BaguaKicksAss

Yeah unfortunately that is one reason that women are sometimes hesitant to accept a drink from a guy, or be alone with someone they don't know . Call me paranoid but I always walk with the guy up to the bar... though I've noticed that guys usually offer this these days for the same reasons. Though I usually order bottled water ROFL.

But my debating (photos) response to your post would be against ToS lol

Be nice to each other folks, or I'm going to start posting sappy love poetry and Dali Lama quotes

So from the other thread, what do you folks think of dating sites? Are the rules any different? Do they work?

So thought I'd play the devil's advocate here (since this thread already seems destined for a certain place within a few pages) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia Though this fortunately isn't a majority of the population by any means.

Not tell people one's main passions? Screw that . Well for me anyways. Did you know that some women do searches under interest for things like "qigong" and "magic" . *deleted online dating rant*

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Actually, out of all the guys I know (lots since I practice martial arts), the one who actually gets the most dates codes well enough that he has written his own (and used by others) programming language, heh. I think in today's time the whole mathlete and computer geek thing isn't as strong, but when I went to school it really was .

Coding is sexy!

Well really, it's all about how good your Bagua is. Simple fix there.. All the women I polled agree! .

Isn't "geek guys being hot" a new *thing* these days? Are you saying that inviting her out for a LARP event wouldn't be the best first date? Unless it's something like a criminal record, or the fact you are married I personally think leaving a few things out is fine for the first month or so... For new jobs and dates, I like to get all that sort of stuff out of the way, so when they do find out later they don't have a change of heart, but that's just my odd personal quirk. The magic thing I tend to cover right away (and even do so when looking for a place to live!) I do know many people who never tell their employer though, as some people fire them for such things . I also know some folks who have never told their wife/husband!!! Hold on, how did we get from acting really mean to people to get some, over to fluffing up one's resume and leaving torrid geek interests out when meeting?

You also have to be attractive to pull this one off though, AND have a half decent personality... There is this guy I know... he owns several properties and likes to remind me of it, often . So a couple of years back he buys this new car, a custom colour mercedes suv. Knowing he never leaves the city, I asked him how come you bought this car in particular? "To get women of course". He also joined some local club for millionaires only. He also bought an actual Rolex watch (you can tell the real ones because they weigh like 5lbs!) for the same purpose. He also dresses well when he goes out. I'm sure everyone knows the one friend/acquaintance who is just always single, like for a decade or few? That's him. In his case it is mostly due to his personality. He's nice and all for the first while... He would let me stay over when I visited the city when I was out of town, in trade for computer repair.... The first day, we got along great! Day 2, I would start to make excuses about why I needed to head back home earlier than expected. He was *that* difficult to be around! Well he's part of the magic community, so quite a few of my social circle know him... he's been asked to leave a few meetups (due to being too preachy and hard headed). He has asked every single one of us women out.... (he was respectful about it each time at least). He's alright looking, highly intelligent, and even has some good sense about him, with some areas of his life lol. His getting the car thing did not improve his dating life at all (unfortunately, as we all did want to see him do well). So here is the funny thing, he did eventually find a girlfriend!! We were all so thrilled! (meant he'd stop phoning the rest of us lolol). But the funny bit is, she was the sort who didn't care about money at all, rode a bicycle, didn't really like material possessions and was really down to earth! (though after they dated for awhile she did call him a cheapskate for making her pay more than her half a couple of times). We all got to know his new girlfriend (she's really nice), and she is most definitely not the going after money type. She apparently IS the really patient type though . It lasted about a year! Then she moved out. PS her personality may be in the upper numbers, but the purely physical appearance, more like just average. We do all hope he finds another though. Oh that reminds me, they did get back together for a bit, until she was home alone one day and a prostitute that he saw regularly while they were dating called and left a message.... oops. That ended that. (yes they were regularly sexually active). Perhaps I should send him some PUA vids...

I could just see it now, me asking Kali-ma to help me find a relationship..... (any request to her always has the outcome of great amazing spiritual growth through loss of ego and hard work!) I'll just file this under "careful what you wish for". PS checkout the few posts on magic for dates, it is semi interesting... page 21 or 23 I think... Wow, we are up to page 29! Have we all figured out how to pickup women yet?

That reminds me of a couple of primary complaints in long term relationships... about the partner "letting themselves go"... not dressing up anymore, gaining weight, etc. etc. I think with the job, as long as your resume' is legit, you aren't being dishonest. Everyone dressed up for an interview. I see some of the dating scene (men and women) as being more like talking about jobs and experience you've never actually had . No bad can ever come from joining a running club! (yes I'm biased). Though if one were to do that and at the same time ditch all their friends because they just aren't "cool" enough, well that is kinda lame....

I'm going to share my "good guys finish first" story. That whole "good guys finish last" stuff is really annoying. So this is something that happened in my early 20's, all by chance. (I can get further ones from my female friends if I am far from a proper selective sample lol). So I used to get flirted with a LOT, not a 10, but did get dates with a few 10's . I was also sort of picky, especially if it was just for sex. Looks were less important if an actual relationship. So I had gone to the bar one night with 3 of my male (all platonic) friends. 2 of them lived in the same building as myself, and another one just knew all of us. 2 of them were co-workers actually. We used to hang out a lot and go on various adventures together. Well for some unknown reason we went to this pickup bar one night, which was about an hour busride from home.... Enjoyed some music, had a few drinks... Well about halfway through the evening, we notice one of our friends is not in the bar. So we scour the entire place, can't find him. So I start asking around.. he sort of stuck out... apparently the bouncers had beat him up and thrown him outside (he was rather big and intimidating, but not a fighter at all). So we all go outside and find our laying on the ground with lots of blood. This was in the days before cel phones, so we are trying to figure out how to get him to the hospital. This guy who had just left the bar figured out what was going on, and offered to give us all a ride to the hospital. Then he even waited until our friend was done (an hour or so). Then offered to give us all rides home (especially the guy with the broken nose). Fortunately for him 3 of us all lived in the same building. So we get there... help my friend into his apartment.... then after him and I confirmed to the guy we were not dating, just friends (in other words he was under the impression that him and I were dating this entire time, so not doing it just in the hopes of getting the girl), I invited the guy back to mine . Well yes he was attractive as well, but it is very likely if he'd just walked up and offered to buy me a drink I would have likely said no. So the moral of this story is, be nice to people, help people, and you will get laid! My female friends agree with this one btw.

As long as you are treating folks with respect all is good. If you are being mean to folks because you just don't realize it yet, that's not nearly as bad as purposefully trying to mess up people, for your own personal gain. Though always working on oneself is good. IMO.

Wow, very cost affective! Has this worked for you before?

Uhm, I might have some difficulty with that one . Well 1/3 of that anyways...

Hmmm, looking over the poll, I have to say I never had a problem being distracted by women when I was younger... .

I personally can't think of a better Friday night than a Bagua class! Sometimes one of my students agrees... The thing about Friday and Saturday evenings is that you are supposed to have as much fun as possible (imo). So obviously you would do something you enjoy. I didn't start martial arts until I was 38, unfortunately. Those art lessons were great as a kid, but too bad it wasn't Bagua! Oh well art *does* pay the bills, and I enjoy it . You have noooo idea how frustrating it is when you have never practiced any body/movement memory stuff in your entire life and you are trying to keep up with martial arts classes! It is even worse when the rest of the people in the class have all been at it 5-7 years *and* are half your age! My first year or two of Bagua was one of the most frustrating times in my life! If only I'd attended more than 2 of those teakwondo classes in my early 20's . (though some tell me it would have ingrained bad habits into me). Then again, in my early 20's I was rather busy chasing guys, partying and so forth, not so sure if I would have put in enough practice to make it worth it. Starting in my late 30's I trained as much as I physically could, every single day. I hear that much practice really helps. Better late than never I guess. Magical/spiritual practices I started at 19 (I'm 43 now). Would have been awesome if I'd started those even younger too. Well actually, I did have some training when I was 5 by a theosophist friend of the family, but I don't remember any of those . So to answer the poll, not sure if I count my martial arts training only or no?

You don't have to offer your own blood to work with Goetia? What sort of horseshit have you been reading? I've been working with Goetia for over 20 years... It didn't work because you are likely new to those techniques is all. Offering something in trade works. But also, if it's for someone specific, the person has to have at least a little interest, or it won't work.

Some days I'm convinced Bagua or ZZ would do it also . However, a lot has to be said for a steaming hot bath afterwards this time of year, as well as head to toe clothing! I walked to the gym and back in shorts, that's as close as I'm getting to any of those gtummo sitting in snow things, thanks. There *was* a heavy frost on the ground and a few frozen patches, but it was only 2C.

*Waits for RF's discource on how to use western magic and/or tantra to attract... people*

But I've had sex with them, and sex magic with them, and beleive me, there is a difference. Women can definitely feel a difference on the other end. Sex magic really is pretty much useless for mutual energy stuff if the guy has already gone and released earlier that day. Now if it's been at least a few days, different story entirely! (though I'm pretty sure all this was very thoroughly covered in the yin / yang threads...)

That... is kind of humorous. I mean in the sense that you are now Buddhist . Give her a call?