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Sure. I still respect deeply China but the legacy left by rye ancient world which is a true legacy to the whole of humanity not only the Chinese. BUT I have my reservations based on: 1. My teacher's experience of living and studying in China (period 1998-2002). He wasn't impressed. He also came across fake monks paid by the Gov. in order to make money out of the temples they were in charge of. 2. A Westerner who lives the ancient Way and has got a great deal of knowledge about the country. He is well known here and elsewhere online and he's also an author. He is not Bruce Kumar Frantzis btw. He told me you'll find better teachers in countries like Taiwan and the West than in the mainland. Excessive commercialism and lack of depth is what is commonly found in mainland China especially in known mountains like Wudang. 3. After watching the film Ascension (2021), I realised that the Chinese dream of becoming an economic superpower will forever undermine the growth of spirit. This will be felt in generations to come. "Keep America Great" is a motto seen throughout the film but applied to the Chinese experience. Greatness at the cost of everything else? Is this path worth it? BALANCE IS THE KEY, CHINA. Remember this before you turn into the next super 'civilised' and highly technological and materialistic giant with NO SOUL.

Consider how one appears in a dream. The dream world was already happening. If I'm convinced the waking world does not disappear for "others" as I dream, is it unreasonable to assume the dream world also persists when I'm "awake"? Do "they" of the dream world see me as "unconscious" once I've "awoken?" If when I'm "awake" the world appears as if it were a dream, is there any difference between their appearances? If I perceive no differences, what does real or unreal even mean?

Nungali, One of the options you mention is a resolution; the other, a dream. I'm open to the possibilities of life.

Totally plausible. man, you are a dreamer ! hey, it’s a fabulous marvelous dream. keep close to Dao, my friend

Hi qicat, I'm happy to share some thoughts. Our minds generate everything we see, everything we think, everything we are, in their interaction with surrounding conditions. If I pay attention, I notice all sorts of thoughts, images, impression, and internal dialogues arising throughout the day. Even how we interpret and experience things we assume are 'outside' ourselves - sights, sounds, smells, tastes... It's all a reflection of our mind. Where does this all come from? Our experience, desires, aversions, memories, unresolved conflict, and so forth. Same thing for dreams - they are just that same activity of the mind occurring during sleep. Everything we encounter, everything that affects us, will play out in our dreams. Meditation and qigong both open us to a deeper connection to ourselves - repressed and suppressed emotion and memories will come up as our practice deepens and strengthens. My Daoist meditation master said one of the benefits of practicing meditation is that it allows us to face and work through this stuff while we are young and healthy. He said that eventually everyone must face it all and most people face it without training or preparation when they are frail, sick, and close to death. He used to attribute the extremely high rate of suicide in the elderly to this part, in part. So I would suggest that it is normal to dream and it is expected that your dreams will reflect your daily life. Adding meditation and qigong to your life will potentially lead to richer, more intense dreams, and it is likely that you will face deeper and potentially more disturbing things that you've hidden away. Over time, if your daily life becomes more well-adjusted, more peaceful, more at ease through these practices, your dreams will as well. I practice yogas of dream and sleep. In dream yoga, we train ourselves to recognize we are dreaming in the dream and to take control of the dreamscape. In learning to be in control in our dreams, we can similarly be in control of, and make changes in, our waking lives, often in ways we would not have thought possible. Sleep yoga focuses more on examining and experiencing the process of transition between waking and sleep. It usually passes in an instant, in ignorance, with no memory, and yet as we learn to observe the transition it is seen to be a gradual, multi-layered, and fascinating process of dissolution of the self. It is thought to be somewhat similar to the dissolution experienced at the time of death. With practice, we can ride our awareness right into sleep and rest in the experience of perfect clarity and awareness in deep sleep, in the absence of dreams. This is thought to be very similar to the first Bardo encountered in death (there are several). Recognizing this in sleep can make us more likely to recognize our true face in death which is said to be a door to liberation from the cycles of samsara. Edited to add a few words about energy - One explanation from the Tibetan tradition is that the genesis of a dream is a combination of a subtle "wind" (Tibetans use the word wind, subtle movement of energy, to describe what others call prana or qi) interacting with an energy center or chakra. Since we carry our emotional life in our chakra system, the chakra that is stimulated will determine the nature of the dream. In practicing dream yoga, one method is to focus on specific chakras and generate visualizations in that chakra as we fall asleep. This allows us to influence the type of dream we are likely to have (this is divided into categories like peaceful, wrathful, and powerful). So as our energetic life changes through qigong, naturally our dreams will reflect this.

Thanks @Daniel That sounds like a helpful dream interpretation heuristic. My dreams in the past have been centred around the unconscious trying to ignore the major problems, and also giving me wrong info so I'm inclined to think this was more of a fake out. Thinking about the dream more, the folio had a special blackness to it. Like it was charred black from being in a fire or made in a fire. When faced with the issues my dreams would be about time travel and thus avoiding said problems

So I have been reading a book regarding the Tibetan practice of dream yoga, or what they call 'clear light dreams' which is equivalent to what western psychologists call lucid dreams. I have been interested in the subject of lucid dreaming for awhile, but with only a few books published on the topic directly, I am having to deal with the religious thinking of Tibetan Buddhists to get a concise understanding of dream yoga by adepts. Aside from the Tibetans, I was wondering if this idea of lucid dreaming has been included in the Taoist, Hindu, or other inclusive spiritual practices besides that of the Tibetan.

I agree with you that Mr Sigh does not identify himself with anything, and that that's the whole point of the story. We seem to be talking past each other about what I mean by awareness. I don't quite say to identify with "a forever present awareness"--that way of saying it makes awareness sound like a thing (a type of soul or something). I do say to identify with awareness (the here-and-now field of consciousness), which is ever present. If this sounds like hair-splitting, I don't mean it be. To identify with the here-and-now field of consciousness is not to identify with anything. Your here-and-now field of consciousness isn't a discrete thing that can be pointed to, or which persists through time. It isn't a thing, it's the that in which this and that thing is now present. It's the "constant mind", which is like the mirror-surface of a still pond (Chapter 5). It's the "large constant", which is like the common element between different fields or ponds (Chapter 21): Animals that eat grass don’t hate having to change pastures. Insects that live in water don’t hate having to change ponds. They go along with the small differences and don’t lose the large constant, so delight and anger, grief and joy, don’t enter some vacancy in their breast. All under heaven is the that in which the myriad things are one. Attain this that in which they’re one, and identify with it, and your four limbs and hundred joints will be but dust and dirt, and death and birth, end and beginning, will be but day and night, and none of them able to disturb you, much less the distinctions drawn by gain and loss, misfortune and good fortune! Awaking to this ever-present field of consciousness is a "large awakening", awaking to the realisation that being awake is a "large dream" (Chapter 2).

Dreams with meaning are tricky. Sometimes the message is straight forward, sometimes it's the complete opposite of what is perceived. IF the dream is straight forward, it sounds as if you have the knowledge you seek already, it was given as a gift, and that others with less intellect ( the bad comedian and the stupid girl ) have the knowledge, the answer to your dilemma already. And the dream is your subconscious reacting to the frustration of not following the simple solution, what the others already know. In this case, the answer to your dilemma is the simple solution that you already have at hand. BUT it could be the opposite, the knowledge contained in the folio and the books could turn out to be empty pages, thus making it a bad joke played on you by the comedian and a worthless info possessed by the stupid girl.

Very There are several practices. Different practitioners respond better to certain practices than others. Therefore, while there is a general outline of practices, there is a lot of flexibility. Basic abiding meditation practice is the most important on the dzogchen path. Other support practices include the ones I mentioned above from the Mother Tantra - dream, sleep, bardo, phowa, tummo. Yet others are related to 'lower' vehicles of Bön, such as practices with the 5 elements and soul retrieval. Some are available for free, others can be accessed online with payment, yet others are only available through direct instruction. It depends on the individual and what they are looking to get from the practices. I do formal practice 1-2 hours daily depending on my schedule. Informal practice is something we gradually integrate into our daily lives over time until life itself is the practice, non-stop. Some, like dream and sleep yoga, are practiced continuously throughout the day and night in a 24 hour cycle. The end point is abiding in the nature of mind continuously throughout all aspects of life - dream, sleep, waking, and death; leading to an easier transition into death and liberation from the cycle of rebirth in the bardo or at least a favorable rebirth. One lifetime, unlike tantric and sutric practices which are said to require multiple lifetimes. There are practices that have fixed endpoints such as phowa, transference of consciousness at the time of death. Similarly there are visionary practices (called thod gal) that are finite like dark retreat, sun gazing, and sky gazing. Dream and sleep practices are generally taken as a part of daily life with no specific endpoint. Formal and informal abiding practices (known as trek chöd) are also taken as a continuous part of daily life.

@Danielthat sounds like its on the right track. I'm always amazed at getting dream interpretations from other people. Sometimes its things that seem so obvious but I can't see myself. What I don't follow then is what the symbol of a book means here. The basic level it seems to indicate knowledge. @BindiI would agree with that as well. In terms of vehement rejecting, I guess that must be the case. However, the quagmire of a life situation I've been dealt is such that I have to do certain things in a specific order to get out of the situation. These things preclude me from accessing emotional stuff and just anything that would get me close to feminine 'things', let alone a physical embodiment of feminine. So I'm trying to figure out if my dream is just trying to agitate me or poke fun. Lately my subconscious and dreams have been very rude and unhelpful.

But of course. Luckily ZZ very explicitly says what it is in his concluding line: "this is what the transformation of living things upon death is'. https://ctext.org/zhuangzi/adjustment-of-controversies/ens#n2732 "此之谓物化。" 物化 物化 wù huà (literary) to die You see back in those time a hot philosophical topic was what happens to the "I" upon death. The opinions varied and ZZ, as evinced by this story decided that what happens is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metempsychosis The story is about how he remembered in his dream that he was a butterfly in the previous life. His butterfly personality is NOT his Chou personality, the former was changed 化 into the latter , ONLY the recollection of the former remained with the latter.

I believe we interpret energy differently depending on our mental baggage. For instance someone may interpret the energy as a chakra cracking open where as you have seen wires. This is a possibility. It's possible that all this mental imagery coming from your mind is a delusion. That is not to say its not happening and its untrue, however what I mean is it is like a dream, a mirage. The key to all of this is, if we start believing the dream is real, it becomes real and it starts having power over you. To compound matters further, if you believe this mental imagery is coming from, and created by an external force it also gains power over you. Thirdly, if you fear it and try to fight it, it gains power over you. How do we work to free ourselves. We make a decision that the mental imagery is created by us and is arising from our unconscious mind. We make a decision that when the mental imagery presents itself, it is automatically dismissed as just the imagination at play and like a dream, it has no substantial substance. We make a decision to stop fighting this mental imagery, as it is self created, knowing that if we do fight against it, we are only fighting against ourselves.

Eating cherry pie waking to this dream of place swallowing one bite

A natural, that's what I figured. It is interesting to see how people seem to have certain "talents" --- lots of stories can be told about that. I've never had a talent for things like this. I agree that the presentation of dreaming is the closest as to how I experience the dream and waking state. What do you think distinguishes an OBE from a hyper lucid dream?

FP does seem to be stronger when you have a good store of jing and are well rested... imo I see you were all talking about dreamk but i did not feel like posting although i had only just had a very interesting vivid dream which i think was influenced by fp. I have had very lucid dream for many years now and flying dreams are not uncommon. I used to get prophetic dreams sometimes very accurate, useless though and i was never grounded enough to try and change the outcom.... i dont really get that anymore perhaps very faintly and i think its due to illness. Anway i used to have flying dreams before practicing flying phoenix but not some times when i have flying dreams like i did a couple of days ago instead of just flying i actually flap my arms like a bird The dream i had it was a windy summers day along a road in the english country side at a village i used to live near, although it was not totally accurate, it was so windy i though i could fly and started flapping my arms...it was so vivid. I felt wind around my but mostly my palms of my hand, which is why i think flying phoenix might be why i was having this dreams because it felt a bit like the energy my palms emit when doing the practice and sometimes spontaneously when not practicing. I was just above cars, sticking to a road and the enviroment was changing like a proceedurally generated computer game... i made my self go high by flapping my arms... i started to make bird noises to freak out the people below me haha, but i ended up going really high up say like 50 ft perhaps more and i though this is pretty dangerous so i tried to go back down but couldnt. I tried to angle my arms to no avail, i tried to get into a ball but i just kept climbing and climbing then the dream ended. At least this time i didnt get stuck in a tree. Another reason i think that dream occured and was so vivid is because sometime i take a tincture called the flying potion which has reishi mushroom. red asparagus root, panax ginseng and shizandra berry. Its not uncommon for me to have flying dreams but when i take this stuff it can make me more lucid than usual. The guy i get it from goes by the name Nyishar you can find his site using google and his channel on youtube has some very well put together videos.

Ok, so say you decide to learn from books and you practice incorrectly which results in something that messes up your body or mind. Who do you go to for help after that? Do you message the author of the book (if you can find their personal details) and hope for a response? Do you come here and ask complete strangers who may or may not even have done those specific practices? Do you go to a doctor who will have zero idea of what you did or how to fix it? A teacher is not just for you to learn the correct methods, but to help you when things go wrong. These methods can be dangerous when practiced incorrectly, or even correctly but done for too long in one session. From my personal experience before I found teachers I was trying out all sorts of different meditations and downloading free PDFs of books and practices. Then after doing one exercise from one of Wang Liping’s books the vision in my left eye turned red and stayed like that all night. Lucky it went away in the morning but at least I learned not to fuck around and learn the proper way. There’s a reason it’s been taught this way for thousands of years, why change it because people nowadays are too impatient to wait and too cheap or selfish to pay or support a teacher who has mindblowing knowledge and experience that you can only dream about? PS: I also started off by reading Magus of Java, just keep an open mind, keep researching and you will eventually find the teachers who are right for you. PPS: I can confirm that the electric qi emission that Pak John does in his videos is 100% real having experienced the treatment myself. Many people on this site have also met someone who can do it, or can even do it themselves.

Whoa! Cool to see a newcomer asking the big questions right up front I have no knowledge of Mo Pai, so I can't talk about that. Also, there are people here with much more experience of these practices than me. But I do have some years' experience myself, so here goes... This is absolutely true. There are people out there using dubious credentials to extract large sums of money from the credulous. Otherwise sensible people do seem surprisingly capable of putting their critical faculties on hold in this field. I have direct experience of this. But I also have a second cousin who gave away all her money, savings, house etc. to a happy-clappy Christian group and left her kids with nothing. So it's not something that's limited to the Asian arts. My recommendation would be to be dubious of anyone who's selling the dream. These arts are like the martial arts or learning a musical instrument. The key to progress is diligent daily practice over an extended period. The investment you make in time and commitment has a much bigger impact on your progress than the up-front financial one. But for me, the specificity of the Daoist arts is that they are body-based arts. You talk about meditation, and that's cool with me (I'm into it ). But in my experience, it's not the cornerstone of the Daoist practices. They're much more concerned with energy, and thus the body. Now when it comes to meditation, I actually think you probably could learn it from a book. Purely in terms of techniques. But the thing about meditation is that if you commit to the practice, there are necessarily going to be times when you find yourself confronting stuff in your mind that you have spent a lot of your life trying to avoid. And at those times, it is valuable to be accompanied by someone who has been down that road before you. But like I say, the strictly Daoist stuff involves the body, and that makes it different. It's like, do you think you could learn the guitar properly off the internet? I mean, you could try, but you might end up with bad finger positioning or crappy timing. When there are really simple exercises that could have fixed that straightaway, if you'd had a teacher who could see how you were progressing and what stuff you needed to work on. So I suppose what I'm trying to say is that the fact you're right about the first part doesn't mean you don't need a teacher. Because technique is important. It's like with your dating stuff. If you wanted to devote your life to approaching women, I'm sure there are more and less effective ways of doing that. But I'm not suggesting you need a teacher to work out what they are...

Apparently I did some kundalini-yoga and meditations and now my ass and spine is on fire daily and someone took my minds quantum-remote and put it on shuffle. My house is also haunted with tiny lights that emit smoke and I can't even have a wank by myself anymore as I feel judged and get shocks up my spine messing with my john. I also keep on getting these annoying revelations about my life and how to improve myself. No one told me this would be like this, I just tried to hit on this yoga chick and did her practices apparently for too long. I then met some flaky people who tried to heal me with cacao-ceremony and how it's pronounced (khakhaaauw) but this basically tasted like crap, did nothing and felt like boofing a jug of water would have worked better. Also shitty foods make me sick so I'm forced to eat organic plantbased and focus on not aggrevating my daily ass-fires. I used to like smoke weed and sleep chill, but now I keep getting these cryptic lucid dreams where I try to sneak in some action with some dream-tail as I can't have a wank irl, but then an old guy materializes and hit me on the balls with his cane and I wake up with more scotumpains and blueballs. Even going out and having drinks makes my ass flare up, and trying to hit on girls I instantly get visions of the old man and feeling like he is about to flick my balls with his cane if I pursue. I met with this psychic master I was told, and she was all like "that is so great for you omg! you're awakening and healing" like jada jada I just wan't my old life back with a reasonably temperate prostate and no one haunting me giving me visions and guidance. I tried to get her number as I thought maybe it would cancel out my sex-jinx if she was psychic too, but she got super weird about it. Saying I should respect my journey and stop focusing on desires and all that horsecrap. Easy to say, like her ass isn't even being burned like that. 0/5 stars would not reccommend this at all. I'm just messing with you guys, I'm perfectly fine (mostly) but thought I wanted to make a welcome-post worthy of this forum. Humbled to be here though and look forward to continuing this inspiring journey with you guys.

? are they supposed to capture our thoughts 'on the way out ' or capture dreams for us and 'send them in' to our own dreams ? In the past people used to say " I was given a dream " now, in the modern world and with the modern mind , we say " I had a dream . " One of the more powerful things we can say about "I had a dream " is when it appears 'the dream' has a life of its own and turns into 'I have a dream' ... and it is also other people's dream that they are having . ... and in the even older sense , 'dream time' is a very deep and complex subject .

I just recently read a book by Danijel Turina called “Possibility of the new” and it was fantastic. The start was interesting, philosophical and very scholarly. Some of the historical facts were new to me, the arguments were useful and it was interesting to reconcile the views of spirituality with those of scientism. Things really started to get interesting at the chapter on “change of paradigm”. From then on my eyes were glued, popping out and my mouth was frequently wide open – either at the sheer beauty and poetry of the words expressed or the newness of the concepts. I'm still trying to make sense of the chapters on Angled shot and Lucifer. But I’ll leave people to read that for themselves: The book can be downloaded for free from his website: http://danijel.org/fileadmin/books/possibility_of_the_new.pdf Below are some quotes from the book, they may come across as a little out of context because I only included sections of the text, but they can still provide a taste for some of the contents in the book. Of course, it’s best to read the complete book in order to get the full meaning. I don’t normal recommend books to people but this one has been really refreshing: Morality of Darshan “Only when the darkness of human existence is stripped away from the soul, and when it finds itself in the presence of God, can one experience that incredible elation and relief, expansion, joy, reality – that is most closely comparable with the power of a nuclear blast, if we poetically describe it as the light that escaped from the bondage of the coarse matter, only in a spiritual sense. You can call this experience indescribable”, but that doesn't suffice, because many trinkets and trivia are indescribable, from orgasm to the scent offlowers. Had you spent your entire life paralyzed like Hawking, unable to move anything but your eyes, and additionally you had a brain injury that makes you incapable of feeling anything more than dull stupor, and at a single moment all that is stripped away from you, the entire mental capacity of greatest genius is made yours, together with the greatest mobility and dexterity, and knowledge that that, indeed, is your true state of being, and not a paralyzed brain damaged state, which is but an illusion, and the reality is the greatest glory and clarity and goodness, and that this reality has no end, that where you going is forever, well that's a limited way of describing the nature of an experience of ananda, the joy of Brahman.” “there's our foundation of morality: to remove from our consciousness and from the consciousness of other beings the ignorance, illusion, spiritual darkness and evil, so that in their consciousness the light of Brahman can shine – to remove its opposites, to dissolve spiritual obstacles, to be a flame of Brahman that sets ablaze the dry grass of human reality. That's our true morality, that is the meaning of doing good, that is the meaning of living the truth. The ethical meaning of human existence is therefore clear. One has to live in a way that makes those who feel you, feel the song of the Ainur1 and remember the shores of a distant land beyond Creation. How and what exactly doesn't matter. Your song is your own, and cannot be given to you, you need to make your own. From Brahman you take and create your own life in your own individual way, unrepeatable, unique, original, and you give something completely new, without any predefined limits. There are no ethical rules other than: be Brahman, and live so in the world. To refuse being Brahman and existing as Brahman is the foundation of all sin, if one understands sin as opposing the will of God, because the will of God is for Logos to be born in the world. The will of God is for Brahman to intrude into and exist in the world. That, if anything, is the lesson we must learn from the history of the Universe.” Ekam sat, ... “Hinduism has the concept of an avatar, a point of God's intrusion into the world with some specific goal or purpose, usually in a time of crisis, where an incarnate God leads mankind through crisis and into a new age. Theism is comparable to a situation where one dreams a dream from a third person perspective, observing some persons doing something, and at a certain point he becomes first-person aware, from a viewpoint of one of the characters involved. Theism is therefore a situation where the dreamer awakes within his dream as one of the characters, and starts acting in his dream as first-person aware. Since the dreamer has, in fact, limitless power to change anything within his dream, this explains the “miracles” within the material world. From a viewpoint of the material beings, those miracles are something impossible, but from the dreamer's viewpoint, it's just a dream and everything is possible, including complete awakening, where only the dreamer remains, and all the characters within the dream are absorbed and dissolved within his spirit. The miracles performed by the Divine incarnations are therefore completely understandable and easy to process once you understand that Universe is the software and not the hardware, dream and not the dreamer, and that God can, awake in his own dream, in form of a lucid dream, simply change any of the “laws” in the dream. The beings who perceive his dream as their reality, viewing it from the perspective of it being “the” reality, can neither comprehend nor repeat those miracles, and in that sense only God can perform miracles and change the parameters of the Universe. Any being that awakens within the dream and thus closes the ouroboros of creation by knowing itself as the dreamer, and attains the fullness of the emergence of Logos, the self-realization of Brahman, or whatever else you might call it, is essentially identical to the concept of Divine incarnation in the world, or a personal God as he is defined by the theism.” The God factory “What I can therefore confirm from my experience aren't the talking snakes, but the existence of spiritual beings who establish their influence over the portions of the physical plane, and who are occasionally motivated by their own idea of realizing some spiritual goal or another, and those goals can be essentially characterized as good. For instance, if we characterize manifestation of Brahman on the physical plane as good, it leaves an open question of the form of such a manifestation, of what it'sgoing to look like. Apparently, the opinions in the spiritual world are divided on that matter as well. As much as Brahman is a given, it leaves an open question of how exactly could Brahman manifest itself in certain aspects of the relative reality, for instance in the physical matter. Is manifested Brahman a state in which there is a complete breach, an intrusion of Brahman into the relative, a perfect self-realization of Brahman within consciousness of an individual being? Or is it manifested when several beings together manifest the qualities of Brahman, in other words when their social interactions bear the quality of satcit-ananda, reality-consciousness-bliss, in a way that the whole of their collective existence is a manifestation of Brahman? Or is it something else, ie. “enlightenment” of all beings, from first to last? What does a being that manifests Brahman look like, is it a strong, focused “ego” of an individual which is the living God, or is it a dispersed, disintegrated ego of a group of barely-individuals who manifest Brahman as a group? The answers to those questions are very important because they decide the direction of evolution, and a wrong answer that appears correct in the short term can lead the evolution of not only human species, but the entire biological basis or at least its large portion, in a wrong direction1, which is then very difficult to remedy due to the inertia of the physical, and something along the lines of a K-T event2 might be the only solution.” “So let's say that the spiritual field of some higher being applies pressure on the matter and creates the human species. That's the aspect the Platonists – or Theosophists – would find familiar. But the conscious matter, a self-aware human being, through its original thoughts, emotions and similar forms of spiritual existence, creates the spiritual forms that didn't exist before, thus giving an authentic, original contribution to the spiritual world. Furthermore, a great Yogi who becomes initiated beyond all the levels of Prakrti and attains realization, becomes in fact a new, original Purusha, a new eternal spiritual being, a new God. So it's not only true that the Gods create men and other beings, but the thing also works in the other direction: the matter creates new Gods, in quite a literal sense: a man is in fact a being which, by breaking through the limitations imposed by the matter, and providing he1 attains fulfillment of his highest potential, creates such a radical spiritual breakthrough that he becomes a new Divine being, which, for all intents and purposes, is a relative viewpoint of the Brahman, without any share of illusion. This concept is particularly pronounced in Hinduism and Buddhism – in Hinduism, some of the greatest Divine beings, the Rishis such as Vyasa and Narada, didn't always have this status, but had evolved from common men; Narada, for instance, was a servant's son from a lower caste. In Buddhism, the Buddhas are not “incarnations of a deity”, but beings of newly attained status, completely self-made. Far from the fatalist systems where enlightenment is some sort of a game for the beings that were Divine to begin with and went through the motions for the sake of an audience, the concept of evolution introduces a new category: the world as an instrument of initiating new Gods.” The plurality of the spiritual “What happens when your ideas about the goal of your spiritual evolution differ from the ideas of the spiritual being which, due to investment of his spiritual force, has authority over the aspect of the physical world in which you create your physical existence? Should one do what the good followers of monotheism would, which is to see what this being wants and declare it our own, the greatest good and the goal of all our aspirations, axiomatically, and join our spiritual energy with his efforts, as foreign as they might be to us, and as local, as opposed to universal, those efforts might be? What if the local “God” implements the concepts that are far from the main stream among other Gods? What if it's an experiment, a deviation, a branch of evolution that's headed the way of the dinosaurs? Should we join the other lemmings' cliffdiving just because the majority can't be wrong, or because “God can't be wrong?” “Those questions are highly relevant in this world, since this world has a King. The King has many names. He is a being of the Eternal Fire, the Bearer of Light. He is called the Morning Star, for he precedes the Sun and proclaims its light. He is the Lightbearer, the one who takes God's light and gives it to the world. He is the Eternal Youth. The King of this world is Sanat Kumara, known in the Bible as Satan, or Lucifer.” Freedom for the new “Instead of passively reproducing the biologically conditioned mechanisms without awareness, allow yourselves something new – a step into the unconditionality of the spiritual. We had enough of the passive reproduction of the same old ideas. Admit to yourself the possibility of the different, of the new – of your own self sufficient light, your own personal path, because the same Brahman that is the foundation of this world, is also the foundation of your own personal reality. All the enlightened ones, the wise and the Gods are already there, and are inviting you to become one of them, and have done so for centuries. You, as a person, yourself, are more important to them than any religion, society or mankind, because you as a person have a personal connection with God, and mankind, with all its self-important religions and pecking orders, is merely a speck of dust which will soon disappear in the ocean of time, together with the other, already abandoned sections of the great poem of creation.”

Hi there, I was just meditating again and my arms starting rising, third, or fourth, time now. This time I called my husband in the room and said "look" and stayed calm and relaxed. It stopped rising but held there about a minute or two and slowly lowered again. My husband doesn't do these meditation with me, he didn't know what to think of this... We had a talk about it, And we where saying if it wasn't for the ridged organized religions that are ran by our governments. Where could we be as human beings, it is a shame. We should all be talking to each other with our minds by now... I just have started my journey. I have along way to go. I have had one OBE, and now this. And some other things. I will not talk about at this time. But this is exciting we should all be excited for humanity... I know there are those of you out there who have advanced your selfs way beyond this. I would love to here some of your experiences, if anyone would like to share. I can say since I have started my work, I feel more together, and calm, and centered. I am an empath, and sensitive. So I took in a lot, and my thoughts would be scattered... This is just what I needed, I am so thankful to God for leading me to this website... So Thank you in advance to each and every friend, and person for your advice, and guidance, that has and will be given... Take care Melanie

First of all - the assumption that quantum nonlocality only is at close to absolute zero is wrong. Quantum biology has disproven that. So you just need to catch up on your science. I was promoting this professor JohnJoe McFadden, along with qigong, on the "top" science blog back in 2006 - so I got banned. haha. But that was before quantum biology had been "accepted' as mainstream science. Professor JohnJoe McFadden And so the secret of these vibrations is actually the logic of noncommutative phase. Science - Western science is from the wrong music theory! I go into this in great detail. We want to "save" science but randomness is actually the entropy created by science - not the other way around. -Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen, 1975 Entropy is a measure of disorder in a system. So you want to first assume science is some "objective rational" process of finding the truth - when in fact science has destroyed the biosphere - due to the exponential function as the wrong math based on the wrong music theory! So we get brainwashed by science - by the wrong mathematically logic - at a young age. Now it's too late. Civilization is wiping out ecology much faster than we realize. Feeling the future: A meta-analysis of 90 experiments on the ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4706048/ by D Bem - ‎2015 - ‎Cited by 84 - ‎Related articles Jan 29, 2016 - A meta-analysis of all forced-choice precognition experiments ... in cognitive and social psychology has increasingly pursued the study of ... And also after I saw qigong master Effie P. Chow in 1995 - then I had this dream that was more real than being awake. I was keeping a journal at the time so I wrote my dream down at 2:30 a.m. and I wrote: I think this dream is predicting the future. What was the dream? My environmental activists friends were standing on the roof of a house to protect a sacred forest and standing with them were Native indigenous activists - on the house - and they were holding a banner. Now that's a pretty specific dream to predict the future. And so I forgot all about it until 1998 when I saw a photograph from the local newspaper - it was the exact same image. I suddenly got this uncanny sensation and remembered my dream and I drove to my parent's house, where my journal was. Sure enough it was exactly the same - three years later. So read those links I provide - they explain how this is possible based on relativistic quantum science or nonwestern alchemy science if you actually practice it. haha.

In non-technical language another piece of the puzzle was given to me from a friend who had a dream for me - in her dream she was a messenger who had to deliver a letter to me - and in short her dream was about passing three tests. The first was a test of courage, I had to ‘use my strength’ to face what I most feared In the world, the second was a requirement to ‘climb the mountain’ which to me in retrospect was surmounting a multitude of emotional issues, and the third test was to ‘not respond’, in full I was informed that to pass this test I had to “Do not speak, do not move, do not look to the left or the right, do not respond”. This is a non-emotional test, and only to be done after the first two had been completed. ‘Do not respond’ sounds more ‘spiritual’, more in line with Buddhism or Daoism, but in this message to me it was the third test, there was a definite order in which to do things. This all boils down in my mind to 1. Face the fear in the gut, 2. Attend to the feelings in the heart, and 3. Get out of the way and allow the subtle body system to do its thing, don’t be distracted by Siddhi’s, and don’t engage in the dynamics of the two polarised side channels. It’s doing the third test at the beginning where I think things can go wrong.