Songtsan
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Well, sexual sublimation of that type is a preliminary technique, not at all a deeper mystery in terms of having a best time to approach it. It's basic, one of the first steps one can take. A frank, lighthearted and nonchalant discussion of it is therefore warranted. In India, among the youth, brahmacharya is practiced by the very young. So to consider it inmature to discuss it is shortsighted in that it's a very physical beginner basis for further exploration. Also, check out the No Fap community...they are doing it as a regenerative process to heal the psyche and mental outlook - to cure hyper-sexual-obsession of course, but also as an energy developing technique. And then you have the scientific basis for its benefit, notably upregulation of testosterone receptors, increased dopaminergic activity, reduced prolactin levels. Its just an easy fix for many problems - something that is fun to explore and experiment with.
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best just leave them be not petting the sweaty things Avoid temptation
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so I have heard/read....read some book on it once - I feel it's a likely ability one could cultivate
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I really appreciate all the effort you put into this...hearing it described this way helps me greatly.. I am wondering whether the heart part of the nervous system forms before the brainstem, etc...haven't had time to do any research, I am having great stress with interpersonal affairs... enteric nervous system also - which nervous system comes first? I will have to find out - it may or may not be useful.....
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I told my therapist about this thread, he has a strong Zen background (I lucked out in finding him), and he referred me to this koan: Ummonâs âEveryone Has Their Own Lightâ Engo's introduction Controlling the world, he allows not the least speck of dust to escape. He cuts off the deluded stream of thought, leaving not a drop behind. If you open your mouth, you are mistaken. If you remain silent, you have missed the way. Tell me, what is the eye that has pierced the barriers? Case: Ummon spoke to his assembly and said, âEverybody has his own light. If he tries to see it, everything is darkness. What is this light?â Later, he answered his own question. âThe halls and the front gate.â And again, he said, âEven a good thing is not as good as nothingâ Setcho's verse: It illuminates itself, Absolutely bright. He gives a clue to the secret. Flowers have fallen, trees give no shade; Who does not see, if he looks? Seeing is nonseeing. Nonseeing is seeing. Facing backward on the ox, He rides into the Buddha hall.
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I have been meaning to try this...they have a place in town which charges like $60 an hour, but I always seem to have more important things to do with that kind of money..I too would like to one day build myself one of these. I also want to build a motor-powered wheel to lie down on with my head at the center, perhaps placed in a forest or what not, and have it spin me around so that all visions blurred into a spinning mandala like kaleidoscopic experience...maybe I should try to crowd fund that!
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I'm at the point where I can get as much as I want and I prefer to get it from myself instead...I love sublimating. Whenever I do it I swear that guys and girls can sense it and they are attracted to me like magnets. I'm a player too and I like to entice...I'm not saying I'm a tease but I make people work for it. As far as I'm concerned, if you are sublimating, you are and you aren't missing something. Its a double edged sword. I am a fan of Karezza however...I'm not a die hard brahmacharya by no means...every boy and girl and in between should enter these realms and see the sites. There is opportunity for enjoyment every which way. But if you haven't concretely explored the trends multiple times, you won't see them.
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If it weren't for sex, none of us would exist. So it can't be that profane. Also, look at some of the temples in India. Sex used to be venerated - you know Shivalingams and Yoni sculptures, fertility Goddesses, etc. What's wrong is stigmatizing someone else's supposedly purile fascination with objects, when we are all fascinated by objects of one type or another, including spiritual objects, such as Buddha statues or Mandalas. Seeing greater than or lesser than is mind created suffering.
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Well, quantum physics says that all electrons exist everywhere at once, and then there is farseeing, which the CIA itself has researched extensively, as well as Russian intelligence, it seems plausible that one could 'tune in' to the energy expressions that are happening elsewhere, if the focus and ability was there. It says in Patanjali's sutras that this and many other interesting things are possible.
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Well maybe instead of creating a female cultivation forum, they should just have a male sexual cultivation forum instead, and all posts of this nature just get shunted there.. anyways, as to the original thread topic, I was like 'Dammmmmnnnn!' - after reading the article I was like 'Bullshit!' I don't think I ever made it past 5 times a day, now I am like once a month or less...I had an association memory of this nature show I watched where this lion was mating with a lioness in heat for like the who knows what time (it was a lot), and when he finished, he had this look on his face like he was super suffering and pissed off... usually if I have the urge to splurge, I just visualize myself doing it over and over in all kinds of neat ways and scenarios, until I get bored with it and my mood shifts towards other interests...
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add strawberries, please! And that's an order to go Where is it going?
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Also, as far as carrying on the work while out and about, does reversing the light while doing daily activities resemble dissociation? Some days I feel involuted, as if life is a dream, and I feel a real intense inner presence, as if I am feeding the universe back into my self. My body seems to operate as if from a distance, including social interactions. I have a sense as if I am breathing in Reality, or the Universe, and eating it, directing its energies into my being. I understand that everything that is perceived is actually already within the mind, and not really outside at all. I am wondering about the motor cortex and pre motor cortex and how what we give our energies to creates new growth within the brain...does turning the light around create new growth within the reflexive center itself, as well as the source of consciousness within the heart. I am thinking that it would be useful to study the formation of the human embryo from zygote and seeing what develops first, and then perhaps extrapolating from this the pathways of evolution. The term 'Source progenitor' has always enthralled me...I need to look more into that. I want to know these things both directly and indirectly (analytic/theoretic)... Relaxation seems paramount. The opposing force - doing - sending energy outwards is about trying to change the universe. Here is the exhaustion. It seems that by entering fully into presence, true relaxation, and allowing the universe to change ones own self instead, is how growth and rebirth occurs.
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What causes the "flatline" effect during abstinence
Songtsan replied to HoldorFold's topic in General Discussion
I am taking a supplement called Tongkat Ali, AKA Longjack which I am finding interesting. I often have hyper-inflated testosterone based and dopamine linked mood states which make me feel like I can kick anyones ass or die trying - this is exactly the type of energy which I wish to preserve and cultivate as it is this mojo which brings forth fruition in terms of practice. -
What causes the "flatline" effect during abstinence
Songtsan replied to HoldorFold's topic in General Discussion
Personally I feel that it is due to not 'giving into' the urge on occasion and letting it thrive, although you still don't cross the line and complete the desire. If you don't fan the flames of desire, then you lose that energy to work with. Trying not to think of sexual delights at all is not something I mess with anymore...it seemed to lead to depression, whereas enlivening my sexual expression and playing with it seems to give me boundless energy...what would you be if you were truly desireless? Maybe just a piece of dead meat - you need to keep some kind of wind in your sails. That's what alchemy is all about. I feel that my spiritual desires, as far as wanting enlightenment or to be a tool of God, are often fickle. My sexual desires are strong. In bhakti yoga, they specifically encourage the turning of the sexual energies towards the divine, which is why I love Tantra so. You don't have to want people on the physical plane. There are plenty of devas and dakinis/dakas, etc out there to turn your lust towards. I also have thoughts based on evolutionary psychology which tend towards thinking that the body is being entropic, and that if it is tricked into believing that there are no chances for sexual outlet, then it wil shut down the urge to prevent excessive emotional outlay, thus putting one into a torporish hibernation state to conserve energy. -
Yep! I have oft wondered about possession and vampiric entities. And I also have the childhood trauma too....I think sometimes that if you have felt suicidal at a young age, it may be that something entered into an unsuspecting young person's energy body and fixed on...not sure yet..
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So would you recommend specifically focusing on the Niwan to start with? I have mainly been looking here and feeling the sense of being 'sucked back' into it. If you had to do it all over again, how exactly would you have started? I haven't been very stable in my intentions - sometimes trying to start at dantien and go into the orbit as per traditional Mantak Chia style MCO methods, other times doing Niwan. Honestly I am all over the place creating no real foundation as far as habit-building...playing games with my energy body essentially.. As far as anapanasati, I find I can feel the breath anywhere in the body, so I would like to fix myself somewhere outside of the traditional breath pathways involving nose, chest, diaphragm, etc.
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I resonate with this...expansion vs. concretization and stagnation...lately I have been thinking that I should become comfortable with redundancy, knowing that redundancy is an illusion. Being on parole is interesting. I have great urges to go traveling, and am stuck somewhere that isn't as magical as other places have been for me. I also have felt a guilt - a guilt at being jack of all trades - the grasshopper vs. the ant, but then I realized that I was just comparing myself to others expectations of what makes an 'achieved' or fully developed human being... I view what I am doing as 'spiraling inwards' - circling the heights of many things and absorbing quickly the fascinations of each in a vague, fuzzy way, enough to get a real taste, and then once I find myself going back to a specific flavor over and over again, I know that I can urge surf down into a deeper level of tasting the sites.
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and shout banana! Or go get a banana Pretend it's a gun
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vaporisation. Where did those molecules go? Hither and thither!
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Choosy moms choose Jif, because the Jif chose them...
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Interesting! It seems that the architecture already contains all things - pleasures and hells and whatnot... I am getting great feedback here...how I love hearing all the angles. Do you think that focusing on specific areas bit by bit, track by track, gives you the ability to map out and directly connect to the various subtle 'tattvas' (using that word generically) and spark them at will? This is side-tracking of course... I already have enough good info for a long while
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I am thinking that if my veils of ignorance were removed, I would be better able to choose. Lacking this, it seems that removing the veils of ignorance is currently my goal... ...of course, in order to do this, I must empty myself of goals, which hide the clear light...
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Hell's yeah.
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I have many times felt a 'sick energy' that made life seem horrible, diseased, and alien...as if I was in hell and this was a torment for my soul. These are the times I really wanted to end it or actually tried. It is like a disease of the nervous system almost - a psychic energy which seems utterly horrendous - as if the world and everyone in it was an insane evil carnival delusion that one was caught in and which could only be escaped with death. I doubt everything (religion, good intentions, that there are any compassionate spirits out there). It goes in line with paranoia. Other times I would just have a bleak, lusterless lethargic feeling of 'no life.' This wasn't as motivating to commit suicide as the stuff above, yet would create intense lasting stagnation which affected my whole being - completely derailing my forward progress. Sometimes the trick was just to let go and not try to be not-depressed, then I was just experiencing that energy without being negatively attached to it.
