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Quite the opposite happens to me. If I do my energy practices and meditations I will usually dream something. On the odd occasion I may even receive a teaching in my dreams. Have you asked your instructor about this? (S)he may have some answers... James

I don't think so. Your mind is a product of your ego. It's not the same as your brain. The aim of silencing your mind, one of the higher goals of Taoism, is to eliminate the mind. Once your mind is silenced, there is nothing to watch. Ultimately the mind is nothing but a self created dream and will be gone once you die, but Tao will go on regardless of whether anyone tries to watch it or not. If you think Tao is something playing in your mind that you can watch, I guess that is practicing. You can do Taoist practices, but you cannot practice the Tao; you can only try to live in harmony with it. Eric Yudelove

If you close your eyes, or keep them open since it doesn't matter, and remember a fond memory. It will be vivid, you can probably remember it vividly not just visually but possibly emotionally and tactically as well. You are visualizing except you are recalling a memory. When you dream, you're visualizing too. Visualizing is just using the 6th sense, the mind. If you close your eyes again but this time instead of remembering try to imagine something in very vivid detail. A scene perhaps of a beautiful beach with the sun setting on the horizon, or whatever scene you wish. Now add yourself except your body is perfectly translucent and radiating white-golden light. Your body is perfectly pure, all channels are open, all chakras are balanced. Keep this image steady and relax into that state. This sort of visualization has obvious pragmatic purposes if you analyze. One advantage over relaxation is that you won't fall asleep. An advantage over non-visual focus is that it's easier to specify what you're intending, and easier to notice when you're falling astray from your goals.

Yeah i think thats interesting too. I've read that after practicing qigong lots some people say they don't dream and have deep sleeps. Not me though. I've been at a similar stage to you with my dreaming and i've practiced qigong alot in the recent years but i still dream. To me i have 3 different kinds of sleep, not relating this to any scientific REM or anything cos i haven't read up about it. 1. light sleep/dreamy sleep Easiest time for this is when i wake up in the morning after a good sleep, then fall back asleep again in a light sleep. Here i can dream very easily. If i wake up again i can even just kind of hold that dream there for a little bit while going to the toilet or something, then lay back down and continue the dream off from where it left off. 2. deep sleep Takes a while to get into but feel totally relaxed and since i'm not normaly a relaxed person when i wake up from this i feel so nice, refreshed and good. Usually don't remember these dreams, unless i've been practicing or i wake up in the middle of the night halfway through a dream. After a giant 14hr walk up and down a mountain or something it's easy to fall into this one. 3. light sleep After i do qigong this is typical, yet not only after qigong. I sleep but am easily woken up, don't feel totally relaxed, like i have too much energy to go into a deep sleep. Don't dream. Has your sleep quality changed apart from the dreaming since you've been doing qigong? Just something u can try doing in your dreams too. Flipping coins and making them land on the side that you want. When i could do that i knew i was really cooking with gas. Should have stuck with it but as i had less time to remember my dreams after waking the ability slowly dwindled.

Haven't been here for a while but thought I'd add my two cents, so to speak. If it came to you in a dream then you should consider yourself lucky. My understanding is that such teachings are transmitted from other beings and manifest in the subconscious of a person with a corresponding 'frequency' thus allowing for the teaching to appear, if you will, in one's slumber. Whether you know this being in their physical form is irrelevant; such method of transmission allows for one to have teachers/students without the need for them to find you, or vice versa. The mudra probably felt different the following day because the energy of it developed. It's perhaps more likely that it was the peculiarity of the mudra being performed in public or the energy that it transduced/manipulated that caused the lady to look - as opposed to her look generating some hocuspocus (your average member of the public has little energy capabilities, in my experience at least). Now, to address the matter of secrecy, one should not fear doing one's practices in public, unless one is doing something far beyond the acceptance of the puritanical aftermath that still perpetuates throughout 'Christian' societies - sexual practices would be an obvious example. Spiritual practices are in their nature a very personal thing, that is something no-one can deny, and their existence is necessary for the development of energies/virtues/soul/spirit or whatever one's spiritual tradition elicits. It is this very reason, however, that means that one should never neglect their practices whether in public or not. Spiritual work is of utmost importance and the petty whines of the ego(s) should not be fed. Ideally it will be a 24 hours a day mission and joy. (Needless to say, how far you take your spiritual work is dependant entirely on your own motivations/aspirations... There's plenty of hobbyists out there.) Do not be mistaken that I cannot advocate telling everyone, arguably anyone, what you have been taught. Teachings are transmitted from teacher to student for the sole purpose of being used by the student to develop their being for the benefit of all living creatures. It is for you and no one else. If someone is worthy to receive it then you will know in your heart. Until that time, brother, keep up the practice and see where it takes you Love, light and happiness, James

So a little while ago I was taught a mudra in a dream. Now, I have started to use this mudra in my daily practices, but the other day was a long day, and I hadn't done my scheduled practice, and I was on the bus home, when I decided to do a little meditation, and I formed the mudra as I leaned my elbows on my knees, and the mudra was between my legs. It's not a real flashy mudra. However, I looked up a couple minutes later and someone across and off to the side from me (she was an older woman, around 50) was staring quite intently at my hands, I got a sinking feeling like I had just been "observed", I put my hands in my pockets and leaned back, and didn't use it for the rest of the day. The next day I used the mudra, and it had a very different feel to it- not at all as it had been feeling in the past couple of days. Now certain traditions and systems say that one must keep personal things, like personal mudras and things, secret, because when you use something like that it gathers power in a certain way, and if someone else were to find out about it they could tap into the power that you had spent so much work making. My question is.... am I just being paranoid? Was this lady tapping into my power (even if it was subconsciously), stealing it? Or am I just jumping at shadows? Is it still safe to use? The thing is that in the context of my dream, I was in a group of people all learning the mudra, so it does have some sort of a "group" component, but I'm not sure if it was meant to be limited to just that group... so I was hoping if I could get everyone's thoughts on the matter.

you identify with your body, and responded with fear.. that fear then created your experience of being dragged since in the dream state all is mind. you can try to contemplate the impermanence of the physical body.. how it will die and decay one day, maybe visualize this happening as you lie down, completely let go of all aspects of the body by relaxing and visualize body as pure white light. maybe that'll help. what do you mean by afterlife? there is no after-life, this is all life, where can you point the separation? there are different bodies of expression but there is no 'you', that's the ego talking. yes yes, surrender, and do meditate by resting in pure basic presence, or the awareness that is prior to all experience, thought, sensation. you should do this formally by sitting but also extend throughout the day in class, while walking, while talking, while breathing. be mindful of every sensation and don't get caught up in thoughts. always take a step back and observe the field of awareness. that might be too difficult if you are overly absorbed in thoughts.. so, if so, you should do shamata (concentration) and vipassana (insight) meditations. This is a great site to explore - http://kennethfolkdharma.wetpaint.com/page/1st+Gear keep going!

I just had a visit by the aboriginal dream walker from U lo roo. The convicts that were forced to inhabit ausralia call it ayers rock. Mao shan practice....Thunder magics from Max Christensen. We practiced whirl wind palm and taught about twenty Teenagers from the highschool Bagua. Sasha even put on a show at the local theatre, four dances did twenty three palm changes... Very mesmerizing those hips moving in circles for hours..... Reminds me of the time I got a body blessing from Kali. Whrilwind bagua I still think about that day the we got ahold of the wind in the class. A few summers later I ran into a dust devil and ran with it. I covered three miles in about two minutes. But the whirl wind techniques I have written down in a book of vows. Max doesn't care anymore...not since they built my monastery I pretty much do what I want. Yeah I have my own monastery

when your own veils get very permeable there is a mirroring between beings.Like attracts like. We kind light up each others problems by matching similar frequency or color or patterns. People do this all the time, but through the mind and so matching takes the form of dream or pictures without ever being aware of why those pictures came up. When the veils get thinner the energy that the thought forms/dreams/pictures was based on become visible in it's unfiltered form. often there's a mixing the real perception of energy and mind matter as representation of energy. In the end it doesn't matter how the truth is viewed, as images, color, light or sound. It all has the same source. when the veils get thin there is access to vast information and many ability in this life and from many other. Only you can say what it means for you

OKAY... WHOA..... guys. I just got REALLY sleepy after typing this. So I decided to take a nap. I put my head down for what must of been 20 mintues, and then the dream beagan. It was me, outside of my body, looking at my body laying in bed, and all of a sudden I felt INTENSE fear like, I thought I was going to die. I was being DRAGGED/PULLED towards my closet across the floor, almost like I was A TRAIN, this HUGE magnetic pull. My feet were tingling and on fire when I woke up. Dudes, it was like how in kunlun bliss it says " surrender to your divine flow " or when eckhart tolle was being "sucked into the void and a voice said 'resist nothing' or ever heard "go with the flow of the universe" anyoneeeeee experience anything like this?? Should I stop resisting this fear of death in these moments and "go with the flow" ? I'm afriad I'll die in my sleep. which might be a good thing as I am tremendously suffering right now. (I being my ego, aka pain body aka illusions) but what if I dont wake up and end up being pulled into the afterlife, leaving my body? scared, confused, mizu edit...so i looked up the direction I was being VIOLENTLY pulled in on google maps and it appears to point from santa barbara, CA to SOUTHEAST which ends up being the south of africa, cape town area... the odd thing is, that looks like where all the original land masses originated and 'fit' together like a puzzle... uhhh maybe I'm looking too much into this but if thats the case, thats the source of all life aka the begining formation of our very planet? who knows :| maybe I'm just mumbling

Hi Cat Thanks for the congrats I am totally ready (and excited) to be a Dad.... been a long time coming, and I finally feel ready, which was what we were waiting for, so the timing is right (when isn't it? ) Actually the timing was weird, as I practice tantric sex and don't have external ejaculations so...we still aren't quite sure how she got pregnant...hopefully it was me! (kidding) I joke about the conception being immaculate all the time, although I don't actually believe that The wife is feeling wonderful actually (thanks for the kind sentiments )...she hasn't had any morning sickness, and the only thing she complains about is the pain of her hips "spreading" (she's very very tiny). I give her lots of massages (Thai Yoga Massages) so that helps, and I make her take nice warm baths as often as I can, so she is usually pretty good I try to cook lots of good food for her too and her only complaint there is that the baby takes up too much room so it is uncomfortable if she over-eats.....(all the more for me hahaha ) Honestly, I am not too worried (about anything, baby or otherwise) and the baby has already caused so much growth here, that I'm sure she will be my teacher and not the other way around. I knew it was a girl on the 50th day after conception (through yet another dream) and not so long after the shaktipat dream I had another dream in which I was told what to name her (Amrita Grace "Zi" ) and I'm pretty sure we won the lottery with her....I'm very sure she will do/be great things in life. The concern about the "voltage" is not really a big deal, as I too feel that she will be at least as full of voltage as I am, if not more (after all, she is the one who transmitted a really strong kundalini awakening to me, not the other way around, hahaha), but I do have issues with blowing up electronics, and issues controlling the energy at times (especially when being totally open and acting as a "divine conduit") which has caused some issues in other people (and my pets) in the past...I think that any concern is likely just the mind though....everything happens for a reason. About sending "love bursts"...I do this as well! I will put my hand on my wife's belly, and send love through the palm of my hand to her, and this always gets her moving...although she is very active usually anyways. It is such a wonderful thing to be able to have physical contact with her even if it is through a "belly barrier".... It always sends shock waves of bliss right to the core of my soul feeling her move. I can only imagine how it will feel to hold her in my arms for the first time....probably bliss myself right out! hahaha. Babies ARE incredibly intelligent, I totally agree. My wife and I have already decided that we will NOT be talking to Amrita like she is unintelligent (baby talk BS)....we will speak to her like we would speak to anyone else....and yes, they are incredibly gorgeous... she already looks like her mom (see attached picture ) In regards to staying grounded....what I have recently found is that taking the approach of "giving it all away" or not trying to hold onto the energy as "mine" makes all the difference....I do still having an active grounding practice though...lots of walking (with the dogs, they especially need this ever since the increase in kundalini energy here), lots of physical activities in general. I also try to spend as much time as possible in nature, but time these days is very limited....we get possession of our new home on the 22nd of Feb (our first home) and there has been so much preparation for the move, the renos, and such, that any spare second I get it is usually spent doing practices. But that said, I teach AYP classes, I host a meditation group, and I make sure to give give give as much as possible, and this seems to keep me pretty grounded. The only real issues have been in regards to allowing the flow to get really strong with people who were not quite prepared for it. I am trying to keep that as minimal as possible now though and am choosing not to get too excited as this is when things seem to get out of control (for those around me, not so much for me). Anyways...thank you for the suggestions, thank you for the kind words, and may you rest in pure bliss consciousness always. Love.

Hi Blasto, Cat and All Haven't been around the bums for a while, but figured I would drop by today and see where things are at....other then the new format everything seems pretty much the exact same around here About energy and young children....have been wondering about this myself for a while now. My wife is a little over 5.5 months prego right now, and I have semi recently had an extreme increase in kundalinic energy lately as there has been a switch in motivation here....have switched from doing practices for my own benefit and have started doing everything in service of the Divine....being a servant is a powerful practice And since this recent opening I have noticed some changes in those around me....from my wife, to my friends and co-workers, to my pets....there seems to have been a "shift" in all those I have been in contact with recently....even accidentally gave shaktipat to someone during a deep spiritual conversation just yesterday....she is still trying to understand what happened/is happening (extreme energy and perception changes, heart opening, and "extra periphery vision"). Anyways, in November while at a yoga teacher training intensive, I had a dream in which I received shaktipat from my (soon to be) daughter (who I didn't know [for sure] was a girl at the time, this was before the sex determining ultrasound) who was (in the dream) the "star pupil" of a "kundalini facilitation class". This drastically changed the energetic flow in the body and I have been, not struggling, but perhaps a better term would be "coming to grips with" these changes ever since. I am still not quite sure how to "control" (if that is even possible) the outward flow of this energy (hence accidentally giving shaktipat to this friend I met last evening). I am already very sure that my daughter is going to be quite spiritually advanced when she arrives at the end of May/beginning of June, but I would also like to be very sure that I can do no harm to her by holding her close/being close to her while the energy flow is very high. If anyone has any suggestions here, they will be read with enthusiasm and acceptance. Thank you and may you all enjoy this moment as much as I am. Namaste. _/\_ Love.

All: thanks for your encouraging posts and advice! I'll continue my research on this topic: The irritation which I reported in my initial post from the gum through the palate is almost gone now, so I will probably soon continue with more of experiment 2. I will let you know how it goes (i.e. if I dream up a new experiment or once I have been to the dentist next time and convey her verdict). Yes, it's a great (and long ) thread - I did consider posting there too, but I felt that the discussion had gotten very much into what kind of formula to apply to the teeth rather than methods of using intent and qi which is what I am trying to investigate.

After pouring over a pile of literature on brow chakra "third eye" psychology, I would guess that one acquires the ability to synthesize the sum total of all sensory input, memory, knowledge base, formal education and life experience into a highly refined reservoir of awareness that is radically accessible via a highly developed intuition. Maybe I'm just projecting wishful thinking, but I imagine (and dream of) the ability to respond and adapt to any situation with absolute skillfulness, compassion, and spontaneity. I'm not too interested in the metaphysical musings and conjecture; let me know what I can do with my nervous system.

I was also high on THC (marijuana) and ORMUS so I was acutely self-aware/self conscious ie paranoia. lol. If there's one thing I am probably most afraid of when it comes to the paranormal it's alien abductions. Ghosts, monsters, etc, don't freak me out as much. It feels like I've heard these voices too, like in the movie. I've seen and experienced things whjich are similar but more in the dream state or the sleep paralysis state. Or whatever they were. It can be seen as the same type of hypnosis. That also might explain how I listen a lot to psychedelic trance music which is usually themed with ETs and mysteriousness of ancient ETs in the dark mystical/mythical traditions and futuristic alien space age technology, especially a lot of the dark psytrance/downtempo ambient-psy much I am freaked out by it because some of them have some of the weird sounds these same aliens make, and the ominous freaky hypnotic vibes and melodies associated. Ever since I was a child I was most freaked out by aliens, ever since I saw material about them on TV. It feels like those voices are embedded into my memory somewhere in de ja vu lang, like I said it feels like, archetypal even.

Well I can't say that I don't sometimes have this dysfunction ;-) Although it's been surprisingly clear this past few days. Hmm, I wonder;-) Where's the thread on the "mudpill"??? And what is a mudpill anyway? I'll go look it up I guess. I think I'd rather NOT have "night creatures" sucking my chi - and in fact I believe I've already encountered such things a couple of times. Whatever "it" was, it came along a tore a piece off my middle. I figured it could have it if it wanted it so badly and I really didn't think further into it. A bad dream is a bad dream. Besides, some "nasty looking" creatures in mythology actually help people heal (think of Kali and some of the soul-eating things for example.) What might be just as bad is when you give your own energy away without wanting to without random weirdness coming along. Or maybe when you give your own energy away because of some short term egotistical gain...a bad deal.

1) Be impeccable with your word, speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love. 2) Don't take anything personally. Nothing others do is because of you. What others do and say is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others you won't be the victim of needless suffering. 3) Don't make ASSUMPTIONS. Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstanding, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement you can completely transform your life. 4) Always do your BEST. Your best is going to change from moment to moment, it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance simply do your best, and you will avoid self judgment, self abuse and regret.

Into my cake dream comes a harsh reality: '80 grams of fat'!

and a friend sleeping astral-projects for a bite into my cake dream

snoring , nose twitches a dog dream acted and voiced and a friend sleeping

So about a week ago I started trying to follow the tien tao chi kung correspondance course. Before that I had been working on manipulating my dreams and almost reached the point where I could choose the subject. Also remembering usually 2 or more dreams every night. After I started the chi kung exercises however for some reason I either stopped remembering or stopped having my dreams (which is unlikely). While It's just a correlation I can't think of any other reasons that my dream memory would have changed. Has anyone else had experienced something similar when starting practices? With dreams or other things? Thanks in advance.

YES!!! Great stories! Why do you think I spent nearly 105,000 dollars to learn the medicine. And that's why Chiro's and MD's should NOT do acupuncture after a 200 hour certification. I have a FOUR year Master's degree and I am still learning. Pulse taking is an art and a science. I have: predicted baby's sex, felt the iron levels in blood, know when and how much a person has eaten, felt prostate issues, detected cancer in my patient's colon, know when a person has had an argument in the last 24 hours, can differentiate between an ex smoker and current smoker or child of a smoker, can tell you how you dream and what about, felt genetic heart valve issues, felt what type of relationship a person is in energetically and emotionally, detected an aortic aneurysm, can tell when you've last had sex, nailed a person on stimulant use, drug use and abuse, etc... And I am just a beginner. I have been around Master pulse takers who can tell you some even more unbelievable things!

Perhaps you need to consider classic pop songs? (even this one is a cover of an older song) Some girls will, some girls won't Some girls need a lot of lovin' and some girls don't Well, I know I've got the fever but I don't know why Some say they will and some girls lie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8RQbdOYl_s They are ALL different, get out there and put a face to your dream girl, you can do it.

In the last month I experienced a lot of dandruff, as if my liver unbalanced, even though I don't eat shit. I'm not an angry person, maybe even too much sometimes Anyway I experienced a lot of anger when I was living with my parents. One month ago I stayed for two weeks at my parents home and afterwards I experienced dandruff and quite the same dream about me getting angry with my family, and exchanging that anger between us (as we actually did in the past). I felt it like a setting-free of that stucked anger, that is good, but on the other side the same dream comes again. The same happened the months before with the kidneys, both physically and emotionally - I've actually realized it just today. And this path makes sense (what a chance...) with the generative path of the five elements: Water creates/nourishes Wood Wood nourishes Fire Fire creates Earth (ash) Earth creates (contains) Metal Metal collects (contains) Water So now I ask your opinion about my experience: do you think that this interpretation makes sense ? Any suggestion about specific practice ? At the moment I do 3 times a week kung fu, every morning some qigong with movement (mainly Spring forest 1&2 or Ba duan jin), every evening cross-legged meditation (MCO and emptyness). Cheers

From my trip to china to find Kun Lun one of the most powerful experiences was a dream of 2 large green women. There were two of them walking through a country. They were taller than me and were wearing the wings of enlightenment. As to why there were two of them I can't say, but the karma that they gave has been meaningful and manifests in a most joyous playful way. There might be a song that they sing about the sorrows and triumphs of the people of China. After all kunlun is a city in china...if you have the eyes to see it and a heart to feel it. So this song that these women sing might sound like A LA LALA a LA LA. Or maybe might start with SA.