a reference to DZ in re: on this issue. Please (if you wish) let me know if I am clear enough for you to understand what i just said in this post. Thank you;)

Incorrect. Even in re: DDJ there was specific method which is outlined inbetween words actually. There is no such thing as "one yogic, daoist, muslim...method ". More over it such posts mess up the daoist discussion branch of this forum.

Alright, but as we are in daoist discussion thread I reflect over daoist methods of cultivation. As in a previous discussion I stressed the importance of no mixing approaches of different schools and methods. I mean in general it is incorrect to consider yogic and daoist methods as one common method of cultivation. They differ and should be mixed by no means. The Daoist method of cultivation is very narrow in terms of its precision, clarity, and sequence of stages. Any deviation from the rules leads to very undesirable consequences because the balance of yin and yang is a very delicate matter, as is the energy of the body as a whole

I only respond to what you post here in this thread and share my thoughts with you and others. Yes, I agree with you that stillness is the key and I share my understanding about the root of where the stillness is born from. If you want to grow beautiful tree with strong stem first thing you need to learn how to plant it and how to cultivate it right. Also re: balance what is your understanding of it and where does it come from? Can you share your toughts on it? As for my personal experience I would not share it because it is too personal thing. You can consider me as a researcher of daoist cultivation methods.

Who is the doctor E.? Do you know from whom Wang Chongyan received transmission? This is not the TCM approach and methods, and you seem to be confused. No chance to comprehend what it is about without teacher. Period.

He he, and what about five elements method? There are questions and answers. How sitting and calmness work with it? What about Lesser Vehicle method? I would like you to explain it please

Alright, can you understand next words? I hope you are able to see black and white here?

I read it too and I meant to read it thoroughly. And what the northern schools you refer to? I know some initial methods from 2 northen schools (lineages) at least and how many northern methods and from what schools you know and practise? Texts cant help you much if no one explains it to you. Period

Well, this seems to be the precondition of the cultivation method for it can't be considered as method cultivation. Read that text you provided link for - there is said that these preconditions precede the real cultivation method. I will continue citing the article that I mentioned above Wang Zhe thus endorses the simple cultivation of purity and stillness as the only true way toward recovering the Real Nature and gaining eternal life. This is the Greater Vehicle. However, this inner serenity needs to be built upon a foundation of sound physical health. This foundation is built through the more complicated physical practices of the Lesser Vehicle. Wang Zhe sometimes seems harshly critical of the various physical practices, referring to them as ‘small methods of subsidiary schools’ (pangmen xiaofa). The seeming inconsistency occurs because the various discourses of Wang Zhe address different audiences and situations. Some of his followers perhaps tended to content themselves with pursuing the petty details of physical exercises, failing to attain true inner purity and stillness in the process. Others probably suffered health problems that hampered their spiritual progress. So I agree that apparent contradictions are based on whom the teacher specifically gave instructions to, as he had several students. But overall, referring to the quote above, personally for me it is clear that the Ming cultivation method should either precede the cultivation of the Xing or go along with it, but it is definitely not the method of quiet sitting as some modern schools understand it.

Not directly from his writing but nevertheless I have one at least from an article of a сontemporary researcher

No. There are old Northern school and more modern Northern path of meditations. The latter one is just like echo of old Northen school. Wang Chongyan wrote that cultivation begins with Ming cultivation but his followers lost this method. I dont know how that happend.

Again, you are describing the Northern path of meditations. It's worth keeping in mind that stillness and calmness are Yin. Cultivating only Yin can easily create an imbalance in energy. This way of cultivation can lead to excessive consumption of Yang Qi. It's a very common mistake made by many practitioners

To the very heaven I'll embark on Where do the clouds sail beneath me. Like an arrow through the body, through the heart I flew My soul, like a white bird, up after you (To the very heaven...)