Wu Ming Jen

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Here lies the problem Never heard of Mo Pei. Pei means school and there are none. Two Americans with basic knowledge really just average beginner stuff start to organize a marketing campaign with wild claims and even include Chang San Feng of Wu Dang mountain as part of their linage specifically level 72 of a made up system. To start with rotten seeds the fruit will be tainted no matter how it is sold or practiced My advise is get out now before any damage has a chance to begin..

Vitality gives birth to my body and has proven to create new life twice. Chi animates my body when my chi is calm and tranquil chi does not deplete my spirit. When my spirit is not being depleted life is good The "spooky" arts are only building on fundamental principles. I will share two training techniques of listening skill one is blindfolded have your partner pass their hand between yours while you are holding the ball and catch it. Second is stand facing a wall and have your partner throw tennis balls at you from behind and do not get hit. Simple right, no magic we all have the ability if it is trained. That's why physical chi ability is so fake few train it. If you happen to be wondering I do not have a skin problem those are just welts from tennis balls so I have no Skill. the welts are proof of chi energy enough for me.

All I know is everytime I enter Tao Bums I am greeted by Brian with a friendly hello. To me this is priceless.

tai chi is so fake.

I actually am a linage holder of Wu-Dang Long Men Pai so this should be interesting. Not sure about what it has to do with Mo Pai never heard of it.

I find it extremely hilarious that a person that took a Tai Chi class once has so much to say about the subject. I personally train on Wudang mountain. Tao being divorced from the endless forms of taoist movement present on the mountain and trained daily would only be a case of a blind man leading the way. or the deluded man deluding themselves and others. There exists a long history of movement and exercise systems which are associated with Taoism. In some sense one can see elements of all of these as contributing to the climate from which Tai Chi emerged. Later in the fifteenth century A.D. the purported founder of Tai Chi Chuan, the monk Chang San-feng, was honoured by the Emperor Ying- tsung with the title of chen-jen, or 'spiritual man who has attained the Tao and is no longer ruled by what he sees, hears or feels.' This indicates that already at this time there was a close association between the philosophy of Taoism and the practice of Tai Chi. In any event the principles of yielding, softness, centeredness, slowness, balance, suppleness and rootedness are all elements of Taoist philosophy that Tai Chi has drawn upon in its understanding of movement, both in relation to health and also in its martial applications. One can see these influences (of softness and effortlessness) in the names of certain movements in the Tai Chi Form. The best part of this thread is that it is so ridiculous it is funny because the comedy is the tragedy.

Your right, the sun could have shifted or he ate something or a butterfly flapped its wings it was anything but tai chi. Your argument is hilarious and is the reason I have something to post rather than read..You may have magical thinking and are trying to prove your own thought that tai chi is bullshit and it is for you and always will be. You demonstrate over and over again that you have no skill in Tai Chi Chuan and have a need to debunk any benefit because you are incapable and lack the discipline. so thats funny, your post are generally funny. Meditate on the seeds of this thread you have started you want the negative attention.

I had a friend that was a hemophiliac He started to go to Tai Chi Classes with me when I was in my early 20's. When he had his check up at the doctors his white blood cells increased and the doctor ask the question of what he was doing differently and he replied Tai Chi. Now here is the key he had no intention to increase his white blood cells it just happened. When we accomplish without striving it is true accomplishment when we are kind without being kind it is true kindness. If one wishes to do tai chi and accomplish something it will not happen because we have created the obstacle before we have even started. The Tao is simply how things work and is many times the opposite of how are minds have been programed. A bird does not wake up and say I am not going to fly today. It is the birds nature to fly. We all have our own nature.One nature is programed but our true nature is one with the Tao it does not oppose the Tao and because of that it is everlasting beyond the dust of this world much more than a temporary body and the start and stops of mind like birth and death . If I did not have a body what problems could I possibly have?

Taoist questions everything. The placebo effect can cure many diseases but that is just fake magic that does not exist. Many people are afraid of death there whole life and when it is on their doorstep it can not come fast enough.. We live in a society, an energetic field of self interest. a cancer cell is a self interested cell with no regard to the surrounding cells. We have basically created cancer .

It is all a lie, it just can't be true, there is no way, you have to be kidding me,I don't believe it, Really,I will believe it when I see it. Wait I have seen it so there is no question, life it not a question.what is the question? was there ever a question? what does a question ask another question? Answers make questions and questions make answers I am just glad they get along so well and are never separated.....true love.

It is a great point! sorry to be redundant, you know beating a dead horse and all.

Someone mentioned tools. Have you seen Tai Chi tool box, there is even magic formless stuff in there. But the problem is a tool is merely an extension of ourselves not the tools themselves that are so great, could even be using a certain tool for the wrong purpose screwing things up.

I forgot to mention that tai chi is fake. When a leaf is suspended in mid air in that very moment it is tai chi. Who can last for more than a moment in this very moment? most times people moments are only a reflection of a fleeting moment in the past. Some who I know never left the moment and change with the endless flow balanced like a leaf suspended in mid air. someday I might last 6 min before a wind comes and blows me away from the moment.

The real question is how many people have cured their cancer. I met a lady tonight who had cancer twice and beat it. It is not the method it is the intent and will of oneself that overcomes adversary in any form.

A martial art which is a physical expression of Taoist principles is call Tai Chi Chuan. A healing art based on taoist principles is called acupuncture. A musician does tai chi, any art form is tai chi, at a rest area on the side of the road when people get out of their car and stretch it is tai chi, when a cat lands on its feet after falling it is tai chi, when your art is not separate from your life it is tai chi. Tai chi is the supreme ultimate pole first named in the I Ching.This uniting principle of the observed universe is the same natural laws of this universe for all living animated and non animated forms of life providing you have a body or some type of form and color. This uniting principle is expressed in medicine, science, martial arts and all forms of expression it does not even matter if one is Taoist or not it is just the way it is. The legendary Chang Sen Feng form Wudang Mountain created a form of martial arts based on taoist principles. If one wishes to prove to themselves the philosophy of the tao and get out of their own mind and their own way prove it to yourself in the physical realm. There are countless forms most do not even know exist

Chinese system does not have one species turning into another but rather the building blocks leading to more and more complex life forms. Humans can be steady as a rock or fierce as a tiger meaning humans inherit all the energies that came first and are the latest addition. Humans may not be the last species to come into being. All things come from no thing beyond conceptualized thinking. We are all related plant, mineral, animal and so on and only exist in relation of what is. this means what you see is also you. Western Science is concerned with earth stuff, what we see and come up with a theory of things that have already happened so it is very limited in scope. Life just is. quantum physics lines up with Taoist knowledge.

40 seconds but I wanted it now! Wait for it...... wait for it........ wait for it............. OK now. Acting too quickly or acting too slow are both errors. So noticing impatiens means knowing the time. This is the time to dissolve betrayal you have been very patient, reconcile the difference in mind and vanish it all to dust, the movement is transformation not in past, not in future. The ultimate true teacher is you. Karma can be transformed, no reason to hit the repeat button, awarness will dissolve any doubt. I wish I had more to offer but it is hard to compete with Tai Chi Cookies so apparently you set the bar kind of high.

Question everything Bruce Lee had an amazing understanding of Taoist principles. He applied them to his art, and lived them in his day-to-day life. He is still revered years after his death for good reason. His authenticity, and mastery of the martial arts, including The Tao of Jeet Kune Do extends into a mastery of self. There is so much to learn from this intrepid soul. Tao allowed Lee to see his opponents as part of the one – and to truly succeed by winning against himself. He often was able to beat much larger opponents not just by his impeccable training, but by his great consciousness, his immaculate mind, but sometimes his small stature and movie-star moves made him easy prey to men who had lesser wisdom. Lee also said, “True observation begins when one sheds set patterns, and true freedom of expression occurs when one is beyond systems. Knowledge is fixed in time, whereas, knowing is continual. Knowledge comes from a source, from accumulation, from a conclusion, while knowing is a movement.” This is quite a decent explanation of the Tao which has no explanation. “Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak do not know.” ~ Lao Tzu, the Tao te Ching Lee lived some of the basic principles of the Tao, which can only be discovered for oneself:

Let's look at Taoist religion The gods are an archetype of successful relationships and the best of humanity making civilization. The gods were actual people who lived exemplary lives. The gods all have jobs. The Gods are not real they are symbolic to show the way. This is much different than western religion. We can't even call Taoism religion by western standards.. Much of taoist religion was fabricated after the introduction of Buddhism that quickly was infused with taoism in China. At the inception of what we call Taoism there is no division between religious or philosophical Taoism. Think of the subject matter, the Tao, it contains all things so we can not look small and break things into sub categories and little pieces, we miss the bigger picture.

Fighting topics are always enjoyable, strange how it leads to fights and conflict. Hard styles train hard to soft TKD at higher levels are taught the soft techniques. Soft styles go soft to hard / Shaolin hard to soft, Wudang soft to hard Basically if one wishes to be a perfected warrior one must be like the blade of my sword soft and hard. We can be soft and hard at the same time.. A fighter and a martial ARTIST are two very different life styles. I personally am invited to TKD tournaments and schools to do seminars,demonstrate and teach the martial roots of Tai Chi Chuan.I enjoy this deeply and my classes are overflowing with masters and students because there is great interest.

My training and introduction to Tai Chi Chuan began learning at a kung fu temple at 17 years old and was very different to learning Tai Chi as most do in America. I was not allowed to learn Tai Chi Chuan until I had Kung fu training and all the very demanding physical routines & conditioning that goes along with it. I suggest That Tai Chi Chuan is Supreme Ultimate Boxing with profound depth that flows into all aspects of life. Trained as a martial art Tai chi contains much much more training than a slow form. On Mount Wudang it would not be wise to say Tai Chi chuan Is not effective for fighting and I did mention before that there many pro fighters that come to learn and try to match skill from a master who began training at 5 years old and trained 8 hours a day for 20 years I guess it just depends on who you know for comparison. Martial Skill is not celebrated that's true, it is a minor aspect compared to the benefits of living in harmony and balance with all things through your art.

The most deceptive martial art "Grasshopper, you have much to learn...the Mexican Martial Arts are by FAR the most deceptive martial art and effective for health, healing and longevity Why has no one has ever heard of this because the art is that deceptive. Judo-nt know if they got a gun, Judo-nt know if they got a knife, Judo-nt know

Brocade leg and flower fist is the term used for those who practice Tai Chi and have no kung fu / skill in fighting. For fighting one must train the martial methods, sparring, free fighting and a lot of conditioning. We have many MMA and black belts that come and train and many are unable to do a simple task like standing front kick extended and only last a few minutes. Many fail with the plum flower post. 900 kicks few can last. There are many MMA when they become professional that do way more training than any weekend warrior. Sport fighting is much different than real life so one can be easily mislead as an observer of fighting skill. School yard fighting in a ring is not something to be respected. Not fighting has great respect. so yes Tai Chi is totally fake and also unbeatable.

It has become a sinological dogma to distinguish between the so-called Taoist school (Daojia), said to have produced the classical mystical texts …, and the so-called Taoist religion (Daojiao), often said to have begun in the Later Han period [i.e., the 1st–2ndcenturies CE]. The successive Daozang [Daoist Canons] never made this distinction. When we look at the way the terms Daojia and Daojiao occur in the texts preserved in the Ming Canon [published in 1445], we see that they are practically synonymous and interchangeable. There could be no better introduction to the present article than the passage quoted above from one of the main Western scholarly works on Daoism (or Taoism), even though it calls into question not only the relevance of this entry, but also the actual existence of its subject. Daoist texts do not speak of “philosophy” or “religion”, two words that do not even exist in the premodern Chinese language. They speak, instead, of what they call the “house”, “family” or “lineage of the Dao” (daojia; also translatable in the plural), and of what they call the “teachings of the Dao” or “teachings on the Dao” (daojiao). Daoists, who obviously have understood these terms in their literal senses, have seen them as defining the same entity: there cannot be “teaching” without “lineage”, and vice versa. Even if the term “religious Daoism” is accepted, it is not clear which entity it should be considered.