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Dream Bliss, I am not devaluing your experience in any way, and if it came across as if, then i apologise. My point is, from reading your posts, it feels like you are trying to justify and convince yourself of speculative insights you have garnered thru intellectually probings into this profound practice (of sex transmutation/sublimation), whereas there are established practitioners who may have reached a different level of cultivation, and have valuable and practical methods to share for everyone's benefit. If acceptance is the level where you are at, and it works for you, then well and good, but don't forget that its an evolutionary process which does not end there, that there are subtler levels of application which lead to even greater and more lasting results. For you to assert that acceptance is the best way seems to me a bit limiting, and because of such tendencies to fixate on simply this as your ticket to freedom, you are closing up other possibilities - thats all I'm trying to convey to you. I don't see why you need to be so defensive if you truly believe in the workability of something as mundane as 'acceptance'. Turning an enemy into a friend does not mean free-fall indulgence in the activity of the enemy. It does not mean you go to the enemy's camp and surrender to the enemy's demands - what it should mean is to meet the enemy in the middle and show it that your virtue, knowledge, and discipline far exceeds its feeble activity, and in so doing, the enemy is converted into an ally that helps you to soar even higher on the path to freedom from the mundane.

Dream Bliss, Learning to utilise sexual energy for spiritual growth requires years of dedicated discipline and self-control, which, btw, is not the same as repression. You have jumped to conclusions hastily, and its clear why. You are right about repressive tendencies being negative, but it will perhaps surprise you to learn that acceptance does very little to root out those tendencies. You may also want to consider that your understanding of renunciation and a yogi's understanding of it may be different, and it would do you well to perhaps not jump to dismissive conclusions too quickly if you want to expand your openness to include the possibility that there are members here whose cultivation level far exceed yours, and such individuals may actually be able to integrate and utilise sex energies freely for enhancing their enlightenment potential without being told they are being pent-up and repressive, especially from one who attempts to grasp the subject speculatively, as you have here.

So I was out to buy food at restaurants near where I live, and I saw the Tao Bum again (from this post: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showto...&hl=tao+bum ) So I missed him because I had to order food, but I saw him again on my way back. So I spoke to him, I said "This may sound wierd, I remember you from _so_and_so_ and I'm wondering, why is it when I have a thought, you make those wierd motions? (didnt say wierd I imitated the action)" First he said "i don't know, thats just the way I go with things" then he spun around and backed away during the spin a little and said "For motivation" His voice sounded very clear to me. I looked at him in his eyes then and they looked very clear as well, the exact colour of the sky above (whereas they were darker in the rain when I met him as i remember), but I noticed fear coming up so then I looked away, at this point he asked "Anything else?" I said no, then I said "wait" and said, "by how you do things, it makes me think you know, you feel, something deeper" and I dont remember what I said after that, but he jsut said "i don't know" and left, I said good bye, take care, and good luck. I noticed as I turned away and left that the house in front of which we met had a statue of Buddha in front of it. I had a dream about a week back where this ivory-coloured eerie (yet somehow comforting) figure with circular eyes, mouth, and a fairly round body, and he may have had white-ivory clothes with red accents, sat beside me in class, and said "the buddha is busy in his office now, he will see you soon" I also looked at him at sort of the same way I looked at this man, then the figure disappeared from my dream. No individual thing has ever disappeared from my dreams as far as I can remember, just entire scene changes. It was a first, and interesting both in the form it took and the content. On my way home I was thinking and started peeling back concepts, as that seems to be what he was getting at, and where I am in my practice, and then I noticed a feeling in my chest coming through. Like what happened in this post: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=9916 With the realization of this new energy, my shoulders, groin, and thighs are now sore... Feeling in my body seems to be exposing pains that I can only assume have been there and unfelt from the past.. If you guys have any insight to shed on any of these things please feel free to do so.

I've been into yoga nidra lately. Mostly in the form of listening to yoga teachers audio's that bring one into a deep trance, work out san culpas/desires as well as move through opposites. Probably easier to experience then describe. Here's a very good source for free downloads - http://www.yoganidranetwork.org/downloads and another more informational - http://www.swamij.com/yoga-nidra.htm To the question of Tao.. some taoists I've spoken to were surprisingly against dream practices, at least doing them as a regular practice and rather saw sleep as a chance to go into a very deeply refreshing state. No work, just going deep and dark, not even any dreams!? In some ways maybe that is the most natural, the very essence of sleep, descent into a pure rest state.

That's why we are all here...in our 'journeying' to the Dao, the Source...until then experience multiple realities all at once. Physical/yang, dream/Yin, astral/emotional, mental/Mind, causal/karmic, and the spirit level which is the innermost layer that gives rises to the rest via the Mind. You are what you think. Now it is sad to see all the human suffering due to the institutionalisation of our society, which restricts the "spirit", stiffens the "liver" and people resort to various ways to overcome this (mind opening substances, various addictions, etc.) but in the end the are only deviating progressively further from the 'original nature/spirit' and learning little from past errors. It seems like a never ending journey as rebirth processes are long, 10-20 lifetimes probably for each big error and not always in a pleasant form. Existence is a terrific act for many 'souls' but I guess they are not aware of what is happening until their start to see things more clearly (wisdom through suffering and experience)...this can take up to several hundreds of lifetimes. I wish things were a lot easier for every single sentient being. This whole journeying is an agony, we quickly forget and start with a clean state after a new birth takes place...but memories are still there, stored in all the internal organs as karmas. In the meantime, just go with the flow. Probably for most of people posting here the life game doesn't sound too bad, does it? Peace and love to everyone...and 'happy' journeying. What matters the most is not what you do in the material plane but how well you manage to return to the 'original nature' and from there allow the opening to occur and return to the Tao. Taoist hermitage

I sometimes wonder about how necessary it is to do specific practices to cultivate the warmth vs simply allowing it manifest and blossom spontaneously. I've come across those to whom it seems to come easily and naturally. Some seem to have much more resistance. In the Mahayana, there are quite a few formal practices for developing this so I've got to imagine that the masters felt that the practices were necessary and valuable, at least for some. Cultivating bodhicitta has a very central role in the dzogchen methods both in the ngondro and in the more advanced, formal practice. Ultimately, the idea is that the bodhicitta is no longer a practice, but rather an expression of one's life. In my experience, the people who struggle with it tend to be those who are more focused on the intellectual study and not committed enough to the experiential practices. The key for me is the knowledge that I am the same as everyone else, on so many levels. All people want to be comfortable, secure, and avoid pain and other unpleasant experiences. There but for the workings of karma (or the grace of God, some like to say), I could be in any other person's situation. Everyone we meet has people who love them and that they love. Anyone could be our child, sibling, or parent. We all make foolish decisions. If you believe in reincarnation, everyone you meet has been your mother or son at some point. And so on... Most people are so deeply conditioned that they basically go through life like a robot, having very little possibility of waking up and making meaningful choices. It's like they're on a roller coaster and can't get off or change direction because they don't even know they're on it. So when they do something irritating or infuriating, I remind myself of the fact that they've not had the opportunity to awaken and grow beyond their social and cultural programming and I feel more sympathy and less anger. And it goes much, much deeper than that. We are truly and literally one indivisible organism-environmental system. No living organism has lived or will ever live outside of an environment. No environment is recognizable or identifiable as such in the absence of a perceptive organism. Not only do scientists recognize this but people who have direct non-dual experience do as well at an experiential level. Direct non-dual experience can lead one to absolute certainty regarding the connection of all sentient beings and this serves as the foundation of bodhicitta. If that happens, the day to day part is much easier. Otherwise, I do think there is value in the formal practices. The masters put a lot of emphasis on such practices so there's got to be some value there. I suspect that the more we practice these things, even if it feels artificial or contrived in the beginning, the more we become familiar with the real thing and the more like these things are to manifest in our lives. Beyond that, I think that it boils down to making the choice to be nice, be civil, be patient, and supportive. We can be as concerned with others achieving their objectives as we are at achieving our own. We can choose to serve others, rather than serve our own desires. So many different ways to work on this but it boils down to committing to the 4 immeasurables. First and foremost, accept them. They are unavoidable, at least for me, and I can only speak to what I know personally. Be kind to yourself when it happens, take it with a sense of humor rather than frustration. When I find myself worrying about something, I thank the narrator in my head for his concern. When I find myself getting distracted or carried along in my head for the thousandth time in an hour, I laugh at how ridiculously persistent that narrator is. When someone or something causes me to get off track, I remind myself that it has nothing to do with them, it is simply my misstep and an opportunity to continue to grow. One thing that can be very effective is to cultivate the ability to use the recognition of these 'destabilizations' as a cue. The first step of course is awareness, and once aware we simply need to reconnect and continue. The more habitual this becomes, the more quickly we are able to get back on track. If we link that cue to a specific practice, it can be very powerful. An example is the Tibetan practice of dream yoga. Not only is there a night time practice but the practice goes on 24/7. Throughout the day, whenever something generates a strong emotion or reaction we learn to use that as a cue to take certain measures that lead us toward becoming more effective in our dreaming practice. One way to practice this is these 3 steps: 1) recognize (that we have lost the connection), 2) reconnect (re-establish the mindful connection), and 3) continue (resume the practice, whatever that my be). Over time it improves but we really need some sort of fuel to drive that never-ending commitment, that's very challenging.

This idea was originally conceived within a Geocentric model of the world. But I think it can still serve as an (at least partial) explanation for Astrology, with some modifications. The ancient assumption was that an individual's soul core descends from the realm of the fixed stars through the planetary spheres from Saturn to the Moon, thereby acquiring an astroeides ochema or astral vehicle. In each sphere, the soul assimilates a specific kind of ether, thereby dressing itself in layer upon layer of astral matter. (It's easy to see the connection with the concept of the astral body and subtle bodies in general, respectively.) At the same time, the soul is imbued with corresponding "virtues" and "vices", in the terminology of the ancients. It eventually reaches Earth and incarnates in a physical body. After an incarnation has ended, the soul returns to the stellar realm, shedding the layers of subtle matter one by one while it again passes through the planetary spheres. This idea was first described by Macrobius in his Commentary on the Dream of Scipio. I am enjoying yours, too!

"In terms of benefiting yourself, when the time comes for your physical and mental aggregates to separate, you need the intention to shoot your consciousness like an arrow, straight to the target as you’ve planned. Without any hesitation, without looking back, take the attitude of looking forward to entering the pure land of Amitabha. As part of your motivation, look forward every day, as much as you can, to transferring your consciousness to the pure land. Also, whenever you practice, it’s important to increase your devotion. Devotion plants us firmly on spiritual ground and makes our realization grow and develop. Without devotion, the ground of our practice is shaky. If we’re not well-rooted, we can get blown off course. As soon as we’re confronted with a disruptive situation, if we don’t have strong devotion, our practice could simply fall apart. In order to make our life meaningful and fulfilling, we need to practice, and devotion is an essential ingredient. When you practice Phowa, cultivate devotion—particularly to Buddha Amitabha. Amitabha embodies all the buddhas of the three times and the ten directions. He is the embodiment of the dharmakaya, sambhogakaya, and nirmanakaya. Please feel in your heart that Buddha Amitabha is your true protector and support. While doing Phowa, meditate on yourself as Vajrayogini and feel the presence of Buddha Amitabha right above your head. Don’t see the place where you are as an ordinary place, but as a pure land. It’s the pure land of Amitabha, Guru Padmasambhava, Vajrayogini, and Yeshe Tsogyal. Bring all your outer perceptions and inner understanding back to the true nature, which is unaffected by dualistic thinking. Whenever we practice transferring our consciousness into the heart of Amitabha, at that moment we’re preparing ourselves to be in the pure land. We could think that Amitabha himself is the pure land. When we merge with his heart, we are in the middle of his pure land. When we practice full of devotion, longing, and confidence, we’re rehearsing and preparing to go there. We need the confidence that we’re going to his pure land so that we can keep moving forward on the spiritual path. We’re not going to be interrupted by the bardo. We’re making perfect preparations for the future. In our regular lives we make plans for the future—like investing in retirement funds, pension plans, and things like that. But this kind of preparation goes much further than a retirement plan. Preparing for Dewachen is very important and special. Please increase your courage and commitment to make this practice successful." ~ Venerable Khenpo Rinpoches The Essential Journey of Life and Death, Volume 2: Using Dream Yoga and Phowa as the Path (pgs 229-230)

Cheers for the advice Rob mate!! i'm fine now, it was a one day downer thing lol... to be honest i didn't know about the meditation/neigung thing in march.. very much doubt i'd be able to afford it anyway... i'll give alex a shout and see what the score is! Nungali, cheers to you too! very interesting what you say... my psychosis is solely based on 'false memory's' much like a powerful lucid dream... Peace

I'll get right to the point here. If your sub-concious isn't "purified" or "reprogrammed" in a way to where your still having sexual dreams at night. Is it even possible to preserve your essence? Has anybody found any links between avoiding certain physical actions and reducing the sexual dream content besides the obvious (watching pornography, continuing sexual engagement, or daydreaming/talking about sex) A natural level of lucidity seems to be developing in my dreams when the time comes and I find my dream self attempting to use physical means to stop this but it just spills anyways. Another observation I've made is that the more I practice the less time there is between my nocturnal emissions. Thanks for your posts,

oh man, i was hoping no one else would reply so i could ask for this to be deleted haha, embarrassing, was at a particular low point yesterday, but feel fine today! Songstan, that's great advice , cheers! i've been meaning to sort that out for a while now! will do bro! Nikolai1, thanks dude, actually i had a dream the other night where i was given a box with the label, 'knock from the unconscious' that when opened was a broken record or ekhat tolle reading the power of now... i have to take note of this!!! haha actually it wasn't women, it was a big bearded muslim guy at the checkout. I had no knowledge of kundalini at that time, it was only later i heard about all the esoteric stuff. I agree with your main message, to stay in the present thanks! about the drink, i did see a shaman about this... she came back with showing that it was me who sent a thought form into the drink which i drank back into myself... i've just had a hard time believing it... probably out of wanting to play the blame game etc and not being in the present! Rara, thanks mate! i've got a good support team right now, spiritual friends, tcm doc, etc etc am working with them to get grounded... have yin yang separation apparently. That was the thing, i ws supposed to go to a martial arts class yesterday,, until this massive downer hit me. Ok Soaring Crane, will do bro!! lol Thanks for help everyone... i'm still very embarrassed by my original post yesterday... i'm one of the lucky ones, shrinks =found nothing wrong with me last time, just a low mood... Peace out!

I once thought that I had woken up from a dream but I was not sure. To find out, I tried to fly but I all I got was a hop. But then I saw the same person in two different places; I laughed when I realized that I must be still dreaming. That's when I woke up for real. Or so I think.

I will attribute that to the flow of thoughts from the dream continuing while you are gaining consciousness after waking up. Yes, at that point in time we really don't know if we are dreaming or not. Schizophrenics are constantly plagued with that.

There are two approaches to sunya (emptiness). One is through thinking about how everything is inter-related and that the things you perceive (including yourself) only arise in dependence on other things as causes. Anything you can think of is made of parts, ephemeral and does not exist independently and autonomously. try to think of something that might exist out side of this and you can't really. So the conclusion is that every thing lacks a 'self' ... that is lacks a separate, individual, eternal, autonomous core or essence. From this you can get the idea that reality comprises a chain of causality where things appear to arise and cease in a state of mutual interdependence. Beyond this is the realisation of emptiness. This is the non-dual realisation sometimes called ultimate bodhicitta (awakened mind). Reality here is compared to a dream or a magical display, your perceptions on examination are found to lack solidity and the true nature of mind (as being empty) is revealed. This is beyond words really so it is hard to say more than this. But thinking about interdependence of things helps give you the right view to support access to this realisation.

"Every form of meditation must be based on our bodhichitta motivation and our awareness of original purity. These two are always essential. Bodhichitta is the foundation, and awareness of original purity is the inner structure of every practice. Watch out for distractions, such as wandering or discursive thoughts. These are a great hindrance to meditation. Keeping your spine straight, maintain a comfortable posture and let meditation deepen into a calm and clear state. Stay one-pointed, do not be distracted by conceptions, and continue maintaining your mind this way, whatever you’re meditating on. That’s basically it. As Guru Padmasambhava said, “No distractions, no grasping, and free of all aspects.” These three qualities are essential to every form of meditation. Right motivation and joyful effort are also indispensable. During meditation you will be faced with obstacles, clinging, compulsive thoughts and feelings, and other hindrances. To stay on target, meditate without distraction in the limitless expanse that transcends any territorial focus, the all-pervasive nature. Relaxing into this awareness is meditation. Gain mastery of both generation and completion stages. The division of meditation into creation stage and completion stage practices is unique to the schools of Vajrayana Buddhism. These are the means for becoming firm and strong in our meditation. Creation stage, or visualization practice helps us to understand the purity of all phenomena, including ourselves, so that everything is perceived as the buddha mandala. This mandala is not a solidly existent thing. It’s like a reflection, a mirage, a dream, or a rainbow. It is a wisdom display of clear light, the luminosity aspect of the true nature. Even in shorter Zhitro practices, all phenomena appear as the mandala of the peaceful and wrathful deities, and these deities dissolve into rainbow light; all speech and sounds are mantra, and all momentary thoughts are magical emanations of the open sky, space-like nature. This understanding characterizes the creation stage meditation. This means that you are relatively free of clinging, holding, and grasping to self and phenomena, and that you are skilled at merging with the true nature beyond all bias and limitations, where no dualities exist. Relaxing into this state of innate purity is known as the completion or perfection stage practice." Venerable Khenpo Rinpoches The Essential Journey of Life and Death, Vol. 1: The Indestructible Nature of Body, Speech, and Mind (pgs119-120)

Been looking in Michigan and you can pick up 10 remote acres for 10 grand. Dome homes are pretty cheap.... about 5 grand a piece. All told 20 grand to start and have your newbies bring their own structure to leave there as a "gift" such as those cool teepee things or a yurt. This could seriously be done on the cheap. You would need only one structure to start and as the newbies come just build more. I saw a website for something called an earthworks home made of sandbags that was partially underground that was really cozy and cost 2 grand. The hardest part is a reason newbies would come. Back in the day there was the Tai Chi Farm that was a live in place with a famous Tai Chi author acting as the mentor for the place. It attracted thousands but it definately wasn't a commune! It was more of a Tai Chi Retreat with full time people acting as staff members who lived on site and ran a sort of Bread and Breakfast, plus seminars and a yearly festival. The guy died in a car accident at 80+ years old and the Farm was sold. mewtwo, dont give up on the dream and its my dream too! You've fired my imagination again! Thanks!

I've got 6 objectives each day (maybe 6D? ) that i check off as i go. one of which i cannot check off until the next day. Every morning, i attempt to write down my dreams; or as much as i can remember, i record my dreams and check that one off. [x] Dream Every day i spend as much time as i can meditating, either with conscious intent (american) or with complete emptiness (genuine). i dont always check off that box even if i do meditate. i try to only check it off when i am clear minded and reposed in emptiness. However, if i have consulted the Yi Zhing about anything, i will accept thought-meditation and check it off if i feel i've come upon a revelation or clarity. [x] Meditate I'm finally getting back into the habit of morning stretches first-thing-first (or second if i dreamed ) [x] Stretch [ ] Circles: I havent been walking the circle every day, and i am working toward filling this box every day. on days i do less than 15 minutes (my personal mandatory minimum) i'll put a small dot in that box to indicate i fucked with it even if i didnt work with it. [x] Fan Zhang: I've gotten pretty good at getting my mandatory minimum of 15 every day. but i still have a lot of days i miss. and the last one might not even be necessary - i am not really sure how much i need to - but for self-control practice, i attempt to retain. Semen retention is REALLY hard ( ) and i have only had roughly 2 out of 8 days of success, at best. But good god how much more energy on subsequent days after success... squandered

Yes I has been on Juan Li's dream practice workshop but unfortunately I was to sick to have anyting else then an intellectual enjoyment. On the other hand I has also been on a dream workshop hold by Merilyn Tunneshende (Toltec sorceress) with the same physical condition but in my opinion her way to approch this subject was very similar.

If you need to meditate all the time to become immortal then you won't really have an individualized personality anyway. It is like in Hinduism - the Atma (your personal soul) merges with Brahman (the impersonal God-soul). As Chunyi said - his body/mind is just an empty vessel for the healing energy to go through. It is the Emptiness itself that is doing the healing through him. So obviously the more you focus on the Emptiness then the less of an individual personality you have. This means the lower emotions are harmonized into "unconditional love" energy. For example Jim Nance said that Chunyi said watching t.v. causes too strong of blockages. Jim said that the internet causes too strong of blockages. So the advanced practice requires cutting back on what would be considered more individualistic types of information. Qigong master Yan Xin says an immortal is anyone who can go without food. So a ghost immortal - speaking from experience - is the ability to go without food but still being dependent on getting energy from other people - even if you also send out energy. The normal person does just become a ghost but as Buddhism teachers - if the person was good then they go to heaven and if bad they go to hell. What does that mean? If they are controlled by their lower emotions then they go to hell - because their spirit-vitality is stuck in the lower body. In Tibet the Buddhist monks actually feel what part of the body gets cold last - if the lower body gets cold last after death that means the person went to hell. Taoism is more focused on the immediate - so if a person is controlled by the lower body then they are in hell already while being alive. If you have a precognitive dream or vision it is more real with stronger perceptions than while being awake. So that means that physical reality is a type of lower astral realm already - a type of hell actually since more people are still controlled by their lower emotions. The original human culture focused on healing people based on the ghosts of the dead as the main cause of sickness since those ghosts are still controlled by their lower emotions and so they also spread sickness. So in that case it is a kind of self-reinforcing cycle of ghost pollution causing more humans to be controlled by their lower emotions to turn into more ghosts stuck on Earth, getting reincarnated into a lower emotional energy cycle of Nature. The original human culture required all the males to train to be spiritual healers of the females but the original spiritual masters were female since females are yang internally and Nature overall is female.

Back in 97-98 I was smoking a joint out of my bedroom window (quit smoking now), and i noticed a fox was staring up at me from the street. It's eyes seemed to penetrate something within me and my eyes started to burn. Didn't think much of it until recently. On the night of the millennium, i remember walking in a park and seeing foxes dancing with each other under the moonlight... there was something really magical in a way about it. About 8 years ago, i started hearing foxes every time i tried to pray. This was after a couple of strong experiences with Spirit/God and an encounter with someone quite special during which i made a promise which i subsequently broke. Now years later i'm suddenly seeing the word fox or a photo of a fox, or actual foxes everywhere i go. Sometimes i force myself awake out of a profound dream which i don't remember only to hear loud fox cries. And recently the past few days while practicing stm neigong, i hear the foxes outside on the street. Really don't know what to make of it all. A friend suggested it might be a spirit guide, i'm not sure because i don't know much about them, only a little about power animals. But i've seen the numerology to the number 666 is FOX. There is more to it, but i can't write it on a public forum... except that i sometimes see fox imagery as i'm falling asleep. Any idea? Peace.

We train the mind such that it simply realises its own nature. As Jowo Jé Palden Atisha (982-1054 CE) states: “Of all that we perceive as forms and sounds there is nothing that does not arise in the mind. To realise that the mind is awareness indivisible from emptiness is the View. Keeping this realisation in mind at all times, and never being distracted from it, is Meditation. To practice the two accumulations (merit and wisdom) as a magical illusion from within that state is Action. If you make a living experience of this practice, it will continue in your dreams. If it comes in the dream state, it will come at the moment of death. And if it comes at the moment of death, it will come in the intermediate state. If it comes in the intermediate state, you may be certain of attaining the supreme accomplishment.”

Thought this video would be appropriate for this discussion. 9G8WEVTcFM0 Lyrics to Right Where It Belongs : See the animal in it's cage that you built Are you sure what side you're on? Better not look him too closely in the eye Are you sure what side of the glass you are on? See the safety of the life you have built Everything where it belongs Feel the hollowness inside of your heart And it's all Right where it belongs [Chorus:] What if everything around you Isn't quite as it seems? What if all the world you think you know Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection Is it all you wanted to be? What if you could look right through the cracks? Would you find yourself Find yourself afraid to see? What if all the world's inside of your head Just creations of your own? Your devils and your gods All the living and the dead And you really are alone You can live in this illusion You can choose to believe You keep looking but you can't find the woods While you're hiding in the trees [Chorus:] What if everything around you Isn't quite as it seems? What if all the world you used to know Is an elaborate dream? And if you look at your reflection Is it all you wanted to be? What if you could look right through the cracks Would you find yourself Find yourself afraid to see?

Ironically spending time looking at a computer screen and caring about others opinions and what they think is also a source of leakage. In the scheme of things are hours in front of the computer better or worse then an nocturnal emission? <at least the nocturnal emission gives us a really great dream>

This is what I have to say about the Kundalini energy experience. They belong to the realm of senses and Samsara. Sorry. If anything, the blissfulness one experiences with the energy belongs to the first jhana, or the first stage of Samadhi. Your mind becomes ecstatic about your sense of wholeness and that yang chi feeling burning through your body. By the fourth jhana, even the flow of chi in your body would stop. Your mind would no longer pay attention to it. So, don't get fixated on the kundalini energy because the blissful experience is supposedly to be temporary. For LifeForce, move on. Don't get fixated on these female deities. I saw Kali too (black skin with a wicked red tongue and multiple arms) and I and her were apparently having sex---like she was on top of Shiva. Hehehehe.... I wasn't fixated on her but I spent few weeks trying to understand her on the spiritual and conceptual levels. I believe I saw Tara too (female deity with multiple arms with a pair of scissors) but I associated her on the spiritual and wisdom levels. Apparently, she used a scissor to cut open a blanket which was over my head and to predict tragedies about to fall on humanity in 2014. I was crying in the dream because she was forcing me to see the world. 2014 was a tragic year for the world. Of course, did the Kundalini energy rise up naturally or were you using drugs at that time. This is important because a naturally occurring kundalini energy experience would indicate merit in your wisdom and mental thoughts. If induced by drugs, once the experience is gone and it will, your mind has nothing to fall back on.

If LoA worked consistently some of us would be lottery millionaires by now. Still trying for that here. Nothing so far - but a boy can dream. If something works for you though DreamBliss then go with it and best wishes for all success to you on the journey.