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My Secret Map of Tasmania I was given a plane ticket to Tassie by my family for my birthday one year, as they thought I was working too hard at the time. I had no particular thoughts of a plan at the time, but I had this dream one night where I dreamt of a map of Tasmania. It had a dot on it, like one would find on an actual map, but the map was rotating in my dream & I had to focus to keep my eye on the exact location of the dot. In the morning when I awoke, I got out a map and found what I thought was the location that I had seen in my dream. Redpa. It was written in bold, and so I thought it was going to be a large township, and decided then & there, my trip was going to be a dreamquest. It had to do with connecting with the ancestral spirit of the Aboriginal peoples I was sure, envisioning a greeting given to me by the gathered elders of "We've been expecting you" upon arrival. After arriving in Hobart, I drove to Staughn, then up to the north west of the island. Excited that I was near my destination, I turned my hired campervan at the sign with the township's name on it, drove past a few houses and a school to arrive at an unsigned T intersection which seemed to go to nowhere in particular. Hmmm, I thought to myself (to exclamate my dumbfoundedness). Where is my dreamtown? Thinking synchronicity would be on my side, I checked out the houses along the street and picked the one that appealed to me most. It had a moat around the house. I gathered my courage and traversed the drawbridge, well, just a few planks to be honest, and rapped my knuckles on the weather worn fly screen door. The front door itself was open & the house inside was messy and I could see through to the back. There were sounds of children clamoring in the distance. A lady in her mid 30's answered the door. She was happy in the way that Tasmanians can be happy with no particular reason to account for it. I asked her sincerely, could you please tell me the way to get to Redpa, there is no sign on which way to turn at the end of the street. She replies, "No, this is Redpa". I then enquired about where the centre of town may be. "No, this is Redpa" she repeats as I now understand, she had been referring to the street alone. Somewhat flummoxed at this slight quirk in my dreamquest, I mentally backpedalled & stammered "so.... what's life like in Redpa?" and many other such lame questions, fishing for some dreamquest related info, and where are the aboriginal elders may be found near this town. We stumbled on self sufficiency as a topic, and she relayed how the man up on the corner makes his own interesting everythings then sells them at the market, and the family down the road grows their own everything on their property. As a matter of fact, she is just about to head on down there now with the kids for lunch and asked if I would like to come along & meet them. The old guy was out in the paddock fixing a fence & was short worded & suspicious of me. I dont suppse they get many out of towners "just passing through". He had a bad back & relayed the story of how he had a massive disc prolapse a few years back & was told he would never be able to walk again as he downed his tools and made his way towards the sheds & pens. Made of steel this bloke seemed to be. In them he had pigs, sheep, goats, chickens, pigeons, & rabbits, right next to a pretty impressive vege patch. He talks me through a few tidbits & a bit of know how on keeping these animals, and invites me to come in for lunch as he washes up. 4 hours later, after talking shop with his wife & guests, & graciously sampling everything they had made on the premises from cheeses, breads, jams, salamis, and what I told him was the finest home brew I have ever tasted in my life (and I have quite extensive experience in this field), he discloses to me that he is a direct descendent of James Boag himself! Whoa, my dreamquest vision was about beer! I politely refused another beer & the request to stay there for dinner, as I had to make it to a known big wave location for a quick peek before sundown, and then that I had to be back in Hobart (450km away) by morning for an exploration of Tassies wild Southwest, around the Bathurst Lakes area. They didnt express that I might be a tad ambitious. There were no waves there, but lo & behold, an aboriginal presence, particularly in regards to old campsites & dugouts. I caught wind of a reserve and jumped in the van. Night was falling. I was driving fast down long sand tracks, the tea trees were in flower everywhere, so much so that it looked like I was driving through the snow. There is a building of some description as I reach the reserve. The folks there are closing down for the night, finishing off their game of cards, and about to head home. There is no connection there, no real acknowledgement, no "we have been expecting you" or "you're late", just a nonchelant passing appreciation that I would like to enter the reserve and that they had no issue with it. I followed the track down hillsides & embankments until I found a good vantage point, stopped & got out of the vehicle. Silencio. I was in the middle of fucking nowhere, all on my own, and there was a spread of stars across the sky like I had never seen before, a fucund moon rising above the water of the north coast, and an amazing vibe coming from all the natural landscape that was surrounding me. I was soooo excited by it all, I was having an internal one man party. Stayed on for a few hours. I made it halfway to Hobart that night, slept on the side of the road, & was delirious the whole of the following day during our expedition, and took an amazing array of photos through my dreamlike lenses. Think I travelled 1300km in 36 hrs to make it all happen, but who wouldnt do that to have a beer with James Boag's great grandson? I'm getting thirsty now, better go & stock the fridge. (Edit: sorry, posted the wrong story previously, this is an Aussie yarn with Aussie inuendo, but hope it comes across well enough as a story)

Excellent move away from what you repeatedly express that you neither enjoy nor find useful! Perfect use of ignore function, to avoid repetetive fruitless activation! Self moderation is not just a utopian dream!!

If an enlightened person were asked if they were awake to the dream of the 6 senses, and said no, they are awake. For such a Truth Realized being would not spew such a dishonesty. Most today would not recognize an enlightened person if they saw one,...the faith and belief-based seek faith and belief, and would thus desire to kill an enlightened being. "Anyone who gives you a belief system is your enemy"...and certainly not enlightened. You can recognize a truth realized being by the fact that they are intolerant of anything that steps between a sentient being and their direct experience.

one of my dreams is/was to own a large property and build up a self sufficient organization using only what is available on/off the land, and inviting people out to live with me and form a nice community of hippies and free thinkers... of course it'll all be pretty labor intensive, so i dunno how the elderly will be handling this dream of mine, though i do hope taijiquan and qi gong will benefit them as much as i do hope

Hi ॐDominicusॐ Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of that. I appreciate it. Yes, I found that one too. I've watched myself sleep, watch the mind churn and dreams occur from a third person point of view for a total of about three weeks. It's hard to get used to that. I'd prefer to have a normal sleep. But, most mornings now, I'm aware of my self before I wake up. Is that what you call those? I've seen visions of these rectangles of colored light, like geometric patterns. They are very pretty and remind me of archetypes. I've never thought that they were mandalas. No, I don't think so. I was capable of thinking so I suspect my coarse consciousness dissolved into the substrate and then the subtle consciousness in the substrate consciousness (alaya) took over and that is what experienced the experience. No, it wasn't the Aerial Toll House. I didn't meet any angels or see any demons at that time.. There was no other presence there. However, I have had multiple dreams when I was a kid about flying over a sea of naked 'reddish dirty' people in a place of rock, fire and semi-darkness, all standing up. The few times that I flew over them too closely, they'd grab me and try to hold me down. Really freaked me out. I don't know what released me, but I'm glad that it did.. I think the astral/mental/causal bodies qualify as a bodies. Otherwise, why would angels and other beings appear, helping people on earth? Have you found the place at the base of the skull, somewhere near the medulla where, if you focus on it, your breathing stops dead? I have found such a place but I'm afraid. I've heard in Taoist writings that there are certain points you have to stay away from, otherwise it may kill you.. Didn't want to get rid of the body just yet. I have experienced the 'point of view' totally separate from the body, mind, dreams etc.. Most mornings, before I wake, I am like that. Just this tiny little point of view, everything is dark and not much is happening.. I can see the little cloud of thoughts in the mind churning, the dream world appearing separately, I can hear myself snore and watch the body. The point of view is from about 2 feet above the body.. I've always thought that it was the point of view from the astral body, floating above.. but now I'm not sure.. Yes, I know what you mean.. I know that I once lived in India, when they had steam locomotives (ha, maybe they still do? -no offense to anyone). I spent allot of time in this wooden square building that was three stories high and the middle of the room was wide open. People would sit around the balconies and have debates of some kind. But I don't remember much about it. Gee, I was just listening to James Swartz's youtube and he has described the same thing that I've experienced several times now.. I call them 'satori moments'. Funny, I don't think that that is any basis to declare 'enlightenment'. Do you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uvp6qRQwSE He also has had an experience of coming out of the third eye and becoming everything (while taking a shower). This is not so hard to do. If you train your awareness to move around and expand into the surroundings, occaisionally you notice that you really do seem to be the car, or the tree or become the person whom you focus on. I don't think that qualifies as enlightenment. I think it is just a taste of the localized third eye action, some kind of astral projection, especially because he maintained a singular entity-like point of view, not one that is simultaneous and all-encompassing (includes all the infinite planes). I do recall that Yogananda Paramhansa Yogi had a similar experience to the one Swartz describes.. But who am I to say. Here is James Swartz's list of gurus: http://www.shiningwo.../About Me 1.htm Hmm. I'm thinking Swartz's understanding is not so great.. In this video, he claims that everything, all actions in the universe, is controlled by vasanas and samskaras, even in the high gurus like Sai Baba and others.. I thought enlightenment was being free from vasanas and samskaras. They should have all been burnt away. If they aren't then that is not the real thing. Is it? Well, he is entertaining anyway.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcFwgPzQ_rY TI

Isn't this the most wondrous lesson to learn in life? To do by Not Doing? This mindset removes all anxiety from anything, as far as I can see. Making one's self available in basic conscious awareness. What you describe as the Great Mystery could also be called Latency. I always go back to the Oak being in the Acorn. The blueprint is there always. The manifestation takes its time. Your observations about the relativity of our senses in comparison to external objects is wonderful. A rock is hard because our skin is soft - so nicely and simply said. Looking at page 33, there is a paragraph: "This space, since it cannot be injured, is invulnerable. Since space cannot be conqured or destroyed, it isi ndestructible. Since space abides as the basis for the unfolding of the world of appearances and possibilities, it is authentic. Since space cannot be altered by flaws or positive qualities, it is incorruptible. Sicne space is free of transition or change, it is stable. Since space completely permeates even the tiniest sub-atomic particle, it is in all ways unobstructed. and since nothing whatsoever can damage it, space is in all ways invincible." As I was reading this, it reminded me of a balloon (or, if you prefer, a bellows, as it would say in the TTC) The balloon is there whether or not there is air in it. It is by breath inflating the balloon that manifestations take their rise. I sometimes think of the universe (as produced by the big bang) as being the other side of a white dwarf. Maybe the universe just breathes its manifestations in and out. This is an interesting paragraph (page 47). "You may think that the relative validity of dream images is not equal to that of waking appearances. But think of all the dream experiences and waking experiences from your birth until the present - the activities and occupations, the effort and striving, the saving and planning. Consider whether these are equal. If you examine them closely, without considerering the short term versus the long term or more versus fewer occurrences of such experiences, you will arrive at the decision that they are equal." This seems to be saying that our dreams and our physical life are one and the same. I guess they would be - it's all thought ! All we have to do to understand this is to remove the concept of time and the concept of quantity (more vs. fewer) to see that this is the case. We spend 'more' of our 'time' in the waking hours. We sit at the intersection of Time and Space to experience manifestation. Note: Actually, I'm finding that trying to follow the outline is a little cumbersome. I've taken to just picking out interesting paragraphs in the book

Sorry you're going through some trying times. I don't know if there's a 'proper' way to do any of it (and I certainly wouldn't caution the Kubler-Ross 'stages') I dealt with it just at the end of last year and it's been very mixed. The person was very ill, very loved by me. I felt I had to 'support' a lot of the other people and didn't really get a chance without them there to do it 'my way'. Practice was helpful in dealing with the other people but not with myself. I can understand the 'indulgence' of sadness but there's IMO/IME a clear difference between that and the actual grief. At the time he passed, I had some very strange experiences of being in communication with him in a dream. I might get around to sharing that in the PPF at some point.

Yes, I noticed it... unfortunately I do not have internet in my house, and probably miss some precious posts since I do not access everyday. But I was lucky this time due to your actions! ----------------------- About stopping some aspects of the practice... It is important to note that I do not feel cold during the practice... I feel fine.. it is just my skin that become cold. I used to have alot of night emissions, but lacked sexual vigour. Afetr practicing the Kidney strengthening, I noticed that the emission ceased... I still dream with women and having intercourse with them, but I do not ejaculate, and I noiced that, even though I am not having emissions, I wake up with an erection more often, so I guess that the Kidney Stregnghthening is really helping me to preserve My Yin and Yang in Kidney, since I was having up to 3 ejacs or more a weak, with no control.. I was in dispair!... During the Kidney Strengthening exercices I felt alot of Heat and even sweating. The feeling of cold happens more often ater I go to sleep. please Friend... I am not discarting you precious post, I am just extending the discussion further more. Cheers.

thanks for the reminder SJ. i appreciate it, and agree. Further, the words and logic that madhyamakas use to define "existant" "nonexistant" and all the other designations inherent in that logic are all imputed terms. At the ultimate level, once a person breaks through the shell of delusion and sees that reality is not unlike a dream, everything you could say or think is imputation. So all that buddhist logic is nice and helpful to many, but to some, it is like pages and pages of fingers pointing, but no moon. The moon only appears when one can put all the discursive activity down... in other words i have never heard of anyone thinking themselves to liberation. Its not something you can share directly through books. And while i agree that science is inherently materialist, i would say that there is nothing wrong with understanding the material world and how it works. Its just not the end-all-be-all... not the full equation.. as fringe science happily acknowledges. Quantum physics confirms the observations of the buddhas, and if it didn't i would have as hard a time "being buddhist" as i would with being a fundamentalist christian who thinks that dinosaur fossils are tests of faith and that the world is 5000 years old, was created in 7 days, etc. I can't do that tho, i can't be that. You can take this or leave it, but my root lama has taught me that there is a reality, and that we need to pay attention to it, to connect with it, to understand it as best we can. It might be a fleeting mirage, but dismissing it without recognizing it at our true self, the sacred vajra mandala, and treating is as such (somewhat sacred) is a cop-out. He's a prasangika, and dismisses view that stops at svatantrika emptiness, but i see the sense in what he is trying to impart, and i have been influenced by him to respect, revere, and observe reality as a student, not to dismiss it outright as unreal and thereby unimportant. lastly, i don't take you as saying that reality is unimportant, that is not in direct response to you. Its just a commonly held "buddhist" viewpoint that reality is unreal, illusory, and thats the end of the logical process. According to madhyamaka, that is an extreme point of view, and no different than saying reality is real. So the truth of the vajra world is neither of those extremes, and shouldn't be seen as important or unimportant, sacred or profane... that is what madhyamaka teaches, a way beyond words and concepts, but it doesn't mean that gravity isn't relevant, or that you should step out in front of a bus because the bus lacks inherent existence. Those sorts of things are for the fully realized, or at least who have awakened the power of flying about or teleportation... until i get there, i feel like understanding the laws of the world has relevance.

I have been doing a lot of journaling lately... Writing down dreams upon waking, in order to remember them better, and also to go back and see how it correlated to daily life. Sorting thoughts. Making a daily list of things to do, and simply doing one thing at a time (helps to not get overwhelmed)...soon enough it's all done, and I am free for a lot of time. Making a weekly or longer term list, and once each thing is done, erase it...when the time comes to work on it, add it to the daily list. Lists of career necessities, exercise things to get and things to try to do, self improvement steps, etc... Here is how I've been doing work with goals... 1) Problem board. Write down all issues in life...every single problem. Be totally honest. Sort them out by category (career, relationships, etc). 2) Solution board. Write down all possible solutions to those issues, in each category. If there isn't a solution, that's fine, because there is the... 3) Dream board. Write down all dreams, however unrealistic. What is the ideal life I would live, if nothing could hold me back? Whereas the problem board focuses on the totally negative, the dream board focuses on the purely positive. 4) Do it board, or 'action board'. Write down all realistic steps toward accomplishing the solutions and dreams. This is the most important one. This is what I do my actual work from. "God helps those who help themselves." 5) If-then board. Write down options for if the actions fail, what your plan B or C will be. I think pretty much no goal can escape from this process... I also do the thing where you go over how the day went, and ask specific pointed questions...with the intention to improve character from doing some reflection. Along the same lines, I have contemplation where I write out the ideal person that I want to be. Similar to a vision board, but only for character. I do a little bit of law of attraction work...where if I have a "dream" of something I want in life, I will write down about imagining it being reality already. Focusing on the feelings of already having it...such as "it feels great, I am so blessed" etc. Making it a very positive feeling can at times make it happen in life. Basically...writing things down is a process of turning chaos into order. Life will start to flow much more smoothly for people that do it. It worked for me. (I should keep a journal that I date, and keep. I tend to erase all things. But I think keeping it may help cultivate memory, or at least a better sense of the past, which would be good for me)

All philosophical and religious positions revolve around only 2 views: Existence and Nonexistence. However its all illusion, like a dream. Phenomena don't arise in the first place. Nagarjuna in ''Mūlamadhyamakakārikā'' 21.12. states: "An existent does not arise from an existent; neither does an existent arise from a non-existent. A non-existent does not arise from a non-existent; neither does a non-existent arise from an existent." http://books.google.com/books?id=38WJRwP3nLgC&pg=PA297&dq=Mulamadhyamakakarika+of+Nagarjuna+An+existent+does+not+arise+from+an+existent;+neither+does+an+existent+arise+from+a+non-existent.&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fnGiUtuWMPPMsQSzkIDwCA&ved=0CDgQuwUwAQ#v=onepage&q=Mulamadhyamakakarika%20of%20Nagarjuna%20An%20existent%20does%20not%20arise%20from%20an%20existent%3B%20neither%20does%20an%20existent%20arise%20from%20a%20non-existent.&f=false Here are some quotations from 2 top books, Nagarjuna's Reason Sixty and Center of the Sunlit Sky: "Nagarjuna taught , "bereft of beginning, middle, and end," meaning that the world is free from creation, duration, and destruction." -Candrakirti "Once one asserts things, one will succumb to the view of seeing such by imagining their beginning, middle and end; hence that grasping at things is the cause of all views." -Candrakirti "the perfectly enlightened buddhas-proclaimed, "What is dependently created is uncreated." -Candrakirti "Likewise, here as well, the Lord Buddha’s pronouncement that "What is dependently created is objectively uncreated," is to counteract insistence on the objectivity of things." -Candrakirti "Since relativity is not objectively created, those who, through this reasoning, accept dependent things as resembling the moon in water and reflections in a mirror, understand them as neither objectively true nor false. Therefore, those who think thus regarding dependent things realize that what is dependently arisen cannot be substantially existent, since what is like a reflection is not real. If it were real, that would entail the absurdity that its transformation would be impossible. Yet neither is it unreal, since it manifests as real within the world." -Candrakirti Nagarjuna said "If I had any position, I thereby would be at fault. Since I have no position, I am not at fault at all." Aryadeva said "Against someone who has no thesis of “existence, nonexistence, or [both] existence and nonexistence,” it is not possible to level a charge, even if [this is tried] for a long time." "I do not say that entities do not exist, because I say that they originate in dependence. “So are you a realist then?” I am not, because I am just a proponent of dependent origination. “What sort of nature is it then that you [propound]?” I propound dependent origination. “What is the meaning of dependent origination?” It has the meaning of the lack of a nature and the meaning of nonarising through a nature [of its own]. It has the meaning of the origination of results with a nature similar to that of illusions, mirages, reflections, cities of scent-eaters, magical creations, and dreams. It has the meaning of emptiness and identitylessness." -Candrakirti Nagarjuna in Mūlamadhyamakakārikā 1.1. states: "Not from themselves, not from something other, Not from both, and not without a cause- At any place and any time, All entities lack arising." Buddhapālita comments (using consequentalist arguments which ultimately snowballs into Tibetan prasangika vs. svatantrika): "Entities do not arise from their own intrinsic nature, because their arising would be pointless and because they would arise endlessly. For entities that [already] exist as their own intrinsic nature, there is no need to arise again. If they were to arise despite existing [already], there would be no time when they do not arise; [but] that is also not asserted [by the Enumerators]. Candrakīrti, in ''Madhyamakāvatāra'' VI.14., comments: "If something were to originate in dependence on something other than it, Well, then utter darkness could spring from flames And everything could arise from everything, Because everything that does not produce [a specific result] is the same in being other [than it]." Candrakīrti, in the ''Prasannapadā'', comments: "Entities also do not arise from something other, because there is nothing other." Nagarjuna in ''Mūlamadhyamakakārikā'' 1.3cd. states: "If an entity in itself does not exist, An entity other [than it] does not exist either." Candrakīrti, in the ''Prasannapadā'', comments: "Nor do entities arise from both [themselves and others], because this would entail [all] the flaws that were stated for both of these theses and because none of these [disproved possibilities] have the capacity to produce [entities]." Nagarjuna, in ''Mūlamadhyamakakārikā'' VII.17., states: "If some nonarisen entity Existed somewhere, It might arise. However, since such does not exist, what would arise?" Nagarjuna, in ''Mūlamadhyamakakārikā'' VII.19cd., states: "If something that lacks arising could arise, Just about anything could arise in this way." Candrakīrti, in ''Madhyamakāvatāra'' VI.151., comments: "It is not asserted that a chariot is something other than its parts. It is not something that is not other, nor does it possess them. It does not exist in the parts, nor do the parts exist in it. It is neither their mere collection nor the shape—thus is the analogy." Candrakirti, in "Madhyamakavatara" VI.23., defines ultimate and relative truth "The object of perfect seeing is true reality And false seeing is seeming reality."

I agree Do you think that what one person calls a fantasy or dream can be considered realistic by another person, I find often I am creating/creative thoughts, a so called realistic minded person would say I live in the clouds or am delusional, but from my perspective they are stuck in their own limitations. What is your own opinion of this, or did you mean something else by fantasies and delusions such as conspiracy theories (which might be right?)...

Shangri-La The Children of the Law of One & the Lost Teachings of Atlantis by Jon Peniel free onine books, meditation techniques gadgets, atlantis The CLO (Children of the Law of One) was one of, or maybe even the first spiritual order on earth, and the energy practices are the original energy practices. Most major religions have their roots in a teacher of the CLO , although most people who followed or now follow the religion would not usually know the founder was a CLO monk/teacher. Shargung La is the final place where the Children of the Law of One retreated to after the final destruction of Atlantis in 10,500 BC, they also went to Egypt, the Pyrenees, and the Yucatan. Many energy and meditation practices originate from Tibetan mountains and even the Shargung La area in Tibet, a subtropical warmer area inside the deepest gorge in the world amidst the freezing Himalayas. Though the Shargung La Monastery was attacked and destroyed, and many monks were killed in 1990, there are still some monks and guides in the area even though modern science thought that humans had never lived there. It is such a remote area it did not show up even on satellite images. From The Chicago Tribune News Service, January 8, 1999, Explorers find Elusive Shangri-La- Explorers Find Elusive Shangri-la in Tibet Account of an explorers description of the area- http://www.railrider...angri-a-14.html From the teachings of the great Atlantean Priest King Thoth who lead an exodus to Egypt indicating Shangri La is a real place on Earth where people live. Also known as Hermes Trismegistus A Hyper-History of the Emerald Tablet Thoth the Atlantean, Tablet 15 The Emerald Tablets of Thoth Tablet 15 Painting of the Himalayas by Jon Peniel monk or the Children of the Law of One Order- spirituality articles The Explorer accounts Gyala Peri (23,891') - This mountain has never been climbed. Namcha Barwa (25,436') - Known to the Tibetans as the "Blazing Mountain of Celestial Metal". Konla Karpo (22,339') Skies clear revealing Namcha Barwa (25,436'), to the far left on the Indian continent and Gyala Peri (23,891'), to the far right on the Asian continent. Only approximately 12 miles apart, the world's deepest gorge (17,758') lies between these two great mountains. The formidable Dorje Bragsen (pron. Droksen - drok = rock) mountain (12,818'), stands guard in the middle ground protecting the entrance into this most elusive and sacred "Inner Gorge". (This is the first photograph ever taken of these geologic formations from this eastern direction.) Studying possible ascent routes up the guardian mountain Dorje Bragsen (left) - Gyala Peri (23,891') - (center) stands luminous above the unrevealed "Inner Gorge". Swallowed in the clouds trying to locate the elusive route into the hidden "Inner Gorge". local takin hunter on trail. The Buddhist Shaman had his dream. The Westerners can be taken up and over the sacred guardian protector mountain - Dorje Bragsen. The beginning of our climb - note the expedition, dwarfed in the bottom left of the photograph.

im usually the last person to know something about me O_o!!! hell, tell ya what, everyone ELSE sure thinks they know why i am a failure at life, still single, and have no kids! just ask them, they'll tell ya! It's my facial hair, or my hair is too long, or i dont have a job, or i dont have a car. i've heard them all. Only thing i havent heard is a genuine 100% true "i love you" from a significant other. i stopped trying to find somethign taht doesnt exist outside teh movies. I thought, at first, "let it come to me". but if "it" doesnt exist, i will be waiting for my life to start until i die. so i guess it is a lose-lose situation. I gave up on other people, not on my hopes of having a family..... problem is, other peopel are kind of required in the deal... and so far, the only valid people i meet are online, mostly HERE on TTB! All you ladies here would peobably be worthwhile company. The girls in my life? Not so much..... irritatingly self centered most often than not. ... or taken/married/etc... Or related XD I had a dream come true once... well until it turned out she wanted nothing to do with me.... never even dated, but to this day, i cant shake her face, or the dream where i "first met" her.... It's THAT which inspires suicide more than anything..... god's got a sick sense of humor! edit: response II: Shen, there isnt a "dont like" button. no offense lol cuz i really DONT LIKE "patience"! LOL being paitent means: Letting your dreams and hopes dissolve between your fingertips, letting "bubba" have his wy with you in the cell, letting "them" have your every desire and want, never complaining about how FUCKED you are, and alwys smiling when life tells you to bend over and take it up the ass... I cant do any of those things, that is why i am not patient.

so is it a coincidence that the three of you who seem to love leftist political points of view are pretty much the only three around here saying it is preposterous to question the official story on this...oh, but wait, you can ask questions,...but hey, cant follow any of those crazy conspiracy theories... like I said, we've been presented with an "official" story that clearly contains fabricated elements, it prompts one to question when one sees "a glitch in the matrix," as it were.........."did my eyes deceive me, or was I just bullshitted?" my bullshit meter has throughout my life woken me from any dream that didnt add up. it is the nature of it to question an inconsistent story.

Long ago someone told me this in a dream -- "Sarvaiva hridayam, sadaiva hridayam" (Everything is Heart, Forever is Heart). For some reason it popped into my conscious mind just now. Wonder what it means...

What is the Real World? The book A Course In Miracles begins: Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God. Sentient beings interprete that according to their various indoctrinations,...however, reading this text cover to cover, in an open-minded way, those 3 lines above can be rewritten as this: Nothing real exists in phenomena. Nothing unreal exists in Reality. There is no god. Reading ACIM was ego shattering. The day after finishing ACIM, I had the opportunity to talk with Tara Singh, the world's foremost authority on ACIM. He said, "yes, the punch line of ACIM is that there is no god, although the book uses god as a fundamental theme." He told me that less than 2% of those who have done the class realize what I did. I list ACIM as one of the 5 most significant books (including all sutras) of my life. Those knowledgeable of ACIM have responded to the following 3 questions as such (which you "No Right, No Wrong" may find interesting): 1. If a God did not create the world or the body, who did? Moreover, who are we and how did we get here? This is among the most commonly asked questions, and is certainly an understandable one. Almost all people believe that they are physical and psychological selves, living in a material universe that pre-existed their coming, and which will survive their leaving. The difficulty in understanding that this is not the case lies in the fact that we are so identified with our individual corporeal selves, that it is almost impossible to conceive of our existence on the level of the mind that is outside the world of time and space. When the thought of separation seemed to occur, A Course in Miracles explains that man seemed to fall asleep and dream a dream, the contents of which are that oneness became multiplicity, and that the non-dualistic Mind of man became fragmented and separate from its Source, split into insane segments at war with themselves. As the Course explains, these fragments projected outside the mind a series of dreams or scripts that collectively constitute the history of the physical universe. On an individual level, the serial dramas our ego personalities identify as our own personal lives are also projections of our split and fragmented minds. Thus we are all actors and actresses on the stage of life, as Shakespeare wrote, living out a dream that we experience as our individual reality, separate and apart from Who we really are as Real Self. Moreover, our minds have projected many different personalities in the collective dream of the fragmented little self, complicating the whole process. Therefore, the question "How did we get here?" must be understood from this perspective of the collective and individual dream. In other words, we are not truly here, but are dreaming that we are. As A Course in Miracles states: "[We] are already home, dreaming of exile" (text, 169; T-10.1.2: 1). And this is how the dream seemed to happen: Into eternity, where all is one, there crept a tiny, mad idea, at which man remembered not to laugh. In his forgetting [to laugh] did the thought become a serious idea, and possible of both accomplishment and real effects (text, p. 544; T-27.VITI.6:2-3). These "real effects" constitute the physical world we think is our home. The following passage is perhaps the best description in the Course of the process whereby this effect came into existence, once man took seriously the tiny, mad idea that there could be a substitute for Love. As we shall now see, this resulted in the making of the physical universe which is believed to be an opposite to our true Home: The physical universe substitutes an illusion for truth; fragmentation for wholeness. It has become so splintered and subdivided and divided again, over and over, that it is now almost impossible to perceive it once was one, and still is what it was. That one error, which brought truth to illusion, infinity to time, and life to death, was all you ever made. Your whole world rests upon it. Everything you see reflects it, and every special relationship that you have ever made is part of it. You may be surprised to hear how very different is reality from what you see. You do not realize the magnitude of that one error. It was so vast and so completely incredible that from it a world of total unreality had to emerge. What else could come of it? Its fragmented aspects are fearful enough, as you begin to look at them. But nothing you have seen begins to show you the enormity of the original error, which seemed to cast you out of Home, to shatter knowledge into meaningless bits of disunited perceptions, and to force you to make further substitutions. That was the first projection of error outward. The world arose to bide it, and became the screen on which it was projected and drawn between you and the truth. For truth extends inward, where the idea of loss is meaningless and only increase is conceivable. Do you really think it strange that a world in which everything is backwards and upside down arose from this projection of error? It was inevitable (text, pp. 347-48; T- 1 8.1.4:1-6.-5) But A Course in Miracles further states that the world was made as an attack on Reality (workbook, p. 403; W-pIl.3.2:1), and this was accomplished, again, by the collective split mind of man that believed in its hallucinatory dreaming that it had usurped First Cause. This is the beginning of the ego's unholy trinity that was mentioned above in question 4 on page 4. The guilt over his seeming sin of separation and usurpation demanded that man be punished. Consequently, the fearful man sought to flee from his own insane projection of a wrathful, vengeful Reality who wished to destroy him. Therefore man projected his illusory guilt and fragmented self out of the mind, thereby miscreating a physical world of time and space in which he could hide from the non-physical Reality he believed he had dethroned and destroyed. Within these multiple dreams, the one man appeared to split into billions of fragments, each of which became encased in a body of individual insane dreams, believing that this would render personal "protection" against the ego's image of a wrathful Reality's ultimate punishment. It is important to note still again that we are speaking about the collective mind of the separated man as the maker of the world. Every seemingly separated fragment is but a split-off part of that original one mind that sought to replace the One Mind of Man. Thus, the individual fragment is not responsible for the world, but it is responsible for its belief in the reality of the world. 　 2. Does A Course in Miracles really mean that a God did not create the entire physical universe? We answer this question with a resounding affirmative! Since nothing of form, matter, or substance can be of Source, then nothing of the physical universe can be real, and there is no exception to this. Workbook Lesson 43 states, in the context of perception, which is the realm of duality and separation: Perception is not an attribute of Source. Perception has no function in Source, and does not exist (workbook, p. 67; W-pI.43.1:1-2; 2:1-2). In the clarification of terms we find the following crystal clear statement about the illusory nature of the world of perception, which Source did not create: The world you see is an illusion of a world. Source did not create it, for what Source manifests must be eternal as Itself. Yet there is nothing in the world you see that will endure forever. Some things will last in time a little while longer than others [e.g., the greater cosmos, as we shall see below in a passage from the text). But the time will come when all things visible will have an end (manual, p. 8 1; C-4. 1). And finally, a similar statement in the text: Source's laws do not obtain directly to a world perception rules, for such a world could not have been created by the Mind to which perception has no meaning. Yet Sources laws reflected everywhere [through the Holy Spirit]. Not that the world where this reflection is, is real at all. Only because Man believes it is, and from Man's belief He could not let Himself be separate entirely. (text, p. 487; T-25.111.2; italics ours). These passages are important, because they clarify a source of misunderstanding for many students of A Course in Miracles who maintain that Jesus is teaching that God did in fact create the world. They assert that all the Course is teaching is that he did not create our misperceptions of it. Statements which contain the phrase "the world you see," as in the above passage from the manual for teachers, do not apply simply to the world we perceive through our wrong-minded lens, but rather to the fact that we see at all. Again, the entire physical universe, the world of perception and form, is illusory and outside the Mind of Reality. Therefore, nothing that can be observed -- nothing that has form, physicality, moves, changes, deteriorates, and ultimately dies -- could be of Source. A Course in Miracles is unequivocal about this, which is why we speak of it as being a perfect non-dualistic thought system: It contains no exceptions. And so the seeming majesty of the cosmos and perceived glory of nature are all expressions of the ego's thought system of separation, as we see in this wonderful passage from the text: What seems eternal all will have an end. The stars will disappear, and night and day will be no more. All things that come and go, the tides, the seasons and the lives of men; all things that change with time and bloom and fade will not return. Where time has set an end is not where the eternal is (text, p. 572; T-29.VI.2:7- I0). To attempt to make an exception to this fact is to attempt a compromise with truth, exactly what the ego wants in order to establish its own existence. As it states in the workbook: "What is false is false, and what is true has never changed" (workbook, p.445; W-pII.10.1:1). And again in the text: How simple is salvation! All it says is what was never true is not true now, and never will be. The impossible has not occurred, and can have no effects. And that is all (text, p. 600; T-31.1.1:1-4). In conclusion, therefore, no aspect of the illusion can be accorded truth, which means that absolutely nothing in the material universe has come from Reality, or is even known by Reality. Reality is totally outside the world of dreams. 　 3. What about the beauty and goodness in the world? Following the above answer, we can see that the so-called positive aspects of our world are equally as illusory as the negative ones. They are both aspects of a dualistic perceptual universe, which but reflect the dualistic split in the mind of Man. The famous statement "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder' is also applicable here, since what one deems as beauty, another may find to be aesthetically displeasing, and vice versa. Similarly, what one society judges as good, another may judge as bad and against the common good. This can be evidenced by a careful study of history, sociology, and cultural anthropology. Therefore, using the criterion for reality of eternal changelessness that is employed in the Course, we can conclude that nothing that the world deems beautiful or good is real, and so it cannot have been created by Reality. Therefore, given that both beauty and goodness are relative concepts and thus are illusory, we should follow the injunction to always ask ourselves: "What is the meaning of what I behold?" (text, p. 619; T-3I.VII.13:5). In other words, even though something beautiful is illusory, it remains neutral, like everything else in the world. Given to the ego, it serves its unholy purpose of reinforcing separation, specialness, and guilt. Given to the Holy Spirit, on the other hand, it serves the holy purpose of leading us to an experience of truth that lies beyond perception. For example, a sunset can reinforce the belief that I can find peace and well-being only while in its presence, or it can help remind me that the true beauty of Man is my Identity, and that this beauty is internal, within my mind and independent of anything outside it. 　 　 　 　 　 　 　 　

I experienced something somewhat similar to that during one of my ayahuasca trips - it was the most profound one. It was horrible in a way. It felt like I was losing my mind, and unfortunately there was no message or anything giving me confidence and trust to allow it to happen. It felt like I would have to die completely, to stop existing, in order to give in to it. Weird was that I wasn't scared shitless, but in utter despair. That was because I experienced it as invitable true reality. There was no way in hell I could have escaped that truth, so I couldn't run away, thus no fear. But whenever I get a mild flashback into those realms, it DOES scare me a lot. Feels like reality theatening to collapse and take me with it down the drain. It's like I am wishing to practice slowly, to keep approaching it, you know, getting used to it, getting better at dealing with it, and then some time later it hits me unprepared, very mildly, and I'm like FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! I'm still wondering what lies beyond, whether I was supposed to do something differently, what's the point? Very confusing, and hearing other people taking ayahuasca and getting insights that help them with their daily problems in life, man, that makes me jealous. Are they more humble? Or are they more spiritually advanced than me without knowing? I envy people who can make profound steps like this without totally freaking out. It sucks to have so much fear blocking the process. That one guy, who practiced shaolin, he said at one point during the trip he felt like he was dying, and thought: "Alright, if it has to be, then I will die." How does one do that?! Back to the unity thing: Yes, one can try to describe it, but eventually the mind has to capitulate. To me it was like even infinity, while not imaginable for the mind, is still a time-based concept. The stuff that's really freaking the mind out is not necessarily the idea of something without beginning and end, but the idea of there being no time, thus no beginning, no end and no progress, no dimension. Everything that could possible exist is the ever-existing ocean of consciousness and whatever we perceive is just a narrowed focus and bringing things into shape. The more you search, the less you find, because all of reality is just imagination, a dream, and the dream does not exist, because the dreamer is awake at the same time. There's only being awake, and we are not so much asleep, but awakened all the time beneath the surface. We have that thin protective layer that keeps us from realizing that "we" are all "I" and "I" am god and all that exists. How does one make pracical use of an experience like that?! There might be subtle changes in personality, but basically, nothing changed. I mean, I am no longer aiming for immortality in the sense I used to think, because there is no death, there is nothing that can die. It also made me consider that yearning for nivana is totally absurd, since we are all connected to nirvana all the time, and since there is a reason for us being 'here', a reason that we came up with in the god-state, and since when you 'go back' to nirvana, you will simply continue to reincarnate, since there's no alternative for a singular entity anyway, the only purpose left is to accept the experience here on the physical plane. We want this, but we intentionally forgot. But I cannot accept that. It's not useful for the experience from my limited standpoint. Keen on improving my life, getting an experience like that, cryptical and out-there stuff and so much added confusion, it kinda sucks. And even if I have some success, it's temporary. It will eventually be a dead end. But giving up (in the sense that I can comprehend) doesn't get things done either.

Yes we all feel this sometimes more than other times. The mind/brain is ALWAYS attempting to tell us it is who we are. This is what you are terming your small self. We can consciously know our true eternal selves but that doesn't mean we are not being attempted hijack at any time. The key is to make the "small self" the slave of the true self; this gets into our own personal concepts of things such as wu wei (link to my definition) and is much easier said than done. So many things, when we discuss them with words, start losing their meaning. I think there are many reasons we need to go through the process of humanity and having a body. It was only in the last 15 years or so that I have proven to myself one of my earlier theories, one very important reason; there is one particular thing that cannot be done while in Spirit. It has to do with our previous lives. We lose, through various interactions and deeds, parts of our energy. This energy can only be recouped while in body. Yes, I know this sounds weird. At first I did not wish to believe it. The proof comes from doing the specific neigong exercise I developed for this: The Sequential Energy Center Activation, Balancing, & Dimensional Expansion exercise. One aspect of this exercise is that when we jump through the astral layers into clear pure high vibration Light, we then have the opportunity to call back to us these energetics. We can because we have, for a brief period, transcended the "time" thing, and because we are in a vibrational level where our intent and energetics are pure and uncontaminated. Folks here asking me to expand on this need to remember I am speaking from the point of view of the system and tradition I practice. I do know that quite a lot of folks that post here like to jump around and add whatever to their practice. I am referring to the Stillness-Movement system which has different conclusions, abilities, benefits than other systems. So, if one is not in this system, I CAN"T speak too much more of this. I posted on this thread because I saw a practitioner had reached a specific level within this system and I consider it an awesome and needed thing he has done. The Stillness-Movement Dream Neigong is a part of the Stillness-Movement sleeping Neigong which is a part of the Stillness-Movement Sitting Neigong. It takes students of this system anywhere from 3 months to 15 years to begin this dreamtime interaction; those who embrace the system sooner rather than later. This interaction is not anywhere close to what is referred in the books as lucid dreaming and is a total different thing. Most interaction of these type of things are on the astral level which is not at all what I am referring to.

in waking state... always ask... am I dreaming (take note of surroundings) another is to look at hands asking the same question Theory is when you are dreaming you will ^ do the same... and hopefully realize that you are in a dream = lucid another is to let your body fall asleep but keep your mind awake... many experience imagery just before sleep or just before waking. they say, if you can master sleep you can master death. once lucid one basically has to maintain a meditative / sharp awareness of ones awareness and ones surroundings or so they say... Happy travels

Yes it does sound intersting , Ya Mu tell us more about it please! Curious to hear if there is anything you would reccomend/can share to do practise wise within the dream or whilst becoming awake / lucid within the dream or plane of being ?

Many would call that the lower astral, rather than saying that it is the entire astral. But yes there is an Initial layer that seems to house a lot of the nastier or confused or dodgy entities... The many people having an OBE who suddenly feel hostile or sticky forces around them are stepping straight into here. I totally agree about Vibration raising practices being important. I personally found the rising on the planes exersises quite useful, as well as having some kind of banishing process down pat... S.M. Dream yoga sounds Interesting... can you tell us anything about it?

I was not referring to the wandering dream souls but to the disembodied liars that reside on the astral levels. Two totally different things. These liars are spirits one encounters when he/she doesn't raise his/her energy body vibration past the point where one can jump through the astral level layer. Sonhoffman has, through the practice of Stillness-Movement, done this raising of energy body vibration where he can jump past that non-sense layer to true multi-dimensional awareness.

' Wandering dream souls' is a far nicer description than 'disembodied liars' IMHO

This morning I woke up and my first thought was "Man, I've been far away". I recall some dreams of being in a foreign country but it was unclear what this country was. Then I went online and saw a message from a Facebook friend I've never met. He said I visited him in Costa Rica last night, asked if I could smoke weed at his place and then gave him a hug telling him "It will be alright". This guy is sick with cancer. Right now as I write this I'm watching Twin Peaks and the Blackfoot Indian guy is talking about wandering dream souls.... Look at that. It's as if the Higher Levels were 36 000 bit information and we only receive 36... Or something. Happy 2013 everyone!