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It is based on daoist principles from what I can see. GMDW wrote in his article: All modern people have excessive "heart-mind" fire which is "false fire". MGM meditation helps to put out this fire and make it more Yin in nature. BTB is based on fire down water up principle. Also 50 30 10 helps to bring fire down. Today did these meds in forest and feel much more serene and more joy. And yes, physical moon helps to collect more Yin energy what helps to remove excessive fire.
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Xing = yuan shen = original spirit = innate nature https://tibetan.tripod.com/ch-phoen.htm That what I mean by Xing strengthening - activation of our inner mind
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Hello, Sifu Terry. I refer to 5 60 80 40 30. I meant that seated and standing MHPearl can be done one after the other [may be] referring to how sifu Garry represents SYG versions of these meditations which are very similar to MHPearl meditations but have their own breath %. So can you recommend doing seated and standing MHPearl meditations one after the other? Also I did not mean that I going to do MGM in horse stance but according to sifu Garry he does SYG variation of MHPearl meditation in horse stance [as variation of how it can be done in level 1 of Sunn Yee Gong system]. I dont think that SYG level1 has more martial intent than FP level 1 meditations. But may be I am wrong about it of course. Yes, I agree it causes some tensions in the body but in my opinion this does not mean that horse stance has only martial intent. But it can help to open leg channels and to get better connection to Earth if to do it in wider stance than shoulder width stance. But I understand now you dont recommend to do MHPearl meditation this way. Thank you for reply
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I am not sure we need Moon for MGM progress. My opinion is that moon has more symbolic meaning here. We have yin (nature) and yang (life) and symbolically this is moon and sun. MGM seems to be xing strengthening mediation but nature of xing is light. Ordinary person' Xing has more yin quality and symbolically can be associated more with moon, so it depends how much MIng (life) one has.
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I did 5 60.... in forest under blue sky. After I have it done I rubbed palms and put them on closed eyes and there was bluish light inside my head. Sunlight seems to magnify FP energy for I did not have this effect when did 5 60... in room. Interesting if MHPearl can be done in horse stance. Garry says the same meditation in SYG can be done in horse stance. Also I read on the forum he did some sort of horse for one hour but not sure which one. Also in SYG they do this one seated version before standing version of it so interesting to experiment how it would work if to do Pearl one after the other one.
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Some people say he represents Longmen. But Longmen is very broad, starting from quiet sitting methods that one can find in books. Thus, even if you just practice the quiet sitting method, you are a Longmen man. I just had a look at his book and read his recommendation to concentrate on the area just above the anus to open up the dantian. Yes, it can be very deep… anus neigong, maybe.
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Does anyone know why there are 6 seated in level1 but Garry says only 4 meds in each level? I have level1 seated, got it years ago and now tried few seated, it is very powerful I would say, nice feelings afterwards
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Taoist Elixir Method (Tao Tan Pai) Kung Fu and Neigong discussion
Antares replied to daobro's topic in General Discussion
Just wonder if anyone has obtained elixir practicing this system. Can someone share their experience and the results of practicing this system? -
Really? Are you sure 100 % ? What about this video: Generated by AI? Can you make the same fake video?
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No, some people can do it like that:
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this would be more subtle form of qi and i dont think it is even physical. it empowers yuan shen, makes it more yang. yang is light i would say
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This is a rather controversial statement. Yuan shen and taiji/wuji are far from being the same. This is a typical example of how mixing concepts not only doesn't help, but also misleads. Why compare these concepts at all? From this perspective, yuan qi is always in abundance and is stored somewhere at the base of the spine? And there is no universal force of yuan qi. Yuan qi is a product that must be generated within the body, and it cannot be said that it is stored at the base... The Daoist concept is simply different. Moreover, to obtain yuan qi, you need to involve yuan shen, which is Shiva, so Shiva must be moving somewhere. In general, I am against mixing concepts
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We need to find a person with awakened kundalini and ask them how they obtain yuan qi, where it is stored, how it is transformed... there is still much unclear in this concept. The idea that ida and pingala are yin and yang is simply incorrect
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Also it could be true yang Qi rising in central channel. It depends what they do. But this approach is very questionable.
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It could be prenatal jing (yin and yang) that is stored in the kidneys, with which some yoga practitioners work, calling it kundalini. However, kundalini can also refer to something like spiritual power, so it depends. To work with the latter, you need an authentic teacher; otherwise, it can't be activated. What I mean is that some ignorant people activate the yang of jing by bringing it up the spine, calling it kundalini. Real kundalini activation is quite a rare occurrence, even in India. And I don't think that even authentic kundalini activation produces the same results as Daoist neidan.
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there are 2 poles of the LDT - yin and yang. how i get it yoga people activate yang pole and send yang qi into central channel. but better to unite yin and yang and utilize it other way
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There is an option for how to direct the yuan qi and how to use it. Some schools may utilize the central channel, but from a Daoist perspective, that considered as the wrong path. Old Indian schools and methods were quite similar to the daoist perspective but they were changed afterwards
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You could have simply provided quotes about kundalini from this text without referring to AI. But for some reason, you decided to turn to AI. This means that you are not interested in primary sources and you trust questionable sources. But can there be truth in questionable sources? Did you personally see the original texts and you proved their authenticity? I gave an example of how easy it is to manipulate the dates of supposedly authentic texts. There is no need for doubt here, just investigate. Or blindly believe in concepts imposed by others. It's up to you — the red or the blue pill - what is your choice?
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I wouldn't trust AI (Agnostic Idiot). Once, out of curiosity, I tried to find some answers in daoist texts. This idiot not only made up the text himself, but then also created another text after I pointed out that there was no such text. It apologized, but then made up a text again. Moreover, I generally do not believe in official dating in history. 99% is forgery. Especially when it comes to British India. As for this excerpt, I found that it actually pertains to the Yoga Pradipika, and as I said, it has a later dating, but again, it shouldn't be trusted. The text could have been written later. For example, I found a claim that the text Goraksasataka was copied in the 17th-18th centuries (the British period) from original texts that are supposedly dated to the 11th-12th centuries. Where are the originals themselves, who has seen and studied them? What is this Medieval Transformation of Yoga” period?
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I did some research and looked into 12th-century yoga texts, and there was nothing about kundalini rising up the central channel. There was a notion that it is some sort of chakra in the palate and nothing else. Therefore, the idea of rising power seems to be a modern concept that was invented recently (perhaps when the British invaded India)