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Yeah there's actually a Western model for sound turning into light -- and it's used for alchemy!! So that's been the focus of my research. Essentially the sound resonates into ultrasound and ultrasound ionizes matter -- especially water. The ionization creates a "cavitation bubble" which is a sound shock wave -- so that there is a zero-point quantum vacuum that causes the matter bubble to collapse. The heat from the quantum energy is so high it creates what's called "sonofusion" -- and it's like a laser energy, hotter than the sun. So then this fusion causes the creation of neutrons from protons and electrons or vice versa, thereby enabling alchemy. There are physicists demonstrating this sound as alchemy model of reality -- it's called "piezonuclear fusion." Essentially you want a "cavitation chamber" that remarkable looks like the full lotus position -- so there is a focusing of the energy. Just as the sound resonates into higher frequency so too does it resonate into subharmonics but this is best thought of as a "standing wave" which is the model used in the "Stalking the Wild Pendulum" book. So the heart-mind connection creates a standing wave, since the pumping of the heart is the strongest oscillation -- and this oscillation is at the ELF brain wave frequency of the theta waves. The theta waves activate the REM dream visionary state of the brain. The latest research that I just posted on my blog shows that the theta waves have gamma wave spikes -- so at the trough of the theta wave which normally was thought to not do anything, there's actually another resonance into the global brain synchronization. Then, of course, the pressure of the bones as piezoelectric transduction also works through the ELF waves -- but since it's piezoelectric then the ELF waves of the yoga postures on the bone pressure create electromagnetic fields that resonate into light. Western science normally models sound with amplitude for strength so that any frequency resonance would quickly decay in strength and also would not harmonize -- but that's with the Western "symmetric" model of time. Whereas the quantum model is noncommutative -- an asymmetric resonance of time -- and the energy comes from frequency not amplitude. This is also the model for nonwestern music -- so that the ratios as Number resonate as complementary opposites into higher frequency, via the "infinite spiral of fifths" -- and this is the same as the Law of Three (Gurdjieff) -- the three gunas of India or the yin-yang-emptiness.

Last night I had a dream about 2 long boa constrictors and a UFO with a modified US flag on it...

Very awesome! Last night I was thinking about Gurumayi as my wife slept next to me and she had a dream about her. Interesting.

If you do decide to go the traditional route, just make sure you don't end up like the guy in this story. Yeesh. O.o Of course, this guys problems went far beyond simply getting married. Even if you choose to serve others, it's important to set boundaries and maintain balance by holding fast to your own dreams as well. http://markymarksthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/07/story-of-mike.html MarkyMark, I'm writing this to tell you of an old friend of mine, a man I greatly respected and the tale of his life. What makes this man special is the that by all accounts his life, his married life, working life, and family life, was a "success" by the standards laid down by modern society. I'll call him Michael (not is real name) and he was a true blue worker, very intelligent, and raised to provide by two parents who stayed together and raised their son with strict Baptist values. He wasn't all that handsome but invested his younger years diligently, pursuing an engineering degree at Duke University back when grade inflation didn't exist (early 1960's). The girls he dated, well, he didn't date much as he was a nerd and being the 60's the girls with the new freedom used that freedom to ride the cock train of football players and players in general. The new age of sexual emancipation left Mike at the station. Years after college Mike met a girl who had gotten her fill of the bad boys, and they started dating. True she was no virgin while Mike was, she'd had several relationships and relations before but she recognized the value of Mike in that he had a new job with an up and coming career track - computers! Misinterpretation of his prior religious teaching ordered him to forgive this girl’s past and instead focus only on the future. It was his duty after all. He married her and worked, hard. His father worked for the railroad and the company had taken care of him so Mike knew that this was the way to a good life. Work hard, and the company would reward and take care of you. Then the 1970's hit with the Carter recession and all that loyalty and hard work amounted to nothing. Still he tried again, found another job (that forced him to move frequently) and this one wanted even more hours than the prior job. I remember him saying "It's Friday do you know what that means? It's only two more working days until Monday!" and off he'd go. Everyday. For 43 years. He had two children, a boy then a girl, and worked while his wife stayed at home. Later on after the children were out of high school Mikes wife dabbled a little here and there and worked part time occasionally for a convenience store. The extra money was nice but not enough so she pecked Mike continuously to make extra money. It was never enough. "Go tell your boss you need more! You should show him your value! A real man would provide for his children!" and on it went. Mike was getting older now, and had always had diabetes, a life long condition he had to treat with regular insulin injections. The shots were painful but he needed them to think straight. Of course there was the time he was laid off in 1980 with no insurance and the daughter needed braces. A real man knows when to put others first after all. And of course when the mother in law needed a new roof, and he really had promised his wife that new washing machine, and oh she needed to go see her mother for Christmas as well and airfare was so expensive. So the medicine(s) waited, more than once. His children were boomerang types, his daughter slutted it up with a guy and moved in with him but later on came back home until she was able to snag a younger version of Mike. His son dropped out of college a few times and then came home to be a bum for 2 years after deciding that work was too nerve wracking. Mike would never throw his children out so they stayed for several more years. Several more. Finally when his son hit 28 he found a slut with a child from another guy and got her pregnant. The girl wanted a lavish wedding but his son was only working at a book store and couldn't afford it - no big wedding so it seemed. Mike's wife knew better of course, and argued with him for months about paying for the big day. She'd gotten a lavish wedding (thank you Mike) and didn't Mike know how important a wedding is to his future daughter? Yes this was his vacation money, yes after so many years of hard work he was finally going to get to go do something he always wanted (to see the Northern lights in Alaska). Yes he was going to finally get that Harley Davidson and ride up there after 35 years of no vacations at all. BUT This was going to be his daughter according to his wife and his kids HAD to come first.... So the girl got her wedding. Then his real daughter needed help with a house. Her new husband turned out not to be a copy of Mike after all but a thug with a criminal record who had just lost his job. Why did his daughter lie about this guy to Mike? Her wedding was very expensive too. Oh well it was too late now and his daughter did need a place to live and she just found out she was pregnant! He didn't have the money but his wife researched it and 2nd mortgages were so easy to get back then. True, his house after so many years of work was almost paid off but his grandchild needed a real home and there was no way his new son in law could afford it and Mike was told he could now work up to 10 hours more overtime if he wanted. 60 hours wasn't too much of a sacrifice and he'd at least get a leg up on that promotion, maybe. Another decade passed and after scrimping and saving and even more hard work the mortgages were paid off. In a rare perfect storm both children (now well into there 30's with kids of their own) didn't need something. The mother in law didn't need a new appliance, or home repair, or another new car being long past her driving years. Yes, now, this was the time. Mike now 64, proudly strode into the Harley dealership and filled out a custom order sheet. In 8 weeks a shiny new Harley would arrive and he would get to ride it. He would finally take a vacation, his first real vacation since college. Sure his wife and kids had gone on many many vacations over the years but he always had stayed behind - to work. Something always came up. One time it was that there just wasn't money or neighbors to take care of - of all things - the dogs! 3 Lassa's that Mike never wanted yipping and shitting all over the place. Ugh... still at least his wife would get a vacation - she deserved it after all didn't she? There was even that one time (he hoped it was just the one time) where he found out his wife had hooked up with an old boyfriend when she said she was going to visit her mother. He forgave her of course a divorce would have devastated his kids (he knew they were his - or at least he hoped) and of course he'd have lost everything with the divorce laws - besides wasn't he a Christian? Shouldn't he just forgive and forget? What does his pride or even himself matter? He had never cheated on her or even been with another woman - not even once - but that was normal and he knew that she appreciated that didn't she? The last big push before new years came at work and Mike was tired. His wife as always spent Christmas and new years with her mother - and he knew this time she really was with her mother – she was too old to cheat on him now wasn't she? When she got back he would be free of dog sitting and he would take his new Harley on the road for the first time. Shiny and red, he hadn't even ridden it yet. He read the owner’s manual 100 times and knew everything about it, he couldn't wait and it was all he talked about at work! It was brand new and kept in the garage but he stripped the engine and cleaned and oiled everything just to make sure! It was polished, waxed, and hospital clean. All was ready. His first ride on his HIS!! brand new Harley to see the Northern lights. It was the culmination of his life's work and now it was really going to happen. Mike was so excited. On December 29th his daughter called and left an angry message on the tape machine. She wanted to visit but the snow was blocking the drive-way and she had her daughter and no snow shovel! Why the f**k hadn't Mike shoveled the driveway? He knew she was coming to visit that lazy good for nothing piece of crap. NOTE: the words she used were in reality more caustic than this - I have lightened them considerably. On January 3rd his son came to visit and found his father cold and lifeless surrounded by a ring of dog shit. He'd had a massive stroke, likely from the diabetes, and the paramedics said they thought that he didn't suffer for long - but it was hard to tell. When Mike's wife returned later on she immediately made plans to sell the house. She raged that Mike hadn't left her enough life insurance and no instructions on what to do – what a irresponsible man what the hell was he thinking? He should have provided better for her especially since he knew she was too old to work! She was 62!!! Insurance was so expensive for someone in his condition but if he hadn't squandered *their* money on that stupid bike he could have afforded it. Her old boyfriend George was so much more successful – oh how she regretted not marrying him! The bike was listed on Ebay that week. "Never ridden Harley - brand new! $17,000 or best offer". By every PC measure Mike's life was a success. He worked his whole life for someone else and doubtless made millions for his bosses over the course of his career. He took care of 3 people and two grandchildren that would have been on the dole if not for his efforts, and paid punitive taxes to take care of many more along the way. He never collected a dime of social security or unemployment even when he was laid off - he was just too proud to file. He never took Medicare and he made lots of profit for 2 large banks, 2 colleges, and never once thought of himself. He died cold and alone, surrounded by shit, never once having done anything for himself. His epitaph was a bike on Ebay - his life's dream - sold to a dealer for $15,500 - the best offer his widow could get several years ago. She took a cruise with the money. America thanks you Mike. You were a real success, and moreover a blueprint for what we expect a modern man to be. R.I.P. ---------------- That's a sad story, isn't it? I cannot add a thing, hence no commentary from me. Remember, Fealls, if you get married, THIS is what could happen to you! Tales like this make me glad that I'm unsuccessful with women. I'm serious! Ideally, marriage should be a little taste of Heaven on Earth. Unfortunately, it all too often ends up being Hell on Earth. Thanks to the reader who sent this sobering reminder and warning. Until next time...

I say to you my Lord of mystery! I was in a casket tightly closed, filled with the cold darkness. I was walking around in this contracted contraption, I conceived of as a life, Bumping into walls made of my own mind's projections, receiving painful injuries with each motion of thought, finding support and illogical feedback, from those who shared the same insidious dark dream. Cursing you my Lord with my free will, for putting me here with no light to guide me. My eyes wild with outwardly blaming fear, staring into the perceived nothingness that is a misunderstood life. My awareness externalized, to the point where not even a drop of insight would align with my mind. Finally, filled with anguish, I dropped to the floor and closed my eyes, half heartedly hoping with doubt plaguing my mind, I begged for help with a will broken and hurt. I opened my eyes, and as quietly expected, nothing did change. All I saw was more suffering to experience, more petty excuses to make in order to remain, in this foolish bewilderment of unloving pleasure to pain, with nothing unbreakable, just more dust and disdain. So with re-invigorated intensity, to realize something new, I then again shut my eyes with utter sincerity, and I pleaded with you, My Lord of mystery to help me out of this insanity we call misery! Deep within...my gaze wept for a spark of a something, a fullness for this emptiness that I called myself. Deep within, I traveled past memories of pain's and ephemeral dust-like joy's, which led only to more pain, my being sung a song of a heart wrenching for it's long lost love. Knowing it was seeking for the truth only long forgotten... that which without, life turns horrid and rotten! With pits as hearts spit out on the streets of society cold and stark. I cried, I cried, and I cried with no shame, and no desire to be noticed by a somebody...and In these tears, I let go of everything I thought of as important, I let go of any thought that thought itself was even important. In these tears, I drowned myself, I drowned all sense of me! After a time of unperceived passing, having lost all sense of worldly reference, my eyes opened from within...and from deep within, I could see the door to my enclosure, made of whimsical wishes and accidental desires was cracked open! There before my vision was light, LIGHT! Pouring through a seemingly boundless darkness, a small point of freedom glared clarity and shone brilliantly! It was tiny, yet it's warmth at it's sights touch, made me happy, to receive this taste of something beyond this clutch? What is known. My eyes were magnetically drawn to it, forcing my mind to move my body towards this seemingly impossible dream....of a blessing! I pushed on the door of my hearts perception, as the hinges rustily scraped open, to this light I humbly bowed, and wordlessly asked for encouragement, and to this light I released anxiety never spoken, from this illumination I receive nourishment, and teachings pour into my mind, like a rain storm of brilliant golden tokens, for this luminosity grants me, the knowledge that I need in order to live a life open, not to the petty arrogant, clenched fisted attitude's of the angry masses, but OPEN! To the experience of unconditional joy ever increasing, as my understanding is ever deepening. With this lit love held in the cup of my heart as reference, my journey to liberation from suffering continues... and the process of this lights unfoldment, from inner crevice to outer sky steadily brightens, as each day and each shade of color is made reflective of this, even the darkness which was made of cold contractedness, is now nothing but a black light, full of hidden illumination and harmless, and now if I let it, it offers no hurt or petty plight to shade insight... this that is bright and beautiful and not made by me as I realize that it could never be truly obliterated you see... It is the infinity! So hidden was this that was always within, so hidden under the rubble of my own insanity, I habitually considered normality, Now bright and unbidden are the waves of Love's elixir that pulsates throughout my body, and when my mind turns from habit to open spontaneity? in you... Oh Lord of all Mysteries... I FLY!!

I had a lucid dream experience of my Rinpoche running up my spine but within a tunnel riding a horse with wind blowing all hair on both Rinpoche and the horse back... moving very fast, and Rinpoche was slapping all my main chakra points with a stick, his eyes wild with bliss, love and radiance and at the end he was churning me, my awareness stuck at the crown of my head and this heat baking me on the top of my head like in an Native Bread oven, he was looking at me with this fierce bliss! I've heard that the windhorse is a synonym for kundalini? What's up?

Funny what people with very little deep meditative experience suggest of the great masters. "Dude... they must have been on drugs man... that's the only way they could have come up with that stuff bro." Ah, the limited minded masses of todays world. You must think Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche is on shrooms when he shares his stories of manifesting items from lucid dream states into physical reality. You are no Dzogchenpa! Back on ignore.

O.K. that memory doc gives the MRI studies on how Alzheimer's is from destruction of the white brain matter -- the glial cells. There's now new research stating that a byproduct of tryptophan turning into serotonin in the brain's nerve cells (gray matter) is the increase of kynurenic acid in the white matter, the glial cells. http://www.physorg.com/news199944356.html So if they can decrease kynurenic acid then there's a cure for Alzheimer's and possibly schizophrenia. Yet the documentary states the big problem with aging and brain cell death is lack of blood circulation into the brain. So qigong is focused on increasing brain circulation of blood -- to be sure -- everyday I feel and hear my brain cracking and popping as the blood opens up blockages. haha. And definitely "memories from the future" are a feature of deep meditation -- precognitive visions. Of course the chi and shen have to be built up quite a bit for this to happen. The key question in the documentary is how do memories actually form. It's known that when memories are recalled they become "malleable." So that's the secret of exorcism in qigong -- the emotional blockages are stored in the body as the subconscious memory -- and then as the memory is recalled by activating the body's energy, there is also an EXORCISM of that memory, back into the "emptiness." Science only has the concept of "emptiness" as quantum uncertainty -- which is the new fundamental foundation for physics. Quantum uncertainty is how position and energy are inversely proportional -- and so how does this relate to memory? The deeper our memories of position the stronger the energy used -- yet the energy is impersonal since it's created from the emptiness. Chunyi Lin says he does read our past lives but he rarely tells someone their past lives unless it's necessary for their healing. Also Chunyi Lin says that the energy keeps transforming and so reincarnation will keep continuing for ever. This is emptiness itself -- I personally don't believe in the concept of an individual soul being able to transcend the transformation of energy -- so that individual personality remains as an eternal entity, outside of the universe. To me, such a belief is the typical misuse of religion since the concept of emptiness is always the foundation for philosophy -- it's the ultimate lesson in humility and it's beyond power, etc. Still during the qigong practice the increased blood and hormones (jing) and then the creation of chi and shen in the brain does enable amazing recall of past memories. The documentary states that such recall is key to also imagining your future -- but "imagining" is not the same as left-brain planning based on facts. This is also pointed out in the documentary. Usually people plan their future as a left-brain intention -- in contrast consider Islam stating "Enshallah" all the time - if "god wills." For example there's a book on the meaning of dreams (Johnathan Winson) http://sami5001.buzznet.com/user/journal/18683/ stating that the Echidna -- a mammal in Australia - actually has a LARGER prefrontal cortex than humans -- but the problem is that it doesn't dream. So the dreaming state is actually the primary reality -- through logic of association -- rather then the logic of linear time planning. Review of the book: http://www.scaruffi.com/mind/winson.html So if we get visions from the future which does happen -- I had one that was very specific and I wrote it down stating I thought it predicted the future -- and THREE YEARS LATER it came true in great detail. I had forgotten I had wrote down my dream but then my subconscious activated this sense of uncanny reality and so I reread my journal. Again the details were very specific -- I had a dream of my activist friends standing on the roof of a house with Native American activists holding a banner to protect a forest. Obviously when I saw, in the newspaper, the exact photo of that dream -- three years later -- there's no way it could be a coincidence of so much detail. Especially when I had the dream I recorded that I thought it was predicting the future -- because the dream was "more real" than being awake. The point is if our future can be predicted in great detail -- 3 years before it happens -- what does that mean about free will? Do we even have a "self" of individual memories if our future is already predestined? Chunyi Lin says that 70% of our future is predestined based on the planets and stars, etc. while we can change 30% through qigong. In nondualism, as per Ramana Maharshi, it's stated that the evolution of the universe is an illusion -- that there is only reincarnation if the individual spirit believes in it, that, in fact, there is only the eternal, impersonal process of consciousness which then creates light and creates spacetime from out of pure awareness without any specific memories or thoughts, experiences, etc.

I had a dream about receiving shaktipat last night and I seemed to wake up and still having a feeling of receiving energy. Later I fell asleep again and gave shaktipat to someone else in my dream. Very interesting experience. Anyway, I will be there on next Global Shaktipat.

My experience is much more direct--I don't return to the the thought of I, so there no fluctation in perception, much less reflection. I don't know about transparent but yes, every perception is THERE. But it is not as effortless or continuous, as in it does not follow into dream states, and at times my thoughts, or more of a feeling (I noticed that even dual thoughts can be perceived directly, and it dissipates upon the moment of simple noticing), arise forming a memory of "me" and "you." I did noting for a while, and it was really helpful for dissolving a sense of "I" behind thoughts, and still devote time to it, but often found it could lead to fragmenting experiences too much, and takes away the directness. So I'm still at the mantra of "sound but no hearer" ...I was actually thinking when my perceptions began to shift, and to be honest, I don't know, because I know I really didin't want to do this. I really wanted my theory of simultaneous arising of consciousness and a creator and phenomena as its object to be right. And a few years back, while reading though Neo-Advaita stuff, I had a tremendous opening with the words "things are just happening without a doer!" Something in my heart just exploded that night and I remember sitting in full lotus for over an hour when before I couldn't do that for more than 2-3 minutes due to knee problems (so I guess there is something to that posture). But that experience fell away because I was still at the time very much into Maharshi and tried to fit everything together by his teachings. And I really clung to...free will and the story of individual spiritual struggle and enlightenment. I reanalyzed and discarded all this "no doer" crap because the face of the no doer crap was the arrogant Neo-Advaita people who seemed to take great pleasure in mocking other's spiritual practice (of course, this perception wasn't entirely accurate, and Neo-Advaita is still very entrenched in Consciousness teachings). As I stated above, it is only recently in the past few months, when I was almost forced to begin to see things "as they are" because of Kunlun (http://www.kunlunbliss.com/). (I think you know AugustLeo, he is an advanced practitioner in the art). But I don't think Kunlun has much to do with what we've discussed here, although it does challenge the body and mind's stability. It pushes at the ego to let go, and let go , and let go....but it became apparent that only a groundless mindset was the perfect surrender, and when I started doing this, my practice became incredibly fluid and natural! It brings amazing bliss and clarity to perception than before, but a fleeting clarity with the knowing that it is not graspable, so the "transparency" you mentioned is perhaps this, that upon noticing it, it is gone! The practice most of the time brings everything into view with a complete opening, like seeing a continuum of objects in completely vacuum space, completely vulnerable to whatever arises, and of course, there is nothing but whatever that arises. But it is not effortless, this state, at least not yet, even if I am naturally beginning to see that this is how reality truly is . Even though I talked all that about Kunlun, I have mixed feelings about it. I try to let the practice, and more importantly the urge to practice it come more naturally rather than from a self-driven point of view. So usually I have a time for general meditation and see what practice I want to engage in at that moment.

It's kind of like some conspiracy theories. They give reason for helplessness. Theism does this in a sense as well... "It's all God's will that I'm like this and these things happen to me." More reason for helplessness instead of self examination and transformation. Some people would rather concoct ideas that all my experiences and insights that I have shared here are coming from a fraudulent source and that I make things up rather than question what they can do from within to test the validity of the information I have honestly shared here. I don't know if you read it, but a couple of weeks ago Dwai said that I made up everything. I have not and did not, but this seems to me like a cop out. But, to each their own. I'll continue to debate if I'm inspired to do so. For me, it's more of a revelation of insecurity to go to such extreme ideas about someone you don't know and think that it's based upon "divine insight"... AAAAHHHHHHHH! "My Lord came to me and said, 'VH is a fraud'!" I will say for the record, that I'm just a regular human being who before I spent many years meditating, chanting and reading spiritual texts from all the major traditions, I acted like a fool and ran around on the streets. But, starting in 94' I had an awakening experience that reminded me of many spiritual experiences had as a youth as well. After this I followed very intensely and closely Vedic branches of practice and contemplation under the guidance of a living Hindu adept before meeting an experienced Buddhist scholar online named Malcolm Smith (Lappon Namdrol in the Sakya tradition [The Sakya's are the scholars]) who revealed that all my assumptions about Buddhism based upon Advaita Vedantin conditioning were not complete. We debated, much like we are with Dwai for about 3 years before I really just let go. My responses to Namdrol were much like Dwai's responses to us, with the exact same platform for conditioning, that the primal "I" is absolute and static and all dynamic things emanate from that transcendent experience on a cosmic level. I decided that I wanted to know the truth, not use my experiences, no matter how deep I may think them to be, as an escape from further investigation. So, I really started to contemplate the new teachings and perspectives that were coming at me and I at first started to have dream revelations as I would think about them as I was going to sleep. So, the truth of Buddhas revelations would reveal themselves to me in lucid dream states. This is all a process of course. Then I met a Buddhist Master in person and got blown out of the water. I saw the subtle differences between non-substantial non-duality and substance based non-dualism such as Advaita Vedanta and how incomplete the wisdom of substantial non-dualism is through direct experiences and visions of the 6 realms and intuitive comprehension of the meaning of the 31 realm model in link with the 8 form and formless jhanas. I saw how much subtler a view dependent origination is directly and how it leads to a completely un-obscured view! Because infinite and faceless consciousness is considered an obscuration if identified with as absolute. This really scared me and pulled me apart and I fought tooth and nail within to keep both traditions afloat as one. But, I came to the conclusion through intense experiences of spiritual pain with energy and spirit guides, etc. that both traditions were developing the energy body differently for different purposes as the goals are different on more levels than just philosophically and the two could not be reconciled. At least not yet. A fully developed being can go anywhere and not be influenced externally. But, "they say" when you are still developing that the spirit guides in the astral realm change when you change lineage and tradition and some people who have strong development in the previous tradition actually don't even survive the change. Anyway... I'm saying too much maybe. So, for Dwai to come to a revelation of what we are saying, might be asking for too much. As it certainly was hard for me, for many years. Re-arranging pathways in the brain and mind of spiritual interpretation is probably one of the hardest things to do as these pathways are deep and subtle, transcending the mundane. In Dwai's case his entire family lineage is trapped in Vedic conditioning for this lifetime. So he'd rather call me a fraud and allocate me to the not worth listening to box. I will say that I am still a screw up in many ways in my personal life. But, the experiences and insights that I have shared here do come straight from my heart and my life and no one elses. But to label someone a fraud because their interpretation of spiritual experiences is in disagreement with ones own tradition? Ok... We'll let that speak for itself.

When i smoke weed, i go into this laboratory, sort of like a class and i am the student. Every time i am high, i simply sit in the chair and look at the blackboard to see what Mr. Universe is chalking up for me. I learn and absorb a lot of information while in this state and when i am back down to earth i can meditate and everything i have learned and seen facilitates a deeper more profound meditation with a much broader understanding. I cannot however meditate WHILE i am high, but i can certainly do a lot of exploring and learning. And although i am a very changed person after each trip by the things i have learned, i can only apply the knowledge in a clear sober meditation. I hear a lot of people get high on stuff and then go to meditate, me, i simply can't concentrate, my mind gets gang-banged by the universe and i have way too much information to process to even consider meditation. My mind expands so much when i am high that i feel it will physically explode because it can't contain the information, but every time i come back i realize the previous expansion literally prepared me for absorbing even more information on the next trip. To the main question O_o .... why dismiss? If the argument is that information or states attained through stimulation from entheogenic substances is artificial, then that is the same as saying that all the teachings in the world are just as false. But aren't they? - What is real, until felt by our own senses? Just because we see it or hear it, does not mean we have personally attained it or understand it. All the theory and texts mean nothing if you can't reach the experience on YOUR own. As far as i am concerned the use of entheogens is something external and should not be put in the same category as attainments derived from clear minded and sober meditation, under which your body and mind remain in your full control. Having said that. I can see and feel the sun, but i am yet beyond it's glory, and although i may dream of being the sun, when i come back down to earth i will still have much work to do to. But if i do become the sun one day... i will not be surprised : ) Sort of like foreseeing a future event, when it happens, you're not as astounded as everyone else who didn't.

That would depend on which stage of enlightenment. From the perspective of Buddhism's emptiness realization (Thusness Stage 6), physical reality are not an illusion, but like an illusion. Everything we experience are not an illusion but like an illusion... why? Archaya Mahayogi Shridhar Rinpoche explains, http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2009/02/madhyamika-buddhism-vis-vis-hindu.html ...So in the Buddhist paradigm, it is not only not necessary to have an eternal ground for liberation, but in fact the belief in such a ground itself is part of the dynamics of ignorance. We move here to another to major difference within the two paradigms. In Hinduism liberation occurs when this illusory Samsara is completely relinquished and it vanishes; what remains is the eternal Brahma, which is the same as liberation. Since the thesis is that Samsara is merely an illusion, when it vanishes through knowledge, if there were no eternal Brahma remaining, it would be a disaster. So in the Hindu paradigm (or according to Buddhism all paradigms based on ignorance), an eternal unchanging, independent, really existing substratum (Skt. mahavastu) is a necessity for liberation, else one would fall into nihilism. But since the Buddhist paradigm is totally different, the question posed by Hindu scholars: “How can there be liberation if a Brahma does not remain after the illusory Samsara vanishes in Gyana?” is a non question with no relevance in the Buddhist paradigm and its Enlightenment or Nirvana. First of all, to the Buddha and Nagarjuna, Samsara is not an illusion but like an illusion. There is a quantum leap in the meaning of these two statements. Secondly, because it is only ‘like an illusion’ i.e. interdependently arisen like all illusions, it does not and cannot vanish, so Nirvana is not when Samsara vanishes like mist and the Brahma arises like the sun out of the mist but rather when seeing that the true nature of Samsara is itself Nirvana. So whereas Brahma and Samsara are two different entities, one real and the other unreal, one existing and the other non-existing, Samsara and Nirvana in Buddhism are one and not two. Nirvana is the nature of Samsara or in Nagarjuna’s words shunyata is the nature of Samsara. It is the realization of the nature of Samsara as empty which cuts at the very root of ignorance and results in knowledge not of another thing beyond Samsara but of the way Samsara itself actually exists (Skt. vastusthiti), knowledge of Tathata (as it-is-ness) the Yathabhuta (as it really is) of Samsara itself. It is this knowledge that liberates from wrong conceptual experience of Samsara to the unconditioned experience of Samsara itself. That is what is meant by the indivisibility of Samsara and Nirvana (Skt. Samsara nirvana abhinnata, Tib: Khor de yer me). The mind being Samsara in the context of DzogChen, Mahamudra and Anuttara Tantra. Samsara would be substituted by dualistic mind. The Hindu paradigm is world denying, affirming the Brahma. The Buddhist paradigm does not deny the world; it only rectifies our wrong vision (Skt. mithya drsti) of the world. It does not give a dream beyond or separate transcendence from Samsara. Because such a dream is part of the dynamics of ignorance, to present such a dream would be only to perpetuate ignorance... What does Buddhist Emptiness means? It clearly does not mean that everything is an illusion. Also, in Buddhism, emptiness is *not* nothingness. It is not some formless void that is the background/substratum of all things (that would be the I AM realization/experience, but it should not be confused with Shunyata). What is emptiness (shunyata)? Shunyata (Emptiness) means whatever appears are empty of independent or inherent existence, be it a sound, a form, or any other phenomena. This is because it is the 'interconnectedness' that give rise to the sound or experience (The person, the stick, the bell, hitting, air, ears, etc, i.e. the conditions). Whatever you see, hear, etc, do not exist 'in and of itself' but are 'interdependently originated'. Thus, whatever arises interdependently is vividly clear and luminous, but empty of any *independent* or *inherent* existence. This is not the same as nothing or nihilism - as Heart Sutra states: Form is Emptiness, Emptiness is Form. Nagarjuna: Whatever is dependently co-arisen, That is explained to be emptiness. That, being a dependent designation, Is itself the middle way. (Treatise, 24.18) Something that is not dependently arisen, Such a thing does not exist. Therefore a nonempty thing Does not exist. (Treatise, 24.19) __________________ A more detailed explanation on Emptiness can be found at http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2009/02/nondual-emptiness-teachings.html Then you may ask, what about the other levels of enlightenment before Stage 6, do they treat 'physical reality' as unreal? Their views/realization/experience are as such: "The world is illusory, Brahman alone is Real" - one realizes the True Self behind everything which is Thusness Stage 1 and 2, then "Brahman IS the World" - Stage 4 - experience is realized to be Non-Dual (not divided between subject and object/perceiver and perceived) and one sees the Real, the Noumenon in all Phenomena. Here's what someone from Stage 4 describes it: After the jungle, there is an intensely odd and very beau-tiful quality to the experience of life. In one sense I can only describe everything, all experience, as having a certain emptiness. This is the sense in which everything used to matter, to be vital and important, and is now seen as unreal, empty, not important, an illusion. Once it is seen that the beyond-brilliance of Sat Chit Ananda is all that is, the dream continues as a kind of shadow. Yet, at the same moment that all of what appears in the dream is experi-enced as empty, it is also seen as more deeply beautiful and perfect than ever imagined, precisely because it is not other than Sat Chit Ananda, than all that is. Everything that does not matter, that is empty illusion, is at the same time itself the beyond-brilliance, the perfect beauty. Somehow there is a balance; these two apparently opposite aspects do not cancel each other out but complement each other. This makes no 'sense,' yet it is how it is. There is one tradition within Advaita which says that maya, the manifestation of the physical universe, is over-laid or superimposed on Sat Chit Ananda. I'm no scholar of these things, and can only attempt to describe what is seen here; and the Understanding here is that there is no question of one thing superimposed on another. Maya, the manifestation, the physical universe, is precisely Sat Chit Ananda, is not other than it, does not exist on its own as something separate to be overlaid on top of something else. This is the whole point! There is no maya! The only reason it appears to have its own reality and is commonly taken to be real in itself is because of a misperceiving, a mistaken perception which sees the appearance and not What Is. This is the meaning of Huang Po's comment that "no distinction should be made between the Absolute and the sentient world." No distinction! There is only One. There is not ever in any sense two. All perception of distinction and separation, all perception of duality, and all perception of what is known as physical reality, is mind-created illu-sion. When a teacher points at the physical world and says, "All this is maya," what is being said is that what you are seeing is illusion; what all this is is All That Is, pure Being Consciousness Bliss Outpouring; it is your perception of it as a physical world that is maya, illusion. Stage 5 is 'The World is Actual' without reifying a permanent and independent Brahman. What is seen through is a permanent, independent Self apart from the momentary sensate reality... one sees the Actual AS the Process and not some substratum or container or background. Of this, Richard (AF) writes from his Stage 5 experience: [Richard]: ‘To be living as the senses is to live a clear and clean awareness – apperception – a pure consciousness experience of the world as-it-is. *Because there is no ‘I’ as a thinker (a little person inside one’s head) or a ‘me’ as a feeler (a little person in one’s heart)* ...’. [emphasis added]. Again the reason why I provide the full version is because to be living *as* the senses (as a flesh and blood body only) is a vast cry from a remaining, and non-detached observer, having *become* the sensations (as in having identified with and/or having arrogated them). Notice that the denial and rejection of the Manifest becomes increasingly less from Stage 4 onwards. Not that Stage 1 to 3 people rejects manifest, just that they cannot see what they realize in the manifest - to them the True Self is an Unmanifest Source or a Source prior to Manifestation, and everything as an illusory projection of that Source. He was awakened (to be precise he said he was awakened, not 'enlightened' which is a western invention) to the Truth of Anatta (no-self), Emptiness, the nature of reality and consciousness, and thousands of his students while he was alive was able to achieve liberation and enlightenment through his teaching... and even today many are achieving enlightenment through Buddha's teachings, which shows that Buddhism is a very effective system and teaching. Not only did he set forth a system, countless people since Buddha's days have been attaining enlightenment through following his system of practice. Bodhisattvas and Buddhas seek not only to end one's own suffering, but the suffering of all others as well. Arhants and Pratyekabuddhas do not. Therefore in Buddhism there are different goals and classes of enlightened beings. The Theravadin school of Buddhism emphasizes attaining Arhantship, while the Mahayana and Vajrayana school of Buddhism emphasizes attaining Buddhahood. Buddhism is not a form of repression. It leads to realization, which leads to complete letting go of clinging from the world, and the complete end of suffering. Repression means suffering still arise, but then you force them out of existence. This is not the case for a liberated person in Buddhism: suffering, craving, attachments no longer arise to begin with that they could ever be repressed. The cause of suffering is removed from its root, rather than repressing its manifestation. And yes, an Arhant has overcome all mental suffering while he is alive but not physical pain - as long as you have a body you will have some level of physical discomfort. However an Arhant is no longer reborn in Samsara, so he no longer has to undergo physical discomforts as well, after death. You are mistaking the non-duality that I am talking about. The non-duality of spiritual enlightenment is the realization into no subject-object division, no perceiver-perceived division, like Thusness Stage 4, or Steven Norquist's article, in the first page of this thread. If you read Stage 4 and Steven Norquist's article carefully, you will understand what non-duality means. Relatively speaking, there is male and female - this is not the area I am concerning myself with (I am not arguing against conventional truths). Here is an article written by a highly enlightened friend 'Simpo/Longchen' about 2 years ago: The misconceptions surrounding Transcendental Non duality This article is related to a common misconception with regards to the Transcendental experience of Nonduality. Within the spiritual circle, the term Non-duality is a very misunderstood or misinterpreted term. It must be understood that the term has more than one meaning and its perceived meaning largely depends on a person's stage of spiritual awareness. More often than not, a lower stage understanding of the term is misconstrued as the Transcendental experience of Nonduality or non-dualism. This confusion is largely compounded by so-called new age spiritual materials. The most common understanding of Non duality is related to the issue of Polarity such as light and dark. In this semantic, non-duality is explained as the non-biasness towards any side of a pole. This is about the concept of there being no absolute good or evil. In another word, it is about being non-judgemental. Many spiritual materials believed that this concept of non-duality is equivalent to enlightenment. This is not entirely correct. Non-duality as a concept for no polarity is not wrong. However, it should not be mistaken for non-duality as the state of enlightenment. The term non-duality that is being used to describe Enlightenment is actually describing a state whereby there is no subject-object division. This is an experience that is difference from the concept of no absolute polarity. No subject-object division is the true nature of existence. The method of realising this insight lies in the dissolving of the 'sense of self'. This often involves the continual and correct letting go of mental grasping. OK, that all I can think of and write about this topic. I will revise and improve this article where the need arises. For your necessary ponderance. Thank you for reading. These articles are parts of a series of spiritual realisation articles .

Enlightenment is being awake in the dream of life, is simply "Being" of the true One "Self" without any regard to the illusory ego; the ego self no longer 'is', as it never even truly 'was'.

Hi TianShi, Enlightenment as a word does not exist in Buddhism. The equivalent word the Buddha always used is 'Awakening', and I prefer this term because it is more accurate and meaningful experientially. There can be no liberation without awakening, without realizing the true nature of reality/mind/consciousness. Buddhism's awakening is all about waking up from our dream/delusions into the true nature of our consciousness... it is not an intellectual enlightenment, or any theoretical type of understanding. However I use 'enlightenment' more often because most forummers here come from a western background.

Very cool. I went to the list of post headlines and started just going down combining them in twos, the way two strands of DNA get braided -- everything connects and makes sense! Here's from a minute ago (as posts appear, the picture will change, but will still show intelligent design... check it out): Silencing the mind: Exotic supplement experience First food experience: Whistle blowing on breathing in the genitals Shaktipat: Sharing the same brain The Serpent - Satan? Time of the universe is slowing down 365 TAO: Taoism & large-scale dynamic systems Spontaneous qigong: Neurological switching the tao way Whole body was shaking when going to the dream: TaoBum love

I did some hemisync (brainwave sync) years ago. I helps your brain to enter a certain state of operation. One theory is that doing things that require or induce another state would probably go against each other. On the other hand, you can, for example, read a book in different states of awareness. In my school times, I learned for a test while listening to hemisync frequencies and I remembered some things almost word for word for a few days afterwards, unlike other times. I used 6 Hz for a while. You can use "Cool Edit" to create noise and add the frequencies, or add them to music. When I lie down, I can doze or just relax, not thinking about anything. When I do this listening to 6 Hz, the result is clearly different. I get quite lively imagery in my head. It is like the process of dreaming that clears your head and refreshes your mind, but the real dream state in sleep is supposed to be a lower frequency. 6 Hz is more for creativity and those things. (There should be info in the help file of Cool Edit.) So when lying down and listening to 6 Hz (brown noise), after some time the hemisync frequency part remained and the noise faded out a great degree, and the mentioned imagery started. In this state - if I don't go too deep - I usually can still react to outer influences, like when somebody talks to me, I can answer, but after the session I feel very refreshed. It actually seemed to have cleaned up my short-term memory.

Interesting news... as real as a dream

The full moon energy right now makes the meditation 10 times stronger -- 3 nights before and after the full moon is the strongest energy for meditation. The internal shaking is the conversion of the jing or kundalini to the chi and then the dream itself is the shen energy. The jing energy as spirit travel is the etheric body -- not the astral body. The I-awareness while dreaming is the lucid dream but for it to be astral you need to dream of being outside your body. So you dream about your own body as if it is someone else and then you realize that who you are is not someone inside your own body. This is when I wake up back into my own body -- because for the spirit to make that double awareness of not being the mind or the body is itself a type of gateway which will shock the spirit back into the body/mind. There's also something called "transcendent dreaming" which is beyond astral dreaming. It means that the pure consciousness itself merges your I-awareness of your spirit within another physical reality -- so that your own I-awareness experiences what the other physical awareness experiences. This is detailed by Dr. Christine Donnell -- http://www.amazon.com/Transcendent-Dreaming-Stepping-Human-Potential/dp/098018102X That means the dreams have spacetime transformations -- so they are precognitive but also when you wake up there is a physical transformation internally because of the merger during the dream. The spiritual dream is more alive -- the senses are more vivid -- than being awake normally.

I don't agree. I saw some spiritual concepts throughout the movie. One of the sub plots of this multi faceted movie had you wondering if life was just a dream and when you got killed in that dream, you simply woke up. It was their meditation type training that allowed them to control their realities. "I once dreamed I wad a butterfly. When I awoke, I did not know if I was a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming I was a man." - Chuang Tzu

Citizen Kane with Guns would be my estimation. Mr Christopher "that's a very loud and busy soundtrack" Nolan seems to be becoming quite the thinking persons blockbuster maker. As all the noise and the missed oppurtunities to make it truly mind-expanding fade (after two hours at the minute) I'm reminded of the big daddy of all these types of films. It's called Mirror (Zerkalo,1975) , a Russian film by Andrei Tarkovski dealing with just this theme but more fleshed out, more personal, more universal. A screening of it literaly seemed to rewire my brain one night (as it did for a friend who saw it once too) and make the entire world seem like a dream reality. The Nolan flick even has what seems like a reference to it.

I was going to sleep and i imagined i did not have a body or a mind , I stayed a "witness" through the whole time , My entire body began to shake ,I was fighting to stay awake , the more awake i stayed the more stronger the vibrations got .. I felt my body shift to the right but after it went back to the body , when it went back to the body i realized i was dreaming , after i got lost into my fears and anger inside the dream . I woke up again , i tried going back to sleep and i felt my entire body shake. Right now i feel my lower chakra vibrate" I was awake the entire time , even while going to sleep , I want to know why my entire body felt vibrations? ohhhh man i wish i can conquer my fears, one day i will lol!!!!!! I was reading Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche book on dream yoga , And it said nothing about strong vibrations . He just said to remain conscious while going to sleep . He says through strong practice i might attain "clear light dreams"

" Thing is Jesus and Buddha are just a concept to you an me. Really it means nothing." Jesus and Buddha : both of them are exist .... "I don't think you'll ever find the true science behind all this shit. LOL I saw a guy on TB called esoteric scientist, I saw good luck to him/her! All esoteric stuff is like that. At the end of the day thought can only take you so far. If you think critical thinking is God then just become a scientist and insulate yourself from reality." my master said: "if Ancient civilization and modern science combined, Eastern culture and Western culture combined, Inevitably lead to revolution in the life sciences" "According to Li he has unlimited "law bodies" that can see everything, and can change from the size of a pin point to the size of a building. They reside in some dimension we cannot see because our third eyes aren't open. Has anyone here got their third eye open? Have you seen one of Li's law bodies All esoteric stuff seems to promote that paranoid mindset. Thinking someone has something we don't (special energy, opened third eye). Like that guy in that other thread talking about that homeless guy he thinks is enlightened. Classic paranoia. Believing all that theosophical style shit = paranoid man." everyone has "law bodies" . everyone has 3rd eye, does anyone never have a dream? where those picture in dream come from. "Why the hell would you stick up for the communist party? I don't do it, but seriously I don't see how a group of qigong practitioners deserve the treatment they are being given." true "You asked for it. Li does say its not about healing or health and fitness but about higher cultivation AKA salvation. Personally I thought that was the true purpose of qigong so to create an immortal light body in the physical alchemical laboratory, not some cheesy health and fitness stuff." true, Qigong do give you a health body, fix health problem, if you would like keep going , it is about salvation.

What did the Tree Sprite get in return from Hatsumi's dogs? (We all know the story right?) See the Memorial book if in doubt Occasionally in a dream Peace, Robert

P.S. Hi Lloyd, many days later, I realize that I didn't respond to your account of seeing flashes of light and color in meditation. Lots of practitioners have reported all shorts of light shows while doing meditation with eyes closed and the FP Qigong in particular. I have one long-term student in los Angeles who sees lights and when her eyes are open, sees human energy fields in vivid colors. I myself don't see in colors, but in varying textures of transparent, colorless layers. Indian, Tibetan and Chinese (and other traditions) other yogic literature have some treatment of colorful lights and dramatic dream-like visions while in meditation. Here is link to one Indian analysis/categorization of "visions" with a little blurb about lights at the bottom of page. http://www.scribd.com/doc/2678894/Visions-in-Meditation (sorry, this is the only thing I found and it's not great.) I personally don't lend any weight or validity to this cookbook-type of analysis--it's the same rote and blind ascribing-assignation of "meaning" to dreams that crumby dream books do all the time. Every human psyche and consciousness is unique and utilizes various symbols according to language,culture and spiritual predilection (also diet, level of war, street crime, hours in front of a TV and drug-ingestion). And like rendering a holistic cure in Chinese medicine to a patient, where the healer develops the cure/remedy ON THE PERSON IN REAL TIME WHEN HE/SHE'S IN FRONT OF HIM, so the analysis or clarification of a vision is done with the person in front of you so you can see and read his entire karma, energy system, psychological processes, etc. Having done many-many years in guided meditation, dreamwork, hypnotherapy (using hypnotic regressions (as both subject and operator), and worked in holistic counseling a good deal, I believe in "analyzing" or giving meaning to a person's vision by letting their subconscious knowledge of the meaning rise to consciousness. Unless it's a spiritual visitation from an entity (and that does happen--such as the Buddhistic images that another contributor to this thread reported when he first started practicing FP), the "vision" comes from one's own mind. Therefore you know the meaning at a certain level. Or there may be no meaning at all to a vision or light show--abstract, bizarre, nonsensical visions and "venting dreams" happen all the time (on a daily basis); it's the mind doing "house-cleaning." Anyway, got carried away there a bit. but one thing for sure, FP qigong facilitates deep, deep states of mind-body relaxation, altered states of consciousness--normally Higher States of Consciousness (or HSC as coined by Daniel Goleman)-- and is a great stirrer-upper of your subconscious and unconscious Mind. Regards, Terry