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Very good point . I'll unwork on that... Where I keep the whole connection with Deity present. I actually never correlated the above list necessarily with a meditative state, but they do seem to come along with it sometimes, but also seem to come at other times too as a neat side affect of meditation . The non-meditative experiences are my mind thinking about everything and anything, but not in a focuses contemplate on something in particular sort of way. Also just forgetting my connection and getting caught up with the distractions.

Actually FH, I was just using you as an example, I'd ask anyone. However in your case there is video of you on your website.... good enough for me. Not quite sure what you mean about it being safer when you are hidden.. I'll leave that one be .

Stamp collecting!

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No contradiction, just a need for me to go look them up! I'm good with that though, looking up terms used by folks who have been meditating for centuries... Ah, so like contemplation on one thing.... Good point about it going better with moving about.

Hmmm, some of these should maybe be moved over to Taoist discussion... SoG, while you are at it, if you find any threads on Taoist magic let me know will ya?

We could always start a new thread if you are interested... for discussion more than disagreeing though . However I have this funny feeling it may be more the use of terms that we don't see eye to eye on than anything else, now that I think about it.

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I'd like to add this as an addendum to all my posts about why folks need in person teachers! Thanks for explaining it so well.

I figure for the same reasons the dead create that lower temperature. Well also, some have to get the energy to manifest here somehow, so they take it from the atmosphere, people, etc. There are some awesome ghost hunting supplies which can be made cheaply for testing such things .

That's a toughie, what if we are supposed to learn something more still? Or maybe help some more folks out that we hadn't gotten to this time around? Some say we choose how our life is going to go, so we get out of it what we need to.

Er, was that the goal? Crap. Actually I have no interest in enlightenment whatsoever. I'm sure that sounds odd for this board, but it is just something which has never interested me personally. I practice cultivation for self improvement and connection with the divine, but not for enlightenment. I respect the folks who do though, and have met some very awesome people with this goal. Or perhaps my po just haven't finished partying yet... That is an awesome vid!

I joined with the illusion that most Taoists practice mysticism/magic within the tradition. Darnit, I found out otherwise lol. There are many different paths within the Dao apparently. Maybe it goes something like this (re the OP asking about lack of qigong and etc. threads). Oooh a thread on qigong... hmmm, teacher said not to share that bit, hmmmm, that bit could mess folks up without proper instruction in person to go along with it... hmmmm, that bit is really difficult to put into words.... hmmmm this bit will just get called fake by the skeptics.... well crap, I'll just go argue about politics on that other thread instead.

To do what brings the most joy. In all areas of your life.

The search function works most of the time, but not all the time. It's not that awesome, basically. The google idea is a good one. Also with the board search function the reason Mo Pai doesn't work is because the word "mo" is not 3 letters or longer; the search function requires works which are 2 letters or longer.

Yes some exercises do tax the kidneys, however if they are to that degree, you are doing too many of them or too often. Well or perhaps not quite right. Have you asked your teacher about the kidney taxing of the exercises they gave you? If however you are going by a book, find a teacher... er I mean just do them for less time . Careful with the kidneys, bad things can happen. Think adrenels and so forth. Sha wu shi (forgot the spelling), it comes in liquid, found in chinatown. Also kidney tonification exercises.

If they were setup like PFFs it would be easy to make them public. Yes of course, but we are all more mature than 10 years old here..... or if not they could lose their mod status? Just an idea. Just giving suggestions that would work with the forum software .

The trolls who create disharmony (and sometimes havoc) on the board, yet are smart enough to carefully skirt the rules. Edit to add IMO, the mods and other past mods might see things differently .

I personally find the "report" function to be heavily biased by a popularity contest. That is my personal opinion on the matter. Most board members don't use the report function, only a handful, so it's more about who they like or not (IMO). End rant .

Agrippa's 3 books of Occult Philosophy. It is actually the only book which does not leave stuff out . Just avoid the footnotes, as they are a modern interpretation of the work.

The setup would look similar to PFFs, each person would have to have their own forum for them to actually be able to mod it. Well or we could just make each person who writes an artical a mod of the articles section, having like 20 mods for that section...

Awesome . It would be cool if more people posted their art. Always nice to see the creativity of members.

Hmmmm, I'm curious where a few things would fit in... 1. the seeing and perceiving of various not corporeal entties. 2. Having said entities notice and respond to you (the notice part is easy the respond bit not as much). 3. Healing of others 4. Seeing or knowing the past, present and future (without a divination system). 5. Telepathy 6. 2nd sight (though this might fall under seeing auras). Btw, I'm really curious where you came about the list? I'm assuming you haven't reached #12 yet (though I could be wrong). I've not seen such lists before, kinda neat.

That does sum it up really well . Definitely an nteresting thread. I have worked with dozens of practitioners, and also had many students. I have noticed a few out of order things which happen quite often. I wonder if it is the differences in practices, or perhaps just natural talents we were born with? I have had some students who are at #2 and can pull off some amazing stuff! #4, many people can not see auras at this point, often not until #6. #6, the consciously seeing/feeling energy, some can do it at #2. #8 Can be experienced in deep meditation by people who have definitely not reached #7 or 8 in other ways. Sometimes as early on as #4. #9 can pop up with long-term daily practice, but not always having achieved some of the ones before it. I find those who can't do #7 yet, but who are good at achieving altered states for practice can pull it off . #10 you must mean something different by "astral perception" than I'm thinking? Some folks come in with this naturally (I mean the way I mean it) while others get it at #4. I'm still working on #7, it is a goal, one day. Mine haven't been quite in order either lol. Since his is the hermetic forum, could you please talk about what the rainbow body is in hermetic terminology? I have read about it a few times, but do not quite understand the concept. It's gotten me curious. Not that it is something I'm trying to learn or anything, it is still quite interesting . Something interesting about these states or levels, is that I taught kids metaphysics for awhile (part of a treatment program they were doing, and I was authorized, it was pretty awesome actually) and I have to say... most of them could just naturally with barely trying hit most of these!