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Glad to have you here, nonee - best wishes on your continual journey - Manitou

I guess what this whole exercise called life is about - gives us the opportunity to file down those darned things. The reward being humility and removal of dross for the Real to shine through.

Not a hair of which has been forced into relaxation. Now there's a concept. If there's anyone on this forum who can maintain this state, my guess is that it would be you, CT.

May the force be with you too, ramblebee! So nice to have you join the forum. If I understand your first sentence correctly, you will be very surprised where you will find him/her. Best wishes on your continual journey - Manitou

Hi Nancybear - have you posted this question in the General Discussion section of the site? This is where more eyes would see it - and there are plenty of us here who are K-active as well. I personally have no experience with the tummo breathing method, I know that it can lead to true bliss. But none of this is easy, is it? My personal issues with kundalini is that it either sits in my crown chakra, burning extremely hot - or sitting divided extremely hot on my shoulder blades. But it has developed the ability to 'see'. Ultimately it burns off the dross we've collected, as you well know. So nice to have you on the forum. I look forward to your input, and do enjoy your continual journey. Manitou

Like slipping out of a tight shoe

Hi Takeshiro - So glad you're here! It's always nice to find someone that wants to spread a little joy. It's an interesting forum, that's for sure - Manitou

Hello Papa Justify - Glad you found the forum. I look forward to your input. You might want to ask your question about Jahnke's book (I'm not familiar with him) and the relaxation methods and qigong in the Taoist Discussion area, with an appropriate title like 'Relaxation and Jahnke' or something similar. Best wishes to you on your continual journey - Manitou

And many do not understand this. Thus, the feeling of justification of remaining just as they are without making the effort to remove the obscurations, insisting that they are remaining true to their original nature. Enlightenment is not realized because their original nature is never been revealed. It remains hidden under the lens of their upbringing, their biases, their prejudices, their hatreds, their judgments. The Clouds.

Welcome, Deekee - looks like your higher self is gaining the upper hand already. Best wishes on your continual journey. Nice to have you here - Manitou

Hi Saulack - welcome to the forum, and I look forward to your contributions. Best wishes on your continual journey. Manitou

Hello Amber - glad you found the forum. If it's esotericism that blows your skirt up, you've found the right place, lol. Very best wishes on your continual journey - Manitou

Thanks, Nungali. Looks like there's a disparity between the formal beginnings of Freemasonry as an organization, and the mystical arts and mathematics that are attributed to Euclid of Egypt, around 300 BCE. Perhaps it started as an informal brotherhood early on and then became more delineated as an organization or formal brotherhood.

I'm currently reading an exposition of the Dead Sea Scrolls - this explanation dates the birth of Jesus to approx 6 BCE; they figure that because they have determined that Halley's Comet made an appearance in that year. (Another book I read puts it at 3 BCE). Of interest also are my recent readings where the Nazarene spent his lost years in India, Tibet, Nepal, Ladakh, and most specifically Kashmir, the Punjab area. The lost years being those years between 13 and 29, of which there is no mention in the New Testament. There is a grave in Kashmir which is of St. Issa (whom they knew as Jesus), or just Issa - and is still revered to this day. If I recall correctly, they place his death at around 110 year old. Because of his knowledge of Buddhism and esoteric understanding, it is the belief of this line of thinking that he survived the crucifixion, due to the fact that he was removed 3 hours after the crucifixion happened, perhaps using eastern methods to transcend the pain. Perhaps the microcosmic orbit or something similar? Joseph of Aramathea, a wealthy man who had purchased a plot of land close to Golgatha and was one of Jesus' followers, it is thought, bribed the officials to let him take the body away prematurely (although they thought he was dead) and he was buried in the nearby tomb. Usually the bodies hung on the crosses for about 6 days. It was there, in the nearby dirt tomb, that his wounds were dressed with huge quantities of aloe and (maybe frankincense?) - I'm not sure about that one - and there is claim that there are remnants of these herbs and essences on the Shroud of Turin. In addition, the Shroud of Turin, according to these 'bookley' sources also shows evidence of Jesus continuing to bleed after he was placed in the linen; plus it is their contention that it was the sweat derived from all the healing herbs that created the image that was captured with very high intensity photography. Their contention being, of course, that corpses neither bleed nor sweat. Interesting conjecture, all this stuff. Merry Christmas all, lol.

Hi pennywhistle - your question will surely be answered here, as Daeluin suggested, in one of the specific forums. I'm guessing there are plenty of folks here who have experienced strange side effects as well. It's an honor to have you here - do enjoy your stay, and best wishes on your continual journey. Manitou

Care to expand? Sounds interesting. I'm not familiar with the mythology of Freemasonry, only Pike's book which enumerates the qualifications for ascension up the degrees. It's not for sissies. I assume you're speaking more of the ritualistic aspect?

fascinating video, the part I watched. I wonder if the pyramids weren't shaped in that triangular shape to resemble phalluses of sorts here on earth? Also, I couldn't help but note the similarity between the optimal ancient Egyptian entrance to death being as a result of dropping earthly fear and all other character traits from being exactly who we are without all the baggage - if you're familiar with Freemasonry the analogy is identical. The 1500 page book (their 'bible', of sorts) by Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, is the very same process. Each degree within the Scottish Rites is not only 'adding' to character in a positive way (more generosity, etc) but mainly 'dropping' the undesirable; the fear, the judgment. The book only speaks up to the 32nd degree. There is no 33rd degree chapter. It is missing, because Morals and Dogma have been transcended - there are no words left. And of course, Freemasonry did have its beginnings in ancient Egypt, if I'm not mistaken.

the Ancients used to think that the sun came up voluntarily, hence the tales of the gods and the chariots. They would get scared when the sun got lower and lower and the days shorter and shorter. When they figured out that the days started getting longer, the winter solstice was a big deal. They knew that the days were about to get longer. This is why so many religious icons like Mithras and Jesus were assigned the date of December 25 as a birth date, to commemorate the 3 days after the solstice.

Hi Netero - great avatar. Welcome to the forum - and best wishes on your journey. Manitou

Hello already - Welcome to the forum, it's an honor to have you here. Best wishes on your continual journey - Manitou

Hi Lancer Wolf - Welcome to the forum, and best wishes on your continual journey -

Hello Behindicebergs - it is an honor to have you here among us. Please enjoy your journey - this is a fun and informative place to be. Love, Manitou

Hello Sheiku, it is an honor to have you here among us. Very best wishes to you on your journey.

I'm guessing this needs to be transcended.

I agree on having to go through the I Am as well, to be more explicit. But the I Am must be gone through, IMO, to the point where no identity at all is reached, the gnosis - which perhaps the Daoist would call the Void? I'm guessing that Gautama spent his 7 years under the tree going within - not relying so much on the words and teachings of others, although they do point the way before the structure can be shed. The way I see it, the I Am is the original Word - the Void or emptiness is what dwells prior, that which cannot be said. The I Am is the One, before the Two, before the Three, before the 10,000. I'm just not seeing a huge difference between the ultimate conclusion in Buddhism or Daoism. Or mystic Christianity. Or Theosophy. Or Islam, where True Jihad is doing battle with and overcoming the flames of Ego - not throwing pipe bombs at your opponents. And yes! It does seem to be a 'backward' process. I have sometimes likened it, on this forum, to standing in a stream, looking downstream, but walking backwards upstream. It is definitely a shedding process. I'm not familiar with the structure, but I do have understanding. I recall when I was maybe 8 years old, walking home from my elementary school. I stopped suddenly and stared down at the sidewalk, caught up in thought, and I said to myself "My soul is tired." Where does an 8 year old get that? And I've felt that way all my life. I want a rest. I need a rest.