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I think that's the path to enlightenment, where thinking submerges back into the all encompassing dream-like semiosphere. A place where opposites lose repulsive polarities and become united in coupled attraction, "going beyond Good and Evil." But after that you have to get out of the slow lane and move on over to authentic alchemical training in order to get real energy so that you might become a real man. Real men astral travel then return back to earth to heal with the energy gathered from their travels, distant temporal zones beyond the realm of people's wildest dreams! -- Nietzsche LOL Nietzsche is so funny -- we are fundamentally inclined to maintain that the falsest opinions (to which the synthetic judgments a priori belong) -- That's Kant's philosophy. He made up the synthetic a priori to save Platonism and then said what he'd "found" had been there all along LOL. -- Nietzsche What's funny is "serious" academic philosophers read the above quotes and have no clue what he's talking about. I watched a lecture on Kant the other day and the guy was saying Kant is the greatest philosopher of all time. I actually remember the timestamp which shows where Kant doesn't understand yoga -- 39:30 -- when he says we can not know an independent reality which is what Kant calls the thing-in-itself. So in philosophy people wonder what the thing-in-itself really could be. eternity or what something really is like a cup! Of course they are the same thing in reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noumenon Heidegger has a book titled "what is a thing?" but I haven't read it. https://www.amazon.com/What-Thing-Martin-Heidegger/dp/B001QDT0A6

Why did you mark it with kundalini tag? Yes, dreams were weird last night. But aren't they always.... I saw tsunami coming in 2004, I saw Chile earthquake, I saw Syrian and Ukranian wars. I saw refuges walking back in 1990s during Kosovo war... No need to watch TV to get a glimpse of human misery across the globe... I saw birth of the British Princess announcement in a dream. Don't know her name and don't follow UK news, but she apparently is an important figure somehow. meow... what's your question again?....

You sound like a sincere and good person to me. You don't have ostentatious desires and if anyone, certainly you deserve a good life, a much better life than what our society has afforded you. I strongly believe that a huge reason you are experiencing this is because of our greed-driven "I got mine, fuck everyone else" culture and society. So about 70% of the responsibility for this goes to the asshole employers and to the asshole bankers and so forth. These guys are leeching off our society in an tremendous way. Wealth disparity is at the highest levels ever in USA, and USA is beginning to resemble a banana republic. Ok, but how does this help you? Well, I believe 30% of the responsibility for your predicament still falls on you. In other words, you're not a complete victim. In some measure you've done this to yourself through ignorance on your part (I wouldn't dare call you lazy, but stupid? Yea, I would call you stupid, in a friendly kind of way). Look at the bright side. You have awakened and you're only 23! Some people realize the same thin you just realized now when they are 50! So you are damn lucky. Count your blessings. First I have to tell you, depending on what/who you think you are, there are two possibilities with regard to death: 1. You will die no matter what. 2. You cannot die no matter what. Both of those are good things if you understand their implications. So if you think you are a definite personality with well-defined, concrete characteristics, you will die. You will die no matter what you do. You can stand on your ears and dance on your finger tips, and you can practice in the mountains for 100 years, every second of your life, and you will die anyway. Why is that? Because it's the nature of concrete well defined things to be born and to die. To appear and to disappear. To come and go. To change. Forever. hmmm Change forever... this seems like a hint, eh? If you think you are awareness and not the objects that appear within awareness, then you will not die, no matter how lazy and stupid you are. You can lay on the couch and eat potato chips for 30 years straight and let your body die from a stroke, and you won't die. You don't need to be some big-shot cultivator. You still cannot die. You can lose consciousness in a ditch somewhere from lack of food and die from starvation and you still do not die anymore than when you die in a dream. What happens when you die in a dream? A new dream starts. That's all. Awareness is not something that appears or disappears because awareness is not an object that you can behold. If you firmly understand these two kinds of identity scenarios, then death is no longer a threat. But still, you are here and you are alive and you want to have fun and joy and peace while you're here. So even if you no longer fear death, your problems are not over. But at least that's one less specter of fear hovering over your shoulder. I recommend the following: Find a roommate or two to reduce apartment costs. As far as food goes, apply for food stamps or eat in a Church somewhere for free. Some people do well by dumpster diving for food. There might be some tips and tricks associated with dumpster diving, so you might want to read up on it in order to avoid getting food poisoning from rotten food, but I guess most of it is common sense. Or fuck it, steal food if you must because the society you live in is highly immoral and in that case, stealing for survival is OK. You heard me right. Consider living with parents, relatives or friends. Someone might be able to put you up if you explain the situation. Try anything and be very open-minded. Let all the doors be open for you and don't think yourself into a mental corner. If someone stole food from me and I was sure this person was poor/hungry I would forgive them unless I myself was dying or my kids were dying. If you are sure the person you're stealing from is not dying or is at least in better shape than you, then since there is no justice in our society, do what you must. If you steal from me, I accept this as part of my own responsibility. I am partly responsible for the society you find yourself in. So if someone steals something from me to survive and not out of greed, this kind of effect I will accept without hesitation and without complaint. Then drop your second job. Cut your work week to something sane. Maybe even less than 40 hours! Maybe you can do OK with just a part-time job. You may qualify for all kinds of financial aid. Food stamps, welfare, unemployment, whatever. There might be aid available from your state, city, religious organizations -- not just federal. Research! Libraries with free computer access exist (if you lose whatever current access you have). Do not feel ashamed! Take advantage of anything and everything. Get your work hours down to 20-40 hours a week. Then start learning. Learn a profession that's well paid and in demand. It doesn't have to be fancy or exciting if cultivation is your number one goal. Just learn something people need done and are willing to pay good money for. Sometimes people desire unethical things -- do not learn and do those. For example, do not become a stock broker. That's an unethical job, even though you can become rich that way. Your job might not be saintly, but at the very least, try to avoid jobs that hurt society in obvious ways, because part of the reason you are in your situation is because many many other people took those bad unethical jobs for $$$ and it is because of that you now suffer. So don't inflict this suffering which you now do not enjoy on others. When you choose a profession, be very open-minded. For example, have you considered glass blowing? That's a strange profession isn't it? I bet you don't think about it every day, right? Well there are hundreds of these strange professions out there and some of them are pretty decent and interesting. You might be able to become self-employed by selling some items on the street or opening a hot-dog stand or something like that. There are other routes to self-employment. If you can be self-employed, it might be better for you. Alternatively, save up money and take a survivalist course. Learn how to survive in a forest with nothing more than a knife or just your bare hands and clothes on your back. Leave society and go live in the forest. You might be squatting on "someone's" land, but who gives a fuck. Land ownership the way we practice it in the West (where a single person can own huge swaths of land without any kind of social responsibility) is mostly immoral, so just avoid the owners the best you can, but mostly, if you just go deep enough, no one will come looking for you. It's like you won't even exist to the rest of society. This way you can spend all your time cultivating. You'll need to spend some time hunting and gathering, but ancient hungers gathers only spent 20 hours on this! The rest was leisure. It's only when farming appeared that people started slaving and the society began to get stratified into classes (high class vs low class, owner vs serf, etc.). Many sages have gone exactly this route. As a survivalist you don't have to be totally cut off. You can have a friend visit you a few times a year or you might visit a city and take some temp jobs to get items you need before leaving for a long time again, etc. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Also, if you find friends to do this with, it may become easier as long as your friends are committed. And know that you are not alone. If you find other like-minded people, together you can really do something great, something that's better than just fixing your personal situation. Because long-term we have to fix our culture.

there can be no identity...with the subjective mindstream,, nor with the all pervasive Dharmakaya, because 'identity' is a thought construct, if you are using Yogachara Mind-Only view, then you can see that everything is Mind, but how can there be an I attached onto Mind? there is nothing there to label. even 'self' is Mind, and 'I' is Mind. but Mind is empty and no labels or attachments can be put onto Mind. how can there be different universes? you are really going too deeply into this self concept, like subjective Godheads. since mindstreams are interdependent they lack self-nature. how can separate 'universes' exist if they depend on others for their survival? what you are doing is collapsing reality onto the Subject and really attaching to that Subject, afraid to let it go. but you have to negate that subject and see its interdependency with objects, see stage 3 - http://www.zenforuminternational.org/viewt...p?f=12&t=48 non-dual presence is completely non-conceptual and is free of both the concepts of subjec and object. so the Mind is like one grand being that dreams reality and chooses to experience itself through the human medium? might as well replace Mind with Brahman and you'd be a Hindu Guru It's all one Grand Dream, just dream characters in the one dream of the Godhead. The Buddhists tear this view up simply by pointing out that you're projecting your ego onto reality, instead of a small dreamer there is now a Grand Dreamer. this is Anthropomorphizing at its finest

Hi Everyone, From Goodreads: Swami Vivekananda “Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life; dream of it; think of it; live on that idea. Let the brain, the body, muscles, nerves, every part of your body be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success, and this is the way great spiritual giants are produced.” “You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but your own soul.” “In a conflict between the heart and the brain, follow your heart. ” “In a day, when you don't come across any problems - you can be sure that you are travelling in a wrong path” “The great secret of true success, of true happiness, is this: the man or woman who asks for no return, the perfectly unselfish person, is the most successful.” “All power is within you; you can do anything and everything. Believe in that, do not believe that you are weak; do not believe that you are half-crazy lunatics, as most of us do nowadays. You can do anything and everything, without even the guidance of anyone. Stand up and express the divinity within you.” - LimA

First off sree - Grandma was a lady not to be messed with! She may visit you and give you a little smack ! Nan was a strict Catholic in her life on this planet, and no one risked her wrath! When she visited me she filled my bedroom up with a beautiful golden light! Back to 1983!!! First off, I have been an abductee from the age of 5. Although it is a slow process of recovering my memories, in time I'll piece the story of my abductions together; patience is the key. My conscious interest in alien life and UFO's began when I was 11 or 12. I saw my first UFO at this time, and ruled out the usual suspects because of the hap hazard way this UFO was moving! No plane or helicopter could have done these twists and turns! We lived near an airport so I was well versed in flying machines in 1972! So a little background flavor there!!! In 1983. I was in bed and had awoken to visit the bathroom, before I got up a figure began to materialize right in front of me - like a Star Trek scene. Little specks of light began forming from the base upwards until it revealed a 6 or 7 foot figure. Sadly this is all I remember, I am working on trying to retrieve more; but what I do know is whoever is responsible for these abductions they can manipulate time! They also have the ability to give me what I call 'screen dreams' to cover up what is happening, and I know when this is happening - 'they' don't like this! What they have done to remedy my ability to suss them out is to block out my dreams when I am being abducted - so I am trying to figure a way around this. Through research I have read about MILABS, Military Abductions(Military Industrial Complex working with, say the greys), who I believe are responsible for my current abductions. I have military connection, and my Dad and brother also did. Again through research I discovered the screen dream phenomena, and spooked 'them' out in mid screen dream by telling 'them' I knew what they were up to! I wake up with strange markings on my body, one such occasion was when I had what appeared to be the outline of some kind of light bulb on my back! Now unless I levitated to the bedroom light during the night how on earth can that be explained? Other markings include bruises and needle marks - often in triangular shapes. Last year my wife and I saw a huge UFO with flashing lights just vanish right before our eyes! We have also seen 3 UFO's within 45 minutes. I have a photo of a UFO(frisby shaped) taken in October 2011 at around 4pm, when I took the photo I was not aware of the UFO! My reason for the photograph was chemtrails! I'll try and post the photo up if possible. Namaste, gentlewind

Curiosity killed the cat, Satisfaction brought her back. Good night, LimA; dream true. (-:

This is a very complex theme. First of all it always depends on the perspective you are talking from. I wish someone would comment on it with such a precise, simple and clear way that gave no margin for assumptions or interpretations. From my own understanding and experience, when you wake up in the morning, the world appears. When you go to sleep at night, the world dissappears. Therefore, the world has no reality on its own apart from you. If it is not self shining and self existing, depending always upon your awareness for it to exist, then it is 100% like a dream. We say dreams are unreal and illusory. So the world must also be considered unreal and illusory based on this assumption.

Namaste Friends.... I thought that the below discussion warranted a new topic instead of threadjacking SB's Ego Inflation topic, so I have moved the related posts over here into a new thread. Here is the first post, written by Kate. (hopefully you don't mind me doing this Kate....if you do, I will have no problem editting this thread out....let me know) Love, Carson Originally posted by Kate in the Ego Inflation thread: Hum. What I am thinking right now is that "ego" is only the content that you decide it's going to be (structurally they are all the same;-)) So you could have a very small one (sorry to anyone to whom the double-entendre is offensive;-)) or you could have a really BIG one - encompassing - oh, I dunno - everything in all of its richness and connectedness- but that would mean you'd have to act accordingly And that is a lot of ff-ing work Apologies for the allusion;-) I love discussions when we start off thinking we're all talking about the same thing, but it has so many perspectives and then we get further on and we might ask ourselves if we are all talking about oranges and if they are from Sienna or not;-) I dunno SB - I think only you can tell your level of Secret Narcissism. If you are interested in Narcissus, read his myth. Or at worst, read Joseph Campbell or Thomas Moore. The question I would ask is why do you require confirmation of anything at all? What I'm wondering about here onTTB quite often is that that we seem to be using a sort of normative (albeit on a scale of what might be considered completely nuts to others;-)) approach to experiences that may or may not have a reference point until some time has passed and enough others have identified (I don't say "had" and we can look at that some other time) the experience to consider it "normal". I know that maps exist and yet they were made for (sometimes) very different cultures, different models, different epochs. Originally posted by CarsonZi in the Ego Inflation thread: Hi Kate and thank you for the really great post.....I hope you don't mind if I jump in where Mr. MarbleHead would not..... Hum indeed! I "think" you are right, but I am still unsure in my heart. I had written a post saying that the ego can be in unconscious aspects of your mind, but in the process of doing so, I realized that I don't actually fully agree with that....this is a great statement that is causing some really deep inquiry here.....thank you. "ego is only the content that you decide it's going to be" Some questions to inquire into: 1.) Can there *be* unconscious mind-content? 2.) Can you honestly be aware of mind-content and decide it *isn't* ego? 3.) Can the ego exist *without* mind-content? I don't know that I have answers to these questions.....I have written and re-written this post about 3 times now, and I still don't know, so I am going to drop these questions into Silence (samyama style) and see what comes up....or doesn't Thank you again for the Inquiry-inducing post Kate! Love, Carson Originally posted by Marblehead in the Ego Inflation thread: Hi Carson, Nice post. Interesting point you brought up. Yes, I think it is a given that ego is a component of our conscious mind. But what about our unconscious mind? The only good representations of our unconscious mind, I think, can be found in our dreams. I think that ego can be seen in many of our dreams. If we are the pivot of the dream then I think that the ego is expressing itself. However, in dreams where we are on the outside viewing ourself in that dream I think that the viewing is being done with an egoless mind. And in line with this thought, when we are in deep meditation I think that once we have become mindless (that is, egoless) we are open to realizations beyond the limits and controls of the ego. These are all new thoughts for me so I am fully open for alternate views. Peace & Love! Originally posted by CarsonZi in the Ego Inflation thread: Hi MarbleHead.... I guess you could ask yourself these two questions: 1.) Are all mind-concepts ego? 2.) Is the unconscious mind ego-less? It is my understanding that once you get to a certain point of Realization that you stop dreaming (but are instead "awake" while sleeping. I believe the state is called "Turiya". And I am also under the understanding that if you were truly "ego-less" you could not exist as a human being on Earth so-to-speak.....that there could be no physical form if you were truly ego-less. So, if both these two concepts were true that would mean that one could not live in Turiya while in human form...which is not the case. This means that (theoretically) you can relieve the awareness of the ego during dreaming, but not completely during any 3 Dimensional existence. Again this is all theoretically and completely speculative, as I do not have personal experience with living from Turiya all day (I have had glimpses during Deep Meditation, but they have never been lasting). I think that as long as we are still have dreams there is ego/conditioning still involved on some level. An "ego-less mind" will not dream in my opinion. Again, purely speculation....or perhaps an "educated guess" Absolutely. Thanks for the conversation. Love, Carson Originally posted by Kate: While Jung is stuck in his stone tower, I'd like to jump back in because I've been really MORE interested in the stuff Carson's referring to that anything else this past while. Carson, you said: 1.) Can there *be* unconscious mind-content? I'm so very not sure about this one. Certainly we habitually accept that there is and that it is even a driving force in us (one of many, now including "genes") Are we still "right" about this? What would it mean for us if we were wrong? This isn't meant to be anything other than an idea. I think what there might be is "habituation" (the "conditioning" that is often referred to by some Buddhists) which just doesn't require consciousness to function. So it's not a driving force unless it's set in motion, just an efficiency. I think there is a point at which it becomes painful BUT this point is reached only when this ability results in a response that isn't actually adapted to the situation at hand. The less than desirable result is then re-fed back into the whole thing. So we might also be looking at a system that is in constant reality-checking mode while also using its very efficient pattern-recognition process. I know I'm using sort of geeky-tech words, but I don't have others that I know to use to tell you what I'm after. 2.) Can you honestly be aware of mind-content and decide it *isn't* ego? Yes I think you can. If you're reading a novel for example and conjuring up the scenes in your mind, you know it isn't "you" - I think the "you" has to have a certain (something;-)) about it to be acceptable to you as a "you". What that might be is?? 3.) Can the ego exist *without* mind-content? I think that it would depend on 1) and 2) Thanks for the interesting discussion!

I believe this is a very good question because I believe your answer to it affects your morals and how you live your life, as well as the quality of life for you and people around you as well. Precisely. It's not an argument because it has no thesis. You're not really arguing for or against anything. You're just restating the Zeno's paradox. However, if I may, I will speak to what I believe is your concern here. Zeno's paradox shows that when you try to find some substance in a boundary, you cannot. However, when we step back and refrain from analysis, nothing is more obvious than the apparently distinct phenomena. For me this is a demonstration how something can be real and yet be insubstantial at the same time. So substantiality is not a necessary precondition for apparent reality. This shows how it's very easy and possible to live your whole life in a dream and not ever know even once that all that time it was no more and no less than a dream. And when I say this, I don't use the word "dream" in a pejorative sense. Dreams are what we make of them.

What linear language is is you doing actually work. You read something so long till it clicks you "get satisfied" what actually also happens is you need food, the desire to eat rises manifold. What happens is you are doing work, the weight will match belly energies, what are craving. So eventually it will burn away and it will leave you with insatiable feeling wandering around from page to page looking for what will work and it aren't there. The secret how to get pass these difficult points are to know how to die and open these senses where you are not you anymore but a container of dream energies and you will just use your own creation to mold these energies or form them. What is death, death is absence of motion. *direct or command (someone) with a movement of the hand or head.(google translator)

But you don't remember being born either. The only evidence you have of being born is indirect. You have to take other people's word for it. Don't you think that's a little suspicious? I've heard of such cases. This is absurd. How could such proof ever be presented? If pre-birth experiences are real, they are like dreams. How would you give evidence of a dream before birth? There is no way! Even those we consider alive cannot give solid proof of their dreams. We just take their word for it. You can measure brainwaves, but there is no way to definitively associate brainwaves with dreams. That's one. Second, amnesia is a well documented fact. People with amnesia do not remember anything. This doesn't mean nothing happened to them within the space of time that amnesiacs fail to remember. Third, not everyone remembers their dreams. This doesn't mean dreams do not occur. These are pretty basic and well accepted facts. No it doesn't. If there is a dream-like state after death, how would you prove it? You cannot. The dead person is no longer a part of your dream but that doesn't mean their own perspective is gone. Let me illustrate it this way. When someone goes to sleep, then in your view, this person becomes a motionless body. But from the dreamer's view, they are in a different world that looks as real as this world here with possibly other people there. Whose view is the right one? Outside of bias, there is no way to say. Yes there is a logical reason to believe such a thing. I told you many reasons. You're just not as logical as you think. You can prove the reality of before-birth and after-death awareness through simple logic. Start with the boundary analysis and take it from there.

Whoever ancestors helped last night, thanks! Woke up from a dream with a native american women and some kind of altar of sorts. I woke up understanding that others energy can be 'cursed' due to past lives, pacts, and karma. Things they have done to themselves due to stupidity, stubbornness, and greed. If one engages in any kind of ritual or transference of energy, one can tarnish their energy field with the karma of others. There are individuals, satanist, witches, who understand this energy phenomenon and chose to desecrate others due to their own indignation and lack of maturity. A dirty trick basically, where one comes with a dump truck full of 'spiritual garbage' and dumps it on one's front lawn. This energy can look like static energy or 'chaos' energy as well. The whole intention is to provoke anger, hatred, etc in the victim (this can also be viewed as a satanist/dark initiation if the victim is seeking a ticket to hell) . Essentially becoming infected with the aggressors very own problems. The energy will usually look black and clouded and absent of light, concerning the aggressor. Which is why purity is KEY concerning proper cultivation or light. In the Kabbalah, these individuals would be known as the dark brothers. Basically a life long power trip, until some one of equal caliber can set such a person in their place. These people are known as the goat keepers apparently. Needless to say, that was an interesting dream. I was basically told that I learned a very hard lesson and that I should not have native american curses in my blood/energy and they were taken and that these people's ancestors will be taken care of the rest of the problem. I literally felt the sensation of 'pride' being taken from my heart chakra. Interesting and this picture comes to mind.. Which brings up a great point. If one is ever to engage in any kind of energy work or magick with others, GO WITH YOUR GUT! It never seems to fail!

A dreamer, or maybe just a dream.

Thanks for the mention, dwai. Trust that I say without sarcasm, it's good to see things come together as we futiley attempt to pinpoint the unpinnable! I once wrote, "while 'oneness' may be the quintessence of Advaita, Reality lies beyond oneness and any other perceptual state." All the pointers hang upon the existence of some false "knower-of" identity, but Self is the unidentifiable ground of knowledge. The closest one ever gets to depicting this negation of all, is ascribing attributes which are essentially superimpositions. Oh how the mind despises this perceived boring not-a-thing-ness. People will say to you, "tell me more about the emptiness." With incessant craving for order, the mind is continuously drawn out in an effort to catalog its perceptions, but concepts of order and chaos must be dropped. The dream of experience, surrendered. The mischievous mind says, "I experienced", thereby creating an illusory space in which one I supposedly experiences another I. There is no experience of the Self. In looking towards it, you look away from it. In looking for it, you miss your Self. There exists no intellectual reference for that which lies beyond the intellect. Where all perceptions and concepts are discarded, there and there alone, Self alone, is.

I've read this an find it somewhat apropos passage from the Chuang-tzu, viz. the Great Sage Dream anecdote:

I highly agree! I experience many dreams as well, but I have yet to help feed others it seems. I have only helped people cross over to other realms so they are not stuck here. What happens is a door opens with all white energy that I can see in my minds eye and you can see the outline of the ghost/person crossing over. You no longer feel this person's presence around you anymore as well. I have yet to look into cultivating with mantra's, but I agree with the dharma and may have to look into this because it seems the dharma is a great answer to help those who may be stuck on the path or are suffering from bad karma or choices that stem from witch craft and dark arts. Some thing needs to be done with the bad karma. Right? I once had a dream with a monk as well. Bald head. Huge smile. Dark red robe. Seemed Buddhist. Basically I went out of body in the dream and I watched him float over my body as he meditated over me. The next day I woke up with a force field around my head. It was serene and the thought of utter nothingness is what came to mind. I remember being at work, literally zoned out to... NOTHING. I was in utter bliss for no reason. After while though, the people around me brought me back down to hell and frustration ensued. It was a great experience though. I only saw this monk one last time in my dreams. Needless to say, there are some who are going a tremendous work on the other side to help those in need!

Hi Edward M. Your question reminds me of something I encountered recently that really surprised me. My wife, does not visualize... at all, like ever. It stunned me as one of the things I've sought in my practice is a break from the constant visualizations that can be very distracting. She sees nothing in dreams, she feels them. She has a very clear inner sense of how a place is in dreams, but unlike me, who sees a particular room and the color of the flowers and the furniture, she feels the room, has a sense of the room she is in, but does not see anything. She feels it. She experiences the room without visualizing it. When you dream about a place. Do you see it in detail? Or is it more of a sense, or feel of a place...

Holy crap I had the weirdest night last night. Ok so after class and my roommate I was tired the whole rest of the night but at the same time mentally wired so that I could not go to sleep till about 1am. Then I finally go to sleep but have one of the weirdest dreams ever. So in this dream I'm now roommates with this one woman in my school who recently broke up with her bf. So to make a long story short she tries to seduce me but I don't find her all that attractive so I don't really want to, so she leaves the room to go look for a condom I think. At this time that scene from "Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia" pops into my mind about Denis' new German roommate talking about what a mistake it is to sleep with a roommate cause she always nagged him afterwards. So I think (this is still a dream lol) I need to distract myself so I see this random doughnut hole on the floor and eat it and it tastes so so good. Then she returns and right before she starts to get busy I wake up (which is what I always do with these sorts of dreams). When I wake up its morning and I'm really tired, not refreshed at all. So now I'm pondering my dilemma again about how to go to school, be in class, talk to my roommate and friends and not get so drained from it all. So all the things people had been saying on here and other musings all ran through my head and I began to wondering if it might be beneficial to increase my ratio of standing exercises to sitting meditation a bit more. I remember Drew saying or quoting Chunyi Lin about how it was good to have something like a 3-1 ratio of standing dynamic forms to sitting meditation to build up jing, if I understood correctly. Well now I'm wondering (this is just theory to me as I have not tried it yet) if since being around people makes my body tired if doing more standing exercises for my body would help with that problem?

hmm, in a dream i think its the only way for me to manifest something. If i know what i want to have then it never happen. So if i have in my mind a idea then someone has to make it happen to me. And if i use the other variant then i switch the reality where i have it already. So i either go there where i have the thing i want. And the other variant is someone has to bring it to me.

This forum is a dead end, I am not sure why I even post here anymore. It's flooded with spiritual 4chaners, and just plain stupid new age douchebags in general. Bruce's system deals primarily with energetic development, clearing out blockages, nourishing every part of the energetic body, strengthening it, this is the part I thought would be most valuable to TTB, not achieving an OBE, even though that too can be invaluable in a spiritual quest for knowledge. Edgar Cayce and Einstein both made extensive use of this state of consciousness to access higher knowledge. Einstein used a technique where he would drift into a very deep trance and stay mentally focused on a problem, he would enter a lucid dream/ obe state and dream up the answers to his problems. He could engage every sense, in this dream like state, if he went too deep and fell completely asleep he would drop the handful of rocks he was holding to wake himself up and write down his answers. I believe there is valuable knowledge to be gained from the depths of the unconscious mind much more than Einstein, Cayce, Tesla were able to tap into. I've tested Robert's system, I know it works and works well as an energetic development system. I also know that if you can use the OBE state as a tool for acquiring knowledge like Einstein, it can be a powerful resource. Do you know of any good texts for a western reader about developing the yang shen embryo?

those dreams have never been about sex except once which i mistook for a premonition when i met the girl from the dream in real life :\ Otherwise, they've been the classic falling dream, and i've had them while awake as well, where my entire body feels like it just suddely hit something solid after falling for a long distance... SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME whenever it does happen and i spend about 5 minutes trying to figure out which life just died and which consciousness just emerged For that matter there's a gas station in salem across from a mcdonalds that has "blown up" at least 6 times on me, and my entire omniversal consciousness had to shift realities. Same one- that's what creeps me out. First time it happened was very vivid, some guy with a very terrible karmic aura drove past and the death in his eyes creeped me out badly. he drove past the gas station, but i was also vividly aware of "his" expression of vengeful intent and mass destruction. I experienced multiple times, that gas station exploding and killing "me" and others. In such a nonchalant manner mostly, except that part where i suddenly SLAM into my body...

What is primary is acoustic space where entities and meaning flow into one another like the fabric of dream. Linear time -- past/present/future breaks down, contained space breaks down, subject-object distinctions break down etc. Cover your eyes and listen... there are no discrete things (no static tables, chairs, people etc), all you hear is merged motion. Now put you fingers in your ears and what do you see? Fixed static space with things contained within. Static objects whose meaning can be known in isolation like a dictionary -- table, chairs, books, humans etc. So in an oral world the ear does the seeing in some respect. But when we take the multi-sensual world of oral culture and fix it in space inside meaningless abstract signs that relate to nothing in nature -- THESE SIGNS -- then when we read and retranslate the signs back into something meaningful we bias the eye over and above the other senses. That visual bias is the problem of Western metaphysics i.e PLATO. That's the simple version. Go and watch Ebert's Heidegger videos on Being and Time. Present-at-hand is visual with direct access to meaning and readiness-at-hand is acoustic where meaning structures merge into the background of the world.

Really I spent a few years working out what was going on prior to Plato's metaphysics. In the Western tradition Heidegger's late philosophy tries to "destruct" Western metaphysics after he see there are different ontological epochs with two prior to Plato -- logos and phusis. And Marshall McLuhan pretty much nails it with his medium is the message i.e. Plato is working out the effects of the phonetic alphabet with fixed vowels ,<== that is what you have to unwind. See the book The Alphabet Effect by Logan. A good understanding of post-modern philosophy is helpful too -- Derrida rather than "destruct" to the earlier oral culture of Western culture "deconstructs" "logocentric" metaphysics from this side rather than thinking back to an earlier period. And D&G work out the environment of Derrida's deconstructed metaphysics. So post-moderism is actually a good basis for starting out qigong because it brushes aside all the cliched ideas which held Western thinking in place since Plato. It therefore provides a good, but empty i.e. no real energy, framework from which to begin. Kind of like Jung and James Hillman or Watts perhaps. Right so the problem here is post-modern philosophy is really difficult and Heidegger is off-the-charts difficult. But I think the thing is to just exercise your brain with the very strange pomo world-views to give yourself a chance. There were several times over the years when thinking about these things I felt like I'd been hit over the head with a baseball bat so that all my pre-conceived notions about the nature of reality, space and time etc shifted over to a new paradigm. Also I did some dream analysis too. Thinking about the grammar and logic of dreams and trying to bring that kind of awareness to waking reality. Really consciousness IS NOT in out heads at all. That way of thinking about the world is abstracted away from the true nature of things. I got loads of my stuff from a friend on reddit whose similar to drew whom I won't name because he doesn't like attention plus also from John David Ebert and fake Bob Dobbs. The common link there is they're both James Joyce scholars. https://www.youtube.com/user/johndavidebert/videos (watch the Derida, Heidegger and Deleuze videos) http://dobbstown.com/ https://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/bob-dobbs-dew-line.html

lol its ok you don't have to agree with me. Though as far as your observation that Kidney def. can lead to lower back pain that is correct. As far as the comment about someone getting drunk and killing someone, I don't really understand what that is in reference to? As far as the minister-fire of the heart, it still relates to the kidney. Technically there are two heart fires, the emperor fire of the heart itself and the minister (or prime minister fire) of the pericardium. Now the base of the minister fire is ming-men which has its base and origin in the Kidney, specifically the Kidney yang. So ideally yin and yang are supposed to balance each other, but if you have Kidney yin def. then proportionately you will have an excess of yang, often called deficiency fire as its not a true excess, but a proportional excess. Anyways this excess yang then stokes the ming-men fire of the Kidney which then rises to stoke the minister fire of the pericardium which surrounds the heart. This is the whole five element cycle of control. Ideally the Kidney water controls the Heart fire. If you don't have enough Kidney water (yin) your heart fire will blaze up. As the heart houses the shen (spirit) it is responsible for our dreams. So if one is having sexual dreams which lead to emission then on the surface this can be attributed to the heart fire (branch), but on a deeper level this is really the result of there not being enough kidney water to keep the heart fire in balance (root). Hope that makes sense. Btw strictly from a personal experience perspective I don't understand nocturnal emission from the dream point of view, because if I ever have a sexual dream I get too excited and wake up before any release happens (typically I've been disappointed it worked out that way haha)