BaguaKicksAss

Thank you for that Stosh, very true, and very good points.

Bagua! Well that and if you can find a local teacher, you would progress about 100x as much, IMO. PS, keep up the hose stance no matter what, don't go swapping that out for other stuff, it will bring you further than mos other practices.

That's what the *other* option is for .

Would you be up for explaining what these terms mean? The idiots guide please, I know nothing of these paths. Though it is likely I have heard of or maybe even experienced for a second these things before but either had no name for them or called them something different . Just guessing from the context perhaps they mean "non existence"?

It's as if you get to experience the good and the bad, on many different levels. Though I'd rather know and be aware than not know, even including the trips through skid row and walking past people who have died in horrible ways. At least it is made up for with various other experiences.

Btw, More_Pie_Guy and the moderation team, please, please I'd like MPG in this particular thread to just use regular posting style .

Interesting, in that case then, perhaps I would like to be more consciously aware of it . I have always seen it more as 1000 BKA's living 1000 different existences/possibilities/realities, but with one particular existence/reality being the main focus of each of these BKAs. (perhaps I can swap out with the one whom is better at spelling for a bit until I finish posting here :>) Billions of MPGs! So say I were to go all Dark City (if you haven't seen the movie please do, you'd like it) on one of them, how would that affect things? Or say I were to convince one of these MPGs that their past memories are false? Or say if one of these billions of MPGs gets all curious and starts wandering around and runs into another of these MPGs? How would these sceneries play out do you think? I have had an experience before where someone I know at different times would have different amounts of information about me (we had known each other for about 8 years at the time), but also would have different songs on his hard drive, and different items around the house. I'm still not sure if that was me or him, or both, or? It was very odd, and brought up the entire discussion of multiple BKAs and multiple him's and multiple realities and timelines in the first place. I haven't experienced it with anyone else that I am consciously aware of though. Going off topic, nah, not at all . So as you and I are having a conversation, there are an entire heap of you, and an entire heap of me and swapping out? No wonder modding was so difficult! What about the MPG that is siting down the street at the local coffee shop (nowhere near where you live now I mean)? Or how come ALL the MPGs who post on TTBs have the same work hours? This sounds like a way to liven up my necromancy to me . Or along those lines, the billion MPGs listed above, what if I evoke one of them? How many of them would that affect? Or how about all the people I have loved (wondering with your wording if emotion is relevant here or not?) but that we just lost contact with each other over time. Perhaps some of me's and some of them's are still hanging out :>. And, OK so say I think it would be really nifty to have a conversation with the MPG that's already reached immortality... Due to my various experiences of this lifetime, I already feel like I have lived a few lifetimes in my past 43 years! So how do past lives play into this? Is it sort of like my personal perception lately that I have just lived one long 500 years life, but billions of BKAs doing this, OR, does it split off somehow between lives, or? I mean what do you think at a guess? Not like we know this stuff completely :>. Perhaps I'd like to hop over to the one who's been practicing Bagua for 40 years, than hop back... I honestly can't think of anything in life I would have changed... but just say I had some regret, can one go back and change this up somehow? (the reason I have no regrets is that each action I did, or each thing that happened to me whether good or bad, led to particular teachings and paths I have been fortunate enough to experience). Also, there should be some dead BKAs from about 6 years back, or actually a few times over... wonder how that works. So along these lines, ones which existed in what I view as many years prior to my birth, or perhaps not in my possession in this lifetime, could also be read? I have actually done some previous experimentation with this and old grimoires. It was definitely an interesting experience. And you *know* where I'm going with this... I wonder why I'm choosing this one, instead of the me as priestess at the temple of Horus in Egypt back in the day? So how do you think that works for people who are say schizophrenic? I have volunteered in an asylum, and known a few schizophrenic people, so such questions have come up. According to some teachings and teachers, yes, it is a do positive karma stuff as much of the time as possible. I have found personal reasons why this can be a good practice, it can clear one out and make the energetic flow stuff easier, as well as bring more peace and so forth. I wonder if there is 20% interest like on credit cards? Also I tend to shop 80% off factory sales in the mundane physical sense... wonder if there is some karma equivalent. If there was some way to hack karma I would :>. Not get out of anything, or lesson anything, just for the pure fun of it, to see if it would work. Actually that is my motivation for quite a few things, exploration and to take things apart and see how they work. OK soooooo, how does that work for folks who take the immortality path and actually manage it? Can they not manage it unless all the debts are paid before death (this seems to follow the thinking of some writings), or is it more like your first however many years of it is paying those off, or more like you don't ever pay them off? As I seem to have experienced, karma gets paid off all the time, day to day, in this lifetime (or perhaps that is just that spell I did regarding karma here and now instead of later which I didn't put enough pre-thought into?) How about the folks who follow different religions, or have different beleif systems? Who/what decides about this? Or is it more like it just sticks to us and follows us around? What if one person's karma is transfered to another? (I have heard of such things) Now I'm curious, but will ask you more about this via PM .

Where it all gets really confusing is that past life stuff. And if it wasn't confusing enough already, lately I have been remembering my past lives more and more. In a sense of feeling like I've had one really long 500 years life or something. I take breaks though and allow myself to forget again, it's rather... trying... at times. The folks that calculate and keep track of karma; I'm lucky to remember all of the books I've read .

I like this . Though I have only tried it on major past negative events, yet I guess it can be useful in many other ways as well.

But it does . The realization that hit when Sifu explained this... if I'd known this earlier in life... lol.

Oh lol, I was just joking, but I do see sex as an option. That would be a lot of effort to put in... anyways. Perhaps it is the reward for that 100 days of celibacy? For my top reason, I chose other instead of find myself, because I don't simply wish to find myself, but I also wish to reach my full potential. I feel that once this is reached, all the other things on the list (well OK many of them) just come naturally. I jokingly call them "side affects". Nothing wrong with supernatural abilities in my opinion, I think we were born with them, and should be readily developing and using them, instead of keeping them hidden and ourselves blind.

Cause the guys down at the local Taoist temple are kinda hot... .

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/unmasking-lucien-greaves-aka-doug-mesner-leader-of-the-satanic-temple They are raising funds for this via indiegogo http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/put-a-satanic-monument-at-ok-capitol/x/3532086 And Huffington posts's article on this: http://goo.gl/YZrYYl If they were smart, they'd try to get the backing from various churches/religions which were against the particular form of Christianity that the original statue was from .

Uhm, uhm, uhm, but.... I know I'm looking at it from the outside, but, shouldn't that particular path curb that sort of thing? Or I guess not everyone is adept level on their path...

I'd quite enjoy being able to hop around and explore several . I mean in more than just my visions/astral or whatever. Thoughts as well, hmmm... On a side note, I have noticed that each and everything that I ask or pray for comes to be. I have lots of experience with "be careful what you ask for" too though . I've been seeing the whole burning my hand thing as more purely physical occurrences and nothing above or beyond that. Though sometimes I do feel an energy from the past or going towards the future from such events (but not all, only the important ones maybe?), that feel like it is from something or changing something. Reading webcomics? OK I'm curious then... say I do something "bad" like hit someone for no reason. Does this automatically bring negative karma? Or could it bring about some good karma if it made the person change their life in some way, or they had some negative karma coming? I have heard that emotion behind it is relevant as well. If I had no emotion (being neutral) behind it, or did it out of love, no karma, but if I was in a rage of anger lots of karma. Not so sure if I beleive that or not. Though I'm pretty sure it's more complex than that. Damn butterflies flapping their wings... That would be pretty interesting, so see the ripples and what it brings on all levels . That would, get pretty intense if it were to happen often. Perhaps I will try to be open to this once in awhile and see what happens. Though I'm not so sure I want to calculate all of my actions that much in most situations, but watching like a movie could be interesting. Sounds like temporary heaven gets in the way just as much as temporary hell... Are you saying that I should make sure this week to tell a bunch of people they are ugly or something? I'm obviously just kidding, but does one purposefully make sure to balance it out, do you think? Now with this sort of thinking... if I beleived it to be true (I'm still undecided on this one, but again thinking it's not as linear and simple as all that).... one might go ahead and do a bunch of nasty stuff, then just do a whole bunch of really good deeds to make up for it. (hmmm makes me think of the mafia guys that go and do confession a lot). I think maybe not a regular bank account perse, but an international savings account, with 1000 different currencies, some stocks, some bonds, some employees who steal from accounts, some hackers, some crappy banking here and there... OK so maybe I just like an interesting reality/universe . Have you ever seen a direct or indirect result of your actions and just *known* it was the ripples of karma in action? Pretty interesting stuff. I figured it was a bit larger than reward/punishment . Though I unfortunately see/hear of people acting in this manner, or due to their odd beleifs about it. On a side note, every once in awhile I ask the spirits/universe to help me understand karma. Personally I go by personal experiences or insights and perceptions in meditation, to understand things. So I ask for these experiences to come. My life tends to get interesting when I ask for these insights .

I'm curious, how do you view giving them away for free to the wrong person? I guess fortunately, the teachers I have had thus far have all gotten to know who I really am, gotten past my barriers, and made me do the work, before giving me anything. When I teach the magic stuff to folks, it is up to the spirits who gets what .

I do hope you stick around, as I enjoy your deep and insightful posts . They help balance out.... some of the others. I think though, that each person is expressing their own spiritual path, where they are at the time, and where they can get to. Though I also believe that such things (evolution, spirituality, enlightenment, and such) are not necessarily linear either .

I would look kinda cool tie dyed . They weren't very creative with it as is.... Hopefully they don't get strong winds in that area either.

I have had an odd thing happen too though... not sure if it is the path, the spirits I work with helping me learn, or some odd karma thing, but I have found that some of the folks who I previously felt were disrupting and perhaps even trolling threads, I have become friends with LOL. I find it quite humorous . It has also really helped me to expand my view of people as I get to know each person. Must be all those damn beers we've been having together, heh.

Yes, I have to admit I get embarrassed sometimes at my reaction to things, with the thought of "holy hell it's an internet forum and a post by someone" LOL. At least there's been vast improvement . I've found it's easier, yet more difficult than in person. In person you don't have the option of doing something else for awhile until you are back to neutral, but somehow in person people/things they say, don't annoy me nearly as much. Though perhaps if I were around the same number per day as the number online here, that could change . I guess just PMing someone is similar to, hey lets go have a beer and chat about this...

I've seen anywhere from free to twice that, and all price ranges in between! Part of it depends on how booked up the person is too I think. Though, I have seen amazing quality in all price ranges actually.

Living osuary?

That didn't work Nungali? You deleted it .

No, no, no, no budget version for said front yard! Either styrofoam or paper mache' with waterproof coating, like the movie props. OK so you have to carve a bit, but sooo worth it!