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I agree on the over investment of one set of values - and I would say that's generally our default perspective; those things that we were conditioned with. I think there's a different reason that we're reluctant to give up our conditioning, where we feel safe. I think it is because We Really Are The Intelligence that knows everything. At the basis of who we are, we Know. It is our conditioning that prevents us from clarity; the contortions have been inserted into us by lots of well meaning folks. The reboot is miraculous. The whole field shifts.

The concept of definite truth, I don't think, is the same as the fact that we want to survive or be happy. The defined philosophy you're speaking of isn't the same as the Truth as is found in every human being, if one takes the trouble. The perspective you're describing is predominately "left brained" (not a perfect descriptor, I know), and much of what is sought on these threads is not accessed through externally obtained data. They are obtained in a journey into self. There are underlying spiritual principles that appear to meet in a hub, once the trappings of any 'religion' are transcended. It is these principles, very well described in the Tao te Ching, that are the focus of many here. I think the knowledge spoken of in your question pertains to this type, more specifically.

The funny thing is that when you take a step back and realize (prior to engaging in argument) that the other person's conditioning and genetic make-up render it impossible for him to see things as you do, it becomes less of an argument and more of an honest inquiry. Does any argument convince anyone of anything?

And that would be the point

Another way is to assume you have every character defect there is, and then go in search of it within your personal history, finding the source of the tendency. Once we can 'see' it, it means we are separating from it. Prior to knowing it was there, we were it. To do this is to see ourselves as we truly are, not as we think we are in an idealized mind.

believe it or not

It just seemed like the nice priest was asking you to play.

You didn't play dominos with him?

you've already been reported

To 'Realize' the truth brings it within even further. Like a big gulp of the realization of a truth - about ourselves. The true wisdom will be 'self realized'.

When I mention imprint, I'm referring to the traumatic things that happen especially in early life that stick, and causes further reactions throughout life to be influenced by the original trauma. That was a good article. Not sure what the bottom line was, though. His mention of willing suspension of disbelief, for some reason, caused me to remember a thing that don Juan Mateus (nagual) had Carlos Castaneda do at the very beginning of the apprenticeship. To sit and stare at something, but with your eyes slightly crossed - he called it "fuzzied". It's easiest to look at an area where there is maybe a vertical line, like the edge of a sliding glass door, that separate one phenomena from another. In my case -( I just did this exercise) - I was sitting in a chair and looking at a sliding glass door, through which I see my fence and some bouganvilla. Up in front of the sliding glass door, on the other side, is a beautiful screen with pretty jewels in it. So I crossed my eyes where I could easily see both parts of the door - the greenery, or the screen. You have to look almost exactly between the objects and there will appear a 'third' panel, which will alternately become either greenery or pretty screen. It's like the middle screen of the cross-eyed panorama. What happens is that first one view will take over, then it will jump over to the other view. Don Juan said that the trick is to have command over which side you want to take over, at will. Like 'now I want to see the screen', or now I want to see the greenery'. I'm not sure what exact muscle that's exercising - but somehow it affects the reality we think we're seeing. So much so that when I made a chair disappear, it came to mind THIS IS PROBABLY HOW SHAMANS CAN BE IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES, HOW JESUS WALKED ON WATER, AND HOW KING ARTHUR PULLED THAT DAMN SWORD OUT OF THE ROCK. That's all it is!!! Go cross-eyed and change your reality!! I was so sure this was the secret that I ran into my chair a couple times. Now my knee hurts.

You know what a trash can lid is good for? A shield for a nasty, biting horse when you're trying to clean out the corral. I still have Cowboy's bite mark on my arm. What an SOB he was. I just thought of another use. Using them to make tamales along the roadside in Baja.

Yin-yang

The Dao is like a bellows

I give a big thank you to the revoked mods. Not an easy job, a thankless task. Thanks for all the time you put in.

You absolutely have to get it.

You silver tongued devil

Freethinkers I love it. I've finally found my category. Sometimes I feel like all of it and none of it at the same time.

This is wonderful, E-thing! I'm not sure I've ever seen it put just that way before. That is one of the legs of a 'tripod' when one is triangulating the reason a disease is being manifested. One of the legs goes down into your own self, assuming you've done the inner work to find the source. Another leg goes into the disease itself - what is the body trying to tell him? The third leg of the tripod goes through the childhood memory that created the dynamic to grow, like a snowball rolling downhill. Once found, the dynamic is tweaked by either a ceremony or sometimes just the awareness of the person changes because they now see the connection.

acceptance

My tail, at least.

What has he done that hasn't benefited Russia?

I couldn't agree more with all of it.

I think that's truly the case, as well - that the technological advances have had everything to do with the lack of jobs. BUT....it's so much easier to keep pointing the finger and blaming the government or something. Not so easy at an old age to go back to a trade school. I just moved away from Appalachia - and the area I lived in had been gutted by technology. All the people that worked the steel mills, all the folks that worked the pottery, and all the folks in the coal mines. There are NO JOBS in that area. So people smoke crack to leave the world for a while. It's an unfortunate area to be born into - although very beautiful.

ALLOW. That seems to be the gist of all of it. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm going to be working with a woman today who lives across the street - she is an absolute nervous wreck. Her mind races constantly, she is a nervous talker as well. I am going to start her out on meditation today; I just want to try and get her to empty her mind and relax her body for at least 30 seconds, lol. Glad you said 'allow' because I think that word will resonate with her. She's pretty much a control freak, so the concept of Allowing will be foreign to her. That's where I'll come in. Thanks.