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I see what you're saying, and to a degree, agree (what poetry!) I'm thinking on the lines of the following layers though: 1) In a forum such as this, some will come to learn about Taoism, who are completely new to it. Trolls could scare them off and/or give them a wrong impression. I'm not one for systems, but the forum has been created covering a non-systematic philosophy. But all forums require some sort of disciplinary action because that's the standard. So I don't see the harm in blocking, for example, for some whilst they are "training" to be more tolerant. 2) Ok, so we become patient and endure as much as we can to no limits. Fine in theory, but this only protects ourselves. When I was being ignored as a child, it made me want to scream louder. Ignoring trolls on this forum may only make them want to go elsewhere and cause havoc. And so... 3) Can the "problem" even be eradicated? Trolls will be trolls, Taoist will be Taoists, bankers will be bankers, footballers will be footballers etc. My overall conclusion for this thread is, as valuable as the information presented by the OP is, and everyone else's for that matter, it is completely inconclusive. We are all very different people with different ways of tackling things...so there isn't one solution. Rather than a debate though, this is a nice pool of strategies for anyone to chose from! Here's mine...run and give them a big hug Trolls and bullies are scared of love haha

Cool... But own patience and endurance surely is worthless without gunning someone down every once in a while? Otherwise, such "tyrants" are free to run around and spread their annoyance among everyone else...

Never tried this.But I eat chocolate daily. I can't control myself. Might have to go off and make a bunch. See y'all in a week

Now this is a thread! Spice. Curries (Indian, Thai, Malaysian) , piri piri etc

I see what you're saying BKA.Again, it's down to unproven dogmatic stuff that floats around religion and misinterpretations. This forum is quickly making me learn that it's just not worth concerning myself with anything superstitious. Otherwise I'll go round and round in circles, and possibly mad. Back to Taoist simplicity for me...otherwise I'll miss all the heavenly glory

Exactly. I'm a training Taoist getting sucked into a lot of other stuff that is related to a load of other religions/spiritual traditions. Like MH said though, I could be selective. It's just a shame that General Discussions trigger battles. At least there's the actual Taoist forum though...seems cleaner!

This is beautiful. But don't go anywhere! I and many others will support the love here!

RE PMs...in general, yep. Though just had an exception to this rule thrown my way earlier!

Has anybody seen these? Pretty good, even if a bit biased about some things from time to time... Here's episode 1 for those interested: I apologise for the typo in the title of this thread. Can I edit it?

If only I had food on me. I may visit another day.

Peeps not giving you a chance. Ignore it, I would like to know what you have to say.

Jumping back in, in relation to Episode 3. Something that IB and RF might want to try and answer (If you're reading) Please no arguing about anything irrelevant though! All are welcome though if you have any insight on animal channeling.... I just passed a couple of horses and went up to the gate and called them over. One came running and was obviously after some food. It kept licking my hand and trying to find something on me. I played along for a bit, stroking it etc. Then the horse started to get a bit annoying. Obviously, a bit needy...but it really attached to me and even snarled a little as it didn't get what it wanted. I told it I'd come back with a carrot one day, and as I left, I got a really freaky sense from it. The horse didn't move as I walked off. It just stood there and stared. I almost felt guilty...but I continued to stay strong and walk away haha. But my question is this. If I went back and fed it (which I sorta want to) am I going to get into a bit of trouble? Will it become dependent? Will it get upset when I leave again? Is it good for its soul to feed it when it has characteristics of, what Buddhists would describe as, a hungry ghost? To me, there seems to be an obvious reason why it came up to me and the other one hung back. This one seemed like a drug addict. He was eating his hay but wasn't satisfied, so he came to scrounge off me. I just wanted to stroke it. I get there are nicer things to eat than hay, but this was persistence at its finest. Like a robber holding up someone with no wallet, yet continuing to search the victim despite knowing he has nothing! What are your thoughts?

Fair enough. I quite like my sense of humour...oh well

See, I'm 5'10" 147 and do a lot of hill walking with back pack and wing chun. Despite a diet with much more starch, and formerly meat 3x a day, I'm still slightly smaller (and weak imo)

This happens all the time. I seriously think we should just set up a cage fight to the death.

How on earth?? Wow, how are you getting on with this? I'm a man on the move, and this looks really difficult to achieve. Though less pizza would certainly be a good thing for me. This basically says to eat everything alone with no accompaniments. Quick and easy sure, but this is hard, say, if I want to eat out on work/with friends. Which is a lot...

Thank you for sharing. May I ask what your level of activity is and if you're quite slim? I'm always travelling about / exercising thus burning a lot of calories. I couldn't imagine surviving on this sort of diet...all the veg and fruit I'm consuming now is already passing through me - Casper The Ghost style!

With such endurance training, you could become a top spy. And if captured, interrogation would be a walk in the park for you!

RF vs IB round 2!

Yeah. I thought I was schizophrenic at one time. As it turns out, the "real me" was afraid show up so much in "reality". The other "mes" are gradually losing interest in life now. I don't know where they are going though!

Thanks mTYHmAKER, I appreciate it. As for nuts and sweets etc, I see what you're saying. Just running out of ideas of what to eat as I clearly have enough veg and bread/rice as it is! Will do some digging

Interesting scenario today! Saw the GP...this one doesn't even work at the surgery. He was in doing cover and earning "extra christmas money". He is a kickboxer and was completely impartial (so he totally understood my level of activity as a martial artist and was reflective how how impartial I am when giving personal advice) He did not care about my choice, he said that's for me. He cared about what was going on in my belly. It was like it was meant to be. So he has advised that, as previously spoken about, I'm getting plenty of fibre and this is out of balance with my slow release carbs. So if I want to stay veggie, I should work out a better diet plan that balances this out. We mutually agreed that supplements were a bit of a forced idea, but he feels that I can get through this given time and patience. Half the world don't eat meat due to lack of availability, but all find a way. I thought this was a very interesting point! He also said, we are omnivores though. By nature, we eat what we have in front of us to survive. I loved his balanced argument...I really do have more research to do. About ny diet then...here is a typical day: Breakfast - 2 slices of wholemeal toast, 2 boiled eggs. Cereal,OJ, green tea Mid morning - banana, unsalted cashews Lunch- wholemeal sandwich with veg pate and salad Mid aft- protein flapjack (oats,peanut butter,honey,whey protein) Dinner- veg and bean burrito inc rice and salad. Before bed-chocolate jaffa cakes or dark choc digestive biscuits because I'm hungry as hell and tired of all the sensible foods i've eaten all day lol Plenty of water throughout the day. Sometimes a black coffee with 2 sugars at one point in the day too. So the bread and veg will easily cause gas, says the GP. If anyone spots anything that should be changed, you will be of great help! As of now though, I'm still veggie. Persisting. Just.

The longest living celebrity. Media just won't let God be Must be something in it then. Even if whatever it is and how much of a role it plays is far beyond reach.

I've always liked "Confuse-Us"

I remember having a similar chat with Stosh a couple of months ago. It seems to me that anything done with thought and/or emotion is somewhat distant from nature. I use happiness and sadness as an example. To the extremes, there is moments of sheer excitement and ecstacy, and there is depression. Both equally as illusory as each other....as well as anything else on the spectrum. But then there is that feeling...that undescribable feeling. It relates not to happiness or excitement, but it just feels "right". It makes us content with things. I, as well as everyone I'm sure, reach this in mediation. So for me, this chapter is a display and an example of how ideas between two oppoaing forces cannot be changed. The attempts will be futile and the desire to want to change things is so far from the Tao and can only lead to that illusory emotion of disappointment.