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Heaven and Earth, Man in-between. Thanks for sharing.

http://www.renenavarro.org/writings# In particular the text "Looking for Yang Cheng-Fu"

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http://www.yangfamilytaichi.com/yang/tree/ I believe most of the modern yang tai chi came through Yang Cheng Fu.

I wasn't replying to your post. It was my way to say this discussion will have no end nor agreement. I wrote it very briefly before I went to work so sorry for my bad English. I'm not telling that you are right or wrong, you seem to be intelligent and respectful. We have some radical differences in the foundation of our respective thinking process that are matter of conviction more than logic. Beside we don't agree on the effects of capitalism. Maybe you are just more optimistic about human nature than me, or I care more about global humanity dignity and equity. I don't have the time or the will and not even the ability to expose my complete opinion in English and more than everything else I think it doesn't really matter. Thanks for sharing

Thus it has been shocking enough to be forbidden. Aside that I would find most of your answer in a basic economy manual -> see the rules of the leaders that you please very well to recite. I understand it I don't buy it. When talking about effects on people you don't seem very concerned. You have probably no idea of speculation on the prices of cereal implies in Senegal but it means something there. And when it goes about why that system stays in place it became obvious it's because it nourishes it's own stupidity but you make no link. I'm certainly not convinced by your kind of ideas. Have a good day.

A person's attitude evolves after a change in his/her experience. Very little is related to reason/reflexion. Note that hearing a discourse is an experience but what will change you mind is more about how many time you'll hear the same thing. Chomsky explain that very well.

@ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment If you want more.

What did they expect to find? What Milgram and other thought they would discover versus what they truly discovered Milgram was certain that very few participants would actually carry out the orders of the experiment (to 450-volts). “So he was surprised when 26 of the 40 (65 percent) individuals who served as teachers in the initial experiment administered the full 450-volts to the presumably helpless learner” (Forsyth, 2010, p. 244). Only a few predicted that anyone would give a shock greater than 180-volts. A panel of psychiatrists, college students, and middle-class adults were asked by Milgram to make predictions about the results of the experiment. “Most people, including both experts and laypersons alike, were surprised by the level of obedience Milgram discovered in his research” (Forsyth, 2010, p. 247).

Seems to be quiet well for descendant of plutocracy leaders.

What is the aim of iTunes ? And don't see the relevance of your question.

Nice. Seriously You have to understand, I grew up in a city with 60% social housing and I actually live in that kind of neighborhood so I know the effects of these minimal wages or non-employment. And I know the effects of a (well done) social city politic or no... So please leave me out with reality. What you seem to ignore is that Mankind is a specie of followers (see Milgram) that allow unfairness, injustice, violence and more if authorities allow it. The great part is that allows us to work together. The bad one, we tolerate intolerable (subjective ) But some are less than others...

Have you ever thought that how things work are put on by leaders for themselves ?

I like the lightness you found in despair.

I know nobody will agree because it is not your culture... but If I agree with you in a context of worldwide free market, if a country manage to tax importation (which would reduce pollution and dope economy) any good will be paid the fair price. How can it be authorized an enterprise to have more sellers than productive workers ? That company sells sells. Not services, neither goods, it sell sells -to old people that don't need them generally- The same apply for economy. Economy has not to run for itself it isn't the end of the chain. There are ways to manage it otherwise and it has to be because the way you (most anglo-saxons for what I can see) think about it implies people as slave of the system. It is now but it has not to be. Rules, laws, regulations are the barrier to human savagery it will not make people weaker. From a philosophic perspective the idea that underlie our actual economy is the natural selection. Mankind lives in society and has selected solidarity a very long time ago as its main vector but we forgot it when we started running. BTW : sorry for my bad english is that all understandable ? I always wonder...

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When I started that thread I had in mind something much more grounded to nowadays political realities. We more or less all share the same ideal of simple life embracing nature we haven't been prepared for. From my point view, if you can choose your life you can't force such a return to a whole specie. Too far from Wu-wei. Respectfully of anyone.

That's amazing man

Amen !

Brian, may I call you my friend ? I can disagree, for reasons I can explain but I'm no enemy. We are much more alike than different. * Entracte * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEacXeAbHpQ

All your thinking process is based on the conviction that among us aliens are acting to sink down mankind, is that correct ? I'm trying to stay open but that is becoming difficult to say the less.

Who said that ? you

I had a lots of laughs reading that. I wasn't sure you were serious or humorous. I think you were honest. Once again, I like your answer but I can't thank for it... !