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My dreams are of all different kinds, and sometimes it fits the interpretations of dream analysis and its symbolizms, basically expressing what is reality for me. And sometimes just things whose origin I can identify easily as from waking life before. But also what idiot_stimpy said: Sometimes when I push something away and don't properly process it, it can occur in my dreams. Sometimes I perform admirably in a dream, like an adventure or fear-related task, but it doesn't have any noticeable effect on my waking life, except sometimes the mentioned emotional residue.

I have found that when I repress/deny something it can make its way into a dream.

I read somewhere that dreams are the mind's way of fine tuning experiences from the waking world, to increase efficiency, especially nightmares. They reasoned that we face our fears in our dreams to either get us used to a situation or improve our response to it. For example many people, including myself, have had dreams about being attacked/chased by wolves on snowy terrain. The researcher linked dreams like this to experiences that our ancestors have passed down from a time where humans had to confront wolves and protect themselves against such. The dream presents the problem and allows us to improve our response in that situation. Or so the study said. Maybe your dream was supposed to have an impact on you that will improve something in your life.

I have been following this forum and practicing FP for some time ( a few years). Just got volume 7 a few weeks ago. Really like the forms and the energy. I don't get the "sleeper" result from the 50 20 10 one though. In fact, quite the opposite. I dream (lucid dreams) a lot. I may be sleeping, but staying aware while sleeping is something I wasn't prepared for . It reminds me of the results of one of the meditation techniques in Evan Wentz's Tibetan Practices book. ridingtheox is an inspiration btw. Much thanks to Terry Dunn and everyone who has provided their experiences over the life of this forum. Really cleared up some things for me.

But your "waking" life, is also a dream . What do you do to change your mood, energy and focus when someone off-centers you during the day? You can do the same sorts of things...

I notice that when I wake up after a dream, remembering it, that dream influences my spirit for the day. If I had an unpleasant dream (like dreaming about daily chores and such - horrifingly dull!) the whole day feels like crap, while when I had a pleasant dream, it can have as powerful an effect on my spirit as if it actually happened. My theory is that it's because there isn't enough happening in my waking life to dilute those effects, combined with being relatively sensitive.

you won't meet a teacher in your dream unless you want to; there must be that connection; my teachers are happy with my report of my experience

I don't know if you are very deluded or you are joking. People who've completed the four visions can perform all manner of miracles and teach others. If you visit me in my dream tonight i will believe you.😊

Sorry Indeed, without wanting something or attempting to achieve anything at all, one would sit around doing nothing until one starved to death. And most people don't want that. But I think it all depends on how big one dreams to achieve..? If all I desire to accomplish in a day is eating an apple, and there's an apple on the tree outside, and I eat it, then I've had a good day. I've accomplished what I wanted. Seems simple. But if there had been no apples, I'd have been disappointed, and might've spent the whole day looking for an apple only to find that my neighbour had some really delicious oranges that he was happy to share. So, firstly, why not just eat what's there? Why fight for apples? And secondly, why dream for anything much bigger than that? One can be quite happy eating apples and oranges, until one decides that it's a better accomplishment to eat elephants and sharks. Most people in the world wouldn't consider eating an apple an "accomplishment" in the strict sense. To be considered a real accomplishment, it must be something impressive, like publishing a book or starring in a movie. But how do you know if the book is the apple or the orange? For sure. I do feel satisfaction on completing a beautiful painting, for example, but... it does depend on one's personal definition/idea of accomplishment. So many people wouldn't consider that an accomplishment. People are so obsessed with accomplishing "great" things, with making "accomplishment" their accomplishment, that I feel they've missed the point entirely. Why should helping someone be considered an accomplishment? If people forgot about trying to accomplish "great" things, there would be far less need to help people. In my opinion. What is something of "value" ? What is "amounting to nothing" ? Not accomplishing anything? Or not helping anyone? What if I'm born on a far away island in a village with just a few hundred people, and spend my whole life fishing and swimming and bringing up my kids? I never affect a great change in the world... have I "amounted to nothing", or have I just lived a fairly contented life?

I see that two ways ; I 'myself' am an evoked spirit .... happily living those three things within Ungud's Dream. My 'spirit friends' seem happy ... I even made them a nice house and make offerings. Their 'work' has 'lifted them up' now they seem happier (less 'disruptive') with their tasks as they 'evolve'. The same goes for my feral pets. .... they just got to find a way to get on better with each other. [ Here the 'binding' - being 'feral pets' they are ' voluntary bindings' - now currawong will just come and sit beside me when he doesnt even want food ... we just hang out ... and he still does his 'job' fine. ... I have never been one to 'curse and bind by the names of God' ... I tried it a few times and the ones that I find do need that, I prefer not to work with. For my 'kin' ... and the 'spirits' and myself I prefer 'persuasion' and the idea that we are ' in the same boat together' ( oh .... I just remembered ... I saw that 'Life of Pi' movie for the first time last night ) As far as connecting all that to 'Superiors' in a local shamanic sense ... probably beyond the scope and time period of this thread.

Actually,...the perceived universe is much older,...but because sentient beings do see things as they are,...the future is unknown for the universe to be accurately understood. That is to say,...time is One,...evolution occurs as it does because the future already is. It is like a movie or dream, where a story leads to a conclusion. Without the conclusion, the so-called beginning would not know where to begin. One movie or one universal reality,...nearly the same thing. I am here now, because I must be, for Oneness to be One. Time is One. Not a past leading to a future,...that's not One. Sure,...without evolution, there would be no Marblehead,...and yet, without the reverse flow of forward moving things, there would be no Marblehead. Because of that,...ultimately,...Marblehead really has no free choice,...because the future of Marblehead already is. Time is one thing.

Edward, The subconscious mind is your sixth chakra (and third eye) which controls your five lower chakras… so when you “release dense energy blockages” in the lower chakras, you feel it in your subconscious mind… But to purify the subconscious mind, you must destroy the delusion in your subconscious mind…because it is the delusion in your subconscious mind, that is causing the dense energy blockages… If you raise the kundalini , it will temporarily purify your chakas and open your third eye, and it will temporarily push your delusion aside but not destroy it… your delusion will still control your subconscious mind, and will create the same chakra blockages as before… ………………………………………………………………………….. The only way to permanently purify the subconscious mind (6th chakra) is to destroy the delusion that controls the subconscious mind… and only the conscious mind (7th chakra) can do that by systematically turning the delusion into neutral awareness… First by learning to control the conscious mind, and turning off the voice of the subconscious mind…. Then by investigating, understanding, and letting go of anger and greed… and we never get angry again… (and righteous indignation is anger too) Then by reaching equanimity, and accepting other people and their beliefs just the way they are… their business is their business, and our business is our business… and we never have another argument Then by realizing that we are a “spirit (subconscious mind) with a body”, not a “body with a spirit”, and realizing that our “body” and “personality” (conscious mind) are not “us”, they are temporary just for this life… that our spirit (subconscious mind) is the eternal ‘us”… Then we hold our conscious mind in a state of “neutral awareness” (the middle path) until our subconscious mind accepts it as reality… and when we least expect it, delusion suddenly shatters amid loud rumbling noises, and flashing lights… and we feel as if we have just awakened from a long hypnotic dream… and the delusion now seems so obvious, that we wonder how it could have fooled us…We have purified our subconscious mind (sixth chakra) permanently and destroyed delusion, so there is no longer a voice of delusion… so now our conscious mind (seventh chakra) is blissfully empty, and all we can hear is silence…the sound of one hand clapping… Dawg

Walker, your posts are a treasure. People world never dream of walking into a pharmacy and picking their own antibiotics. How much more difficult is it to choose medicine from such a foreign system?

Before I start in... Spotless I have a sudden feeling of what I think is love for you. I am smiling, after reading what you have said. I think, if memory serves, I have always found you, more than anyone else, challenging. You are the bed of coals one must walk on, or the bed of nails one must lay on. Thank you for that! @all I have read the rest of your responses and I thank you. Now I have something to share with you. I am not sure I have mentioned it here previously, but recently, just a few months ago, when working with my dreams I found I could hear a voice inside. I have tested this voice, consulting it to translate a dream for another. I have an account at DreamViews for the subject of dreaming. They told me it was spot on. So as far as I am concerned this voice is not me. If it were to emanate from anywhere, have a location, it would be in the center of my chest. I sort of focus there to "tune in." Now I bring this up because my first response,whenever I have a problem, is to come here with it. Spiritually based matters primarily. It never occurred to me to consult this voice until last night. I struggled with resistance all day doing it, but I came to this voice with a number of questions, and I will share some of these, and its answers. When I am doing this sort of thing brackets [] symbolize stuff coming from me, parentheses () stuff that come from it which I did not feel the need to write down or simply decided to add later. A lot of forward slashes / to combine things. Hyphens - as a pause, break in thought or for emphases. Here: Why am I unable to manifest the things I need or want? You do not have faith. I keep telling you to have faith. Be faith. But you won't listen/are unable to hear. You must have faith in order for these things to be provided. You must know that you are receiving whatever it is you ask for. There can be no doubt, doubt = resistance. If there is doubt, throw it out! You must have faith, must believe, must know, that whatever you ask for is provided. But you are covered in fear, and doubt. You base this on your previous lack of manifesting an asked for thing. But they are built on one another. Those attempts did not work either because you did not have faith. When you received the coffee beans you had enough faith. Find a way to have faith, carry that faith with you. Like Indiana Jones stepping into the chasm, having faith there is a walkway there. You must have faith! Things will be much easier for you once you do. (That is all.) How do I manifest the things I need or want? By faith. It really is as simple as that. The universe will give you whatever it is you ask for, whatever you need or want. But you have to believe the universe can and will do this. You must have faith. You must live it, breathe it like air. Your whole being must be infused with it. There can be no room for fear and doubt. Your being must radiate faith, a confidence and a knowing that the universe can, does and will provide. This is the one great and universal Truth. You have been seeking the Truth for so long, well here it is! Faith, like everything else, must be practiced. It is a combination of confidence, trust and knowing. It is the thought that the universe provides returned to for so long that it becomes a belief. Once you believe the universe provides, and hold that feeling for a long time, it becomes/transforms into faith. Once you have held onto this feeling of faith for a long time, doubt and fear simply can not manifest in your experience. There is no room in which these things can grow. The tree you so often use as your example has faith. It is not a faith as understood by humans. Faith is independent of intellect. The tree's faith is a feeling, of the sun, wind and rain on its skin – its bark and leaves. It is the feel of dirt between its toes – its roots. When a tree feels these things it demonstrates faith. It grows, puts out branches and leaves. When a tree feels the lack of any of these vital elements it looses faith, and so dies. Faith is a feeling, one that must be maintained, for life and a connection to All Good Things. Without faith demonstrating in your life you will, like the tree, begin to shrivel up and die on the inside, the most vital part of you. Not in your physical body, not initially. Your physical body will follow suite however, it too will shrivel and die, because whatever happens to you on the inside – energetically – manifests on the outside. The lack of faith inside becomes the cause of the physical symptoms of death on the outside. You must have faith, it is vital! Absolutely necessary in order for you to thrive as an individual and as a person, even as a society. What is it you are having faith in? What is it you are developing faith in? What is it you are practicing faith in? Quite simply, that the universe provides. You can call the universe whatever name you like. Whatever name you give it, it always provides. Your faith in the provision opens you to that provision. It allows you to receive whatever it is you ask for. Without faith your receiving will be blocked or interfered with. Your manifestation will be incomplete, if its manifests at all. Only tree's faith in the sun, in the wind and the rain, allow it to open, send out branches, send down roots, sprout leaves and thereby grow. The instant tree is not living in faith it begins to die, period, end of story. How else do you think cactus survives in the desert? What other creature on earth has more faith than a cactus, that water, eventually, will come? So the cactus holds on, and it gets the water it needs. This is the kind of faith you must display, even in the harshest of circumstances, if you want to receive whatever it is you are asking for. (That is all - there is nothing more to say on this subject.)

A person who has no subjective experience/cosciousness cannot be subject to anything, he can only be an object in another's consciousnes experience. When you say that something is there, you say that you are having an experience of something, therefore if other people did not have an experience of that pod-person then they didn't. When we talk of objective reality, we are thinking and not experiencing reality. There is no such thing as objective reality, only consciousness which is neither objective nor subjective. But you make a good point about the fact that a real object can get you hurt while a hallucination cannot. For example you hurt your nose while bumping in the tree, just as I flew on mars in a dream last night. I didn't flew, it was just experience. Many patterns happened. It is like a fractal system, most likely. I don't have all the answers, a Taoist master would have known. Also, as a side note, neither chairs nor rocks are beings.

That's a good piece of advice,...but one that is likely misunderstood. People generally like their head,...it's what they like best about themselves. For most (99.9%),...happy is as the DiCaprio character in the film Inception,...where, at the end, he disregards the spinning top, and just wants to go to his kids, whether it's a dream or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdV9E9Xcb10

Hi Dawg, I decided to try your suggestion for meditation as my regular practice for a while. I have been doing 2 sessions per day, 1 hour for each session. For the first four days, after about 5 minutes in each session, a kind of wave occured and in the background, behind the focus on the sound of Buddho, I could see visions and what appeared to be dreams occuring. Actually, I recognize them as dreams because if I grasp at any one of them, I find myself in a lucid dream.. And it is typical to feel that "wave" take place which usually anounces that REM is about to occur. For the last couple of days the dreams/visions no longer occur. Instead, I'm seeing abstract patterns of lights in the background, beautiful colors and patterns. Nothing like I've ever seen before. I suspect that by maintaining focus on the breath and the mantra it is stirring up winds. I think that performing a mantra (even silently) is kicking in the throat chakra, which then creates the dreams and visions (these types of visions). I do admit, it is easier to maintain consistent focus on the objects of awareness (the breath and the Buddho) when they are combined because each new breath brings a new batch of thoughts, but if you are focusing on the sound of the mantra, the new batch of thoughts comes in and then goes out because you are not grasping at them. So, in a way, you are precipitating the natural dissolution and release of thoughts and visions too (when not focused on them). This is sort of like Dzogchen's remaining in the natural state. Is the point of this Buddho practice to purify the subconscious? What is the next stage past the abstract light patterns that I am seeing? Will they gradually slow down and fade away when I achieve shamatha? Will I need to drop the mantra at some point? Thanks..

I think death would be like sleep. You just find yourself in another dream.

The mind as you speak of it is a mind bound to externals, to objects, to particulars. Unbind the mind. Concern yourself with what is truly yours: that light, that bliss, that vibration of pure existence. The only thing I aim to manifest anymore is total illumination. I do this by expecting it, aligning myself with that expectation (meaning, I KNOW it's coming), and I receive it. I do not worry when it will come or how or whether I will be a guru or have any power or influence. I simply vibrate that highest state and receive it spontaneously. I also forget and I dream and I worry like anyone else. This is also important, Dream: I never have more than I need. The Universe is not wasteful like that. It does not allocate millions of dollars to me, or thousands of apples, or new cars, because all of those are wasteful. I have what I need and nothing more. The exchange is always going on. Some of what is expounded in the teachings I have read plays on a major character flaw of the ego: greed. Some of the best animes I've ever seen use sex appeal to draw an audience in. Commercials do the same. That doesn't mean the product is not valuable, it means it's being marketed at you effectively. It's good because it has drawn you to a truth of our world. It's bad because you think you need things you don't. The deeper your meditation, the deeper your detachment, the higher your wisdom, and the greater your knowledge about the charade of control and oppression in this world, the more you can laugh whole heartedly at all apparent opposition to you. When I receive bills in the mail, I laugh, I feel blissful... because I see where the money is going, how I was apparently "indebted" during my time of sleep, and I see what it's funding (war, etc.), and I do nothing about it. All is taken care of ultimately - your case will be totally different than mine, but the source is the same if you trust it. I experience myself floating in outer space, manifested as outer space, experiencing outer space, through a peephole in outerspace, and nothing "stressful" that happens in consciousness is even remotely important - or rather, it doesn't merit worry. Such is my faith. All is well.

Iain, If you do Sandhya at dawn and dusk, it puts your mind in a good spiritual place for the day, and a good spiritual place for evening and night… it will help you to make good karma most of the time… the feeling it gives you is like a tiny taste of the heavenly realms… When you die you will go to a heavenly realm, but still have samsara… All the people in the heavenly realms still have samsara… even the gods in the god realm have samsara, they were born and will die, and have made good and bad karma, and will reincarnate… only a few realms at the very top called the happy abodes contains people who will not reincarnate, but will experience awakening in that abode, and reach nirvana there… None of the gods own or control the spirit world… our subconscious mind which is our spirit is the part of us that goes to the spirit world… it sends us to a place full of people like ourselves, who will treat us like we treated other people when we were alive… that is why it is said that, “we will reap what we have sown… In the spirit world you speak to others by using telepathy… everyone can hear your thoughts, and understand exactly what you mean… it is perfect communication… and it is impossible to lie... if two or three of us spoke different languages, each of us would hear the other two in our own language… if I used telepathy to speak to a group of people who speak different languages in the physical world… all of them would hear me in their own language… I would be doing what is called “speaking in tongues”… The heavens are amazing, and not at all like anything I imagined… everything is solid like in the physical world… I have seen snow covered mountains… 17th century sailing ships sailing on a sparkling sea… day and night… I have driven around in a car through what looked like the leafy surburbs of Los Angeles… there are building of every period and date… castles built in the clouds… buildings that change shape and color as you walk through them… buildings that look small on the outside, but on the inside there is a maze of wide corridors with doors on both sides, and each door opens into a couple of rooms that opens out into a different world… I have even seen the Elysian Fields, the high heaven of the ancient Greeks full of people who lived more than two thousand years ago… the happy hunting ground of the American Indians, and the dream time of the Australian aborigines, and every other heaven is somewhere in the spirit world… the spirit world is vast and it contains many things that are not obvious… The heavens were created by the people who have lived in them… you can create things with your thoughts, so you sometimes see strange things… You can travel about in three ways… you can walk, you can fly, or you can instantly jump to any destination… I won’t describe a hell realm, or demon realm, or ghost realm, because from your words, I assume you will go to a heavenly realm when you die, then when you have used up your good karma, you will spend a short time in a mild hell realm to get rid of bad karma, then have a good birth… Dawg

Gerard, I laughed when I read your posts… because trolls like you are so transparent… It is obvious that all your spiritual knowledge is from books, and none or very little of it is from personal experience… you know the theory but not the reality… unless your knowledge is first hand from personal experience, it is just more delusion… you don’t understand Taoism or Buddhism, you just cherry pick this and that and take it out of context, and throw around words that you don’t understand, and have never experienced… if you wish to reach final awakening, you are on the wrong path… if you wish to reach awakening, you must systematically destroy the delusion that now controls your subconscious mind, which controls your conscious mind… that is the one and only way to reach awakening… (and raising the Kundalini will not do it, I have been there and done that… I know)… because it took the destruction of my delusion to reach permanent awakening… I destroyed my delusion and reached awakening in August 2011… and it really is like awakening from a long dream that you thought was real… I now Iive permanently in bliss, it was worth all the effort it took to reach it… it is forever… You cannot imagine how much your words reveal about yourself… you are unable to focus your concentration, which is necessary for a successful spiritual practice… you have low self esteem, and don’t like yourself… you are a troll on the internet in an effort to build up your self esteem… your greatest fear is the fear of death, you don’t understand that you can’t die… you are so deluded that you don’t even realize that you are deluded… you don’t even know what delusion is… and you lie to others, and to yourself, and unless you are honest with yourself you are in deep shit… The key to restoring your self esteem is to accept yourself and love yourself (compassionate love) just the way you are… and know that you are no better or worse than anyone else… and realize that if you can’t love yourself, you can’t love others… and if you can’t love others, they can’t love you… And get rid of the big ego… it blocks your spiritual development… and makes you sound like a fool… Also get rid of your negativity, it poisons your mind… and again blocks your spiritual development… Don’t worry about me, I have reached permanent nirvana… but you should be worrying about yourself… and doing something about it… Have a nice day…! Dawg

I'm curious as to how many are currently including entheogen use in their practices, supplementing/balancing with herbs/tinctures, or experimenting with more conventional chemicals. I was supplementing with adaptogens for about four months during a period of spiritual and physical fatigue - Ashwaghanda tincture, Rhodiola Rosea tea, Eleuthero tea, Schizandra capsules, and a daily mug of really strong Yerba Mate. Taking these together kept my energy levels stable while I went through some deep physical exhaustion and spiritual forgetting. I took several Chinese herbs and tinctures between then and now (at the recommendation of practitioners) for different conditions, to no avail. Fast-forward six months... I have a powerful fascination with brain chemistry (particularly neurotransmitters right now) and have been supplementing with CDP-Choline, a precursor to Acetylcholine, Thiamine (Vitamin B-1) for GABA levels, and Passionflower extract for Serotonin levels. The effects, and the chemistry of it are both beautiful. I express myself more easily, cry when tears need to be shed, feel joy when joy is needed, dream more deeply, think more holistically, and easily overcome mundane worries with laughter, creativity, and happiness. No current entheogen use - I suspect I have some serious work to do before those will come into my life again (I've strayed a bit this past year and a half). What, if anything, are you supplementing your life/practice with?

OK,....sure,...the moment a person transcends ego, she is the Whole,...instead of the figure of speech "part of the Whole." There is nothing, IMO, contradictory about a benevolent dictator,...as an interim surrogate while the majority of humanity are realizing the falsity of their humanness. Of course, individualists would challenge the necessity of such a surrogate,...like most would want to slay Bodhisattva's if they realized what the Bodhisattva Vow implied. The full quote of that Canadian,...from Alberta Provence: "Waking up is not necessarily pleasant; you get to see why all this time, you chose to sleep. When you wake up the first thing you will see is Reality does not exist for you, you exist for it. Shocking as it is when you let it in, there is rest. You do not have to labor anymore to hold together a reality that does not exist; forcing something to be real that is not real. You and this life you have been living are not real ... In letting it in, even through the shock... pain... shattering, there is rest. Reality is when all you want to know is what is true ...just so that you can let it in and be true. Reality is not a safe place for you - the you that you have created. It is the only place where you would die; where there is no room for your hopes, your dreams. Once you have let it in, once you begin to re-awaken; to let Reality wake you up, nothing can get it out. That is the beginning of your end. Waking up can be much more painful than the agony of your dream, but waking up is real."

<p>it isn't that there is no-self/ no doing ... I don't believe... it is just that the awareness is so... that only the action seems apparent.<br /> <br /> And who is experiencing "no self" to say that it is no self... to me this is ridiculous and is either severely lacking in reasoning capacity or is an intentionally deceptive teaching to dis-empower.<br /> <br /> Sometimes when I paint ... you could say I am not there... but I am there at another level without clouds of thoughts or thinking I am.. in that moment I am creating ... I am still present<br /> <br /> Some call this being "in the zone" "in the flow" etc ?<br /> <br /> So we are pure awareness, but we put limitations on our pure awareness to the degree that it is unable to express itself most fully.<br /> <br /> Like a raging river that something has put a dam against and now only a trickle of water escapes... and people think they are that trickle of water completely identifying with that ... when the damn breaks and they experience themselves as the raging river... they have no foundation/ position to see this as themselves.../ overwhelmed by the experience... making illogical statement such as "no self" and going back to the beginning... or less.<br /> <br /> Having access to these levels of consciousness and doing nothing with it. While their country is in abject poverty.<br /> <br /> Even if reality is a dream... why not make it a beautiful dream?<br /> <br /> Then you have someone like Nikola Tesla who is perhaps what a real sage is.<br /> <br /> Uniting Heaven and Earth and attempting to create technologies that would free the world.<br /> <br /> Much more creative... compared to sitting in rags telling people they don't exist (to me this appears to be some demonic (anti-life(creativity) mind**** game) opposite of creativity...<br /> <br /> embracing self annihilation, teaching self annihilation and around them creating deserts.. as something "spiritual" ... for me this is the very opposite of spiritual.<br /> <br /> Spirituality I would define as creativity ... gaining access to such states is to allow greater creativity to flow and to create wonderful worlds.<br /> <br /> When did spirituality get mixed up with nihilism? <br /> </p>

:Title change to expand potentials: In Buddhist discussion I was reading how it is hard to get a cat to meditate - humans have a better chance of reaching "liberation" I'd say it is equally hard to get a human to meditate Are humans really superior to animals? in intelligence/ spiritual capacity I recall a very lucid dream in which I was having a very deep conversation with a cat, the cat was the teacher and showed me something very cool. I do not recall that conversation... just the feeling of it and what was shown/visual I felt the conversation was very important... this Cat is perhaps one of my greatest teachers... who can say... haha When I look into the eyes of a cat they bring me into a meditative like state...