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What you fail to realize is that your version of politically correct discourse does not interest me in the slightest, and your self-important moralistic admonitions do nothing to deter me from my objectives. Your holier-than-thou attitude is really just a mask for your personal manipulations. Its unfortunate, because such a mask requires you to turn a blind eye to your own actions. The massive schism between your moralistic idealism and the actual intent you engage in is not only a weakness, but also a pernicious disease that is eating you alive. Everyone lives rent free in everyone elses head. We are all in this together. As long as your "individuality" is threatened by all the people in your head, you will have zero clue where I am coming from. It's ok, though - don't be scared. All of these people whining about non-duality not being "pretty" or "nice" enough for them is contrary enough on its face, yet somehow not obviously ridiculous to them. "One taste" does not mean everything turns into birthday cake with shiny white icing and a cherry on top. Thats an infantile dream, and I'm pretty sure you guys arent sleeping in a crib anymore. Grow up.

I must admit, I don't read any Buddhist or Vedanta or Taoist texts anymore, well not often and not unless there is something specifically unique to merit my attention. For me the best way to understand what's happening in this world and our place within it, past and present, is to experience it without having an ideology corrupt our perception of it. In that sense I am of the school that the world would be a better place without religions, but also I believe that religions tend to fill a need within the psyche of man. In regards to the ego and mind, I used to believe that awhile back, but what I've come to understand since I have had my experience with "light" is that there is no ego and no mind, neither are real in an ultimate sense, but rather they are the creations of this world that is very much an illusion. If anything this world is a dream brought about by an ultimate consciousness. We live each day believing we are real, but in fact we are simply the dreams of this being (and I use that term loosely). That's not to say that we should not endeavor to be kind, compassionate, and understanding of one another, in fact the understanding of this fact should prompt one to be more so, for it is only when we have all awakened to this fact that this dream can end, suffering can end, and then it can all begin again. For me this original consciousness is non-duality, the one that beget two and then three, the creator of heaven and earth, whatever you wish to call it. Mankind has been aware of its existence for millenia but we have always struggled to understand it, simply because it does not exist within the five senses, or even sixth sense of awareness. When one does touch on it, and I have, and I could care less whether other people agree or disagree, then it is even more difficult to explain because the experience cannot be interpreted in a physical sense. I tried over and over to do this but found each explanation more lacking the previous, simply because it is a place where self ceases to exist and your sense of self fades with each passing moment, even then that isn't a correct way of saying it, because there is really no sense of anything passing at all, but rather a stillness where nothing happens. You could say it is quiet, placid, and neutral, but that would not be truthful either. In fact for me it was as if I was nothing and everything in one instance that was every instance. The profound effect this had on me caused me to question much of what I believed, in particular regarding the nature of compassion, love, and knowledge, that somehow all of these were pointless, but what I realized was that my understanding of these concepts up until that point, could not be rectified or compared, that true compassion is something that is done out of a sense of selflessness. The highest form of compassion is not inspired by the heart, but by an innate understanding that you are connected to everything, but you are not everything, that we ease the suffering of others, not because of a vow, but because we understand that allowing another to suffer needlessly is the absolute worst thing one can do to another being. It is not empathy that drives this, but rather sympathy. I'm sure if I wanted to I could make a great deal of money writing a book about this experience, but in the end it would be senseless and a waste of time for anyone to read it, simply because the discussion does not explain anything about it, since the only way one can truly know it is to experience it. When I hear people talk about dependent origination, non-duality, and many other topics, the conversations always ring hollow, simply because nothing they talk about seems to correspond with the actual experience I had. The closest explanation I've found regarding it are within Vedanta and Zen texts, perhaps because they are less inclined to define it and rather simply explain that it does exist. With that said, there is nothing inside me that urges me to share this with others in an attempt to ease their suffering or bring them closer to enlightenment, simply because I believe, one way or another, we will all become aware of "it" when it is our time. I once had a being tell me, "you are here to learn a lesson and when you learn that lesson you will stop coming back." I believe that wholeheartedly now, but I also believe that even what I have learned may not be enough, that the one lesson, the singular truth you talk about, is not true at all, because in order for something to be true, it must also be false. So the lesson I need to learn cannot be true, it cannot be the one and only realization, but rather it is a realization of everything that allows me to say, this is neither here nor there, it is neither hot nor cold, ugly nor beautiful, rather it simply exists within this moment and that this moment is neither past nor future, nor does it depend on time or observation to exist, rather it simply is. I'm not sure if that makes sense to you. Anyways, I was wondering if you ever had the chance to read Allan Watts' "The Book – On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are"? I think you might enjoy it. If you ever do get a chance to read it, I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Aaron

good point. and i also liked this very much 1.The Ultimate Teaching cannot be taught through the senses, however, by metamorphesizing a winged inner sense, metasensory Gnowing can reveal, this mystery to the Heart of our Essence. 2.Space is not understood, but merely perceived as That, which is filled and unfilled with form; the Ultimate Teaching is not dependent on object-ivity, the Whole can only be realized through Wholeness. 3.can a hole be defined by what's around it? that's not describing the hole; likewise, Wholeness is unrecognized outside itself, concepts and forms obscured through illusion. 4.to have a center there must be an boundary, as the ambits dissolve, the center disperses with it; the here becomes meaningless without a there, then the truth of Mind is no longer unfamiliar. 5.what shape and colour is a banana? absorbing all spectral light and reflecting yellow doesn't make it yellow, while under a microscope, neither has it a shape, until we think one is there; the Unborn Mind's essence is beyond shape and form. 6.the predispositions of a thousand eons is incapable of concealing the Still HeartLight of Life; similiarly, the self-imposed cycle of suffering has no power to cloak the HeartLight of Mind's Essence. 7.there is no void nor vaccum in space, it is either defined or undefined; although the true essence of Mind is Light, that StillCauselessLight cannot be seen, only gnown. 8.the essence of Mind resembles space, in that it embraces all that is perceived; Rest, and Be a Silent Witness, for through Love's Stillness, all worlds dissolve. 9.look at the body/form through a microscope, the Mind which you do not see, transcends that Duality; Rest Effortlessly upon the hidden jewel that's you, Letting Go of object-iveness uncovers the Ultimate Teaching. 10.the HeartLight of the Ultimate Teaching cannot be revealed through New Age discourses or preceptual Scriptures, neither from the Mantravada, Paramitas or Tripitaka; the HeartLight of Mind is shrouded by concepts and whimsy's. 11.attachment to morals or immorals cloaks HeartLight's resplendence, yet by holding ones tongue still, the intellect quiets its fears and hopes; then the Causeless fulcrum is embraced, and the efforts of Duality's struggling seesaw vanish. 12.free from the bondage of beliefs, the fiction of discourse and Scripture become apparent; the Ultimate Teaching unbounds the bonds of self-repression, useless suffering and useless pleasure fad away, and the DiamondLight of the Ultimate Teaching glistens authentically. 13.ancestral fear driven zealots deride the Ultimate Teaching, theirs is a life not experienced directly, always viewed from a predisposed past and anticipatory future; Real Compassion and Authentic Teachers do not avoid, when either touches your Heart, ecstasy will unfurl. 14.Joy is realized only by Letting Go of the desire for Joy; desires arise from ordinary knowledge, they want for things which are not; In Reality, everything already is. 15.transcending the effects of Duality, all struggle ceases, the Still Nowness of Life reveals the HeartLight of Mind; embraced by zero, the origin of ecstasy where fear filled pasts and hope laden futures never existed. 16.Unborn Mind and Truth are synonymous to seek truth is to believe there is a lie; the intent of a path is to get, not to Let Go. 17.Enslaved to illusion and its transient conditions, Duality, is like a projection on a theaters screen; belief in the dream entanges the believer in a space-time construct, yet nature's melody does not exist outside of things. 18.renouncing all social and moral rules, liking nothing, hating nothing, and repiring in amoral innocense; aware of Effortlessness is the Sly Man's way to uncovering who we are; walking without footprints, the Ultimate Teaching is realized. 19.we divide life into self and not self, the here and there, subject and object; and then try to intregrate illusion with reality; Enlightenment is the awareness that there is no Duality. 20.Light is not seen, only the conditions which keep it obscure are seen; the Light at the Heart of Essence has no beginning nor end; zero dimension, razer of logic, is the Holder of the Whole, through Unborn Mind, the illusion of motion is evident. 21.Truth is not a path, but a Stillness, a passivity not realized through concepts; concepts are derived and inferred from perception, perception validates only illusion, not Truth. 22.there is nothing to discover, but only to uncover, positive and negative do not exist outside intellect; all situations are neutral and impersonal, in CauselessNowness the Ultimate Teaching becomes clear. 23.Perception sees itself as the center of the universe blindly seeking a complete unification with separation; identification with the universe is an attachment to the dream. 24.Divested cogitation can gaze upon the Unborn Thought, divesting useless suffering invites Peace, divesting useless happiness welcomes Love; fear clings to past as hope clings to future. 25.The nature of a river meanders, reposes, curves and winds, yet because Nowness is believed to be useless, predisposition demands that the current follow you, instead of you flow-ing with it, through that behavior, fulfillment remains elusive. 26.Triggering transformational experience is not difficult; Connected Breathing, when activated, can jump-start an atrophied thymos, Fixed Gazes, with auric vision, can open time to be seen as one, holding the tongue still, can bring Stillnes to thought's sense. 27.Through unfeigned surrender, HeartLight itself, resplendently springs its metanoia; clear rapture coalesces from tranquility and insight, a continuum of awakenings dawn real Compassion, thus Birthing Human Beingness; Ascension is merely the Letting Go of the descension. 28.Then gaining long-life and eternal youth, waxing like the moon, Radiant and clear, with the strength of a lion, You will quickly gain mundane power and suprem enlightenment. May this Ultimate Teaching, Remain in the hearts of fortunate beings. vicente 1988 0

The PATRIOTIC Act became the new law in that the so called "war on terror" (a battlefield with no defined boundaries) takes precedent over due process, habeas corpus and the possible elimination of posse comitatus. Part of the basis for this is the "Theory of The Unitary Executive". This was the longed for wet dream of right wing extremists. There are some here that exclusively blame Obama for the new provisions in the NDAA, however, these new provisions were largely instituted by the Bush administration and Obama is continuing with his predecessors policies. The next president will do the same and more. Dr. Leo Strauss is the political philosopher whose writings influenced the NeoCon movement with the likes of Wolfowitz, Pearl, John Yoo et al. http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20060109_bergen.html?iframe=true&width=100%&height=100% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_executive_theory http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Unitary_Executive_Theory Edwin Meese AG who served under Reagan is an important figure to read in regards to unchecked executive power. One must be vigilant in paying attention to propaganda and the U.S. is not different than this scene from the Nuremberg rally in 1934. "Deutschland" was mentioned for the first time by Rudolph Hess. "Homeland" was introduced by the Bush administration as a way to create patriotism and a disregard for others rights. Internal security is always the cry of the oppressor!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMqdUFfxhNI

That's why the first Absolute Bodhicitta lojong is "treat everything you perceive as a dream"

I already said it all. The context or motivation or drive has been faith (in the very beginning) followed by glimpses of spiritual experience which showed me a taste of what is possible - sort of like a glimpse of paradise so you desperately want it back. I believed in buddha's words and yes if I had not met Thusness and known about Buddha and buddhism, I would be in a completely different position today. I might even be worshipping flying monsters. Do understand that I am born in a fortunate circumstance because I got acquinted with Buddhism at a young age. (Off topic, but I guess I chose to be born in this family (if you believe in rebirth) to continue my practice - my mother was seeking hard to conceive a son for a long time, and sought advice from a deity, and the deity in divination told my mother to chant Amitabha Sutra for 12 days, very soon after that I was conceived and my mother had a dream. Perhaps my antarabhava saw it fitting to be born in the family of a sincere practitioner? Plus I have vague past life memories of having learnt under a tibetan guru, possibly ... Hmm, I don't want to discuss until I have clearer memories) Had I not been born in a Buddhist family, I probably would have no idea what Buddhism is now because I haven't had any crisis or intense suffering in life that would have turned me to seek solace in spirituality. I did not find spirituality through an intense search in life for meaning or solace like many people. I already found dharma through my mother who led me to Buddhism at a young age, and later Thusness. Plus, I started learning since 2004 (through thusness's guidance to other people who had realized the I AM etc) that lots of people have awakenings so enlightenment isn't just for some rare few. This is quite interesting and empowering to say the least. The discovery of the freedom, peace, aliveness, bliss, wonder of Presence since very early days many years ago was was also part of what got me into all these stuff. Plus with Thusness's guidance, pointers, I was able to progress very fast. As for Eckhart Tolle, I didn't intend to say he has reached the summit of what is developmentally possible in spirituality. The summit is Buddhahood. I am just saying not everyone might resonate with my style of writing or other "hardcore" stuff, which is why this is not meant for all audiences, and I think no book could though indeed some are more appealing to the masses. And yes those who aren't into spirituality unfortunately will miss out some great stuff and that's a fact to me - can't deny a fact. By the way I have to thank vmarco for sharing a good link: http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j22/gurupandit.asp?page=3&ifr=srch KW: Let me just say that in a student who's got a really bad case of boomeritis—which is to say, pretty much any cultural creative out there, all fifty million strong—the internal stance is, "I'm holding on to my position and nobody can tell me what to do. My state, just as it is, has the same worth as any other." And that stance effectively aborts any real transformation. And so, for example, most of the people involved with what I call Boomeritis Buddhism even deny the importance of satori or Enlightenment or Awakening. Because that's saying some states are higher than others—and we shouldn't be judgmental. But guess what? Some states are higher. And so the entire raison d'etre of Buddhism gets tossed out the door because it offends the pluralistic ego. Yikes! AC: So the whole point is that with boomeritis, real radical transformation is against the rules. KW: Yes. Well, it has to be. .... AC: And of course, the great tragedy in all this is that the higher dimensions of human potential are often being left out of the picture. KW: I've watched this up close. I've watched the human potential movement for about thirty years. The great promise of the human potential movement was very straightforward—there are higher human potentials. Now the problem is that the green meme, the mean green meme, the boomeritis version, got hold of that and said, "Wait a minute. You're saying there are higher potentials, so does that mean I'm lower? Because that can't be right." All of a sudden it implied a judgment, and nobody's allowed to be higher because that means somebody else is going to be lower. And you're not allowed to call anybody lower; therefore nobody's allowed to be higher. So the whole human potential movement got derailed and, as we're saying, was replaced by this therapeutic self-expression, self-acceptance movement, which is fine as far as it goes, but which absolutely catastrophically prevents higher transformation. That's exactly what happened. And what I hear you calling for is the reawakening of this capacity and this desire to have a really radical transformation. The reawakening of the notion that there are higher potentials. And that means we have to awaken discriminating awareness, start making judgments about our own contracted state, and enter a relationship with a teacher who has some awareness of these higher possibilities.

Yeah it was strange when my mom called to tell me that my cousin had died.... the way I responded -- before I said anything -- just made some sounds -- she says: "You knew?" Because I did know already -- I had the thought that day that she had died. So then I had to admit the truth to her -- yes I did already know that she died. But that's the second time that's happened with my mom where she told me someone died but I had a thought-vision about the person even though I never thought of them normally at all. So both times I was not surprised to hear it and it just confirmed what I already thought. Precognition is always strange like that. I've had probably a dozen precognitive dreams now -- one dream happened in detail three years before and I wrote it down saying I thought it would predict the future....then it came true in specifics that could not in any way be coincidence -- I dreamt of my earth first activist friends standing on the roof of a house with Native American activists, holding a banner to protect a wooded area. Then the same photo appeared in the paper three years later.

Today's full lotus two hour session was strange. I spent the weekend entertaining my brother-in-law and he's got a perv lower chakra blockage. He's a number 2 as per Gurdjieff's rating -- not a number 1 full on perv like my other brother-in-law. Anyway so then today I was tired from lack of sleep and I had eaten food but it had been a couple hours at least. So I go into full lotus and I am kind of sleeping but I get really sleepy where I really need to lie down. For some reason I really needed to have my back resting so I could sleep. Determined to stay in full lotus I just laid on my back while staying in full lotus with my legs in the air. O.K. this worked for a while and my back got rested so I went back into normal full lotus. I slept a bit more but still needed to lie down again. So I went on my back again staying in full lotus with my legs in the air. But then I rolled a bit onto my side so then my legs were still in full lotus but now more sideways - supported by the side. O.K. from that position I fell into deep sleep. I then dreamt of full on sex -- which I don't normally dream of at all!! But my brother-in-law was being really crude and I was entertaining him so I just sat in full lotus with him and joked back with him. but I had not been able to empty out those sex thoughts before I slept. So then I woke up from my dream while I was dreaming I was having sex and climaxing but I then went back into full lotus on the floor with my back straight up. So then the semen shot up my back as my weiner was under my legs, pulsating, boner, whatever. So then the sex fluid was going into my skull and the same kind of cracking and snapping noises occurred while the pulsing now was in my neck with the sex fluids being pumped up by the vagus nerve and carotid artery. O.K. so I just stayed in full lotus but then my concern was that now I had to take a piss but I still have a half hour left of full lotus. I had slept for at least 20 minutes in full lotus while on my side. haha. So anyway I stayed in full lotus as long as possible until my bladder was exploding. So I quick pissed and I was glad to see it wasn't foamy at all which meant I had not gotten the semen stuck in my prostate -- instead it went up the spine. So then back in full lotus I had to work on purifying the sex fluids into chi energy. So the brain chi electromagnetic energy kept increasing but then I worked on lowering down to the lower tan tien. I was still sleepy though and so near the end I did another hand raising while in full lotus -- holding the body elevated, lifting the body up. I could only hold it less than a minute. Then I stayed sleepy which made the time go by fast. So I finished the two hour session and then I went to sleep for another 45 minutes.

Thank you all for your replies, I found your suggestions very helpful. Following up on the advice given, I did a small preparation(2-3 minutes) before falling asleep. simple stretching, accupressure and getting myself together. best thing I did last night was to put a notepad and pen at my nightstand. So bedtime around 11PM, wakeup at 7AM. Two dreams last night. I wrote down the first dream around 2AM. The second one around 6:30AM. Again stressful, very uncomfortable night. However upon wakeup, I am refreshed, relaxed. Thankfully the dreams are NOT what I feared, no deamons chasing me or torture etc, more like everyday life with a twist, and quite a twist it is. The dreams appear to be very well scripted, pre-planned like a movie. certainly something my conscious mind couldn't write. This opens up a whole new world to me, thanks again. journal writing is a great idea, otherwise my dreams expire within 1-2 hours of wake-up...

Hey humbleone. The best thing you can do is start a dream journal. Write down what is going on and take a look at it after a week, two weeks, etc, in order to ascertain themes and patterns and look at your associations with any recurring images and themes. Read your dreams like poetry and listen to them as you would to a close friend. What is your unconscious busily communicating to you? Once you begin listening, the message can evolve. We all need to be heard in order to shift. Your unconscious is talking to you avidly at he moment, sounds like you have freed up something that wants to be integrated. Good Luck with it.

Before you go to sleep at night, consciously remember to look at your hands in your dream. Then when you look at your hands in your dream, you will become lucid.

I don't affirm hearing or seen. There is just, as Buddha said, the 'suchness of the seen, heard' without cognizing an object seen, nor a cognizer. Of course even 'suchness of the seen, heard' is not inherently there - it's just a label for direct experience, but there is no inherent existence whatsoever. So yes, any label is fine - Suchness is fine, Buddha-nature is fine, God is fine, Satan is fine, but then the problem is that usually God is taken to be something inherently existing... so it is kind of meaningless. Of course, seeing, hearing can also be taken as inherently existing, but that is not what is meant or intended here... I'm just pointing to the unreified experience of suchness. Ultimately, there is no seeing, no hearing, no eye, ear, nose.... etc as what Heart Sutra says. But that does not deny luminosity or suchness of experiencing, since emptiness and luminosity are inseparable. Oh yes of course. Six sense consciousness arises dependent on six sense objects and faculties... the eighteen dhatus are completely empty. No. There is no awareness, no source - those are ideas of a Self (especially when seeing is just the experience of sight). There is not even a seeing, a seen, a hearing, an eye, nose, etc... those are ideas of Object. Everything is illusory like a dream, though vividly appearing. For me I concur with the Buddha: in the suchness of cognizing, I no longer conceive of a cognizer, or something cognized. Substantial non-dualism. No. Dependent Origination has nothing to do with a universal awareness or God. Your arguments show no understanding of dependent origination. You conflate dependent origination with substantialist understanding of something inherent and independent - some universal substance of awareness in which everything arises from or as. No comments but I am quite familiar with Advaita. It is not my intention to debate on superiority or inferiority of Buddhism or Advaita - I only talk about my experience. Self-Inquiry is Advaita. I practiced that for almost two years before Self-Realization. I also studied something called Actual Freedom, which appealed to me at some point, but as insights developed I saw how incompatible it is with emptiness, so I dropped it. Now the suttas and sutras resonate with me due to my current experience and insight. I only speak what I see, and just because I adopt Thusness's terminologies does not mean I do not speak from experience. I am not convinced because I had faith in him, or because it sounds intellectually sound. I am convinced of what he said because I've seen it. I can speak in Thusness's terminologies many years ago. I totally understand anatta and non-dual many years ago. Yet what attracted me was the Advaita teachings and other teachings... especially in the I AM and substantialist non-dual phase. I go through those stuff myself. (Between 2008 to about mid 2010, I mainly read Advaita stuff and am really attracted to it.) I have to see things for myself. Whatever I learnt from Thusness, while intellectually I may get it, still, unless I see and experience for myself, they don't mean much really. If someone else is able to point me to a deeper experience apart from what I have already experienced and is able to give valuable pointers to my practice, of course why not? I'll be glad to learn whatever I can. I am not as close minded as you think. I visit bookstores to find books from true practitioners often. I don't say "I am the most enlightened person in the world" or "no one is more enlightened than me". But what's seen is seen - you cannot convince me of something there is no doubt or illusion about due to my experiential realization. For example, you cannot tell me 'self exists' - this is bullshit, as illusory as the notion of a santa claus or a rabbit with horns. I've already woken up from that dream and there is nothing you can say that can make me go asleep again - what's seen cannot be unseen. Try as you may, you are like convincing someone who woke up from a nightmare that the monster he saw actually is real - it simply will not work. p.s. Something I wrote to someone a few weeks ago: "Anyway, on a sidenote, this is all part of the process - when I was in I AM phase, what really drew my attention (despite my being Buddhist and having taken formal refuge in Buddhism since I was 2 - I definitely do not limit my learnings to Buddhism) was really those Advaita teachings, Ramana Maharshi, modern teachers like John Wheeler, some Zen teachings like Ch'an Master Hsu Yun on self-inquiry and so on. Then when I got to non-dual, much of the neo-Advaita teachings, some Zen teachings and so on start to attract me a lot. When I initially got to Anatta (or even slightly before), the AF teachings really interest me a lot - I started reading a lot of their articles. Why? Because we are all drawn to different teachings based on our experience. When something we read resonates our understanding, experience, and so on, when we feel a heart-to-heart recognition of the message in it, we will naturally be drawn to it. After undergoing more deeply the twofold emptiness, what draws me is the suttas, the sutras, the traditional teachings of the Buddha, etc. Who knows what may draw my attention or attract me in the future - I don't know. But right now, it seems that a lot of the traditional teachings are really clear, speaks to my heart, etc. I'm not saying you should start reading sutras (maybe you already had) - in fact if you want to realize I AM, I will not tell you to read Buddhism, for example I passed a friend all my Advaita books because he wanted to realize I AM. So that is where you start. So if you want to attain AF, then go for it and practice AF, but don't limit yourself to AF. As I hadn't limit myself to Hinduism, to AF, or even Buddhism, I am able to utilize whatever resonates with me at that moment, and that may change as my practice progresses and moves on."

Sounds like you're making great progress. Really. You can learn a lot of secret things from the darker parts of the dream world that will help you in your spiritual practice. Savor this time. Remember that you are good, pure and light...and just visiting these realms. It's like an adventure. Sometimes a lot of it seems meaningless though. Maybe keep a dream journal to help sort things out. Zhan zhuang does have the effect of purifying at very deep levels, and will definitely put you "through the ringer". But purification is good. The unconscious that is stored within your body becomes subconscious, and you have weird dreams...then it becomes conscious and is released as your emotions, or just as extra purified energy and awareness. Breathing continuously helps transmute the negative into positive. Your positive choices and intent shape who you will become as energy is released for your use...be good, pure, simple, happy, loving. Some ideas.

sorry k, could you elaborate a bit, not sure what you are saying? two nights ago, I came out of the dream world, totally disoriented, not sure where I was. I had to roll over and physically touch my wife, then the realization that I am here in the physical world, a husband, a father, a job! then I dived right back into the dream world again

Couple of weeks ago, I picked up the pace of my practice by adding some of Bruce Frantzis water based methods. Namely I added zhuang zhang(basic wuji pose) for about 10 minutes and the spinal stretch x3. I do take plenty of breaks, I usually skip a day, sometimes two days in-between practice. My entire practice is about 20 minutes. frankly I don't quite understand why I have such exterme sensitivity to ANY form of practice? One issue that jumped up in high grear about a week ago is a big change in my dream state. I am very aware of my dreams at night, I am always in them. They unfold like a movie with me being in it. At times I have trouble coming out of the dream. Last night I slept for about 12 hours.(I am also fighting a cold, which my body seems to heal) When i do wake up I am quite restful, but the drama that unfolds everynight is starting to become troublesome and disruptive. I feel like I am taken through a ringer everynight your thoughts/ideas are greatly appreciated.

Something I wrote to the article http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/21871-experience-realization-view-practice-and-fruition/ : Also, a lot of people think 'The Right View is No View' which is true since all metaphysical views pertain to false views of existence and non-existence, however the way they go about resolving the problem is by 'forgetting all concepts'. They think that by suspending all beliefs, by forgetting all concepts and sitting quietly in a state of pure awareness, somehow merely by that, they can overcome false views. Let me offer something for you think about: every day we go into a state of deep sleep where all our beliefs, concepts, views, thoughts are temporarily suspended. But when we wake up, what happens? We are as ignorant as ever. Our framework of viewing self and reality is still the same. We still experience the same problems, the same sufferings, the same afflictions. This analogy should clearly show you that sustaining a state of non-conceptuality or mastering a state of 'forgetting the self' is not going to result in a fundamental change or transformation or effortless seeing, unless true wisdom and insight arises. I shall offer two more analogies which are related: a person deluded as to see a rope as a snake, will live in fear, trying to tame the snake, trying to get rid of the snake, escape from the snake. Maybe he managed a way to distant himself from the snake, yet the belief that the snake is still there is nevertheless going to haunt him. Even if he managed to master the state of forgetting the snake, he is nonetheless in a state of delusion. He has not seen as it truly is: the snake is simply a rope. In another analogy, the child believes in the existence of santa claus and awaits eagerly for arrival of his presents on Christmas day. One day the parents decide that it's time the child be told the truth about santa claus. To do this, beating the hell out of the child is not going to work. You simply need to tell the child that santa claus doesn't truly exist. In these analogies, I try to showcase how trying to deal with the problem of false views through means of 'forgetting conceptuality, forgetting the self' is as useless or deluded as 'trying to forget the snake, trying to tame the snake, trying to beat the hell out of the child' when the simple, direct and only true solution is only to realize that there is only a rope, and that santa claus isn't real. Only Awakening liberates us from a bondage that is without basis. Without the right contemplation and instilling of right view, you can 'sit quietly in pure awareness' for an entire lifetime without waking up. I cannot stress this point enough because this is a very prevalent erroneous understanding - even someone at the I AM level of realization will talk about non-conceptuality, non-conceptual Presence-Awareness and think it is final. Same goes for other stages. By overemphasizing on non-conceptuality, they will miss the subtler aspects of insight, they will fail to grasp right view, they will fail to tackle the subtler imprints and mental framework of viewing dualistically and inherently. They will not even see their framework of perceiving self and things as false that is causing some subtle effort and clinging (to a Self or to an actual ground here/now or to an actual world), just like you will never see your dream as a dream until well... you wake up. As Zen writer and speaker Ted Biringer says, "Accurate understanding is not authentic realization. At the same time, authentic realization can hardly be expected to occur without accurate understanding. And while an absence of "right understanding" almost excludes the possibility of authentic realization, the presence of "wrong understanding" excludes even the slimmest hope of success. If we aspire to realize what Zen practice-enlightenment truly is, then, as Dogen says, "We should inquire into it, and we should experience it." To follow his guidance here we will need to understand his view of what "it" is that needs to be inquired into, and who the "we" is that is to do the inquiring." Non-conceptuality does not mean non-attachment. For example when you realize the I AM, you cling to that pure non-conceptual beingness and consciousness as your true identity. You cling to that pure non-conceptual thought very tightly – you wish to abide in that purest state of presence 24/7. This clinging prevents us from experiencing Presence AS the Transience. This is a form of clinging to something non-conceptual. So know that going beyond concepts does not mean overcoming the view of inherency and its resultant clinging. Even in the substantial non-dual phase, there is still clinging to a Source, a One Mind – even though experience is non-dual and non-conceptual. But when inherent view is dissolved, we see there is absolutely nothing we can cling to, and this is the beginning of Right View and the Path to Nirvana – the cessation of clinging and craving. So as you can see, non-conceptual experience does not liberate - so we have to use the intellect to understand right view, and then investigate it in our experience. This is like a fire that in the end burns up the candle it is burning on, consuming itself in the process, leaving no trace even of itself. In other words, conceptual understanding of right view, coupled with investigative practice, results in true realization that dissolves concepts leaving non-conceptual wisdom - but without that process of investigating and trying to understand right view, merely remaining in a state of non-conceptuality isn't going to help you get free. People who fear engaging in thought, trying to understand the right view, challenging their views and understanding of things, are unfortunately going to stick with their own deluded framework of perceiving things.

That's correct,...Buddhists authorities or the sutras, are merely pointers. For Avalokiteshvara, her inquiry through hearing showed the validity of the Shakyamuni's instructions. Today, in my opinion, the utilization of light/relativity/quantum cosmology as part of the ground, accelerates the inquiry,...although from my observations, this would be most difficult for a conservative type person, such as: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Society/Conservatives_Deconstruct.html It appears rather unlikely that a conservative, as described in the link, could access Maslow's level of Self Actualization, to surrender and transcend to the level of awareness where Empty can be realized. Maslow's Self-Transcendance has been discounted by most modern psychologists,...just as that link on conservatives is discounted by most conservatives. All part of the "Conspiracy of Mediocrity" There are many "Transformational Triggers", which I've mentioned in other posts in detail, like the Just Because Club activities, which can help with the shift from skandha consciousness. Except for numerous rebuttals, most all my posts on this forum are pointing to transformational triggers. I have 37 years experience on the subject,...from Yogaville in Buckingham, to McKenna's ethnobotany seminars in Palenque,...I am fully dedicated to the liberation of sentient beings (from all their delusions). For those honest enough, I'm an admirable friend,...for those who are not, I'm perceived as an enemy of their hopes and dreams. As a Canadian said: "Waking up is not necessarily pleasant; you get to see why all this time, you chose to sleep. When you wake up the first thing you will see is Reality does not exist for you, you exist for it. Shocking as it is when you let it in, there is rest. You do not have to labor anymore to hold together a reality that does not exist; forcing something to be real that is not real. You and this life you have been living are not real ... In letting it in, even through the shock... pain... shattering, there is rest. Reality is when all you want to know is what is true ...just so that you can let it in and be true. Reality is not a safe place for you - the you that you have created. It is the only place where you would die; where there is no room for your hopes, your dreams. Once you have let it in, once you begin to re-awaken; to let Reality wake you up, nothing can get it out. That is the beginning of your end. Waking up can be much more painful than the agony of your dream, but waking up is real." V

http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2011/12/experience-realization-view-practice.html Experience, Realization, View, Practice and Fruition Posted by: An Eternal Now Here's something I just added to my e-book. I was trained in these 3 aspects and Thusness asked me to write something clearer about 'experience, realization and view' and synchronistically I actually had the same thought on that day. I think I'm going to add this as one of those preface chapters before I start with the journal section in my e-book. So the 3 aspects I'm talking about are: 1. The Experience 2. The Realization 3. The Implications of View However, for the sake of this article and benefit for readers, I will add two more: 4. The Practice 5. The Result/Fruition ... so this is going to be a very long article... I can feel it as I am writing now, hehe. Oh and one more thing: I put Practice after the first three instead of dealing with practice in the first part because I want people to know what they are doing their practice for, and the reason why they are doing those practices, how those practices result in realization and their effects on View. You will understand as you read further. This article documents my insight and experience and journey. Even though whatever I said is authentic, spoken from experience, accurate, it is not meant to be an authoritative map for everyone - not everyone goes through these insights in the same linear fashion (the Buddha only teach people to realize Anatta and Shunyata in the traditional Pali texts and did not talk about Self-Inquiry or Self-Realization, for instance), however it is true that all traditions of Buddhism (provided that there is right guidance and training) will eventually result in these various kinds of insights and experience, despite going through a different path or practice. It should also be understood that when people talk about "no-self", it could imply a number of things... from impersonality, to non-dual, to anatta. In worse case it is being misunderstood as dissociation (I, the observer, dissociates from phenomena as not myself). Therefore, we should always understand the context of 'no self' that is being said by the practitioner or person and not always assume that the 'no self' must be the same as the 'no self' you have in mind. Due to lack of clarity, very often 'anatta' is confused with 'impersonality', or 'anatta' with 'non-duality'. They are not the same even if there may be overlaps or aspects of each in one's experience. One must be careful to distinguish them and not confuse one with another. I will now start explaining 'experience'. There are a number of important experiences related to our true nature: 1. Pure Presence/Witness This is the case when practitioners have experienced a pure radiance of presence, awareness, in the gap between two thoughts. Having recognised this pure presence-awareness, one tries to sustain this recognition in daily life. In daily life, one may sense this as a background witnessing presence, a space-like awareness in the background of things. It is felt to be something stable and unchanging though we often lose sight of it due to fixation on the contents of experience or thoughts (like focusing on the drawing and losing sight of the canvas). This is related to the 'I AM', but still, this is the experience, not the realization. 2. Impersonality This is the case when practitioners experienced that everything is an expression of a universal cosmic intelligence. There is therefore no sense of a personal doer... rather, it feels like I and everything is being lived by a higher power, being expressed by a higher cosmic intelligence. But this is still dualistic – there is still this sense of separation between a 'cosmic intelligence' and the 'world of experience', so it is still dualistic. I experienced impersonality after the I AM realization, however some people experience it before I AM realization. Theistic Christians may not have I AM realization (it depends), however through their surrendering to Christ, they can drop their sense of personal doership and experience the sense of 'being lived by Christ', as in Galatians: "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.". This is an experience of impersonality that may or may not come with the realization of I AM. 3. Non-dual into One Mind. Where subject and object division collapsed into a single seamless experience of one Naked Awareness. There is a difference between a temporary non-dual experience and non-dual insight. Explained later. 4. No-Mind Where even the naked Awareness is totally forgotten and dissolved into simply scenery, sound, arising thoughts and passing scent. This is the experience of Anatta, but not the realization of Anatta. Explained later. 5. Sunyata (Emptiness) It is when the 'self' is completely transcended into dependently originated activity. The play of dharma. There is a difference between this as a peak experience and the realization of emptiness/dependent origination. Explained later. Next is the 'Realization': 1. The Realization of I AM Having an experience of witnessing, or a state of pure presence, is not the same as having attained self-realization - in that case the practitioner can be said to have an experience, but not insight/realization. I have had experiences of Presence and Witnessing consciousness since 2007, but not the realization until February 2010 after almost two years of self-inquiry practice. Self-realization is attained when there is a certainty of Being - an irrefutable and doubtless realization of Pure Presence-Existence or Consciousness or Beingness or Existence as being one's true identity. There is nothing clearer or undoubtable or irrefutable than You! Eureka. One realizes the luminous essence of mind but is unable to see it as all manifestations under differing conditions (that would be non-dual and beyond). In this phase of insight one sees all thoughts and experiences as coming from and subsiding within this Ground of Being, but the Beingness as a noumenon is unaffected by the comings and goings of phenomenon, like the movie images passing through the screen, or the waves coming and going within an unchanging ocean. Seeing a subtle distinction between the Noumenal and Phenomenal, one clings to the pure thoughtless beingness (which is non-conceptual thought) as one's purest identity, as if it is the true unchanging self or ground Behind all things - one clings to a formless background source or witness of phenomena. Since view of duality and inherency is strong, Awareness is seen as an eternal witnessing presence, a pure formless perceiving subject. So it is seen that I am here, as an eternal unchanging Witness/Watcher of the passing thoughts and feelings, I simply witness but is not affected by, nor judges that one sees - nonetheless there is a separation between the Observer and the Observed. A true experience is being distorted by the mind's tendency at projecting duality and inherency (to things, self, awareness, etc) Also, in my experience the I AM experience after the initial realization is tainted with a slight sense of personality and locality. That is, even though the mind knows how to experience Presence beyond all concepts, the mind still cannot separate Presence from that slight and subtle sense of personality, until about two months after the realization, that sense of a localized witness completely dissolved into a non-localized, impersonal space of witnessing-awareness-presence (but still dualistic and 'background'). At this level, the I AM is separated from Personality, and it is seen as if everything and everyone in the world share the same source or same space, like if a vase breaks, the air inside the vase completely merges with the air of the entire environment such that there is no sense of a division between an 'inside space' or an 'outside space', such that everything shares the same space, as an analogy of all-pervading presence. This all-pervading presence, though stripped of any sense of a locality or a sense of personality, still pertains to the thought level (non-conceptual thought). One does not experience the same 'taste' in the other sense doors - like sight, sound, smell, taste, touch. Nevertheless, if this experience of 'all-pervading presence' is sustained, it can lead to an oceanic samadhi experience. p.s. (updated) Just one day after writing this chapter, I found a book by the same name as mine, 'Who am I?' by Pandit Shriram Sharma Archaya. He distinguishes the Soul, the Inner Self/the Inner Witness/the 'Nucleus of your World', from the Universal Self or the Omnipresent Supreme Being which is the supreme source of even that Inner Self and everything else in the world. He says that one has to realise the Inner Self first before realizing the unity or oneness of that Inner Self with that Universal Self, Atman=Brahman. This is precisely what I'm talking about - the difference between the initial experience and realization of I AM (as the inner Self), then the maturation into the Universal I AM. This is the difference between Thusness Stage 1 and 2. In the Universal I AM, it is just this "unified field" in which "everything belongs to everyone", and that in this phase "A Yogi is one whose individuality has been consciously united (merged) with the cosmic Self." Everything and everyone is impersonally expressed and lived by this pervasive source, as stated by him, "particles of universally pervasive intelligence and energy, cosmic consciousness [Chetna] and life, are activating infinite systems, forms and forces of this cosmos." 2. The Realization of Non-Dual, into One Mind Having an experience of non-duality is not the same as having a realization... for example, you may have a temporary experience where the sense of separation between experiencer and experience suddenly and temporarily dissolves or there is the sense that subject and object has merged... temporarily. I had such experiences since 2006 (I had a number of similar experiences since then in following years, differing in intensity and length), the first time I had it was when looking at a tree - at that point the sense of an observer suddenly disappeared into oblivion and there is just the amazing greenery, the colours, shapes, and movement of the tree swaying with the wind with an amazingly intense clarity and aliveness as if every leaves on the tree is crystal-like. This had a lot of 'Wow' factor to it because of the huge contrast between the Self-mode of experience and the No-Self mode of experience (imagine dropping a one ton load off your shoulders, the huge contrast makes you go Wow!) This is not yet the realization of non-duality... the realization that separation has been false right from the beginning... there never was separation. When non-dual realization (that there never was subject-object duality) arise, non-dual experience becomes effortless and has a more ordinary, mundane quality to it (even though not any less rich or intense or alive), as everywhere I go, it is just this sensate world presenting itself in an intimate, non-dual, clean, perfect, wonderful way, something that 'I' cannot 'get out of' even if I wanted to because there is simply no illusion and sense of self/Self that could get out of this mode of perceiving, and there is nothing I needed to do to experience that (i.e. effortless), something that has no entry and exit. In the absence of the 'huge contrast' effected in a short glimpse of non-dual experience prior to insight, there is less of the 'Wow' factor, more of being ordinary, mundane, and yet no less magnificent and wonderful. You also become doubtless that the taste of luminosity experienced in I AM is exactly the same taste in all six entries - sights, sounds, smell, taste, touch, thought. So now you realize the "one taste of luminosity" and effortlessly experience pure luminosity and presence-awareness in and as the transience. You realize that the I AM (nonceptual thought) that you realized and experienced is simply luminosity and NDNCDIMOP (non-dual, non-conceptual, direct, immediate mode of perception) in one particular state or manifestation or realm, by no means the totality, but by not realizing this you reified one state into the purest and most ultimate identity (a note however: the ‘one taste’ spoken in Mahamudra tradition is not just one taste of luminosity but the one taste of the union of luminosity and emptiness), and thus you no longer "choose" or have "preference" on a purer state of presence to abide, since you see that I AM is no more I AM than a transient sound or sight or thought, everything shares the same taste of luminosity/awareness, and of non-duality. Here the tendency to refer back to a background is reduced as a result of this seeing.. Hence merely having temporary non-dual samadhis are *not* enlightenment... why? The realization that there never was separation to begin with, hasn't arisen. Therefore you can only have temporary glimpses and experiences of non-dual... where the latent dualistic tendencies continue to surface... and not have seamless, effortless seeing. And even after seeing through this separation, you may have the realization of non-dual but still fall into substantial non-duality, or One Mind. Why? This is because though we have overcome the bond of duality, our view of reality is still seeing it as 'inherent'. Our view or framework has it that reality must have an inherent essence or substance to it, something permanent, independent, ultimate. So though everything is experienced without separation, the mind still can't overcome the idea of a source. There is no overcoming the idea of an ultimate metaphysical essence, something unchanging and ultimate, even with insight into the non-duality of subject and object. With this view of inherency, Awareness is seen as inherent, even though previously it was as if things were happening 'In' Awareness but now all manifestations ARE Awareness, or rather, Awareness is manifesting 'AS' everything (rather than things happening 'IN' Awareness which would be dualistic). Awareness is not apart from manifestation. Nonetheless, the mind keeps coming back to a 'source', a 'One Naked Awareness', a 'One Mind' which manifests as the many (All is Mind - everything is You! The trees, the mountains, the rivers, all You and yet not You - no duality or division of subject and object), and is unable to break-through and find the constant need to rest in an ultimate reality in which everything is a part of... a Mind, an Awareness, a Self.... Or one tries to be non-dual by attempts to reconfirm the non-dual or one mind (thinking the sound and sights is You, trying to subsume everything into Mind, trying to be nondual with or intimiate with sights and sounds) which is another form of effort arising due to ignorance – the ignorance of the fact of anatta that always already, seeing is just the seen, no seer, and therefore no effort or attempts to reconfirm is necessary. All effort is due to the illusion of ‘self’. What this results in is a subtle tendency to cling, to sink back to a ground, a source, or attempt to reconfirm, and so transience cannot be fully and effortlessly appreciated for what it is. It is an important phase however, as for the first time phenomena are no longer seen as 'happening IN Awareness' but 'happening AS Awareness' – Awareness is its object of perception, Awareness is expressing itself as every moment of manifest perception. It should be understood that even in this phase, at the peak of One Mind, one will have glimpses of No Mind as *temporary peak experiences* where the source/Awareness is temporarily forgotten into 'just the scenery, the taste, the sound, etc'. Very often, people try to master the state of No Mind without realizing anatta, thus no fundamental transformation of view can occur. Since no fundamental change in view has taken place (the view is still of 'inherent Source'), one can still fall back from that peak experience and reference back to the One Awareness. That is, until you see that the idea itself is merely a thought, and everything is merely thoughts, sights, sounds, disjoint, disperse, insubstantial. There, a change of view takes place... the result of, 3. The Realization of Anatta Here, experience remains non-dual but without the view of 'everything is inside me/everything is an expression of ME/everything is ME' but 'there is just thoughts, sight, sound, taste' – just manifestation. More precisely (as it is realized for me in October 2010 when I was doing Basic Military Training): in that moment of seeing, you realize that the seeing is JUST the experience of scenery! There is no 'seer is seeing the secenery' - the view of 'seer seeing the seen' is completely eradicated by the realization that 'in seeing ALWAYS just the seen, Seeing is just the seen'. In seeing, always just the shapes, colours, forms, textures, details of manifestation. The illusion of agency is seen through forever. BUT... this is not the end of story for anatta and no-agency. The initial entry into Anatta for me was the aspect of Thusness's Second Stanza of Anatta, however the First Stanza was not as clear for me at the moment (for some people, they enter through the first stanza, but for me and those focusing on non-dual luminosity, insight comes through second stanza first). The two stanzas of Anatta can be found in http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2009/03/on-anatta-emptiness-and-spontaneous.html Few months later, even though it has already been seen that ‘seeing is always the sights, sounds, colours and shapes, never a seer’, I began to notice this subtle remaining tendency to cling to a Here and Now. Somehow, I still want to return to a Here, a Now, like 'The actual world right here and now', which I can 'ground myself in', like I needed to ground in something truly existing, like I needed to return to being actual, here, now, whatever you want to call it. At that point when I detected this subtle movement I instantly recognised it to be illusory and dropped it, however I still could not find a natural resolution to that. Until, shortly maybe two weeks later, a deeper insight arose and I saw how Here/Now or something I can ground myself in doesn't apply when the "brilliant, self-luminous, vivid, alive, wonderful textures and forms and shapes and colours and details of the universe", all sense perceptions and thoughts, are in reality insubstantial, ephemeral groundless, disjoint, unsupported and spontaneous, there was a deeper freedom and effortlessness. It is this insight into all as insubstantial, ephemeral, bubble-like, disjoint and self-releasing manifestations that allows this overcoming of a subtle view of something inherent. There is no observer observing something changing: simply that the "sensate world" is simply these disjoint manifestations without anything linking each sensation to another, without some inherent ground that could link manifestations, so manifestations are 'scattered'. Somewhere this time, Thusness wrote me a post in blog: http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2011/02/putting-aside-presence-penetrate-deeply.html Prior to this insight, there isn't the insight into phenomena as being 'scattered' without a linking basis (well there already was but it needs refinement)... the moment you say there is an ‘Actual World Here/Now’, or a Mind, or an Awareness, or a Presence that is constant throughout all experiences, that pervades and arise as all appearances, you have failed to see the 'no-linking', 'disjointed', 'unsupported' nature of manifestation – an insight which breaks a subtle clinging to an inherent ground, resulting in greater freedom. Only one who realizes anatta and thus becoming a stream entrant will start to understand the purpose of Buddhist practice. Buddhist practice is not about being lock-in to a most special or ultimate state of consciousness. Due to the false view that there is some inherently existing ultimate Self or state, such a spiritual aspirant may see the ultimate spiritual goal as permanent abidance in that purest unchanging state or reality or Source. This is actually a practice at grasping, not letting go, and therefore will not reach the Buddhist goal of the cessation of all clinging and afflictions (Nirvana). The Buddha's teachings on the other hand teaches us to realize no self, no me, no mine, in anything - including 'awareness', 'consciousness'. It does not mean consciousness is denied but the inherency of consciousness is seen through. One sees that the notion of agency, or an ultimate awareness observing or manifesting things is an illusion... in seeing there is just the seen without seer, no agent, no source behind things. So there is not 'awareness and manifestation' and not even 'awareness manifesting as everything' since 'awareness' is only 'manifestation'. There is no 'The Awareness', rather it is deconstructed into the six constituent streams of consciousnesses therefore vastly different from the monistic kind of non-duality (One Mind) - rather there are the visual, auditory, nasal, gustatory, tactile, and mental consciousness, all are processes of activities manifesting according to causes and conditions (such as the sense organ, the sense object, and all kinds of various causes and conditions). So all experiences are constantly self-releasing because there is no 'inherent view', the view of something inherent, that causes us to grasp, abide, cling to. In short, what this realization entails is the deconstruction of 'Awareness' into the six streams of dependently originated consciousness, without a cognizer, through the realization that in seeing always just the colours, shapes and forms, and in hearing always just the sounds (the diverse appearance of manifestation). There is just a process and stream of activities of knowing without knower, and each manifestation of cognizance is distinct, disjoint, it is just a diverse display of manifold rather than a collapsing of multiplicity into Oneness such as in the case of One Mind. When the sense of self/Self is sufficiently deconstructed, you also begin to experience everything as being a stream of activities that dependently originates. You directly see and experience everything as the activity resultant of the interaction of the entire universe of causal conditions... the total exertion of the universe, the totality of causes and conditions, gives rise to this moment of manifestation. Effectively, there is no self, no universe, no solidity, and all there ever is is an interdependent process of causes and conditions meeting to give rise to an activity, followed by another interaction that gives rise to more activities, ad infinitum. Therefore, dependent origination allows us not only to see "just manifestation" as in anatta, but also to see "manifestation" as the dynamic interdependent process of ungraspable, unlocatable, and empty (yet vivid, dynamically manifesting) activities. However, without anatta, without the utter and complete deconstruction and removal of the sense of self/Self, we will not be able to experience everything as the total exertion of all causal conditions. It is only when the sense of self/Self is totally relinquished that we can experience ourselves AS this causal process, without any sense of an agency or personality. Therefore, the insight and experience of dependent origination requires the full maturation of Anatta and No-Mind as a requisite. Anatta and dependent origination are therefore linked, but not the same. You can realize anatta but not realize dependent origination, but you cannot truly experience and realize dependent origination without anatta (i.e. through dualistic and inherent thought or view). For example, normally we view ourselves as actors, and doers, of our bodily action and speech. We think we are a controller of our thoughts, feelings, and experiences. When we realize anatta, this doer, controller, perceiver, agent is seen to be false and illusory - there never was an agent. This makes it possible for us to penetrate deeper into 'how' manifestation occurs? At this point, an intuitive seeing happens - whatever manifests, manifests as an activity via causality, the sound of 'da da da' on the keyboard does not come from ME, they are not MINE, but the words formulating in the mind, leading almost instantly to a physical movement and action to press the buttons on the keyboard, leading instantly to a manifested auditory experience of the 'da da da' sound.... one seamless impersonal, interdependent and causal process of activities, manifesting upon the aggregation of causes and conditions, subsiding due to the fading away of causes and conditions. One cannot even say that the 'da da da' is the sound of the keyboard any more than it is the sound of the words formulating in my mind - it is just this single causal, impersonal process of activities happening without any agency or source (be it internal or external), happening entirely by causal aggregation. 4. The Realization of Emptiness (Shunyata) Effectively with the realization of Anatta, the substantiality of any self/Self is totally seen through. There is no such thing as a 'self' or an ultimate 'Self' with the capital S at all - always, in seeing just sights, in hearing only sounds, in sensing - just tactile sensations. Manifesting and liberating upon inception... moment by moment. Once seen, there is no longer any more clinging to some ultimate Source or metaphysical essence/substance. Instead, one finds delight in the direct revelation of the sensate world moment by moment, seeing, hearing, tasting, all wonderful, all marvellous, how alive... words can never capture it, the practitioner is no longer concerned with concepts and contents, but instead 'grooves' in the minutest details of every sensation. Freedom from sense of self/Self is very freeing and blissful. However, having said so much, there is a danger of reifying the sensate world into an actual, substantial, tangible, inherently existing objective universe. This is the phase after the realization of Anatta, and before the realization of Shunyata. At this phase, it is as Thusness have said, "Before the insight anatta first arose, you still risked the danger of seeing the physical as inherent and truly existing. Therefore there is a period that you are lost, unsure and AF [Actualism/Actual Freedom - a teaching that aims to eradicate all sense of self/Self and emotions] seems appealing - a sign that you have not extended the insight of emptiness to phenomena though you kept saying twofold emptiness.", and after Shunyata it is more like "There is just aggregates that are like foams, bubbles, ethereal having all the same taste without substantiality and implicitly non-dual. No sense of body, mind and the world, nothing actual or truly there." So what is the realization of Shunyata? When observing a thought in the beginning of June 2011, observing where it came from, where it goes to, where it stays, it's discovered (again, a eureka moment) that the thought is utterly illusory (and likewise all forms and sense perception are the same)! Empty! No-arising, no-staying, no-cessation! Insubstantial! Coreless! Substanceless! Hollow! Unlocatable! Without an origin! Without a destination! Cannot be pinned down! Cannot be grasped! Cannot be found! And yet, as empty as it is, still, like a magician's trick, an apparition, an illusion, vividly manifesting due to interdependent origination out of nowhere, in nowhere! How amazing it is! A sense of wonder and bliss arose in light of this realization, a newfound freedom and liberation. And as wonderful as it sound, there is still nonetheless a growing dispassion to the entire show - it is like a TV show, and when you see that your whole life is like a TV show - utterly empty of any substance, you can no longer become so passionate about it. You see it as it truly is - a dream-like movie playing out. This is the arising of true dispassion and non-attachment. It should be understood that everything is dream-like, mind-only, in the sense of Emptiness is not the same as Substantial Non-duality of One Mind. It is now seen that everything is really no different from a thought - as in as baseless and empty as a projected thought like a dream, though it doesn't literally mean everything (including sense perceptions) are mere figment of imagination or projection (if you stop thinking, illusory perceptions still manifest due to natural dependent origination). Since everything is dream-like and illusory, they are fundamentally no different from a thought or a dream, and it is in this sense we can say that everything is mind-only. So all is mind in terms of emptiness signifies this dreamlike nature, vastly different from all is mind from substantialist perspective. So in short, there is a very big difference between substantialist non-dual of One-Mind and what I said here. In this experience, there is no background reality. It is NOT 'The world is illusory, only Brahman is Real'. It is not about the background Awareness (there is no awareness apart from manifestation!) but rather the foreground aggregates that I am talking about - A thought. Everything is as insubstantial and illusory as a thought or a dream. There is just the aggregates that are like foams, bubbles, ethereal, having all the same taste (of luminosity and emptiness) without substantiality and implicitly non-dual. No sense of body, mind and the world, nothing actual or truly there or here. Anatta (firstfold emptiness, pertaining to self/soul) makes clear many of the Buddha's teachings about anatta, especially Bahiya Sutta, Anattalakkhana Sutta, and so on. Whereas this realization of Shunyata (as in secondfold emptiness, pertaining to objects) makes clear another set of teachings by Buddha such as the Phena Sutta, and the Mahayana Sutras like the Heart Sutra and Prajnaparamita Sutras. The realization of twofold emptiness is traditionally (in Mahayana traditions) deemed as the basic criteria for realizing the first bhumi Bodhisattva in the path to Buddhahood, whereas the realization of anatta (no subjective self) is the realization of stream-entry in the path to Arhantship. Implication of Views The implication of views wasn’t very clear to me until more recent months (some time after I realized Anatta and Shunyata), when I began to see that what was causing grasping, clinging, the wrong way of perception, sense of self and so on was actually the latent view of inherency and duality. Even though previously realization has arisen that clearly done damage to such views, the impact of views in our experience and living wasn’t fully clear until more recently. What is view? View is a deeply held notion, belief, position, stance, with regards to the reality of self and objects. This view has direct implications on how we view things - how we form a mental conception of self and things which causes grasping and contraction. When you want to cut ignorance, you go for its roots, not cut off its leaves and branches. In this analogy, sense of self/Self is its manifest form (leaves and branches) in the form of a sense of contraction, alienation and self-grasping in the form of craving and emotions, while the latent view is its roots. As an example: if you view that your self abides in the heart center, then you may sense a contraction in the heart center, if your belief/position is that your self abides in the head, you may sense a contraction or clinging there, as well as that sense of alienation from the sensate world at large, a sense that there is this seer behind the eyes looking outwards at the world in a distance. That felt-sense of contraction and alienation, that sense of self/Self, is its manifest form, while the self-view/position/belief/ignorance is its root. This is why we cannot successively get rid of the sense of self/Self by will and effort without effectively cutting off self-view from its root through a paradigm shift via realization. There times of peak experiences which everyone has experienced some time in their lives (usually in childhood) where the sense of a self/Self goes into temporary abeyance and there is just the sensate world, magnificent and wonderful, untainted by any sense of self or emotional contents, just the pristine purity and clarity of the sensate world at large. Yet most of us tend to forget those moments, and continue our lives not transformed by such experiences at all. Why is that so? Our self-view is intact, and no amount of glimpses of PCE (Pure Consciousness Experience) or NDNCDIMOP (non-dual, non-conceptual, direct, immediate mode of perception) is fundamentally going to transform us unless we cut off the roots of ignorance. It should be understood that these latent tendencies or view of inherency and duality runs so deep down in our psyche that it is not merely a matter of conceptual belief but a deeply rooted, habitual way of perceiving things through a particular paradigm or framework... so deep and habitual that it cannot be removed even if one has come to an intellectual conclusion or inference that the doctrine of anatta and emptiness is actually something that makes more sense than the view of duality and self. For instance, I myself have faith and am convinced intellectually about the truth of anatta and emptiness way before I had a direct experiential realization that effectively resulted in the liberation of false view. But I can say in those years where I remain a mere intellectual or conceptual conviction or inferred understanding of this matter, I do not experience any sense of a freedom from self-contraction, from afflictive emotions, and so on... all these come from tendencies so deeply latent that it cannot be resolved by a mere intellectual transformation of views and beliefs (such as by training yourself in the Madhyamaka reasonings). For false view run far deeper into our psyche that require you to truly realize things from experiential awakening/knowledge and vision of things as they are. Also, a lot of people think 'The Right View is No View' which is true since all metaphysical views pertain to false views of existence and non-existence, however the way they go about resolving the problem is by 'forgetting all concepts'. They think that by suspending all beliefs, by forgetting all concepts and sitting quietly in a state of pure awareness, somehow merely by that, they can overcome false views. Let me offer something for you think about: every day we go into a state of deep sleep where all our beliefs, concepts, views, thoughts are temporarily suspended. But when we wake up, what happens? We are as ignorant as ever. Our framework of viewing self and reality is still the same. We still experience the same problems, the same sufferings, the same afflictions. This analogy should clearly show you that sustaining a state of non-conceptuality or mastering a state of 'forgetting the self' is not going to result in a fundamental change or transformation or effortless seeing, unless true wisdom and insight arises. I shall offer two more analogies which are related: a person deluded as to see a rope as a snake, will live in fear, trying to tame the snake, trying to get rid of the snake, escape from the snake. Maybe he managed a way to distant himself from the snake, yet the belief that the snake is still there is nevertheless going to haunt him. Even if he managed to master the state of forgetting the snake, he is nonetheless in a state of delusion. He has not seen as it truly is: the snake is simply a rope. In another analogy, the child believes in the existence of santa claus and awaits eagerly for arrival of his presents on Christmas day. One day the parents decide that it's time the child be told the truth about santa claus. To do this, beating the hell out of the child is not going to work. You simply need to tell the child that santa claus doesn't truly exist. In these analogies, I try to showcase how trying to deal with the problem of false views through means of 'forgetting conceptuality, forgetting the self' is as useless or deluded as 'trying to forget the snake, trying to tame the snake, trying to beat the hell out of the child' when the simple, direct and only true solution is only to realize that there is only a rope, and that santa claus isn't real. Only Awakening liberates us from a bondage that is without basis. Without the right contemplation and instilling of right view, you can 'sit quietly in pure awareness' for an entire lifetime without waking up. I cannot stress this point enough because this is a very prevalent erroneous understanding - even someone at the I AM level of realization will talk about non-conceptuality, non-conceptual Presence-Awareness and think it is final. Same goes for other stages. By overemphasizing on non-conceptuality, they will miss the subtler aspects of insight, they will fail to grasp right view, they will fail to tackle the subtler imprints and mental framework of viewing dualistically and inherently. They will not even see their framework of perceiving self and things as false that is causing some subtle effort and clinging (to a Self or to an actual ground here/now or to an actual world), just like you will never see your dream as a dream until well... you wake up. As Zen writer and speaker Ted Biringer says, "Accurate understanding is not authentic realization. At the same time, authentic realization can hardly be expected to occur without accurate understanding. And while an absence of "right understanding" almost excludes the possibility of authentic realization, the presence of "wrong understanding" excludes even the slimmest hope of success. If we aspire to realize what Zen practice-enlightenment truly is, then, as Dogen says, "We should inquire into it, and we should experience it." To follow his guidance here we will need to understand his view of what "it" is that needs to be inquired into, and who the "we" is that is to do the inquiring." Non-conceptuality does not mean non-attachment. For example when you realize the I AM, you cling to that pure non-conceptual beingness and consciousness as your true identity. You cling to that pure non-conceptual thought very tightly – you wish to abide in that purest state of presence 24/7. This clinging prevents us from experiencing Presence AS the Transience. This is a form of clinging to something non-conceptual. So know that going beyond concepts does not mean overcoming the view of inherency and its resultant clinging clinging. Even in the substantial non-dual phase, there is still clinging to a Source, a One Mind – even though experience is non-dual and non-conceptual. But when inherent view is dissolved, we see there is absolutely nothing we can cling to, and this is the beginning of Right View and the Path to Nirvana – the cessation of clinging and craving. So as you can see, non-conceptual, even non-dual experience does not liberate - so we have to use the intellect to understand right view, and then investigate it in our experience. This is like a fire that in the end burns up the candle it is burning on, consuming itself in the process, leaving no trace even of itself. In other words, conceptual understanding of right view, coupled with investigative practice, results in true realization that dissolves concepts leaving non-conceptual wisdom - but without that process of investigating and trying to understand right view, merely remaining in a state of non-conceptuality isn't going to help you get free. People who fear engaging in thought, trying to understand the right view, challenging their views and understanding of things, are unfortunately going to stick with their own deluded framework of perceiving things. Now having diverted our attention so much, let us return to the subject at hand. There are two kinds of views (with sub categories): 1. View of Subject-Object Duality The view of subject-object duality is prevalent in everyone up to the realization of I AM. If you have not realized I AM, it is felt as a sense of alienation, separation, distance, between I as a subjective perceiver inside my head looking at the world 'outside' from a distance. Having realized the I AM, one no longer doubts one's Existence, Pure Presence, Consciousness. It cannot be unseen, because luminosity is the unconditioned characteristic or essence of mind that can never be removed from sight. In that moment of realization, there is no longer any doubts as it is a direct non-conceptual realization of a fundamental fact of reality. Yet, due to the taints of dualistic view, this luminosity is abstracted from other experiences (from sense perceptions, thoughts, etc). Due to the view that there is a subjective self, or observer, apart from the perceived objects, there is always this split between Me, the Observing Awareness, and 'that' - the observed objects. Even if one perceives Awareness to be an infinite background container and manifestations to be finite appearances popping in and out of this background container awareness like waves on the ocean, there is always this split between 'awareness' and 'contents of awareness'. Contents of awareness appears 'in' awareness, but is not awareness. The view that Awareness is a container for phenomena but is not a phenomena is a kind of dualistic view/position/stance that is unfounded, but in ignorance taken to be true. This is the subject-object dualistic division. When one realizes non-duality, one no longer sees awareness as the background container of appearances. However even though dualistic bond is gone and one no longer sees distance, separation, inside or outside, but an intimacy with everything, nonetheless there can still be the bond of inherency - seeing Awareness as something inherent (independent, unchanging), a subtle clinging to the view of a Subjective Self even though usually seen as impersonal [in fact probably seen to be universal] and furthermore without subject-object division: 'IT' is inseparable from, and manifesting itself as, all appearances. 2. View of Inherency The view of inherency is twofold: the view that a subjective self [whether personal or universal], and the view that objects/phenomena have intrinsic, objective substantiality (whether gross such as 'a tree', or subtle, such as elemental existence of atoms). All metaphysical views come down to 'is' or 'is not'. Either something exist, or something does not exist. The former is eternalism, the latter is nihilism. Both views are extremes and to be rejected according to Buddha. What is subjective self? Self is seen as being an unchanging subject - in other words, moment by moment, the objects of the field of experience come and go, but there is this unchanging subject or Self that remains unchanged and independent of the objective field of things and events. There is something that is me (what I feel as subjectively existing, unchanging and independent), and something that is not me (that which is experienced apart from myself). The former is subjective self, the latter is the objective pole. For example, the view that there is a self in here, in this body, that remains unchanged even as the body undergoes birth, growing, ageing, and so on, even death for some (view of eternalism - a soul remains unchanged and continues into eternity even after death) or perhaps only in this life (view of annihilation - the self ceases upon death) constitutes the view of a subjective self or soul. If you were to lose your hand, you still feel "I am the same old me". That view that the self remains unchanged pertains to the stance or position of an existent self. However, exactly how we view subjective self can get more complicated than that, and this view changes and transforms accordingly, it differs from person to person, and depends also on your spiritual practice and experience (if you have one). The view of what Self is can be very coarse or subtle. For most people, their view of self is not very clear - if you ask them do you think you exist? They will say 'yeah, of course I do'. If you ask them, do you feel you exist as a self? They will say 'yes, of course I FEEL [perceive/project/believe/sense] that I do exist'. But if you ask them, where you located? They usually cannot answer you immediately. They may give you vague answers like, well, I'm here, of course. But if you probe them where is the 'here' they refer to, they need to think. They aren't sure (unless they have contemplated about it before). You ask them, are you located in your hands, your legs, and so on? Doesn't seem like likely candidates since if you remove your hands or legs, you still feel like you're there, unchanged - in other words hands and legs are seen as possessions (mine) rather than self (me). As they try to pinpoint where the Self is, usually some will point to the center behind the eyes inside the head, or somewhere in the heart region. Depending on where they cling to as their seat of the Self, they will feel some tension, tightness, and contraction to that region of self. Also, regardless of where you pinpoint your self to be at, there is always this ongoing sense of alienation from the sensate world at large, a sense that there is this seer behind the eyes looking outwards at the world in a distance. This clinging to a subjective self veils us from having an intimate, non-dual, non-conceptual, direct, immediate mode of perception of the sensate world as it is. It keeps "us" in a distance (there will always be a sense of distance when there is a sense of a separate self). This view of self transforms when you undertake practice of self-inquiry. At the moment of self-realization, the view of Self completely undergoes a life-changing shift. There is this undoubtable insight of what Consciousness IS, what Existence IS, what Presence IS. And this Consciousness is undoubtably present, intimate, YOU, closer than your breathe. This undeniable fact of BEING is taken to be the true self. It has nothing to do with the body, nothing to do with the world... so the previous views of a self being inside the body or having to do with a body is overthrown. Rather, all experiences (including the body and mind) are seen to be happening TO a background pure existence-consciousness... and soon (for me in two months) it becomes the ultimate impersonal container of everything - the trees, the door, the floor, the birds, the mountains, everything is not happening outside of me, but is all happening in one universal space - Consciousness doesn't belong to me any more than it belongs to the door or the cat's, it is all just One Existence, One Life expressing itself in every form and being. At this point the view of Self becomes more impersonal - you see that this entire universe is simply an expression of this impersonal, universal space, and that this universal source is what you truly are. So again, the view of Self shifts accordingly to your progression in insight and experience. Still, the view of Self is tight - coarse in fact, because now you have a very solid (rather than vague) sense of what You are, in contrast to the uncertainty of what Self is before Self-Realization. This view can potentially be a hindrance to progress because if you cling too tightly to the view that this I AM or Beingness (which actually simply is a manifestation pertaining to the non-conceptual thought realm) is your truest identity, something most special and ultimate, you will crave or cling very tightly to it. This will prevent non-dual from being experienced in other sense doors and experiences. But if you are able to let go of this clinging, focus on advancing the I AM in terms of the four aspects and with the right pointers and contemplation, your practice progresses and you will come to a point of realization that Awareness/Consciousness/Existence has never been separated in terms of a subject and an object. This is the point where dualistic view is removed (as mentioned earlier) but not the inherent self view yet. All perceptions, experiences, manifestations, sights and sounds are completely non-dual with Consciousness. In other words, they are not happening TO or IN Consciousness, but AS Consciousness. Consciousness is itself taking shape and experiencing itself as the mountains, the rivers, everything IS Consciousness in expression, everything is Consciousness, All is Mind. At this point, the view of Self shifts again - now it is no longer a Subjective Witness, the sense of a subjective Witness completely dissolves... into One Mind, an indivisible/undivided field of Consciousness expressing itself as everything. The view of Self at this point takes this One Mind, this undivided One Naked Awareness to be the Self. Even though it is indivisible from everything, expresses itself in everything, nevertheless this One Awareness is unchanging and truly existing. Non-duality at this point is understood not as no duality (in which case there is absolutely no Subject, not even an unchanging Awareness), but as the inseparability of subject and object, a collapsing of dualities into Oneness. As an analogy, Awareness is seen to be an unchanging mirror, which nevertheless cannot be separated or divided from the contents in the mirror - Awareness and the contents of Awareness are completely One - there is only One seamless field of experiencing - the One Naked Awareness. Even though seamless, even though not seen as anything personal or separate, Awareness is still seen as an unchanging Subjective Self manifesting itself as the field of experience. So this seamless One is now deemed as the Self. When we come to the realization of Anatta, the last vestige of (Subjective) Self-View collapses, resulting in what Buddha calls Stream-Entry and the eradication of self-view (sakkayaditthi). At this point, NOTHING at all - not even Consciousness can be deemed as a Self. And how is this so? By seeing Awareness, deemed as Self, as also not-self, in the manner of 'in seeing always just the seen', 'seeing is just the experience of sight' - not I, not me, not mine, only a selfless process of self-luminous activities without agency. You know self-view has been overthrown when there is through experiential knowledge and vision that there is no self to be found inside or apart from the process of five aggregation. There is simply no You in reference to what is seen and experienced in any manner (to, in, etc) - in seeing just the seen. At this point you see as the suttas state, that the aggregation cannot be said to be happening TO a self, IN a self, nor can it be deemed a self exists IN the aggregates (like a soul located inside the body). As the Buddha explains, "But, lady, how does self-identity not come about?" "There is the case where a well-instructed disciple of the noble ones — who has regard for noble ones, is well-versed & disciplined in their Dhamma; who has regard for men of integrity, is well-versed & disciplined in their Dhamma — does not assume form to be the self, or the self as possessing form, or form as in the self, or the self as in form." in Udana Sutta, and in Bahiya Sutta he says "When for you there will be only the seen in reference to the seen, only the heard in reference to the heard, only the sensed in reference to the sensed, only the cognized in reference to the cognized, then, Bahiya, there is no you in terms of that. When there is no you in terms of that, there is no you there. When there is no you there, you are neither here nor yonder nor between the two. This, just this, is the end of stress." Once the Subjective Self-View has been dissolved through anatta realization, the view of objective existence still occurs. Even though there is no view or sense that there is a seer seeing the red flower - only the experience of the red flower, nevertheless the view of objective existence is that the sensate world we experience actually references an objectively existing world, such that if I close my eye, the red flower I previously saw is actually still truly existing out there in a substantial manner. Perhaps, for more intellectual people, they can adopt a more agnostic kind of view with regards to the world - perhaps it is real, perhaps it is unreal, but whether the world truly exists out there however cannot be known by me. Or perhaps, they can even adopt the view of emptiness (through inference and study on emptiness teachings), yet without true experiential realization, the view of objective existence cannot be dissolved... just as even if you adopt the view of anatta through inference (through analogies such as the Chandrakirti's sevenfold reasoning), nonetheless as I said earlier, with this inferred understanding you will still experience clinging to the sense of self, a sense of contraction and alienation despite the intellectual acceptance of the doctrine, until you have resolved this matter through direct experiential insight. However, to get a sense of how this view of objective existence is actually untenable, with the example of the red flower I said earlier as an example (that whether I close my eyes, the red flower truly exists out there), consider this: If we were to observe a red flower that is so vivid, clear and right in front us, the “redness” only appears to “belong” to the flower, it is in actuality not so. Vision of red does not arise in all animal species (dogs cannot perceive colours) nor is the “redness” an inherent attribute of the mind. If given a “quantum eyesight” to look into the atomic structure, there is similarly no attribute “redness” anywhere found, only almost complete space/void with no perceivable shapes and forms. Whatever appearances are dependently arisen, and hence is empty of any inherent existence or fixed attributes, shapes, form, or “redness” -- merely luminous yet empty, mere appearances without inherent/objective existence. When realization is experientially realized, the entire sensate world, including all thoughts, are seen to be completely empty of any inherent objective existence. You can no longer believe or view objects as having an independent core or substance out there. There is simply no way of clinging at sensate world in terms of 'the flower exists in this way' - there is no more clinging to objects and characteristics or objects as possessing certain characteristics, no longer false views about being able to locate or pin down an actuality of objects, no more grasping them as truly existent. Everything appears as completely illusory yet vividly appearing, having a magical quality (literally 'appearing like magic') to them. In Conclusion Non-conceptuality, or even non-duality of subject and object does not mean non-attachment. As Thusness says: non-dual luminosity is blissful, but not liberating. Many people think the non-conceptual Presence of I AM, or the non-conceptual and non-dual luminosity free of subject and object is liberation. It is not. You can also see from my explanations above on 'view of inherency' that the view of duality is simply a subset of the view of inherency (one particular way the self is seen - as a separate subject), and removing the view of duality does not mean removing all views of inherency (having relinquished the view of a dualistic self or a perceiver separate from objects, you can still cling to a unified self or One Mind). The complete dissolution of views pertaining to duality and inherency (therefore Right View is No View) is what results in non clinging, because all clinging have their basis in taking self and things as true existents, as something to cling on to. For example to be able to cling on to something, you must be able to establish something which you can cling to. To be able to cling to the sense of self, the view of self must be in tact, to be able to cling to objects, the view of objective existence must be in tact... in the same way that in order to cling or crave after santa claus, you must believe in the existence of santa claus, to fear the snake in the rope, you must truly be deluded enough to perceive the rope as a snake. All views are mental proliferations, all mental proliferations cause suffering. As Nagarjuna says, "Not known from another; peaceful; lacking proliferation with proliferations; non-conceptual; undifferentiated — that is the characteristic of reality." A fully awakened person (a Buddha) who never leaves a state of equipoise on reality does not have views, does not even have concepts and thoughts. His or her actions and speech arise spontaneously out of pure wisdom, not through relying on imagination, fabrication, concepts or conventions. His state can never be conceived through the conceptual intellect. The Practice I think the topic of Practice is dealt with more in-depth in other sections of the e-book, therefore I am going to skim through this portion here. There are many kinds of practices one can engage in in order to give rise to realization. There are neo-Advaita teachers who teach that "no practice is necessary, no realization is needed", I say bullshit to that. As long as ignorance, false view of reality is in effect, we are going to experience suffering, afflictive emotions, sense of self, self-contraction and all that. Even though there never was truly a self and all these are a result of pure delusion, nonetheless, unless we wake up, we can never be liberated from suffering. There are "pure now-ists" that say, all thoughts of awakening are a dream, your true self is fully evident Here and Now. Well that's ok as a pointer - but to take it as a suggestion that no practice or no realization is necessary? Bullshit again, and even though your true nature is fully evident in the present, unless you realize it, it is as useless as a diamond hidden under a beggar’s pillow unnoticed - the beggar is still going to be poor, perhaps for his entire life, which is tragic to say the least. Then there are some of those teachers who think that "there is no practice guaranteed to lead to realization". Well in a sense yes, I cannot guarantee if you will realize your true nature today, tomorrow, one year, or ten years. Nobody can. If some teacher guarantees you that you will certainly attain awakening if you follow him for two years, he's outright lying and probably a fraud trying to buy followers through false promises. This is not to say that awakening within two years is impossible or even farfetched (far from it as I myself took less than two years of self-inquiry to attain Self-Realization) - but there simply cannot be guarantees like this. There is no fixed or guaranteed timeframe for awakening like there are fixed timeframe for graduation from a university. But what I can say is that whatever I practiced, I am confident if done sincerely with right understanding, will surely lead to awakening. You simply cannot apply any formulas like 'today you study this, tomorrow you study that, the following day you'll get your certificate' to awakening. But those teachers who didn't offer a method simply aren't offering people any solution at all - as if their own awakening happened by chance. (They may say that practice and meditation is as useful/useless as walking down the beach since awakening can happen in both instances) In that case their awakening is completely useless and not beneficial to anyone else, and it is a waste of time trying to understand what they say since they don't offer you a solution or method or way where you too can wake up. Well, perhaps you might say, their 'method' is simply to keep repeating the same things over and over again and then someday perhaps, you will finally get it. Well, good luck with that, because it is my experience that merely listening is insufficient - a form of contemplation, investigation, is what is necessary (from my experience) to effectively result in true realization. You may listen to the same doctrine over and over again, and totally get it intellectually and score 100/100 on a 'non-duality exam' (like I did way before I had any real realizations), but no transformation can happen unless you truly see it for yourself, and that is by investigating and contemplating on them yourself in your own experience. The reason some of those teachers utter bullshit that puts down practice and realization is because of their lack of clarity. They don't know how to help you awaken - but I know how to. Sorry if this sounds kind of arrogant, but I assure you it is not, it is just honesty in stating some plain facts for those sensible enough to see it. As a matter of fact, there are many teachers out there who also offer valid methods and ways and practices that can effectively lead to realization. I am far from the only one that talk about practice (lots of teachers and practitioners talk about it - especially in Buddhism, and even traditional Advaita) - I am only explaining one way, a way that worked for me. When I talk about practice, I often mention that practice has two types: direct path, and gradual path. Of course I don't mean there are only two types of practices in the world, in reality there are countless kinds of practices (though they do still fall under the category of either direct or gradual) from practitioners following countless lineages and teachers and traditions (in Buddhism there is this saying that there are 84000 Dharma Doors to awakening, 84000 being merely a metaphorical number signifying countless, Dharma Doors can mean practices and gateways to realization), most of which I am not familiar of. I say: more power to them, and go for whatever works. If that practice works for you, or resonates with you, go for it. I am not selling you something and saying that you MUST follow the method I offer (remember: I am not a guru, just someone offering his two cents based on personal experience), or that somehow only this method is going to work, or that this method is THE TRUE AND ONLY way. It is not. It is just one of the many ways... but one that has worked very effectively for me and many others. To me my way is the best way, but this is entirely subjective - to someone else whose other ways worked for them, their way is the best way, and so on. To make a 'one for all' statement is to become biased since it does not allow for alternatives. So what exactly is direct path? What is gradual path? Direct path does not mean if you take up this practice, you will attain awakening today or tomorrow (it took me 1 year 10 months of self-inquiry to realize I AM and a couple of months more to realize the further stages of insights, which nonetheless I don't consider too long, and I consider the time I took to realize these stuff as not so surprising given the directness and effectiveness of the direct path contemplation). It is direct, because the practice focus on a form of very direct contemplation on the nature of self and reality that results in a direct realization of the nature of reality. It does not focus on cultivating experiences (such as merely experiencing awareness, presence, space-like awareness, or any other aspects of experience that becomes natural and implicit after realization). Rather, it goes right to the core of things, very quickly resulting in a direct realization of our true nature. As an analogy I consider self-inquiry (Who am I? that leads to I AM realization), Zen koans (but I'm not a Zen master so can't offer more insights on that), contemplation on non-dual (where does awareness end and manifestation begin, where is the border between awareness and manifestation, etc), contemplation on anatta like Bahiya Sutta (in seeing always just the seen) or Thusness's two stanzas of anatta, contemplating on where thought arise from, where thought abides and where thought goes to (effective for shunyata insight), all these are forms of direct path contemplation. As for gradual practice: for example, practicing 'Awareness Watching Awareness', turning the light of awareness upon itself and so on is a gradual method that focus on the experience of I AM but eventually can lead to realization after the experience has matured and stabilized. Even stuff like Kundalini can result in I AM experiences of cosmic consciousness, and that too is a gradual path practice (though one I am not familiar with). Vipassana practice and mindfulness practice (experiencing the minutest details of the senses as clear as can be) as Thusness and I understand it can result in Anatta realization in a more gradual manner. But I should say, when I advice people on how to move from non-dual to anatta, I always advice both direct path contemplation and also the practice of vipassana and mindfulness. So it is not always an 'either/or' case. In a way both can support each other. Without a clear sense of non-dual luminosity, it is also hard for a real effective contemplation on Bahiya Sutta. Without any prior experience of non-conceptual Pure Presence, it is also not easy for self-inquiry to be so effective as one will be looking into conceptual thoughts for answers rather than looking at the reality of their non-conceptual Presence. For example Ch'an Master Hsu Yun focus primarily on self-inquiry, but also talks in one instance about 'turning hearing inwards to perceive one's self-nature', which is basically the practice of 'Awareness Watching Awareness' that Michael Langford talks about. The main focus however, if you want to practice direct path, is to focus on inquiring 'Who am I?' My practice and the practice I advice is going to differ according to your aims, and where you are in your practice. By that I mean for example, when I had no inkling about what my real nature is, I took up the practice of self-inquiry to realize the I AM. But after the I AM, you should focus on the four aspects of I AM. To move into non-dual, the practice is not self-inquiry any more. You can put self-inquiry aside. Instead you should focus on the four aspects, in my case with impersonality first, then later emphasis shifted to the aspect of intensity of luminosity (practice shifts from experiencing luminosity as the background Source to experiencing luminosity as the foreground sensate world and aggregates - sights, sounds, bodily sensations and so on), plus with a particular form of contemplation that challenges the view of boundaries, subject and object, inside and outside. After arising insight into non-dual, you should then investigate into anatta like in Bahiya Sutta (in seeing just the seen). After anatta you should investigate on the 'disjoint, unsupported', as well as contemplate on Shunyata. So again these kind of practices and contemplations differ according to the phase of practice you're at. You should shift your practice as you progress - otherwise if after Self-Realization you get stuck on trying to abide in the I AM 24/7, you cannot progress into further stages of freedom and effortlessness that require deeper realizations. Some people get stuck in I AM for their whole lives not knowing there is anything further in spirituality. So do not stagnate for too long. Know the maps, know where you are and know how to practice accordingly, and your path will be faster and you will attain liberation more quickly. But if you have not gotten into any of these stuff, it's best to begin and focus on self-inquiry with the aim of Self-Realization. More practical advice on this subject can be found in the Conversations on Self-Inquiry section of the ebook. Apart from these direct path contemplations, daily practice of meditation (both in sitting and daily lives) is helpful, if not for gaining enough mental stability and calmness for true insights to arise, but also to develop the quality of tranquillity and deep samadhi (which will not easily arise without disciplined daily sittings, regardless of whether you have awakened to your true nature or not). In tranquillity, you learn how to drop your attachment to your body and mind, to all thoughts. This leads to tranquilizing of all mental and bodily agitations so that you can enter into a state of meditative absorption which can be very blissful. In meditation, you learn to let go of everything - mind, body, life, teachings, concepts, worries, concerns, agitations, basically Everything. During those days when I practiced Self-Inquiry, Thusness taught me to dedicate sessions everyday apart from self-inquiry, to the practice of Dropping, which is the tranquillity practice I talked about. Of course we should practice letting go in everyday lives as well, but dedicating fixed periods for sitting meditation is also important. In fact, the whole purpose of Buddha's teachings is to teach us how to let go - of everything, relinquishing all clinging and craving. To be able to do this, there must be insight and tranquillity. As the Buddha said, both insights and tranquillity in tandem is what allows complete liberation from afflictions to take place - both are necessary, both are required. But I do not focus too much about meditation in this book (not that it is not important - far from it), because I wish to focus more on the insight front and leave the details of meditation for other books which have elucidated on those topics far better than I. As an intro, you should read Dakpo Tashi Namgyal's "Clarifying the Natural State" and his more detailed and technical "Mahamudra: The Moonlight" along with Thrangu Rinpoche's commentaries on these texts in books "Crystal Clear" and "Essentials of Mahamudra". All these books are full of deep meditative insights and experiences from clearly awakened masters. In Buddhism, we say that a person who wishes to attain awakening and liberation should master three fronts: morality, samadhi, and insight/wisdom. This e-book focuses on the insight/wisdom front, but by no means implying that morality and samadhi are unimportant. However, many other books have dealt with these topics to a much greater degree than I, and I do not have something better to offer than them in this regards. But basically, if you have truthfulness, harmlessness and generosity in your life, this is going to be of beneficial help to your pursuits in samadhi and wisdom, because a mind attached to lying, harming, and selfishness is going to cause afflictive hindrances (hatred, guilt, greed, and other mental disturbances or hindrances) preventing true samadhi and insight from arising. The cultivation of virtue itself can also cause a wholesome joyous mind, and a joyous mind or a mind imbued with good mental qualities like loving-kindness, compassion, joy and equanimity is conducive to the cultivation of concentration and insight. The cultivation of virtues also result in merits, which are an important requisite for awakening, a topic I shall not elaborate here but is already explained in other forum threads such as http://sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/409161?page=1#posts-9963001 The Result/Fruition You may be wondering, what is all these fuss about? Why should I bother with these stuff? Why get awakened? What is the results out of this? Is there any practical transformations in life? There are many "awakened persons" who say there are no perceivable differences apart from perhaps having a sense of resolving these stuff, the end of seeking, the end of false notions about self, maybe more clarity in life. But to me, in my experience, when you have sufficiently deep insight and experience, a far more profound and life-changing transformation takes place. As spoken in the other chapter in the e-book on maps of awakening, speaking from experience, I can report a gradual emotional transformation or attenuation after the initial insight into anatta. I shall not repeat the details here but summarize them. Here's what I know can be attained through deep awakening (at this moment these are the ones more apparent to me but as time progresses there could be more): - a permanent freedom from all delusions of pertaining to the view of an existing self or object - freedom from any sense of self, separation, alienation from the world, self-contraction - freedom from attachment to a sense of a body-mind, drop off body-mind - no more inside and outside or any kind of boundaries and weight - freedom from craving, anger, fears, sorrow, attachments, or any afflictive emotions - pure bliss and wonder and delight in the intimate and intense aliveness of every moment's experience due to effortless and perpetual NDNCDIMOP: non-dual, non-conceptual, direct, immediate mode of perception of reality - deep sense of wakefulness, clarity and aliveness - sleep need reduced by up to half, wakefulness and alertness increased very much - thought activity decreases, discursive thoughts lessens tremendously, replaced by NDNCDIMOP - thoughts that do arise self-releases without trace According to Buddha, when you achieve full awakening in the Hinayana level (the attainment of personal liberation, Arhantship), it also confer things like 'ending the cycle of rebirth' in the literal sense of not having to be reborn again and again in this world of suffering - but then I shall not dwell into this, understanding that not all readers may accept such a doctrine (I do - and past lives are something that can be recalled in meditation so to me it is more than just a theory or a belief, furthermore scientific research like those by Dr. Ian Stevensons backs rebirth). If you are into Mahayana like I do, my aim is to attain full Buddhahood for the sake of benefitting mass sentient beings which is not merely personal liberation - Buddhahood confers things like great compassion, mastery of skillful means in teaching, omniscience, mastery of supernatural powers and the ten virtues (paramis) and so on. I am not a Buddha - just learning and practicing to be one. Anyhow, the effects of awakening I have currently observed are the natural result of having discovered a true and accurate way of perceiving things, freed from the view and sense of self and objects, resulting in just the NDNCDIMOP of the sensate world as it is. It should be understood that you should not focus on removing emotions head on, or removing thoughts head on, or removing sense of self head on. Why? If you do not go for the roots, but try to cut off the branches, then you leave the root intact. Your delusion is intact even if you managed to 'get rid of the sense of self' (just like your delusion is intact even if you managed to distant yourself from the illusory snake that actually is a rope). But once you cut off the root ignorance, the branches are dealt with, or they naturally fall away easily. So when realization occurs, you honour realization first, understanding that there is no liberation from afflictions without first liberation from ignorance via true knowledge and vision of things as they are. You don't sit in meditation all day trying to cultivate 'thoughtlessness'. You don't try sitting in meditation all day to 'get rid of the self' or 'get rid of emotions'. These are naturally dealt with in the maturation of true insight and experience. They are a natural result of clarity. Also, if self-view and sense of self is not relinquished, people generally treat 'letting go' as a form of dissociative practice. 'I' or the 'witnessing awareness' dissociate from 'my feelings', as if there are two things that can separate from each other. This simply strengthens the delusion of self, leading to more clinging, not liberation. This is why Thusness warned a long time ago: "...When one is unable to see the truth of our nature, all letting go is nothing more than another form of holding in disguise. Therefore without the 'insight', there is no releasing.... it is a gradual process of deeper seeing. When it is seen, the letting go is natural. You cannot force yourself into giving up the self... purification to me is always these insights... non-dual and emptiness nature...." Even if you are able to achieve a state of letting go to a high degree and you enter into samadhi, this is merely a temporary state where afflictions are temporarily in abeyance or suppressed. This is ok - but keep in mind they are merely suppressed, not uprooted. Only wisdom in tandem with samadhi can uproot afflictions permanently. One last thing: Buddha teach practice (such as the four foundations of mindfulness, seven factors of awakening, and so on) from his awakened experience, sort of like working backwards for sentient beings, translating his experience into practices. In other words, the experience of pure alertness, clarity, equanimity, and so on... are qualities natural in one's experience after realization, but before realization they are difficult to be experienced effortlessly (though that doesn't mean we shouldn't practice to experience them). It should be known that there is a difference between practice after realization and the practice before realization. After realization, practice is effortless, without any attempt to modify experience - just resting in the natural equipoise on reality. Such can also be spoken of as 'non-meditation' since it is not really effortful practice. It should be understood however that only an awakened person can experience 'non-meditation', an unawakened person attempting to do 'non-meditation' will only fall under the power of their own conditioning. For example they may mistake lazing around and day-dreaming with 'non-meditation', which is a tragedy. The conditioning here means falling into the magical spell of duality, the stories about 'me' and 'the world', the stories of 'I', 'me', and 'mine'. An awakened person who realizes the nature of reality is able to overcome his view of inherent and duality, because there is no deluded views about 'I', no 'mine', and no 'other' (objects), the awakened person does not give rise to delusion and attachment (therefore requires no effort or antidote) and is naturally and effortlessly authenticated by the unity of luminosity and emptiness (Buddha-nature) in the midst of their life, not just in sitting meditation. For such a practitioner, all thoughts and perceptions are in a state of self-releasing or self-liberation, no effortful practice or antidote is necessary because what self-releases does not cause harm or delusion. Due to the view of emptiness naturally being authenticated in daily life, a person does not grasp on 'I', 'me', 'mine' and 'things', and due to non-grasping, there is also no need to make special effort to 'let go' - there is no problems (attachment due to inherent view) that need to be remedied. As an analogy: a person suffering hallucination may imagine there to be a beautiful paradise in front of him, so he chases after the mirage experiencing craving, attachment, and suffering. Because of his sickness, the person needs to be treated with an antidote - some kind of medication to prevent the outbursts of mania. Such is the dilemma of sentient beings. Seeing things as real and inherent, we grasp and crave after them, but an awakened person knows better - there is no person, nor object that is real - everything is illusory. Having no delusions about it, such a person does not give rise to grasping and naturally no remedy is needed. Such an awakened being is also not delusioned about there being a 'special state' that he therefore craves after (after all, everything is empty) - he is not seeking after some nice transcendental experience, therefore no effort is required, but is simply liberated on the spot. The need for effort and meditation only arise when one feels some suffering, deviation, or distraction that requires 'antidote', but for one who effortlessly rests in the equipoise on reality, does not require antidote, meditation and effort. But until then, meditate hard, practice hard to awaken (and it doesn't mean after awakening you don't need to sit, but it becomes effortless without agenda or attempt to modify our experience - even the Buddha does regular sitting meditation just because it is healthy and promotes well-being). Do not underestimate the power of our karmic conditioning - it affects our every moment experience until awakening. Also, before realization, it is truly difficult to experience things like 'the luminosity of the textures and forms of manifestation', 'non-dual, non-conceptual, direct, immediate mode of perception' and things like that. As Thusness said to me before, to stress on these things to people is to cause them more unnecessary frustrations. They simply cannot see it, even though we (after realization) see it all the time - we can't even unsee it. So the practical thing is not to emphasize these things to them again and again, but advice them to set aside time every day to meditate, practice mindfulness, practice contemplation. Eventually when realization arises, these qualities become effortless. But you can't tell them to experience mindfulness 24/7 - that is just not possible. It would be very good already if they can experience pure clarity in their relatively brief period of sitting meditation, let alone for the entire day. But after Anatta, it seems that this brilliant non-dual luminosity is very effortless - I don't need to practice anything to be in NDNCDIMOP or the pure consciousness experience. I don't need to practice 30 minutes of mindfulness or meditation to reach a state of pure consciousness or NDNCDIMOP. Every ordinary and mundane experience even in daily life and non-meditation setting is already implicitly so. Before awakening, such experiences seem hard to attain, and are rare and intermittent, requiring much effort in practicing mindfulness and meditation, but after awakening it becomes realized and experienced as the natural state, experienced in real-time in everyday living. Like Simpo said, "IMO, before the insight of no-self, it is quite hard to not get caught at the content level. This is because, before the non-dual, non-conceptual experience/insight, one does not know how 'not getting caught' in the content is like." That is why insight is important. But don't worry if you don't experience all those qualities before awakening - it is very difficult to, but it becomes natural after insight, so just focus on insight.

Watch the Dalai Lama's talk on The Four Noble Truths (netflix). http://www.amazon.com/Dalai-Lama-Four-Noble-Truths/dp/B00005UO7Q The "key" to all Buddhism is Dependent Origination. The Four Noble Truths are about Dependent Origination. To understand Dependent Origination, find five Absolute Bodhicitta aphorisms, and repeat them numerously, everyday,...for example. Treat everything you perceive as a dream. Find the consciousness you had before you were born. You will never understand Who you are, until you realize When you are. There is no Present in Time. Between meditations, treat everything as an illusion. An Absolute Bodhicitta aphorism is a ground upon which Bodhicitta can be realized. Relative Bodhicitta aphorisms are fine,...but only address the relative. "Relative and absolute, These the two truths are declared to be. The absolute is not within the reach of intellect, For the intellect is grounded in the relative." Shantideva 9.2

Thanks to Shin Buddhism, I see no inconsistency in doctrine (not that doctrine is a reason to believe or disbelieve anything) between seeing the sacred life in all things, the drop of water in all life corresponding to the ocean, or the spirit in us that is the spirit of the Creator, that is, that is the Creator, that is, that the Creator is, or whatev we experience this as. I never felt like going for transmissions and all that stuff. I've been reading about Dzogchen and Rigpa, and what they describe as rigpa does not seem so impossible to realize on one's own with the righ amount of background study, yet they still say "but you can't know it properly without one of our transmissions." I'm just not buying that. So I'm going to go and get someone to touch me on the shoulder and make me feel nice and then strive for that feeling all time, when it's only something that already happens within me at certain times. Not to mention, as Seth did, so many people get these "transmissions" only to fall into the trap of all this pride that "now I've got a transmission, and Speedy's gonna do my windows finally. (non-westerners google "cause at speedy" if you missed that one)" when if this transmission doesn't even get them over THIS hump then they need to get granny's transmission of a slap upside the head for thinkin they's a big shot first. Hurts to know that the places we migt believe we can really get farther spiritually are just full of too many people that just "wanna be somebody" and they don't even get past THAT stage before they receive some super high double double transmission. WTF. The spiritual world has always been like this. Every serious dude says this exact same stuff (not that doing so makes me any more or less like them). Anyway, for these reasons, to whoever cares for advice (let alone MY advice) I say read everything you can and get every angle possible from the people who you know really know what there was to know, and then seek to learn more about what you want to learn about. Just figure out what you want to learn and then learn that from who ever and however you want to or can. Learn to love more, to fear less, to have energy, to dream and create, and to make macromay. If I can meditate for 12 days straight, thats great, but if I gained nothing more of what I really want to accomplish spiritually and otherwise from doing so.. ok, rant over

Yeah I spent 20 years doing ecological activism -- greenpeace, earth first!, citizens for a better environment, UW-Greens, clean water action, Resource Center of the Americas - those are non-profits I worked for. I got arrested at least half a dozen times protesting. I organized campaigns that got concrete results. The main thing I learned is that humans should not "save the planet" but rather Mother Nature saves us -- we do activism because we don't have a choice. haha. So if people are not effective in activism then that is o.k. -- there is no need to "save" or even "defend" Mother Nature because she will always win in the end. Activists tend to get neurotic and are over-stressed, etc. but there's also a controlling dynamic going on -- and the thing is that it is important to achieve results - public results on the record -- but at the same time people often get confused -- seeing it as a materialist power struggle. So if a person gets results then that person must want to just get personal power. haha. This causes organizations to have internal power struggles -- all the time. Most people involved with non-profits in activism just want a decent job that will ideally get them a decent house and a car. So the "American Dream" lives on in the non-profit scene. The lessons from Mother Nature are too radical for the modern city dweller -- we take our power for granted. I live in the country now - we lose our power regularly. All the shit of humans gets wasted into clean water when it should be composted into fertilizer. So when we run out of oil then these lessons will hit hard. Yeah Mother Nature will win -- human civilization is just like a catastrophe of extinction on Earth -- like a comet hitting Earth or a supervolcano going off. In the biogeochemical cycles that cover the billions of years of life on earth -- most of life is microscopic bacteria. So if evolution starts over without humans - that is a normal process. As for our spiritual nature -- the astral spirit needs strong electromagnetic chi energy to power it. Only very rarely do any humans cultivate this in our modern times on earth. And for what purpose is unclear. Buddhism considers rebirth as a human as a means to gain enlightenment -- but that is only a small blip of biological evolution on Earth. It seems silly to consider humans so important when we represent such a minute amount of time of ecological history on Earth. Ecology is the real radical science -- and civilization goes against evolution not for it. So Taoism and the Bushmen shamanism and the indigenous shamanistic cultures are not human-centered. Like Jet Li says in Fearless -- the tea leaves may be graded differently by humans but the tea leaves don't judge themselves so tea is tea. there may be different levels of skills but people compete to better know themselves. haha.

An Ode to Loneliness: Left the house at 8 a.m -- going into the cold rain just above freezing. Ran down to my leaf fort in the woods -- an army cot with a comforter surrounded by three feet of leaves as insulation in a buckthorn pop-tent style construction with some foam insulation board and some tarps. Crawled in -- no space to move. Finally fell asleep. Had a couple lucid dreams from the really fresh outside oxygen air. Dreamt I was in my leaf fort only the fort was moved to different locations. In my dream I said - wow this is so real but how do I know I'm not dreaming? Then this pretty female with red hair and green eyes said I should kiss her if I was dreaming. haha. So after a nice open mouth kiss I said -- yeah that's too good to be true I must be dreaming. So then I woke up. Had a few more lucid leaf fort dreams like that then I heard the noon siren go off. It was still a cold rain and I didn't have any food yet but I had enough sleep now -- I had chanted Om Mandi Padme Hum before I slept -- chanted doing mind yoga while laying on the army cot -- for a good half hour. Now I ventured into the cold rain and I got a fire of buckthorn going in the burn barrel. Had to start it in the rain. But I had collected the wood yesterday so I was prepared. It was soaked wood though. Got it going. Was getting too cold from getting wet in the rain. So then I took an old kid's little swimming pool and set it upside down over a couple of trash cans. So then I sat under that as the fire burned -- had some newspaper under me so I wouldn't get too muddy. The fire was going good but the rain was too strong. I was getting cold. Back to the leaf fort to lie on the army cot. Laid there for as long as possible chanting Om Mani Padme Hum. A couple of hours about -- lying on the army cot in my leaf fort in the woods alone. Waiting for time to pass but then pondering how in meditation time could disappear. Happy that the comforter and the leaf insulation was keeping my body heat insulating the little leaf fort -- just could change positions on the army cot. The rain kept up strong. Finally had to see if I could go back into the house. Left the woods and went back to the burn barrel into the cold rain. Fire still going but almost out. Added more wood and got it going again - fanning the burn barrel to get oxygen in there. Then I was called to drive to Goodwill to deliver to stuff for donation. Was happy to get out of the cold rain as I wasn't that wet yet. It had been seven hours thus far for the day. I enjoyed being alone outside. Still being the car with classical music and the heat blasting felt like Shangri-La. haha.

When you tap a bell, it makes a sound that is derived from its physical form. The resulting tonality is indicative of infinitely more than just pitch and amplitude. The harmony of the natural order is a radiance, like an omni-directional echo... It is not an enforced systematization. There is (of course) much reactivity seemingly demanded by the "corruption" of the world we live in. And make no mistake, the civilized world that people have made is truly fucked up and incredibly dysfunctional. But while an effort to save the world is indeed noble... in essence, it is the same shit, different day. It is the externalization of ideals at the expense of personal integrity. It is another easy way out. Forcing the issue is already at hand, expanding options for the issue is not. Animals are motivated to survive by the fear of death. Challenging this motivation will not be easy, by any means - however it is the purpose of humans to rise to this challenge and derive a new motivation from it. Consciousness growth is the increasing interconnectivity between word and deed and thought and action and feeling and sensation and intuition and reason - and so on. It is activism at a primordial level. There is a distinct clarity of purpose when alignment between intent and expression is cohesively supported by the harmony of the natural order. When there is a great dissonance between intent and expression, mind and body, left and right, etc. the chips fall where they may, the other shoe drops, and so forth. Unfortunately such dissonance tends to contribute to apprehensions of the natural order as chaos, which are further reinforced by the narrow focus of obsessive addictions - and that includes spiritual disciplines, practices, meditations, studies, and so forth. The masturbatory aspect of bliss junkies spending all day on the meditation mat in the beaming golden light of rainbow purity and magical awesomeness and so forth - that is not "growth". It is yet another addiction, another cage, another slavery - and although there are much more favorable results for this kind of addiction in the short term, the long term results are the same as any other addiction. Ananda is only part of the equation in sat-cit-ananda. The unbalanced or obsessive approach may work in the context of a personal endeavor to generate sufficient escape velocity from the machinations of the social order, but it will only be a temporary and very conditional release until the missing functionality regarding the totality is consciously restored. And such functionality will be restored one way or another, sooner or later... and in the case of minds which are enslaved by their own obsessions - it will be done unconsciously, as it is easily possible to dream that you are awake. The totality will extract its due from your life, regardless of your ability to cooperate or not. If there is nothing left over for you, it is not a problem for the totality - it is only your problem. Freedom is available, but you must be willing to pay the price. As human beings who can potentially die at any given moment, the opportunity to consciously contribute is an ever-closing window that must be taken advantage of while it is still open. The "cubic centimeter of chance" is an apt metaphor. The addicted mind, the enslaved mind - is not rare, or uncommon. It is the most common thing, it is the lowest common denominator between ALL peoples. Starting with the victorious/defeated scenario of self-importance/self-pity, the spikes get driven in early, and they get driven in deep.

Hi Link Letting go is a good thing especially as a stand-alone practice but the letting go part in samyama should be the letting go of everything else which is not the object/sutra. You know, there are many kinds of samadhi ranging from light with seed, deep with seed and deep without seed. Here is a link: types of samadhi The interesting thing on that page is this: "Entering samādhi initially takes great willpower and maintaining it takes even more will." My experience with samadhi from practising Deep Meditation has been "a very short bob" into the depth, like a buoy that bobs up and down on a stormy ocean. And upon returning, the mind feels like it is returning from sleep or a happy whiteout. And, if I do not bob, I inevitably progress through to the dreaming stage where I get bombarded with visions and dream-like videos. I believe this is the state of laya, from the quote from Patanjali that I listed previously: "called laya or a state of passive dullness leading to all the miseries of irresponsible mediumship. " Actually I spent a few years doing that, thinking that that was proper technique until I started researching it and found that AYP's definition of dharana is not conventional. My experience with samadhi from the Patanjali's classic samyama is like one meditation today which lasted 35 minutes: Sit in meditation posture, do some kunlun type deep breathing, drawing in the prana and focusing on the dark smoke while exhaling while sitting on a lotus in the middle of the blue sky.. 4 minutes. Short bout of Anapanasati, relaxing the body, letting go, deeply relaxing the face and watching the breath. Think the mantra "AUM". See the light inside the center of the head. Focus on the meaning of AUM (God's word), the sound of OM and the light. Lose it, so repeat. Persist at this for about 7 minutes until the mind calms down. The light becomes brighter. Sustain concentration on the meaning of AUM, clearer of obstacles, word of God, hear the AUM resonate, see the light. Turn up the concentration. Attempt to forge a steady stream. Maintain focus. The light becomes very bright, like an arc welder's torch. Tingles and waves start coming out of the heart going upwards. The light grows. Stream of bliss starts to occur. Body falls away. Mind falls away. Immense light and bliss, joy, peace... tibetan bell timer goes off.. rats! So you see, both techniques "work", it's just that they don't take you to the same place, do they? The goal of Patanjali's samyama is to develop concentration to the point where you can hold onto anything with a steady stream of awareness, whether that be an object, a sutra, empty space, or even the feeling of being. Without the ability to fix, hold on, sustain a steady stream of awareness, you just bob in and out. And from what I've read about TM meditators, they can bob in and out for decades without any self-realization or enlightenment. Isn't that the whole point of the exercise? Link, if you found something that was inaccurate, that was deceiving, that you were caught in for years, wouldn't you feel like you had an obligation to warn others about it? Isn't it your duty? If someone would have told me four years ago that the AYP meditation is actually a form of customized TM and not Patanjali's dharana/dhyana/samadhi, then I could have had the choice to follow or not. If someone would have told me that Yogani invented AYP, that he is trying to marry the TM and TM-siddhi program with Kriya Yoga wouldn't it be proper to tell people that instead of trying to claim that AYP is Patanjali's Eight Limbs of Yoga? Yogani says: link: http://www.aypsite.org/149.html If the eight limbs of yoga are so logical and easy to understand, how can Yogani have misinterpreted samyama, dharana and dhyana? And when I asked him about that, this was my response: Well, an understanding of the last three limbs of yoga has benefited me greatly. And it was obtained by comparing the AYP's interpretation to six other interpretations of Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (which all say basically the same classic thing). I am only interested in truth. Sometimes you have to dig deep and upset some people in order to find it. I don't have to discredit AYP. If one starts to closely examine it's teachings, customizations, practices, it discredits itself. But a novice would never discover that on their own. You have to dig deep and know your stuff... You asked... So, if you are unwilling or unable to tell us about the differences between the experiences of classic samyama and AYP's samyama, it makes me wonder what your purpose is here. What are you basing your claims on? What do you practice now? Are you perhaps someone from AYP trying to maintain the parrot and the brown-noser? TI

haha. Yeah you want the feet up against the hips as Wang, Liping detailed. I didn't know that but then yesterday after I did a good meditation session with my feet against my hips -- I could feel this amazing acupressure energy on my hip spot and it felt great -- like that's where my feet belong. haha. Still when I did my 2 hour session this morning then my feet slide down by my knees. Still on the thighs though. Actually then I was doing lifting -- you know lifting up your body while in full lotus. I could only do that for about a minute. I wanted to do a handstand in full lotus but I've never even down a hand stand normally. haha. Just wasn't that interested -- I mean as a kid against a wall. Anyway I realized it takes amazing arm strength to go into a hand stand from full lotus. I gotta watch that Eddie Bravo vid again to see how he did it. Still the real focus should be on sublimated and transforming the life force energy into chi. I can feel as my chi gets deconverted by people around me sucking it back down to sex fluids -- as that's where their electromagnetic focus is on -- creating sex fluids. So then I just go back into full lotus at the computer, even though I'm not meditating -- and that reverses the damage. Last night I almost lost the alchemical pill. Or this morning. Anyway I was sleeping and a dream turned on me and then as I have successfully done -- I woke myself up before I lost anything and immediately did the PV muscle flexing and then I went into full lotus on the bed. So then I thought I was really doomed as I also had to take a leak -- so I wouldn't have time to sublimate the sex energy. So then the energy was going into my skull and the tendons on my neck were cracking and snapping as the sex fluid went into my skull cavity. haha. So I thought maybe I have a chance. I relaxed and tried to bring the energy back down the front as well -- to purify it. I waited in full lotus as long as possible until my bladder was bursting. then when I pissed there was no foam! So I was amazed I had not gotten it stuck in the prostate as it was a close call to be sure. So then after I finished my 2 hour full lotus session then I felt the chi electromagnetic energy so that I had good protection during the day against the lower emotional attacks. haha. Oh I got it -- so when he went into full lotus with no hands - he leans his body way backwards. Wow. that makes sense. I was trying to do no hands while sitting upright on a big foot rest deal I sit on -- not back even. haha. then when he goes into full lotus in head stand -- I was in full lotus and trying to do a head stand! haha. He does a head stand and then goes into full lotus. big difference. Still I just sit in full lotus. I haven't practiced flexibility. But I do remember when the electromagnetic fields were really strong I literally felt as limber as a baby. It was really strange. I never tested my flexibility at that point - but it reminds me of how Dr. Andrew Weil said when he did LSD then he could do these yoga poses but then when the LSD wore off he could no longer do them. haha.