Songtsan

Is it time for me to stop the the infighting and store up some energy?

Wow - it does sound like a wonder food - you sure you aren't secretly a Macademia nut salesman? lol...how long have you been on this diet?

This is funny You guys remember that our reifying personalities are temporary manifestations and thus not worth taking so seriously? Or maybe they are worth taking seriously? I don't know... May Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, Krishna, Jehovah, and all the others please educate me as to my course - so may it be! I have placed my intention out there to the universe that I am open to following the true course. In the absence of intervention from these heavenly sources, I listen to the voice of Shakti, which some have likened to the voice of the devil. However, Shakti has existed long before the name Satan ever was. What a strange and curious world we live in. I stay true to myself. That's what I do.

If you are truly immortal, then you know that this place is simply a big play pen. All forms are illusions and we all inter-exist within each other. Therefore, we are all ourselves and everyone else! Therefore, we all co-own everything! So, therefore, anything I touch is mine (and yours too!) That's how easy it is to let go of objects. Realize that we have all been born before and will exist again in multiple frequencies. This is endlessness.

Also, think of this: If a child (4 years old) that you don't know is walking down the street, and has just found a cool and very sharp knife that someone drops (finders keepers), would you let him go along his way, thinking "It's his because he found it fair and square.." or would you do the right thing and take it from him so he doesn't hurt him self with it? There are child-like adults in this world with expensive toys (like missiles and machine guns), who, while technically in ownership of such things, should be relieved of such things because they are arrogant child-like idiots in big-man-pants.. This is why it takes a village to raise a child. This is why certain gluttons should be made to give their toys away so that all the kids in the sand box can play... It depends on balance of course... If the trends keep going the way they are, and the greedy kids suck up all the resources, I expect that things could get ugly. This is why I encourage people to take a shared view of ownership of things... However, should I become overbalanced in my fervor, then I too am an idiot. It's about balance... Power corrupts, unless it is held by the wise...

Actually it is one of my greatest goals in life to combine East and West. This is my personal quest and I am not at all trying to proselytize anyone. I find that the commonalities between Eastern and Western approach are becoming more and more apparent. I may be in essence creating a hybrid system. I have the equivalent of a B.S. in Psychology (about 26 credits short of a major), as I have continued to study Psychology on my own after graduating in 2005... I have also been co-studying Eastern methodologies since the age of 18.. I would say that I am a Universalist Sufi type...I often have Abrahamic, Atheistic, Agnostic, Taoist, Vedantic, Tantric, Buddhist, Scientific, Satanic, Hermetic, Shaivic, Shamanic views, and other beliefs as well including aliens and beyond. You may be confused how I can embody all of these divergent views. It's is easy. Empty Mind Know Nothing Believe what I want in the moment Enjoy life

I'm really interested in this diet Secretgrotto...I think I will give it a shot. What is the cheapest and best source for Macademia nut oil/butter on the internet that you know of? It sounds a bit expensive, but I would like to give it a shot in combination with complete proteins and a very small amount of complex carbs in the morning...but if you really believe and have benefitted from the ketogenic diet I may go all the way.

Hi guys, in response to your replies: I am indeed in therapy and addressing these very issues. I find that these desires, which I deem semi-irrational in my current form, reduce my ability to strive for important goals. I do not think that sexual deviancy is to be scorned or condemned. I of course hold a very compassionate view towards those who are caught up in this same struggle. I have viewed men who would dress up in female clothing as imbalanced. I myself have cross dressed. In Portland, they have a party every year called 'Prom Disaster' where the men dress up like women and women dress up like men. There are plenty of straight guys and girls doing this btw...- I won best 'female' the time I went. I think it is fun to play dress up and feminize oneself as a male if done tastefully. I would never want to look clownish or garish like some transvestites.. I also hiighly value male machismo. I have been to prison and can act very manly and beat the shit out of lots of guys - MMA style. When I bulk up at the gym I look like a beast. I embody great Yang attributes. I value my facile ability to change my nature in these ways My girlfriend thinks that I simply like to look beautiful. I agree. I think that our current genderfication in most countries tends to encourage the women to look beautiful and the men to look warrior-like, or else business proffesional. I was never one to bend to social pressure. I believe in free will of expression, including the free will to like or dislike others expressions.. Basic shit. I am not ashamed of who I am. If someone else feels some type of way about feminized males, then that is actually their illness, not the feminized men's problem. You should deal with your own illness. By 'illness' in this situation, I mean anything that generates aversion. If you are averse, or negatively attached, you should strive for equanimity. This is what makes an adult in my opinion...just because some other men and women wrote down some words in books thousands of years ago doesn't mean shit to me. I make my own way. You are what you believe. I hold my own belief systems strong and don't allow the pressure of others belief systems to cage me in doubt, fear, or self-hatred. To me this is weak. I have surpassed the beliefs/views of Buddha and Jesus. I met them on the road and killed them fair and square. Their OPINIONS do not rule me.

So, having skimmed through the responses, I should clarify that I would never go and take someone else's objects that they were in possession of. I don't think any one owns any thing, yet we temporarily hold on to them. I do think that every one owns every thing. On the whole, the collective is what owns; on an individual basis, it is the fragmented individual which holds possession of. I must admit I have always held Marxist views... My views are constantly changing. So are the objects we hold. So, as nothing stays the same, nothing is as it was, there are no concrete objects. Imagine that I hold a fist full of sand. I could say that I own it, that I have claimed it, but it will be running through my fingers the whole time. I always keep the opposite view in mind so that I can function in duality. , without incurring opposing karma, I.e. action/reaction. Really the purpose of the original statement was to limit envy and greed, grasping and seeking by reminding myself that I already am those things I seek, including body forms. By embracing all the objects I perceive as my own self, which implies possession of those things as me and my own in the moment, I feel a sense of peace and completion. Vicarious enjoyment is based on this. I can enjoy without possessing, own without having. All ideas are mine. All form objects that I perceive are mine...you may 'own' the car, but the percept is mine and mine alone... So we share ownership in this way It is simply a mental trick which leads to bliss. If I see a nice Audi with spinning rims, I 'pretend' that it's mine and remove the veils of envy and attachment. Imagining that you already have the things you want, and are already the person you wish to be creates that bliss reward. So I am wealthy beyond my means... I have millions of dollars in the bank. I take that underlying reifying thought construct which defines me and make it already achieved. This cuts away that constant feeling of incompleteness which pervades my moment. In the end this is all mind. I seek to go beyond this, which is why I take this view-trick lightly..

So I have been going through deep processing over these last few days and have come to the understanding that I suffer deeply from narcissistic personality disorder. My focusing on my Desire Body has helped keep me alive to this very day (I have been suicidal since age 9 or so). There is also perfectionist traits within me which I must mention here because in my perfectionism and love for Eastern metaphors, I have willfully disregarded my own cultures understandings of such things in lieu of addressing my problems through the openly available routes. So I sought solace through Eastern methodologies, while not fully or truly embracing their paths in all their beauty, as a way of escapism through philosophical metaphor. I have not truly embraced any religion...merely picked from their interesting or applicable facets. This is why I am such a chameleon. This applies to the thread topic in that I decided to follow my desire to its fruition in order to come to the point that I have this moment, which shall surely change in the next. Mainly now my path is to formulate and integrate new habits until such time that I can approach wu wei...

I would also add that attention to correct posture and body mechanics is of paramount importance when beginning meditation, if it hasn't already been said...sorry I'm posting from my cell phone and its super slow.. What I think is that there is a real balance between tuning the breath while maintaining good support architecture. If you practice relaxation technique combined with skillful adjustment of muscle tension and modification, this will set the stage for complete auto-body relaxation.

Hey guys, haven't had time to read the replies as I am at work, but I have come to the same conclusion that I always do in the end...that is 'know nothing' - I.e. I again became involved in nonsensical mental chatter. All views are relative to perspectives, which are infinite in nature. I could argue from any side or stance... I again will stop wasting time/energy on mental confabulations and get right back to cultivating... If I have wasted anyones time/energy I apologize. I will attempt to stop making scurilous (I think that's the right word) posts and only post important questions

I think the gist of what I was saying was that we can all appreciate the beauty of the myriad things around us as if we owned them all, without actually needing to possess them. Beautiful women/men, cars/houses, boats, mountains and whatnot. When I see envy or greed in myself I remind my selfsies of these things....remembering to be content with what matters most (you decide what that is)

No I wasn't insulted I was having fun...but multi-tasking so honestly not taking everything in...I was doing all kinds of activities at the time I wrote that stuff so I probably didn't pay as much attention as I should. I am a typical ADHD child. I will look over everything more closely and respond more appropriately in a day or so...probably in the end I will admit defeat...I was just blowing off steam

OK OK...I will admit I was playing philosopher games here... However...it was fruitful for me. I will explain later. I am tired and need to sleep. There is no rest for the wicked, and it is the mind that is most wicked. Time for my mind to shut up so I can rest.

Alright, there is also this: Drop the Body as an Object of Possession Is it you, or the body that suffers? The body is mere electrochemical sensations. How's that? All you will ever experience is the electrochemical sensations, nothing else. So. What are you concerned about? If you own nothing, then let the body go. You don't own it. Why fear dissolution? If you own everything, which I believe also, then should you fear loss or pain? Suffering is due to perceived loss... Not having what one once had...degradation. The one who owns nothing fears no loss. The one who owns everything fears no loss. What more can be said?

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I suppose I will explain deeper and not be so cryptic... Anytime something is in your head, you can be said to be in possession of 'it' since it is inside of you. When I walk over a bridge, I am in fact, setting foot upon myself. If I eat a piece of bread, the bread then becomes me. If a mosquito sucks my blood, then is our essence not shared? You are what you eat. These are basic tenets of Advaita Vedanta Indras net ring a bell? I am not trying to proselytize however, or cajole or convince you to my way. I am simply writing for the sheer enjoyment of it. I am experiencing my God given right to allow myself to be a Perceiver of Bliss... How can suffering be bliss? When one embraces ones own eternal existence, one realizes that we all must share all things. This is the Yin Yang and ebb and flow Fair is fair... As in Indras Net, we are all That Is... When one suffers, we all suffer When one exalts, that shout is heard across the universe We share everything equally God is indivisible. Can you ever, truly separate anything from anything? Keep trying to break things down, and you will always find more to divide, endlessly and forever. This is the nature of our reality. It is what it is. I do not fear dissolution. All forms must take their place in the never ending destruction/creation cycle. When you realize this, you can relax and let go.

FYI this thread was posted with an intention of having a lighthearted philosophical conversation....not that I necessarily desire to influence your tone, but I am just saying....

No...I think my mind has simply been polluted by nondualism and philosophies of perennialism...

True! Yet also not true... To own is to 'be in possession' of. Let's break this down: Be - 'Exist' 'Occur' 'Take place' In -expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else. Possession -the state of having, owning, or controlling something. Since all objects are simply in and of the mind, and Mind is available to everyone, we all have mind, and we all have all objects. We can attain absorption on any object. Perceiver, act of perception, and the perceived become one. Possession implies occupancy We all inter-exist everywhere at once...quantum physics agrees, Buddhism agrees, Vedanta agrees, holism agrees... Therefore I/we own everything...or are owned by it - same thing really Being is owning the moment You are It It is yours 'I am that'

I think that really what I want is develop a formless body, so that I can become anything I want at any time....this is my true desire I think that I must then enter formlessness in order to experience a formless body?

By spirit guides I mean Kundalini, thought constructs, Djinn, aliens, anything that comes from an other source and cannot be identified..they may simply be fragmented parts of myself, who knows? I keep an open mind...messages from angels? Walled of parts of myself? who can say..I meditate and things come up and talk to me, I let them in and experience kriyas on all levels...I think that they are my self - walled off pieces...or maybe alien entities... My intuition is that they are me Now, if I continue to allow these little parts of myself to enter and express themselves, I feel i will get somewhere.. This is like 'burning off karma' in this case I view karma as repressed desires, that were shunted to another level of existence and quarantined...then now expressing.. When I was about 7 years old, I had some sexual experiences which made me want to be a girl...i wont get too detailed here, but i really don't mind sharing this info because it helps those who have suffered similar events...what likely happened is that I encountered past life desires because I am sure I was a woman at some point in time through all the lives I've lived...since I have a tendency to easily tap into the astral plane and my multiple selves, coming from a spiritualist family, I was open to my former selves urges... and so, being born in a male body, I was certainly confused, given the times and climes...

interesting...I am obsessed with the desire body, but not not paying attention to the others either, but there is certainly imbalances if one is being a perfectionist in needing everything just right. As far as male/female dichotomies, I think that it is very likely that if I keep focusing on my desire to be female, I will simply be reborn as one... I have many years to live yet. Who knows what phases I may enter and leave? Practicing non-attachment on a subtle level, I ask myself 'why not?' Hearing of this thing called 'extinction,' 'total enlightenment,' 'true fulfillment,' etc. I find myself moderately interested, yet not grasping much honestly... I ask myself what this means...should I become ardently serious to adopt someone else's fervent desire out of their own expressed fears of being caged? What if I have become comfortable being caged? I have mine own desires....I need not adopt someone elses...yet if someone said just the right thing and made me hunger for their path or experience, I might. I have learned to overcome suffering for the most part, yet still maintain levels of extreme desire for certain things...does this mean that I haven't experienced them enough yet? How do I know I haven't just been born for the first time? What if I have been born thousands or millions of times? Who is to say? Is anything really, truly better than anything else? Is a rock lesser than a tree? deep thoughts by Songtsan