BaguaKicksAss

I'm curious now... how do these critters (the ones inside you Songtsan, differ from the Po? I've only started learning about the po very very recently and I still don't get it, at all really... Also from what I understand there is the Po (as in one aspect or whatever) and the Po plural, as in many of them. So confusing... yes I know I'm going a bit off topic, but I'd be interested to hear what folks have to say about comparisons. Also do the po reside within us / are part of us, only?

Yeah, energetic disturbances can open a person right up, to many things, unfortunately. Also though sometimes such energetic disturbances will make a person feel like there are entities around when there are not. Though fixing the energy back up and closing such openings back down would solve either, fortunately. I figure to be able to tell, qigong master or teacher of energetics would guide the person. It's a luck of the draw sort of thing. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Personally I would be wary of any energetic state that some random entity, I did not already work with, and know and trust through past experience, initiated, I would not feel comfortable with. There are far too many out there which are just not healthy for us. Good point on the possibility of similar spirits in the two areas. Do you think there are some in charge of kundalini stuff? Or more like "hey free lunch, woot!" sort of thing? _____________________________________________________________________ I feel they are completely different from the various kundalini affects. I'm curious now, how does your tradition work to get rid of spirits within a person? Usually extraneous spirits within someone is not a good thing, as they can weaken the health and so forth.

I think the real problem with your computer Nungali is that it is infected by jinn... no wait, hobgoblin... eh crap, forgot what those are called. Or perhaps this is more in line with your tech issues? http://www.tomsguide.com/us/evil-spirits-possess-computer-possession,news-8897.html

How does one differentiate Djinn helping out (or perhaps doing the opposite) related to kundalini, and kundalini sickness or qi deviation? Also which Deities do you feel are in charge of the whole kundalini thing?

I personally wouldn't trust a site on the internet about these spirits..... especially one linking them to UFO stuff . Though if you searched you could likely find a teacher in such things... or who teaches about the critters local to you. Actually a competent qigong teacher would rock for helping you get rid of such things... more than anything else IMO.

It's OK CT, Nungali's posting glitches are just contagious is all .

2 completely different regions these two ideas come from; I'm skeptical.

Btw, what makes you think they are Djinn and not some other sorts of spirit/s, or an aspect of yourself?

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I think it's because you have a slow computer and likely haven't upgraded flash or whatever it is this site uses. And have you rebooted lately? This sort of thing happens to me as well when I don't reboot for a month or so...

The idea is to not let them just come in (or ever come in really) and do whatever they want. That is sort of like leaving the front door to hour house wide open, at night. Generally you choose who you want to associate with, when, and under which boundaries.

I cast them .

Haha awesome .

Here is the most commonly known version Btw, did you tell them to fuck off yet? If that doesn't work you can try telling them to fuck off "in the name of _____" (insert fave Deity here). Obviously you don't have to swear, it is more the intent and the fact you are actually telling them to leave/revoking their permission for being around.

What about the folks in say Tibet or India, who don`t know how to read? Though they do get the benefit of a qualified teacher...

Agrippa must have been Obeah in a previous life or something .

Well the local punk rockers are still alive.... but..... well we can say the drug use has worn on them a bit. Well accept that last band on my vid list, they are all doing very well and healthy. This is sort of true (unfortunately) for every music genre though, especially the folks who became famous. I used to work in radio and would go after the various concerts to interview bands. I ended up knowing more than I would ever want to about many of them! Such as their drug habits.

Here`s some (older) punk from my city These first 3 don`t listen if you get easily offended Yes, DOA do actually have their own hockey team lol. (saw a game once) And here`s them live in our local park in Vancouver (do not watch the video unless you live in WA, CO, or Amsterdam) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QZvHN3cpb4 A female punk band . Pretty good for a group of teens. and another

I recommend reading her post skydog, it was actually quite nice and well thought out, it didn`t feel angry to me at all, and wasn`t putting anyone down, just offering a perspective...

It sort of puts the two threads into one thread. I`ll wait until there are a couple of more replies first. Your post from today would be on page 2 of the old thread. It also might help in that people can reply to old comments. I hope you figure out what is up, as well as a solution.

Oh! That video! I`ll just uhm go finish watching my lunch cook .

Would you like me to merge this with your identical thread from September?

Whatever book/system you practice a few hours per day every single day, that one! I`ve even seen people make some pretty awesome progress with some pretty sub par systems...

So are you saying it`s legit, or no?