BaguaKicksAss

Here's a humorous story to go along with the theme of this thread . So today I was out and about doing chores..... This guy comes up to me... Guy: "hello" Me: "hi" Guy: "you are beautifu" Me: "thank you :)" Guy: "what is your name?" Me: "actually tells him my name since he was actually being nice about it" Guy: "want to go for coffee" Me: "no thanks, I"m good" (said in a nice way)' Guy: "are you sure?" Me: "yes, but thank you" Guy walks off.... 30 seconds later I hear my name called Guy: "do you have $2.50?" ROFL

Careful, last time someone made a joke like that.... For taking the vid, you could just wear sunglasses and suck it up Or rent a small gym or crossfit place for an hour. Could prob get one for $100.

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Not personally offended since it isn't about me in particular, more offended (or perhaps the word would be disappointed) in people treating each other in such a way, and encouraging others to do so. Hmmmm, I've been able to overcome it a couple of times when I was head over heals over someone... more like just making myself think of them in another way. Though I'd definitely say ask them real quick first in case there is interest . Most folks start out with a few compliments first to see how it goes, instead of going right out and asking them to be your girlfriend. See how she reacts to you mentioning she is pretty for example, then take it from there. *Cheers on Nine tailed fox, no matter which approach he takes*. ______________________________________________________ PS thanks everyone for helping me with my Bagua training .

You do a spell on another person you are influencing them plain and simple, At least admit what you are doing. You do a spell on yourself, and you are making yourself more desirable. I already gave a list of reasons why you might not want to do it, perhaps you missed half of them? The main reason is you are likely going to grow bored of this person as soon as you find out who they really are. Or just say some person you are not attracted to were to do one of you . Though to be honest, I don't feel working love or lust magic is any worse, and actually not quite as bad, as treating a lady like crap to increase her low self esteem enough (the other methods presented in this topic), to get her to date someone. Though sort of like the low self esteem from dating someone who treats them like crap stays around after, coercive magic does make their will a little weaker, in a few areas of their life, and doesn't just end when you walk away or stop the magic (though I doubt you have the skills to stop it after you are done). Yes female lol, hence why all the posts which are basically "treat them like crap so they feel confused and worthless so you can get some" are a bit offensive.

Been there (about the biggest hurdle thing). I vote you tell her, if she's a good friend, but not interested, it won't bother her and she will just accept it as a compliment. But I know what you mean, it is definitely hard to work up the courage. Being turned down sucks! I tend to say something though, just so I don't have to go through the wondering while we hang out all the time doing stuff together... then I can get on with life and move over to a platonic mindset, instead of a does he like me romantically mindset. Ha, magic, and wishing you could have any woman you wish for.... I would say "be careful what you wish for". I have seen some love/lust magic go... not so well. Have you ever really really wanted someone, more than anyone else in the world, so much so that you would do magic to get them... but then years later when you know them better (but never did date them fortunately) you wonder wtf were you thinking? Well I have seen folks work magic on someone for a relationship, get the person, *then* after a bit realize that they are most definitely NOT the right person for them. I have seen this happen more than once. It would also be pretty cruel to the person if the magic worked, then the person who worked the magic ditches them, then they are still lovestruck for years to come . I have noticed with love/lust magic though that there had to be at least *some* interest to begin with for it to work, but still. Also a really important point that people sometimes miss (and judging by your wording above, you may not have thought this part though....) So at one point I could tell someone had put some love magic on me... but no one even slightly flirted with me during that time. I thought it was sort of humorous (before I promptly removed it I mean). I have also heard of people doing that a lot, putting some love/lust magic on someone, but then still not letting the person know they are interested. Just imagine if it worked, the woman you were after totally fell for you, thought about you day and night, wanted nothing more than for you to ask her out... but then you never did!!! Well that and I've not often seen magic work without some physical effort alongside it, job spells are a really good example o this, have to put in the resumes. Then I knew someone else who did magic to meet someone, the perfect wife. It worked, married 20 something years later. But the guy still feels extremely insecure to this day worried she is going to leave him ;(. Obviously if they are married that long it's about a lot more than the magic he did way back when, but he still worries about it all the time. Also, what if the person's true will was to move overseas to meet a certain teacher, so follow their highest spiritual path, or something, but instead you do some love magic, they fall for you, and stay with you in the same town you are both in, forever more, and never get to achieve their life purpose? I know folks who do love magic, and I've done lust magic for people, but in general, it's much less complicated to say put on your best clothes, get your hair redone, and work up the courage to flirt a lot . As an aisde doing the odd glamour can be a lot of fun, to go along with some makeup or whatever . I also experiment with lust colognes for fun. Another thing I tried once... I didn't want to interfere with the person's will/life/whatever, so I worked the magic on me instead to make myself more appealing to them . I think it worked, don't quite remember now. Hmmmm, you are saying romantic love doesn't exist.... but you are talking about having fallen for this particular woman? I think maybe if we had say 20 different words and meanings for "love" it would all work better in conversation. I think the Greeks have 6 different words for it.

Oh don't get me wrong, people's personal preferences are always interesting as well . (I'll clue my lady friends in on the secrets later) another 15 or Bagua.. crap...

I'm bummed, this means the gifting a book thing doesn't work . Perhaps step 2 is read aloud some of said poetry to the lady? I used to use PoF for searching up all the martial artists in my city on there lol. Actually I did date one person for a year I met on there (not a martial artist). I prefer OK cupid though, since they actually match interests. (the people on there just seem more attractive, even physically). Though I'm a slacker, dating is usually last on my to do list. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Nungali, that is awesome that you are looking for those traits in women, AND you get so many dates!! :) This gives hope! Everyone move to Australia... wait, I think all of the australians have actually moved here, we are overrun by them, they like our skiing. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Only doing one post lol... I sort of meant men in general looking for what in particular of women in general? There's got to have been some just as "interesting" studies as the ones they have done on what women look for in men. In every group of women friends I've been in, there is always this one woman that all the guys are falling all over and wish they could date. I can't think of anything similar about them all accept more often than not long straight hair, and always thin. Also sort of shy. Also, this is sort of funny, a higher chance of uhm, having to take medication for various psyche stuff later in life... not kidding (what is up with that?) Oh and I've even heard the odd thing of guys getting intimidated if you look *too* attractive so not approaching them. Hmmmm, the women who have had the most guys wanting to date them were always single most of the time too. The world confuses me. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Conclusion of this thread: Each person, no matter male or female, has unique preferences and attractions .

Hmmm, since we have yet to agree upon what the dantien *is* (see other thread), it might take awhile before we come to a consensus about what we are doing with it .

Different social circles maybe? But anyways, this makes me wonder and ask (I was going to anyways), so what do men look for in women? But to go even deeper, are men naturally drawn to women who treat them badly (you know the reverse of what we were discussing about women being attracted to certain types of men). I do have to admit, I did get flirted with more when I was less nice of a person; was younger too though . Are there studies in this as well? Of course women are all convinced that men look for the standard playboy model type, but this definitely isn't always the case. Btw, please keep the replies to this respectful folks, there *are* women (albeit very few unfortunately) who do read these forums. From personal experience I'd say they like women with dyed blue hair. Seriously, I'd say I get flirted with 10x as much whenever I dye my hair!!! <-- Not the standard selective sample for, well, just about anything lol. Also Sloppy Zhang the problem in the 20's age range is, as a women, you get flirted with many times per day everyday, very obviously (beleive it or not it really does get old very quickly), so you have to be sort of obvious, but at the same time not rude (like some of the others who are, (said rudeness can lead women to ignore most men). Though that was 20 or so years ago, things may have changed a bit since then .

My thread title change was an insult to the methods recommended, not people in this thread. Well OK and perhaps your stereotypical douche that one sees at the bar , but more about the methods recommended. The thread pretty much downgraded for a bit there into how to treat people like crap to get laid/find a partner. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Only doing one post here, can only practice so much Bagua in one day . *This* is one of the actors considered most attractive by many women I have talked to (and I do mean his role in this movie in particular).

So a bunch of buddhist folks have been posting interesting stuff in a couple of threads I've started. Interesting, but really really confusing. Soooooo can anyone explain how you guys do the practical stuff, but in plain basic english with no words in other languages? It's really difficult to keep track when I have to read an entire page about 20 different words in one post.... I know there are english concepts/equivalences to a lot of this stuff... I've at least meditated lots, so likely can understand concepts/experiences, just not all these confusing words. (not I feel like one of those folks who asks me to use less big words ROFL).

Compete? Perhaps I didn't clarify... there is no competing whatsoever, well accept against ourselves of course .

I've been getting a LOT of practice in . After last night's posting spree in one thread, I'll uhm be very busy today.... practicing... but likely not posting lololol. This is good, means I'll catch up on my medical qigong reading whenever I sit in front of my laptop but need a break from working .

It is the ancient secret technique, which is millennia old, known as ... acting. In these particular videos anyways. Anything similar that actually works a bit, from what I've seen, doesn't throw people around like dominos, works differently on each person, doesn't work on all people, is easier on the person's own students for various reasons, and doesn't work at all (or much less) on experienced martial artists.

It did stall the thread for a bit. No worries, seeing *who* posted it, I understood..

Truth. On many levels. Cycle of abuse and such. Once past that, we can find peace .

That's one really fucked up movie.

DB identifying yourself with the description you have given of these sorts of men... might not be the best idea considering .

Awhile back one of the members came up with a math equation for how to tell the quality of a thread... Something about number of pages being inversely proportional...

He's been married 27 (?) years and wooed her with flowers till she went for the first date... Your argument is invalid! LOL

Meh, who cares, I doubt anyone on these forums (or amongst my FB friends where I got the original image) would want the "average" man or woman anyways.... Think about it... what is average: "honey want to watch FOX news tonight?" "2 kids and a white picket fence are my goals in life" "why have you been sitting there doing nothing for half an hour, that is *weird*" "lets go eat at mcdonalds" "I love top 40 radio!" (well OK that would put me off anyways)

From all I've seen, it's mostly about social skills, does the person have them or not. I mean either men or women. I've known some very hot male friends (I was either married at the time, or I wasn't their type lol), who couldn't get dates if their life depended on it . I have also seen guys of all types but with good social skills who get many dates. But really, a very small % of the population looks like the "ideal" man or woman (as media or above tests would portray). Most people look pretty much average. PS were those studies done on people with an iq of over 100? Just sorta curious .

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