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I thought I do an update on my reading. So far, reading the Working Towards Enlightenment first, the first 50 pages. It is very understandable. He is basically saying that one has to walk the path in order to derive the wisdom and knowledge of the scriptures. Just memorizing and knowing the scriptures won't lead to enlightenment. Then, he went on to talk about the skandha of forms. If you close your eyes and meditating and not seeing lights at all, you are still trapped in the skandha of forms. Then, he went on talking about the skandha of conception which is like the dream and reality are the same but you don't know why they are so.

It took two to tangle. It won't help anybody if we bring blame into this. His wife of course is aware of Nikolai's emotional struggle. Her response was to attempt to keep herself look young to be more attractive to Nikolai. Did she really believe she's got a chance up against a 20 years old in the physical department? What's her way of showing her concern for the union. She's threw a tantrum over a bow of tortillas. The ironic thing was that she's in the profession of anylize other people's mind. I just want to bring those thing up to make Nikolai know that we're not here to blame or judge. We're here to help out of the universal goodness of our heart. They just acted out of their old thinking pattern in the new age terms. Or they were sleep walking. Or it's the result of their karma. They are totally innocent in a way or totally responsible if looking from another view. Nikolai is a smart guy. He's awaken by thinking with his normal brain. I've just recently awaken or gone crazy. I'm still confused and disoriented myself. I don't know how the new world operates. I'll just tell him my own story in short. The long version may take me a few month to write. A few years ago, my marriage was in trouble. We fought constantly in front of our kids. I wasn't happy at all. Then I met a girl of my dreams. I left my wife and kids. My wife threatened the girl at her business. The girl didn't want nothing to do with me. I was heart broken and broke down. I was let go of my jobs. I relied on weeds to survive the ordeal. I found another job in US. I started my new life. I found another girl that I loved dearly. We moved in together and bought a dream house. Then the similar thing happened between her and me. Some fights between her and me was exactly the duplicate of the fight I had with my ex-wife. I was desperate. I cheated on her. To make it short. I had a Kundalini awakening after two month of meditation. I wasn't ready at all. I realized that I loved that girl so much that I'd kill myself for her. Then why I had hurt her so much in the worst way? My girl friend found out my infidelity, she left me. I was devastated. I had another K episode. Here I am back to canada, almost a year later, I'm still try to forgive myself, patch up my relationship with my ex wife, be a better father to my kids, struggle with my job and hope my ex-girl friend come back into my life (please don't bust my bubble on this one). A new country, new job and new girl didn't change my fortune because I didn't change myself inside. Keep doing the same thing and expect different result is insanity. I can't run away from myself. Nikolai, you have to walk the path yourself. Whatever you decide, I support you. Would you please be true to yourself and be honest with yourself? If you make a mistake, it's OK. we're always given a second chance.

ummm Master nan, Huai-chin says how there are different levels of emptiness and different levels of consciousness. So emptiness though is the same -- always already immortal -- but our conscious awareness of emptiness is at different levels. So most people are not consciously aware while in the deep sleep state. But the very first breath on waking up there is a moment of consciousness awareness of our theta dream REM state. Most people are not consciously aware of the space between our thoughts yet with a little bit of self-enquiry a person can empty out their thoughts for a moment of awareness of Emptiness. So the Emptiness is full of energy -- as Ramana Maharshi states -- when the mind as the source of the I-thought achieves Emptiness there is bright light -- but in actuality the bright light is the conscious awareness of the Emptiness -- so the bright light is actually the spirit shen energy but in its most pure form. So Emptiness is always-already there and a person can momentarily go into a state of conscious awareness of Emptiness -- but it is very difficult to stabilize in a state of conscious awareness of Emptiness. For example -- qigong master Jim Nance said back around 2005 that he had achieved the Emptiness only a few times. He was referring to what is normally called nirvikalpa samadhi or Immortal Breathing in Taoism. His third eye was not fully open yet so he had not stabilized into the Emptiness yet as the 8th level of consciousness. When he did stabilize then he was declared a qigong master. So in that case the qi energy goes up while the spirit energy goes down and the small universe cycles like that -- the conceptual thoughts and physical breathing are very minimal and there is also astral travel -- holographically. If there is a spacetime vortex as dizziness this means the spirit is leaving the body without having enough chi stored up inside. So that is what happened to me and already I had strong chi but I did not know what had caused the spacetime vortex. It was in the very book I had been studying but I had not been able to really scrutinize the text to find the answer -- not until ten years later did I discover it. I would say immortal emptiness is always already there - it is the truth of reality but we are only consciously aware of immortal emptiness when we transform the whole physical body into the spirit energy but storing the spirit energy inside the chi energy and then focusing the spirit energy on the Emptiness inside the physical body. I think at that point anything is possible but nothing happens at all -- it is the ultimate sacrifice of power because the greatest power comes from the greatest Emptiness. So for example Mahayana Buddhism as per the book Measuring Meditation (Bodri and Master Nan) criticizes Ramana Maharshi and Poonjaji as only emptying out the 7th level of consciousness and then letting their bodies waste away. So Ramana Maharshi and Poonjai both created "yang spirits" or bilocation of other physical bodies -- but we know that Poonjaji was not consciously aware that he had created another physical body - or as he did multiple physical bodies at the same time. So he had not stabilized in that power since he had not been consciously aware of it. O.K. another good example is in the biography of the most famous monk of Thailand -- Phra Achran Mun. O.K. so one of the monks is levitating but when he realizes he is levitating then he falls back to the ground. So he has to train himself to be consciously aware that he is levitating while still remaining harmonized in the Emptiness that enables that power. This is what the Buddhists mean by Wisdom - it is the trance concentration of the right brain -- as the Bushmen state - God watches the person being healed while the healer trances the person being healed. So God is the Emptiness while the trance is the laser light energy that is coherent energy and therefore harmonized back into the Emptiness at the same time the energy is manifesting. Yeah so left brain conceptual thought disharmonizes the energy but if right brain focus can be maintained as one-pointed thought or concentration -- this empties out the left brain. For example when Jim Nance is healing someone of cancer he tells the person to repeat in their mind as fast as they can: "light light light light" and then to visualize laser light shooting into the tumor. So basically the immortal Emptiness is what is called "nirvikalpa samadhi" but otherwise samadhi is a one-thought concentration as a trance state. So as Ramana Maharshi states most energy masters maintain their spiritual ego because they don't continue practicing nirvikalpa samadhi - they don't keep emptying out their thoughts - and so the spiritual masters get attached to their powers and then they just circulate around the astral realms, etc. So in Supreme Complete Enlightenment the nirvikalpa samadhi has to be applied not just to the mind as the 7th level of consciousness but also to the body consciousness -- and so this is the jing energy as alchemy. Once the body is emptied out then the bilocation powers are stabilized and so there is no longer an ego attachment to the bilocation powers. For example in Measuring Meditation Bodri and Nan claim that the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" is not true enlightenment because there is still mind attachment to the bilocation "yang spirit" powers. I'm not sure why they think that is the case - but it could be there is still attachment to the realm of form in that the spirit energy has to be contained inside the chi energy which is inside the jing energy in the lower tan tien. Master Nan, Huai-chin seemed to think that focusing on the lower tan tien was too limiting since sometimes the energy needed to move elsewhere and that also a Taoist master would get the "chi belly" if they had not really achieved the Emptiness as Nirvikalpa Samadhi - if they had not fully opened up their third eye. So anyway at that level of practice it's not surprising that there would be disagreements. For example one of the top masters of the YOgananda lineage needed to have young females massage him so he could take in their jing energy to replenish his energy -- as Michael Winn details. Or another example is that Bodri and Nan say that eating meat is important to build up the jing energy if there is going to be transformation of the physical body -- I'm just mentioning stuff without all the precise details. But another example is that at death the spirit energy could accidentally leave out of the backside bottom if a person still needs to have a bowel movement which happens automatically at death. So that it would be easy to go to hell if a person is not fasting before death and also they don't have enough chi energy to power their spirit out of their upper body. Like at the end of the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" the person sits on a wooden bun or butt plug basically to prevent loss of energy from that hole. In contrast Ramana Maharshi and Poonjaji just say to let the body decay as that it just contains past dead karma and only formless awareness is truly eternal. So immortal emptiness is necessary for everything all the time - but being consciously aware of immortal emptiness is considered a realm of static bright golden light. Yet that is the realm of form whereas under Mahayana Buddhism a person still needs to empty out the realm of desire because if the body becomes physically sick then the mind will sink into oblivion at death and there will be no conscious awareness of the Emptiness at death. So the Buddhist Supreme Complete Enlightenment is definitely an ideal that few if any have achieved but still it's always good to overshoot the goal just to be safe. haha. Yeah so I think an example of conscious awareness in trance without left brain conceptual thought would be like juggling. B/c when a person juggles they usually kind of stare ahead in one direction and then just keep a wide focus while their arms are moving. So this is a very light trance as conscious awareness but if the person starts to conceptually think about each ball that is being juggled then they fall out of conscious awareness by getting attached to the energy causing an imbalance or disharmony and the juggling collapses. haha. Riding a bicycle would be another example since it involves both forward and sideways movement and in fact it's how Einstein described spacetime and inertia -- anyway you could see how martial arts and tai chi are related to trance awareness and Emptiness.

Clear light can refer to about three different things. 1. The inseperable clarity and emptiness of the mind, called kun gzhi, Buddha Nature etc. in Mahamudra. "Emptiness" in this specific context means you cannot point to clarity with your finger. You cannot find clarity, nor get rid of clarity. 2. The usual meaning of clear light is when the winds (vayus) are slowed down to a significant extent. Winds and mind are the same thing, so if the winds move subtlety that is considered "subtle mind". Clear light of sleep occurs naturally every night when the winds reconfigure. In dream yoga, you enter the clear light of sleep, and from there you enter a lucid dream. Basically the same thing as wake initiated lucid dreaming, although its combined with transmission of course. Natural death is similar.

http://undumbara.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/buddhaguptanatha-and-the-late-survival-of-the-siddha-tradition-in-india-d-templeman/ Buddhaguptanatha and the Late Survival of the Siddha Tradition in India by David Templeman The late survival of the siddha tradition in India might come as a surprise to some. It is commonly believed that Buddhism was totally eradicated by the end of the 12th century and that nothing of its religious traditions survived in the Indian sub-continent. However, there is an increasing body of evidence to show that this was not the case. In certain areas, Buddhism survived, in fact, at least into the 17th century. This article focuses on the life of one such ‘survivor,’ Buddhaguptanatha, a siddha-yogi who wandered widely and eventually taught Taranatha, Tibet’s greatest historian. In terms of his wanderings Buddhaguptanatha was remarkable. He travelled on foot to Iran, Balkh in the north of Afghanistan, Kashgar in Central Asia, Multan, Kabul, Khorasan, Badakshan, Qusht and the lands of the Mughals. He travelled by boat to south-east Asia, particularly Indonesia, parts of Burma and possibly Thailand. It is even believed that he reached Madagascar off the coast of east Africa. In terms of late Indian siddhas such as Buddhaguptanatha, there is very little extant literature or surviving knowledge. The text that I am basing this article on is by the Tibetan historian Taranatha (1575-?), who wrote one of the few existing biographies of such people. Buddhaguptanatha earned more renown as a siddha than anyone else in his era, precisely because of his relationship with Taranatha. He transmitted the dense details about Buddhist history and recent tantric developments that enrich so much of Taranatha’s texts. Buddhaguptanatha demands our attention for several reasons. His observations are vital in the work of reconstructing the late Buddhist geography of India and its neighbor. It is equally valuable for the data it gives on the types of Buddhist practice that flourished in parts of the Indian world to the late 16th and early 17th centuries. The genre into which this work fits is known as hagiography. Hagiography is a kind of spiritual biography that celebrates the inner journey of the guru. Throughout his other written texts, which dealt with India, yogic practices, other siddhas’ lives, Taranatha always says, ‘My guru told me… my guru said this… my guru’s view is at variance with the previous teacher.’ Taranatha is often at odds with Buton Rinpoche, the 14th century scholar of Tibet who is referred to by the title kun khyen (kun-mkhyen) or ‘omniscient.’ Taranatha frequently dismisses Buton’s views with the phrase, ‘my teacher said differently and I believe him.’ Clearly Buddhaguptanatha is a seminal figure in the reconstruction of late Indian Buddhism and his influence on the course of Tibetan understanding of it is unique. He could equally well have been noted as a geographer. Taranatha’s work could have been categorised as one of the wonderful Tibetan works that springs up very late as ‘geographical curiosities’ or ‘curiosities of the outer world.’ By this stage – the early 17th century – Tibetans were beginning to return to India for the first time since the great cultural transmigration of 8th to 9th and then 12th to 13th centuries. When the Tibetans did start returning to India, they were absolutely astounded by what they saw, and recorded their impressions in a kind of ‘literature of wonder and amazement.’ Unlike other writers who travelled to British India, such as Jigme Lingpa who actually describes quite accurately the secular world and its wonders – such as a barrel organ or a twenty-five gun sailing vessel moored in Calcutta – Buddhaguptanatha is impressed at only the Buddhist things in India. He records them with amazement and gives us very Buddhistic descriptions of what he saw. In his description of Mt Potalaka, for example, Buddhaguptanatha describes in which part of India it is located and which river you might go up to get there. He then drops all pretense to facts and becomes poetically vague: And when I was there it was amazing, as if I were in a dream. I saw streams flowing from the top of Mt Potalaka and I saw Manjushri seated amidst clouds on the very peak… Therefore, while we might discover much about Buddhist India in the 16th and 17th centuries from such texts as these, we must not expect too much accuracy and detail. In order to understand who Buddhaguptanatha was, we should first look at his name. While the Buddha part tells us something about his spiritual affiliation, it is the nath part that we should discuss first. He belonged to what is known as the ‘Nath’ or ‘Gorakhnathi’ tradition of Shiva worship. Gorakhnathis are a Hindu Sannyasin sect. In 1911 there were 45,000 of them in the census of India. There are probably more than that now. It is one of the Hindu yogic sects that have found increasing favor in India. Naths tend to wear white clothing and are identified by what is called the kanphata, the split ear, with an ivory ring thrust into the lobe. Naths have a tremendous tradition of pilgrimage and of scholarship. They practise a type of Hatha Yoga which, in its externals, is similar to the Tibetan yogic tradition. The Nath understanding of the physical and psychological structure of the body is much the same as that found in Buddhist tantric practices, with its focus on the ‘moon channel,’ ‘sun channel,’ bindu drops, et cetera. Buddhaguptanatha then, started his life as a Gorakhnath yogi. As we can see from this description, his teacher was one of the ‘cultural types’ one may still find in India: His guru, Tirthanatha, had hair which grew to thirty feet in length and his beard grew to ten feet in length due to his inherent powers. Beings who met him lived in absolute amazement. The king Ramraj had doubts about the genuineness of Tirthanatha, but after he had thoroughly inspected the situation he came to believe that this was indeed a true yogi. He ornamented each one of Tirthanatha’s hairs with a pearl, and the acharya, that is my [Taranatha's] teacher, said that when each of the pearls was then taken out of his hair and they were heaped up into a huge pile, anyone who passed by was free to remove one of those pearls. Then the guru wandered off to a place where he would be happier by being less bothered by people. For the first thirty years of Buddhaguptanatha’s life, he was apprenticed to this guru, Tirthanatha. Then in his thirtieth year, while he was meditating at the Nath pilgrimage site of Rathor in Rajasthan, he had a strange vision, a vision of the Buddhist goddess Vajrayogini. This key incident is recorded very briefly in Taranatha’s biography of his master. It is almost like it is a ‘non-conversion.’ One might expect that someone who is converting from being a Nath to a Buddhist would make it some kind of focal point, but it is really not presented that way in Taranatha’s writings: At that time, when he was in Rathor in the land of Maru, after one of the king’s men had presented him with gifts, he erected a small, grass kuti hut and he set himself in one-pointed meditation. While he was in a dream the form of Vajrayogini repeatedly appeared before him and levels of super-knowledge arose in him. Then a few lines later: At other times, again and again, Vajrayogini came to him in dreams in the guise of a barmaid and she overcame all his impediments, time and time again. From then on Buddhaguptanatha seems to abandon his allegiance to Nath practice, and becomes a Buddhist. He goes to shared pilgrimage spots revered by both Buddhists and Hindus and rarely goes to exclusively Nathi pilgrimage spots. He does not castigate his previous belief system and he does not set out to dismantle it in any way. He really seems to see it as a natural stepping stone into Buddhism. Why would the process of ‘conversion’ be so gentle, so apparently smooth? It could have been because there existed a lineage within the Nath sect called the ‘Natheshvari,’ which combined Buddhist and Hindu teachings. These Natheshvaris held Buddhist lineages of instruction within their own Hindu teaching milieu and yet they remained Nath siddhas. All of Buddhaguptanatha’s three main gurus, Tirthanatha, Brahmanatha and Krishnanatha belonged to this dissident group known as the Natheshvari. These three masters taught within a recognised Buddhist tradition, a fact which might make us redefine some of our presuppositions about religious ‘exclusivity’ in India. In a sense, Buddhist and Nath yogis might have felt they were sharing, to a great extent, a common path. Perhaps it is even true to say that the community of yogis in the 17th century was more grounded in a sense of cooperation than on more specious distinctions, such as those between Buddhism and Hinduism or, even more abstrusely, into Anuttara (highest yoga) practitioner or lower-level practitioner. Certainly, right until the end of his life, Buddhaguptanatha continued to travel to the recognised pilgrimage places that were sacred to the Kanphata sect of Nath yogins. Even when he was a mature-age siddha and had practised all the major Buddhist tantras, he continued to visit pilgrimage sites of two quite clearly distinct types: Those that were specifically Buddhist, such as Sarnath, Bodhgaya, Rajagriha, et cetera. Those of dual-occupancy where the sacred spots themselves were sacred within both the Buddhist tradition and the Kanphata tradition. It is of interest that many of these ‘dual-occupancy’ sites tend to crop up again and again in the lives of other mahasiddhas and great yogis, such as Tilopa. We could suggest from the biography, that Buddhaguptanatha spent a lot more time visiting pithas or pilgrimage places, which were simply meeting places for yogis, than he did going to exclusively ‘sacred’ places of worship. Most of what he appears to do in such places is to talk and chat with other yogis; so much so that he seems to have been somewhat disinterested in philosophic discussions. Indeed, the only time Buddhaguptanatha seems to have shown any sense of exclusivity and really resented mixing with other people was when he had to mix with other Buddhists! When his travels took him to Indonesia, he makes it clear that he intensely disliked the fact that there were Hinayanists, or Theravadins, there. The text says: He went northwards and came to the land of Javadvipa, which is known in Tibetan as the ‘land of Bali.’ In that land there were many shravakas belonging to the Sendhapa order of monks. In the midst of a lake there was a small island… In that place, the acharya, Padmavajra gave his blessings. Outside was a rocky cavern, inside of which there was a square-shaped temple. In the middle of this sat a self-created stone image of the two-armed form of Hevajra. In another cave were kept many sacred tantric volumes, five hundred thousand verse tantras… If one looked at them carefully they were not in such a state of disorder as he had heard they were said to be… Clearly the monks held a sense of disrespect for the tantric teachings here and the Sendhapas – once sacristans at Bodhgaya itself – had long been antagonistic, even to the Mahayana. Buddhaguptanatha then, set out to put these texts in order. In Java, there was a tantric heritage that had been relegated to caves while the monastic order ruled the rest of the island. I believe that this led Buddhaguptanatha to feel some residual resentment towards the Sendhapas. He felt very uncomfortable staying with them in their monasteries and obeying the many rules by which monks were bound. As a siddha, he possibly felt more at ease with the life of the wanderer – sharing friendship and a sense of direct practical experience with yogis of any and all traditions – rather than with the more measured and controlled life of a monk. Taranatha gives us a wonderful description of Dumasthira (the ‘smoky place’), which was the capital city of Urgyan. Urgyan has taken on an almost mythical quality over the centuries since yogi-siddhas first ‘colonised’ it in the 4th and 5th centuries. It is the site par excellence in siddha biographies. Here, we have a wanderer visiting it in about 1580 and still discovering its magical qualities! Buddhaguptanatha locates Urgyan in Ghazni, in modern Afghanistan, which is in contrast with the traditional location of Urgyan in the Swat area. Here, Taranatha gives a detailed description of the country and Dumasthira, the focal location of the magic dakini women: [Dumasthira]… is surrounded by mountains, valleys and dense forests and it sits in the midst of all of them. Going from east to west directly, it measures about two days’ journey and from south to north is about four days. Dumasthira is the only city in Urgyan. It’s the size of a small Indian city. There are four ways that lead out of the central area and the outer lands of Urgyan are also very extensive. It is in Muslim control, and even today, in the central part, there is not the slightest vestige of the order of Buddhist monks any longer. There are, however, groups of fully renunciate yogis, upasakas [lay people] and tirthikas [Jainas], as well as the Muslims there. It appears that most of the women of this town are of the dakini family and that they are fully accomplished in their spiritual practice. They are powerful in their exercise of mantras and they know how to both help and hinder with them. They are skilled in adopting various physical forms and they have the ability to work with the mystic gaze. They displayed various magical abilities involving birds and my master, Buddhaguptanatha, saw these miracles with his very own eyes and he told me of them. He said that previously when he was in Upper Hor [Muslim territories]… he was fully protected by the mantras that he had received from those dakinis in Urgyan, as well as by his own physical powers. Urgyan is surrounded to the east, the south and the west by three large lakes. When he… crossed over the pass he came into the Hor Mleccha land of Balkh [northern central area of modern Afghanistan]. We also have a lovely description of another of Buddhaguptanatha’s wandering adventures: He wandered elsewhere… as he was doing so a certain prostitute who was washing herself inside an empty house splashed water on his head and said the words, ‘Vijnanajnanam Avarjitavivarjitam,’ which means, ‘seek after the elements of consciousness and forsake ignorance, now and in the future.’ Thereafter, he gained great confidence in this instruction which he had been vouchsafed. And he said to me [Taranatha] that this woman might not have been a prostitute but a jnana dakini, a wisdom-holding goddess. As mentioned above, there are suggestions that Buddhaguptanatha reached Madagascar. In the language of the people around that area it was called ‘Samloranzo.’ I suggest this is in fact San Lorenzo, or Sao Lorenco, which is the name Pedro Alvarez Cabral, commander of the Portugese fleet, gave to Madagascar in 1500. Taranatha records his teacher as saying that: In that place of Samloranzo, the tantric teachings have spread very widely. He heard there the empowerments for Samvara, Hevajra and the full range of teachings on Hevajra Tantra from a teacher called Sumati. Then Taranatha goes on to talk about what Buddhaguptanatha learned, and describes the monks of that area. He says many of the teachings emanating from the renowned Padmasambhava are to be discovered there in Samloranzo, but his description of them is somewhat perplexing: Although there are many monks there, they don’t seem to obey the basic Vinaya rules of Buddhism in a full or complete manner. They dress in black and they drink alcohol among other things. He stayed there for about a year. At that time his guru Sumati passed away and then he had to go elsewhere. Could his description of them and their practices be one of the earliest records of Catholic missionary activity in Madagascar in the early 17th century? He could well be referring to Jesuits he saw there, but he describes them as some sort of bizarre semi-Buddhist sect. Possibly the alcohol is a reference to the inclusion of wine at the Mass. When Buddhaguptanatha was seventy-six years old, he met the young, nearly sixteen-year-old Tibetan monk Taranatha, on one of his travels into Tibet. The story goes that Taranatha had dreams preceding this event, on the second day of the eighth Hor month (1590). Already something of a prodigy, he dreamed while in meditation retreat at Mahabodhi near Narthang, that he was encouraged to eat a piece of human flesh and that he was suffused with bliss as a consequence. He also dreamed that he was able to fly in the sky and had become a vidyadhara. The following day, the south Indian Buddhaguptanatha arrived at Mahabodhi, semi-naked and with his hair bedecked with yellow flowers. Buddhaguptanatha described his journey into Tibet to Taranatha, and the young acolyte was especially impressed with the account of all Tibet’s local spirits coming to meet the siddha and of the mountains along the way bowing their peaks towards him. Buddhaguptanatha commenced, at Taranatha’s request, to teach him all he knew. Thus began the transmission of the vast knowledge that Taranatha was to use throughout the rest of his life. After forty-six years of peregrination around India, central Asia and south-east Asia, Buddhaguptanatha brought with him to Tibet a huge awareness of the geography and history of the places he had visited in person and those that he had heard about from fellow ascetics. It is precisely these aspects that stand out in Taranatha’s writings as the cornerstones of the factual validity for which his writings are renowned. Taranatha is hailed by Tibetan and Indian scholars as the most accurate of all those who recorded the history of Buddhism in India. According to Taranatha himself, he did not simply rely on his memory to recall the facts. He wrote notes and comments on all the data that he received orally, and it is presumably from these notes and jottings that he was able to so accurately compile his later works. Works that depended completely on that very sense of detail for much of their validity. He used lists as an aid to memory, most of them apparently based on alphabetical lists and mnemonic devices. As Taranatha writes: I wrote notes, I wrote addenda lists to my notes and I ensured that these were not fragmentary or careless. Whatever teachings he gave me I wrote them all down on paper. On one memorable occasion, just before a Tara initiation, Taranatha dreamed about just how important these teachings were to him. He saw his skin peeled and stitched together to act as paper, his life’s blood becoming ink, his ribs becoming quills and his entrails and bones being used as bindings and thongs for the volumes. After a few months in Tibet, Buddhaguptanatha would not promise to stay any longer, despite Taranatha’s entreaties. There is no clear reason given for the rift between them, but there are clues to be found in Taranatha’s Secret Biography. In a dream Taranatha had at Samding, he saw a complex mandala of pandits including Aryadeva, and siddhas including Matangi. Taranatha felt that he had now ‘joined’ that lineage, at which thought a young maiden appeared from out of the mandala and told him that he still possessed a huge amount of dualistic thought and pride and thereby insulted the yogic tradition. In Taranatha’s biography of Buddhaguptanatha, it is simply said that Taranatha was told that he had too much dualistic thought and that no more teachings were to be made available to him. Even Buddhagupta’s students Nirvanasripada and Purnavajrapada, who visited some years later, refused to ‘complete’ Buddhaguptanatha’s teachings. When Taranatha requested that they do so, they left hurriedly! Another reason for Buddhaguptanatha’s eventual departure could have been simply his difficulty in remaining too close to a monastic situation, the confining nature of which he had experienced previously in Indonesia. For Buddhaguptanatha, monasticism and yogic practice did not sit well together. Taranatha records something of his master’s character with great affection. He says that he was in complete control of his psychic winds and could sit naked in the cold Tibetan highlands, warming disciples within two metres of himself. His lightness of body meant that travel through the mountains was extremely easy for him and also enabled him to fall from considerable heights without injury, as he would descend rather like a sloughed-off snakeskin. His loving attitude towards all creatures changed the normally savage Tibetan mastiff dogs into lap dogs, which would come and lick his body. So gentle was he, that crows and nestlings would come to him and sit on his lap and fingers, and even though he were to stroke them, they would not flee. Spirits provided him with food and he was never seen to partake of mortal food with his Tibetan students. It is tempting to imagine that such siddhas survived even later in India and continually added to Tibetan understandings of Buddhism with their knowledge of ‘lost’ and ‘hidden’ teachings, which had somehow miraculously survived in India. However, Buddhaguptanatha’s remarkable life should serve to remind us that Buddhism is capable of survival in any environment and under any circumstances. Its ability to survive in any situation is one of its glories and its late survival in India is testimony to this ability.

In Gen. 2:21–25, the second creation story, the Elohim cast Adam into a profound sleep to make out of him a faithful, subservient companion called Eve. This Eve was not "created" or equal, as the female in the first creation story, but "fashioned out of a rib." The deeper comedy, however, is that nowhere does it say that they ever woke Adam up. The first creation story, Genesis 1:26–27, the Elohim (a plural for God) create "male and female" equal. It is said that this first woman, Lilith, was demonized by the Hebrews, and subsequently by the Christians, for leaving Adam in Eden’s garden. Yes,...waking up may be a noble pursuit,...but who will pay the price,...of letting go of the dream.

Last year had similar experience. She is 20 I am 35. Just came up to her on a street. Now I recognize it was my unfulfilled infatuation coming from my past when I did not receive enough love from a NICE girl. NICE means the girl "from my dream" - tall sexy brunette with blue eyes... We understood that it could not last long. But had nice time together. No sex, just some intimacy. Still thinking of her sometime. But I understand that may be it was not love but just desire. Why not love? Simple. We have absolutely different states of psyche. While talking about music, movies, school, some jokes etc all was good, but when started about something more serious there was gap between us which was a great challenge which she could not accept. 20 years old human is still teenager. Who wants fun, alcohol, party, bar, toys, primitive movies, wild sex and does not bother anything spiritual etc. And if you are 36 and on the path of spirituality the gap is doubled. Just let it pass and look inside. But you can go into desire and you will see the end. Even if stay together how long? One, two months...? Common... In one two years she will find somebody younger and more sexy. This is facts of life. If you are on the path of spirituality you need somebody mature. I would prefer to have more matured spiritually women than myself. This would be a greater challenge for the growth. But I think this is nearly impossible. Just can not see myself laying in bed with someone instead of my practice. IMO waste of time.

Each step we make, each thought, each word spoken, goes into the ever-evolving mandala we each have created for ourselves, and herein, they slowly take form, strand by strand, moment by moment. A lot of unhappiness and fear and all those other unpleasant traits arise in people when they look at their handiwork (this mandala which they have created) and cannot find how each thing is connected within, in the process, become disassociated from the truth that every single aspect of this mandala is a direct result of their own body, speech and mind. By sharply focussing on the external creations, its understandable that a sense of helplessness could arise, but what we need to realize, and to remember, is that at the center of each single, unique mandala is found a perfect dot, the essence of which is timeless and perfect. Meditation is an exercise which we can undertake to return again and again to this boundaryless space. Having gained access, we will find vital rest. We can always begin anew, to create, to dream, to start again, freshly reinvigorated, clarity reinstated. From this clear plane, what is there to stop us being buddhas all over again? Something i read from Pema Kathang sums it all up nicely... In this blessed Buddha-land of irrevocable enlightenment, In the lofty abode of openness, The intrinsic nature of things, Having neutralized surface, depth, width, the limits of any dimension, On the highest plane where there is neither inner nor outer: The windows of vision are flooded with light. emaHo!!

I'll say it has a sense of humor - it changes with the times...its very cunning and adaptable. I'd say it reacts less to the form of the thoughts one has and more to the feeling behind the thoughts. Personally I am not in agreement with the theory that it 'awakes' in the muladhara chakra...I think it simply and directly integrates with the brain. I don't think that it is endemic to each and every human being - I think of it as an external entity that seeks out specific individuals to integrate with...like an attaching spirit. My view has been formed over the past 14 years. My experience was of the 'top down' type. I wrote what follows on another forum recently and it is what makes the most sense to me: "Kundalini "comes in" through the brain only and stays in the brain...the reason I put 'comes in' in quotes is because there really is no actual entry, there is no barrier to kundalini from touching ones nervous system. Matter presents no barrier. The reason that you feel various effects within the body is because kundalini is moving through various areas of the brain that control these areas and integrating with them. When you start having spontaneous movements, this is because the kundalini is getting access to the pre-motor and motor cortex areas, which control all sensation of kinesthesis and all voluntary movement respectively. Kundalini is an intelligent entity, perhaps electromagnetically based. The brain is an bioelectromagnetic powerhouse. Skin, muscle, bones, organs (i.e. gross matter) present no obstacle to kundalini as matter is 99% space. It has no need to enter at a specific point. More to the point it simply attaches, makes contact, or 'gloms on' to your bioelectric nervous system as easily as you would reach out and touch someone. Its main area of influence, as stated above, is the brain...it goes there directly....I use a technique called 'Occam's Razor' see: [link to en.wikipedia.org]....The problem with mysticism is that it relies too much on anthropomorphism. Kundalini is clearly a noncorporeal intelligence, thus it has no gender, no form, and no limitations by the physical laws as we know them. So like I said, it would not be limited by our physical structure...just as radio waves, x-rays and other portions of the electromagnetic spectrum can pass through our body as if it isn't even there, I am quite sure that the kundalini can too...The problem with kundalini is that it increases emotionality which can lead to false belief systems which much resemble schizophrenia-like hyper-perception of synchronicities. One becomes very sensitive to stimuli and notes things that other people wouldn't see and one can read too much into them. The Kundalini will not disavow us of our belief, it will leave us alone to form our own opinion, or even support us in a false opinion. That is why it often called, 'the great masquerador' or 'the great trickster' - in a way it plays games, but not really - all it does is take our own belief system and send it back to us magnified until we burn through it....years later, in retrospect, I saw that the kundalini had been with me almost all my life - influencing my dreams and perceptions from a young age....Just a quick explanation about the pre-motor and motor cortex - all movement is initiated from here. When you decide to move something, a rapid relay of information travels back and forth to/from the area you are moving to the corresponding areas of the motor cortex. The pre-motor cortex area senses/receives, and the motor cortex stimulates/sends the commands to the body part. When you feel something touch you, in essence you are not really feeling it at that body part, you are actually feeling it in the brain, specifically in a kind of kinesthetic map which is called the 'homunculus' which is like a miniature model of your body. Even intense feelings like orgasms are actually 100% experienced in the brain in the appropriate area of the homunculus. If you don't believe me google it. Nothing is actually experienced in the body itself. The signals are sent from the corresponding area of the body and then experienced in the homunculus. I have experimented heavily with dissasociative drugs like DXM and ketamine and they can easily alter your sense of shape. I have felt as small as an atom, and as large as a mountain. I have felt my body seemingly morph into different shapes, such as my hand become a mallet. One time in a lucid dream the kundalini changed my entire perception of myself - it made me into a shape of a ficus tree. I felt like my body was shaped like a ficus tree. So you see, kinesthetic sensations are malleable...and they all happen in the brain. Think of the phantom limb effect when someone has one amputated. It would make the most logical sense that the kundalini does all this through the brain. Even if you feel a certain 'chakra' being stimulated, it is my belief that the kundalini never actually leaves the brain, as it doesn't have to. Occam's Razor leads me to this belief. Yes, maybe it could modulate the signals coming from a body part at the source, I am sure it could actually...but it makes so much more sense to go to the sources of perception and signal relay and affect it there. As far as tests and experiments - I don't see myself being cruel. It messes with me, I mess with it - we have an understanding...and an almost lover like relationship - playfully irreverant. Also, if it didn't want to participate in the experiment I cant force it....I am pretty sure it not a deity - I think its just a noncorporeal intelligence. No better than anyone else.

Along this line of vibrational study you may also wish to try the following: Imagine a color vibration at the crown of your head. You might try a specific color vibration or a vibration bouquet of an approximate color vibration. I make this distinction because of the amount of judgement we tend to have regarding many colors. Much of it is mis-information and in any case - it is narrowing. You can also look at your crown to see the different colors that are associated with different mantras. Sound healing is not really so different from any sort of healing (healing in the sense of transcending a knotted pattern to one of a new paradigm) We hold a vibration (of any kind) and it will reinforce existing patterns and or "pop" obstructions to a full resonance. If you puck a string it will cause other strings to vibrate within a range of harmonies. If something is sitting on those strings it will tend to be vibrated off or it will stifle the vibration sometimes altogether. Moving the clutter on those strings is generally what is "cultivation". Habituation to our genetic propensities, cultural propensities and the "story" we have created is our sleep waking dream world - waking up from this is what most of this is all about. Mantras can vivify particular chakras and they can also help in "correctly" routing energies. Pain pictures in our space may have our energies re-routed around them or we may compress them into oblivion (for a time). chakras. We come to the table with all sorts of notions about Chakras - with huge amounts of mis-information - childish notions of what this one or that one does. Mantras, color meditations, Qi Gong exercises, Fasting, self-observation, intentional breathing, intentional mindfulness - these all will bring out awareness of the chakras. Partly because you will discover where you are centered - what chakras you tend to wear in your life and perhaps what chakras you tend to avoid. Learn to work on the full spectrum of vibrations - become neutral to all of them - none is better than another. In the beginning of practice it is very exciting to vibrate in the stratosphere - this makes the miraculous seem nearer - like we are really learning something. We may however be learning an addiction that is not helpful at all - intermix vibration - the lower chakras and the male body in particular hold great power in the more amplified lower vibrations and you will find the awareness of your body/spirit connection grounding. This grounded coupling of awareness is ultimately why you have a physical body - otherwise you would not be here.

multiverses are byproducts of attempts at a unified field theory which inherently does not exist due to the limitations of measurement. So the concept of multiverse is a play toy of scientists -- http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=4715 with no conceivable means of proof in the near future. Science is based on quantum physics which is limited by the time-frequency uncertainty principle. This time-frequency uncertainty principle is the opposite extreme of the Tai Chi symbol. So time-frequency uncertainty creates a paradox in Einstein's relativity because as energy goes up in frequency towards the speed of light then time also goes up in wavelength since time slows down due to relativity. This paradox is not allowed in physics due to the inverse relation of time period to frequency or wavelength amplitude to frequency -- the Law of Pythagoras. So de Broglie created the Law of Phase Harmony which has two time clocks so then when frequency is zero then phase as time is infinite creating faster then light information signaling. But then science makes a technological measurement changing phase into amplitude and this collapes the uncertainty principle so it aligns with linear causation of relativity. So most scientists state that quantum physics can not violate the linear causation of Einstein's relativity because science inherently relies on "collapsing" the wavefunction by using technology to detect the energy -- except for the Quantum Zeno Effect which enables measurements to take place at a faster rate then the technological detection of the energy. So it is postulated that in quantum biology like for photosynthesis and bird migration there is the Quantum Zeno Effect taking place which actually enables 100% efficiency of energy transfer due to quantum superposition or quantum faster than light signaling or quantum tunneling -- depending on how someone interprets the quantum physics. But it does exist - it is delaying the collapse of the wave-function in reality. This effect can not be reproduced through technology but has been demonstrated to exist in life -- and is postulated to explain the sense of smell in humans based on quantum frequency changes even though the physical molecule is the same. So science is inherently limited because there is no "infinitesimal" measuring tool - it is inherently impossible or as scientists state the quantum "infinite potential" literally does not physically exist until it is measured -- or the wavefunction is collapsed. So any superliminal communication exists after the fact -- according to mainstream science that can be reproduced by technology. This is similar to nonwestern shamanism as the Emptiness is impersonal and then the visionary information has to be translated back into left brain linear time. So for example if a person has a vision that is precognitive -- then the person has to train to be able to interpret that vision properly. So a precognitive vision is actually "more real" then being awake in linear time or even a normal dream state -- since a precognitive vision is superconsciousness. But it's only through experience that the person can train to recognize this as it occurs in real time. For example in the dream state a male could be about to ejaculate - which is a real event in linear left brain dominant time -- but the male needs to recognize in "real" non-linear dream time that the dream to ejaculate is not just a dream but "more real" than being awake -- since a male would not normally ejaculate with no control while awake. Or it could be just training as "staying power" while awake and having sex - and so the ejaculation is called "little death" - a moment of going into the Emptiness. Yeah so this is a tunnel experience from the black hole to white hole but there is a reversal of spacetime -- so a reversal from left brain to right brain via the pineal gland as the hole.

"We need a deeper understanding of what the dream is, of what experience is, to truly utilize dreaming as an approach to enlightenment. When we practice deeply, many wonderful dreams will arise, rich with signs of progress. But ultimately the meaning in the dream is not important. It is best not to regard the dream as correspondence from another entity to you, not even from another part of you that you do not know. There is no conventional meaning outside of the dualism of samsara. This view is not a giving in to chaos: there is no chaos or meaninglessness either, these are more concepts. It may sound strange, but this idea of meaning must be abandoned before the mind can find complete liberation. And doing this is the essential purpose of dream practice. We do not ignore the use of the meaning in dreaming. But it is good to recognize that there is also dreaming in meaning. Why expect great messages from a dream? Instead penetrate to what is below meaning, the pure base of experience. This is the higher dream practice - not psychological, but more spiritual - concerned with recognizing and realizing the fundament of experience, the unconditioned. When you progress to this point, you are unaffected by whether there is a message in the dream or not. Then you are complete, your experience is complete, you are free from the conditioning that arises from dualistic interactions with the projections of your own mind." -Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche from The Tibetan Yogas of Sleep and Dream

There is no divine power what can happen is what the tao allows what the tao doesnt allow doesnt happen No one can astrally project No one can fly No one can turn invisible No one can live forever No one can read minds etc But you are still as a creator demigod ! You can remember the past You can predict some things about the future You can dream up things that dont exist You are free from overriding instinct You can get on a plane use a phone hide , create a legacy , and have understanding and empathy

Any well formed symbol system is useful for both passive uses, like divination, in which it reflects a train of events and for active purposes like magic, where it can be used to influence a train of events. The Tarot is excellent as a magical system, the average "magician" can hardly dream of all that is concealed in Western Geomancy as a form of magic, the same goes for Yi Jing, Mah Jong, and many other systems like that. I have experience with several of them,some for decades. They are worth the time and effort investigating.

heheheh Ouro Preto, Brasil oh, about my sexual urge, i don`t know if there is any practice saying anything about it, but I just practices the Vipassana equanimity and qigong Song - relaxation, and the feeling on my penis backed-up and became a cozy warm feeling on my body, and a feeling of light heartedness as if my heart were dissolving. when i went to sleep i felt the same feeling of lightness and dissolving in my heart and my legs, and eventually i felt as if my heart had stopped and i kinda of left my body in an astral projection, not very lucid though, i remebmer being on a dining room, and came back to my body. The practice that I mentioned is to unblock sexual blockages and cause a sexual healing, which, in my view, is essential for advanced practice of Qigong. this last week`s dreams were very intense indeed... not sexual, for the first time in years, but very dark and scarry, which i believe is a good sign because it probably means that i going through a cleansing, If this "sexual treatment" really works and i stop having nocturnal emissions spontaneosly, that probably means that my inner journey will get very accentuated so I guess i guess that i need to be ready for visions and scarry shit from the Lower Astral Planes, which we go through before accessing the Superior Astral Planes and dimensions of light. one interesting dream that i had...I wanted to urinate, and as i started, i noticed I was pissing blood, it was scarry, this blood started getting thick, and eventually seemed like tomato juice in texture and color, I was in horror, I thought that I was really sick and probably was not far away from my death (I did not know that i was dreaming)... hehe the thing is.. i think this dream represented all the sexual impurities (including repression) that was blocking my energetic body, and how i was pissing them all out with the practices that i mentioned above. Had some other dreams with Demons and stuff, not cool at all, but I know it`s part of the process, so i just observed my fear and bad feelings, I consider it to be a kind of catharsis, so I observe it equanimously, withour reacting to it (just like with sexuality). anyways... about sexuality, it is interesting to mention Dionisus, the God of immortality, and how he is represented naked, his symbol is wine (bliss) and the myth in which he is cut down into pieces and thrown into a cauldron, and only his penis stays left out. And Narcisuss`s myth with Echo, which represents the rejection of the Female, and how she becomes solidified and pale because of this. I could go on and on, with examples of my life and myths, etc, of the importance of curing oneself sexually, first of all to be happy, and second to have a solid foundation to further practice and spiritual evolution. Oh... Goldleaf... about your retention practices... just a note.. you really must analyse why you are doing these practices... is it for self knowledge, for spiritual unfoldment?? because I can guarantee you that the process of knowing one`s self is very subtle, it involves the mind, emotions, feelings, physical body, energy, alot, alot of subtle, subtle dimensions, and not just sticking three gross fingers in the perineum and then milking your penis. Another thing, instead of doing this stopping method, you can familiarize your self with Vajroli Mudra... which is contraction of musces associated with the uniary and ejaculatory tract, to exercice them, you must stand in front of the loo when going to urinate, relax your whole body, and try to stop your urination just with your muscles.... note, it is important not to contract any other muscle, so you must not twitch you buttocks, nor your perineum, nor your anus muscles, and not the muscles on the lwer base of your penis. Try to contract and isolate only the muscles that are behind the pubic bone, nside your body... practice takes to perfection. Then, while meditating or during ANOTHER practice, you can try and strengthen all those other muscles and isolate all of them one from another. when stopping ejaculation this the muscles associated with Vajroli Mudra, much less semen stays stuck on the ejaculatory tract. But again my brother, when you solve your sexual issues and remain equanimous, you will certainly not ejaculate, and the ejaculation will turn into bliss, so this practice is just so that, while you sincerely try with patience and persistence to retain your ejaculation by observing your pleasure without reacting to it, neither piostive nor negatively, IF it happens that you really ae completely invevitably going to ejaculate, then you contract Vajroli Mudra to hold it in.... note.: During some practices i already have spent even up to 15 minutes on the "no turning back point", I thought that I had to do vajroli mudra to hold the semen in, but if I did it, I surejy would have an ejaculation urge, so i remained equanimous... for 15 minutes, and then it subdued. best

Bravo... please, do not force the semen to stay inside for your own sake my brother! My God... I do not agree at all with you. Nice coming up this topic because I was going to start one myself... I Have been practicing inte4nse Yoga and Qigong over the last three years, and I opened up alot of higher Chakras and intuitive features, but the lower Dantien and the lower chakras always held me back.. over the last years I have not manages to go for 10 days straight without a wet dream, I became very tensed about it, I even read about how Hatha Yoguins xhshould nto ejaculate or they die!!! heheh I sure did not die, thnks God.. Any ways... on the past days I had realisations after realizations and gladly one of them was regarding my sexuality and the sexual issue... I finally understood that all those dreams were coming up just to compensate my lack of pleasure due to a "mentally forced celibacy", and fighting against ejaculation, pleasure, which took away all my relaxation, all my Song, and my harmony and fluidness, once, I even denied a girl to sleep with me, she was going through a very bad phase on her life, I was very mean, she was going through schisofrenic attacks, and she was very pretty... I feel guilty, but I simply could not understand my sexual issue... past girlfriends even said that I kind of hurt alot their "inner woman", now I understand it better... about 10 days ago I got a bus and a very pretty and sexual girl sat beside me, she started rubbing her legs on mine and her arms, i got very excited, and decided to OBSERVE MY EXCITEMENT, (note.. I did not mentally fight against it, not did I jump untop of her and ripped her clothes with my teeth, I simply OBSERVED EQUANIMOUSLY), i actually got a big bonner and almost ejaculated on my pants, but I became calm and surernded, and relaxed, relaxed, relaxed... I noticed that I had some tension in my pelvic area, so I relaxed it, and accepted it, relaxed it and accepted it, relaxed it and accepted it, suddently, the ejaculation urge came back into my body and transformed in a very pleasure heat that spread over my body.... then I understood... all those dreams... were telling me to accept this PLEASURE (not act as an animal, simply let the pleasure envelop you, without trying to dominate it), the more you let the pleasure come without deisirng obsessively nor runing away from it, the more safe your Jing will be safe guarded. Since then I am making alot of experiments, every time I have a sexual urge or a urge of repressing a sexual urge, I simply observe it from a detached point of view, and relax my body, especially the area of the girdle vessel, every time I watch a film and there is a sex scene I observe it attentively, and examine my feelings, they are still a mixture of running away and ofdesiring, but I remain equanimous. During some meditations, when I focus my attention on my lower dantien, my hui ying, and my anus, etc... I still sometimes have a spontaneous bonner, so I observe it and do not react to it, neither in a positive nor negative way, and it becauses a wonderful feeling that permeates my whole body... my secxual dreams that haunted my ceassed!!! I passed so many years of my life without feeling pleasure...., whoa.. this is awful!!!!! my dreams were coming as a warning sign!!! for sure!!! (pleasure does not mean a luxurious sexual animal... but simple bliss..) with every breath I wfeel this "sexual Qi".. it is wonderful (But I know that I need to becareful as not to DESIRE this feeling as it will sonner or later fall into animosity, but simply LET IT BE, it occurs naturally! sexuality is like a flower, if you try and grasp it (i.e. abuse of sexuality) it's petals will fall of, if you deny it... well... the whole Earth which is very feminine, very orgasmic, very sexual, willl deny you too... I remember that my sexual blockages started since when I was a child, my father would ask me to close my eyes when sexual scenes would pop up on the cinema... geese... he didn't know how he was hurting my inner self!... my whole taichi practice these days are VERY SEXUAL, but in a WU-WEI sexuality... very, very pleasing indeed... so brother.. when those feeeling arise... practise relaxation (song), eqquanimity, watch everything, savour it without desiring it, and let it envelop you... act naturaly. the retention will start normally (of course it is good to avoid sexual relationships during a certain perod untill you learn how to do this...) to be continued.. no time now,,,, *Edit* ok I have 15 more minutes so I will try to be brief and clear... Swami Satyananda says a story that goes like this (resume). there was once a king that won a beautiful and powerful horse as a present, but no one could tame the horse.. he called all the best horse tamers of the country, but did not manage to tame the horse, so, finally a simple man appeared claiming that he would do the job, the King tsaid that he would be paid generously if he managed... so the firt thing that he did was let the horse run wild... no one understood him.. the King thought that the man was debauching huim.. but the man simply said "trust me", so, , after days and night running wild, the horse finnaly subdued and walked to the man,,, tamed!" reflet upon this story my brother.. day and night.. and your whole practice and life and meditation will boost.... so to resume the practice of "celibacy", I recomed the following.. 1) reflect day and night upon the concepts of Song, (relaxatioion / release) and Equanimity (not desiring nor running away from pléasure and pain) 2) reflect upon the story mentioned above. 3) practice Yoga or whatever you practice NAKED... go to a nudist beach whenever you have an opportunity and walk naked around... (always equanim0ous and relaxed and trying tobe aware of you blockages and do not react to them.. only observe untill they dissolve). I honestly walk around feeling as if I am naked, even if I am with my clothes on..so good, so natural... so natural.. so natural... 4) rpactice moving practices such as tachi, and with a sexual qi added to it .... and feel pleasure in everything.. every breath (inghale and relsease a AHHHH full of pleasure ) but beware I amnot saying that you need to feel desire.... it will come naturally, you must be equanimous and let the pleasure envelop you... the sexual breathing it sooo good, every thing is soo good... life is sooo gooood!!! cheeerrrrssssss!!!! AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AUHAUHAUHAHUA best * Edit* number two.... sexuality and pleasure is very feminine in nature.. so if you deny it, you will deny all the other feminine aspects which are: love in between family members, love inbetween a father and a son, sense of community and SAKTI -vitality... all this is ver beautifull... I am very sad for cultivators that did not realise this, and cut off ompeltely BLISS from their lifes... reflect upon this my brother.. and you will learn how to retain your Jing... and your practice will boost, boost boost... love

Vmarco-- stop trying to corrupt someone's dream!! Over and out Peace

Hi I have had some interesting realizations. I have had some experiences with the 'clear light' that comes from the heart and manifests out of the eyes. I have written about these episodes, which I was calling 'satori moments' in various threads. The last post was here: http://thetaobums.com/topic/27071-difference-between-being-in-pure-land-and-clear-light/?p=413974 The jist of it is that, there is a channel which goes from the heart to the eyes. It is called the Kati crystal channel. If you can activate this channel by being relaxed and loving, a phenomenon occurs which can be described as "a waterous radiantly clear liquid-like substance comes out of your eyes and projects itself into the viewable scenery." The phenomenon is characterised by tremendous Bliss, Joy, Peace, the feeling that you are everything and a particular silence of the conceptual mind. So far, nobody has been able to confirm this experience. This is not a 3D visual effect; the world is seen as it appears, not holographic. The world (the scene you are viewing) appears normally except is much brighter, radiant, glistening. The feeling (to me) is like you are God looking into the eyes of God. Everything is love or one or the same taste. Yesterday, I was reading a book called "A Clear Mirror" - Traktung Dudjom Lingpa and I came across this quote: Hmmm! Perhaps my experiences are realizations of 'emptiness's true nature'. ! Dudjom Lingpa's meditation instructions are very similar to the types of practices that I have been doing.. The text that leads into the reference of the kati channel is here: A few days ago, after posting about the 'satori moments' I started contemplating the clear waterous substance that emits from the eyes as bliss, peace, joy, love, brilliant radiance.. I focused on remembering the phenomenon, examining it, remembering each aspect. Recalling the experiences was somehow setting it off again. And, it was right before my regular meditation time, so I went to meditate for an hour. I sat in my usual posture and started with my dedications/prayers. The bells from my "Insight Timer" went off, indicating the start of the hour long session. There were great streams of love and tingles coming from my heart. I could not 'meditate'. I decided to just let it go and sit. (I was going to do 1 hour of breath meditation). As the waves of tingles radiated out from the heart, I noticed that the space had opened up inside. This is the typical space that opens when the senses shut off. It is the space in which one can see the thoughts, visions, colors, lights, chakras.. etc.. However, this time I noticed that the conceptual mind was "behind" again, which was the same positioning of the conceptual mind during the satori moments. I just let it be. The vibrations radiating upwards from the heart grew more intense. There were subtle films or wisps of light moving all about in front of the conceptual mind. I just let it be and watched. Then, all of a sudden, a very clear face appeared in the front of the space, beyond the front of the brow. It was an image of Ramana. Ok. It sure seemed bright. The image did not go away. And then it moved! And then I felt this overwhelming love coming out of it. Could it be? Ramana? His hair was white. My conceptual mind kicked in and starting throwing up all these thoughts.. I was once again plummeting into the war of mind-games.. I fought off the con-mind as best I could and refocused on Ramana. There was one thought that got through.. "What if it wasn't Ramana? " So, I binded the image of Ramana in the name of Jesus Christ and watched. The image of Ramana did not disappear. What happened was very funny. Another vision of Jesus appeared behind Ramana! Now I was looking at Jesus and Ramana. Then, something even stranger happened. The image of Ramana became a full person standing tall, then that image became a full image of Jesus standing tall, and then that image became another outline of another body (who I thought may have been Gandhi) and then another image... That was too much for my conceptual mind to handle.. Thoughts started cascading out.. I re-arranged my orientation, took a deep breath and went back into meditation. There was Ramana again. This time, he was sitting on a wooden bench in what seemed to be a scene from India. There were not many plants, the sky was very blue and there was a small structure in the background that looked like a clay-walled hut. Then Ramana said to me "Come and sit with me". !! By this point I realized that perhaps this was the real thing. I could see the whole scene as if looking through a telescope. I had no idea what I should do. I went and sat with him. It was like being in a dream. He was wearing nothing but a large white cloth around his bottom. I could not think of anything to say! I just sat there, feeling the love and understanding. Then I thought of something.. I had always had dreams that I had lived in India before this present life. I had visions of steam locomotives, and this one strange three-story-building with no center. The building had a main floor and three surrounding balconies. So, I asked Ramana if I had lived there before. At once, I got more visions of India, the colors, the locomotives, the earthen buildings.. Lots of scenery. It appears that I have in fact been in Ramana's presence before.. Back on the meditation seat, I pulled out and started crying. I had no idea. Ramana! King of the heart! It took a few days to get over the initial shock of that experience. The mind must justify by thinking that time and space are only concepts and that the great gurus transcend these phenomenon quite easily. Lots to think about. For the last two days, I have uncovered some new insights. I'm trying to stay away from heart meditations because my conceptual mind is rebelling too much.. However, for some reason, I now realise how to enter the space of the mind quite easily. What you do is this: Focus on the little space just below and inside from the navel. Say the mantra "O" silently (internally) and keep it going.. Just "O".. one long "OOOOOOOO".. not "ou" as in 'you', just one long "O" as in 'bow'. AUM has no begining or end.. Just one long "O". What this does is it causes the lower dantien, the place belowe the navel to activate. It is the center of will. It is what you use when you "really try hard". It is what is starting and stopping the breathing too. It also gives off heat if you let it. Anyway, just keep the "O" going with no breaks in it, and then do breath meditation on the place just below the navel. Watch each breath, while visually/mentally looking at the point below the navel. There is a white light there, which helps you to focus. Within a few minutes of doing that, you will see that the space inside your body really opens up. It opens up like your heart opens up, in a vacuous space. Then, you will see visions very easily, but don't look at them. Keep looking at the point where the "O" is coming out of. Keep watching the motion of the lower abdomen, moving with each inhale and exhale. Listen to the "O". Focus on the breath and don't interfere with the breathing. You will start to notice that with each breath, a sort of membrane expands and contracts around the body, from inside the space. That is a good sign. You are seeing from inside the space. After a while, the dreams/visions come quite easily. It is easy because the "O" is also activating the throat chakra, which is the source of the dream world. You can play about in this meditation.. explore, experience the space. I'm seeing some wonderful colors, brilliant displays of patterns and structures, visions and things I've never seen before.. right at the place below the navel.. I have been doing this meditation for two days now, as my regular practice.. During the last meditation, my whole coarse consiousness collapsed, I swooned and almost successfully passed into the beyond. I failed again, but I'll keep trying. It is so hard just to let go. TI

Mal thanks for making your point - your last comment was definitely cryptic! haha. So Stiggy really does believe in qi energy? I have asked several times and gotten no response from him. I have read Elkin's book on the Australian aborigine shamans. Do you think the skeptics need to be reassured that the aborigine shamans are not fake? I wonder if there are any real shamans left among the aborigines! The West is a culture of rational genocide against real shamans. So why would a shaman want to try to appease the rational genocide people? The shaman wants to hide from the rational genocide people. IN the U.S. it was illegal for Native Americans to practice shamanism after 1887 and until the National Religious Freedom Act was passed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Religious_Freedom_Act 1978!! So until then the shamans had to remain in hiding and I read a biography of one real shaman of the Lakota tradition -- he died in the 1980s. I suppose Adam the Dream Healer could be considered a Native American shaman as he was born with his third eye fully open and he is part Indian.... But otherwise this shamanism is a dying off tradition. Someone posted on my blog recently about how they had traveled China and they were now in India -- the whole time looking for energy masters! The person not only did not find any real energy masters that could heal him but they wanted to return to Chunyi Lin to get another healing! That's how rare real energy masters are. So if someone wants to experience the energy they have to seek it out. It's their own personal choice. I can provide the contact info http://springforestqigong.com has further details. Someone PMd me about getting a phone healing for a family member. So it feels like a laser deep in the heart -- Chunyi Lin's phone healing.

yech, actually re-reading it I think I came off too harsh. I'm striving for peace but my nature is to wade into Tar Sands, often self righteously. No one really wins these fights, its just an exercise in who can insult the other most cleverly. Here once again, I got too personal, too fast. Even in my own Personal Discussion space I saw myself shooting from the hip using words like Luddite Paranoia on friends who were just commenting on microwave ovens. Still the most powerful argument is a mirror, going all Yin on there ass. In Sushil's case saying. What if you get your wish? A genie grants it but then says, we'll try it out on your country first. Vaporize 90% of the people, because you're a visionary I'll let you live, but beware, no medication, no tech or textiles. Clean waters going to be hard to find. People may end up killing for it. On the third hand, I understand his longing. The peaceful village away from industrial society, honoring the old ways. Its not just a dream, its out there. One of the lecturer's I was went to recently was Krishna Das the singer and he talked of the little pristine villages up in India's mountainous regions where people sang and kept the old ways. Yet, here he was back in the West. We all want to head for a Hobbit Shire, but in reality the best solution is bring it closer to us. We get closer every fruit tree we plant.

Wait, I don't speak French... but you may dream in la langue... Morning "frog" in throat?

Fellow ATS members... I like this message board since it is very focused in Chi and the Tao. I just have a very magnificent dream this early morning. In this dream, it was like it is telling me my whole life is about to change to something huge. The dream used a huge tall building to manifest the meaning. Then, the building was speaking to me. I just hold on and keep on meditating and cultivating. I am sure I would gain enough mind clarity soon. Yeah, once you have attained certain degree of enlightenment, you don't want to live in darkness and surrounded by people and society who are still living in the dark.

Have spent all of about 3 minutes on this since my last post, been busy I think its kind of funny you make that assertion that 'deniers' are in power and using authoritarian means to enforce it, because depending on which aspect you look at, it is exactly the opposite. So while there may be enough balance in congress to prevent drastic (not to mention unnecessary) action on co2, look at some local governments, look at academia, look at the MSM and AGW is basically gospel and you're loony to even question "the experts" aka the "climate scientists," regardless of how shaky their understandings are of various mathematical rigors. Fascism is as fascism does - who's doing what? Who's willing to use force to make others do as we wish? Who's saying I am correct no you may not look in my black-box-number-cruncher? To the extent that revenge is possible or necessary, mother nature will take it. To the extent it isnt, she wont. I've said many a time that the carbon crusade merely diverts resources from real environmental efforts. But then, every time you say something about co2, you bring in other environmental efforts. You're smarter than that, drew. Look at the math, look at the TSI, look at the history, look at the cooling coefficient for aerosols trying to explain the 70s cooling, look at how they 'fixed it' with a heavy co2 warming coefficient, note how every model that makes these mistakes 'breaks' and makes absolutely preposterous predictions on timescales longer than a decade or three - can you honestly tell me that crap stands up to rigor? All I see is that "its generally in line with your environmentalism" so you support it - but ffs, support it if its real - rail against real pollution, dont support more taxes for nothing, dont support a trillion paid out for a phantom .2 degrees of warming "saved or prevented." Politicians have a great many scams and the less we all buy into them, the better. You dream up some funny stuff sometimes. That's not what I said. I said the models dont predict these events that have massive cooling effects and many times in the past enough of them clumped together have precipitated ice ages. Cant predict their frequency, their intensity, their distribution. Another significant hole in the wall. Sorry to see you regret asking perfectly acceptable and valid questions, SB. So I asks questions that shoot a ton of holes in these models that predict disaster, but then I'm asked to explain everything and give out a perfectly correct theory of all this? Methinks if I could, I know of a certain person or three that wouldnt believe it anyway even if I had begun with omnisciently procuring the surrounding ten centuries of climate data and pulling sets of equations that perfectly describe it all out of thin air. Bottom line, The questions I ask about the fantasy models are straightforward questions, and they point out valid gaps in predictive capability for the models that make the preposterous predictions. I havent seen anyone post anything that refutes these gaps I have spoken of - only assertions that they are nevertheless correct overall. Little disconnect? The whole "well, you describe it all perfectly to us, then" is merely avoiding the questions I've asked. I'll be back later on things like why giss is skewed as hell, but really...in court if there is significant reasonable doubt you committed a crime, most often you are not convicted. Wrt/ AGW its like a kangaroo court where reasonable doubt isnt enough, you have to prove explicitly and unequivocally, and even then, you're told you're off your rocker because the people that run the court (i.e. agw peer review process) perverted it and actively suppressed dissent, all for wont of being correct for the scientists, all for wont of endless amounts of tax money to buy votes if you're a politician.

The past couple times I've done a lot of cocoa -- I almost lose the alchemical pill while sleeping -- so I got curious - does chocolate have a lot of zinc? sure enough -- it is listed among the top ten foods for zinc! Because the only other thing that consistently causes me to almost always have a dream ejaculation is beef which is also high in zinc. I mean I almost always wake up from my dream and then stop the ejaculation halfway out the organ and then do kegel to stop it and then I go into full lotus until I feel it go up into my brain.

Thanks for sharing that TI, but I just dont think that is clear light. Sure it is 'an experience' but clear light, at least in everything I have ever read about it is not some 'experience' of a substance or energy flowing out of your face... Sure I might be wrong, but show me some traditional teaching that says clear light is an energy that flows out of your face... I thought clear light was more like: How you perceive naturally when obscuration's are less present, as it has to do with the true nature of mind... I have experienced what I think was possibly clear light several times during dreaming. In each case the experience came on after my dream images suddenly dissolved into open aware luminosity. Each time, my mind and perceptions were suddenly 'open' empty, and full of clarity and luminosity... And i felt in those moments that I was experiencing the actual nature of mind... Also very blissful and heart moving, but so are lots of things. Unless you can show me something traditional that say clear light comes out of your face, I would say enjoy your experiences but dont jump to premature conclusions as to the nature of them...