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With some major exceptions, it seems that we all have our unique patterns when meridians begin to open; it just depends on where the blockages have settled into our physical selves. Rising energy seemed effortless compared with descending energy, and I was told that this accounts for why so many westerners can overheat themselves. Getting the cooling current descending is critical. I'm eager to hear about third eye openings. With Bruce Frantzis' dissolving "water" method, Ive been able to pulsate my brow at will. When this first happened, I was flooded with hallucinogenic imagery for several days, and my dream state, which is already spastic, became epic nightly ventures. I did notice a lessening of my libido for a while, and I ventured that this was because my baser energy was melding with higher energy, but I have no way of knowing this. It's awfully difficult for me to quantify all this personal conjecture until I am evaluated by a chi kung instructor. I'm certain at this point that internal alchemy helps your natural talents to manifest. I've always been a text-book left-handed right-brainer with my head in the clouds, so to speak, so I'm awfully excited about crown chakra psychology and what it portends.

Ground control to major Tom keep moving your eyes jing chi shen guts go and gusto if I only have brief moments to look here at ttb I get impressions I am thankful there is a group to even express any of the Taoist style teachigs that I have been wxposed to since crossing paths w many interesting characters in the story if life; what does gung Fu hvw to so with everything the basic conversions from jing to shen are practical and the basis of the first rules of chi cultivation adjusting what u eat how you breath and move. observance of basic cycles reveals yin and yang energies cold hot learning to practice passive and active meditations are par for the foundation work course breathing work will reveal basic signs sighnposts and teachers point the way if u are lucky u discover your natural talents, get in the habit of being inspired by nothing when subtle sensations arrise instead of grasping for what you've never felt anyhow let go more it doesn't matter you didn't dream it up after the pain stops the shake the nerve the mind the thought is it possible that yur pain is a thought? That is the esoteric part of this type of internal conflict resolution it is truly a conscious dissolution solution process. Compass center directions the work that changes shape over the course of a hundred days is sufficiant for openein the gate passes having resources to draw upon are important seeds nurtured planted tended Mint chic chip ice cream if I gotta write it down itihht might was well enough to dhare The fruit of labor being e perienced only upon the plane of theindividual yet e perienced in waves of the spectrum upon every physical z

Sorry she's corny! haha http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread538346/pg1 http://paratopia.podbean.com/2010/01/22/paratopia-episode-51-chris-leask-obes-dream-machines/

'til you drink your dream, fast for three days and three nights, pray, sing, chant, laugh, cry

climb half a mountain one foot on every sea 'til you drink your dream

agharta and drew, ticos are wonderful people and costa rica is beautiful. but i kind of got into a bad space for the last half of my time there and got sucked into a kind of party drinking lifestyle so i sort of missed out on the yoga scene or anything productive unfortunately. speaking of thinking you are at a different level, i was meditating a ton before i moved down there and feeling pretty imperturbable. then all of a sudden i'm on this remote beach with nothing much to do. high quality problem, right, and probably a meditator's dream. but i guess i just wasn't ready for that much "space" and i got sucked into some old humbling patterns. i've been back in the states a month and i already feel saner and back on track so i'm happy about being back. agharta, suninmyeyes, thanks for sharing your experiences with 80/10/10. for the first week of 80/10/10 i also slept a ton and generally felt like crap. but now i have so much energy i don't even know what to do with it all. i too have a history of anxiety and that is probably the number one way to get me to quit anything, if it increases my anxiety i'm out. but in this case, somehow, i had the clarity to just face the challenging emotional stuff that has come up. for example, one thing that was really hard was that for a few days i really felt like a part of me was dying. specifically the part of me that goes to food for emotional fulfillment. it wasn't so much that i was not enjoying the 80/10/10 food, on many levels i was, it's really easy for me to eat sweet fruit, but on another level eating became more about functionality. "i am giving my body nutrition now". that was a hard transition. anyway, had to process some weird stuff, but once i moved through it i've just been feeling better and better with random pockets of awesome and still few rough patches here and there. we'll see how it goes. i'm definitely playing this experiment by ear. sean

I woke up after cuddling with a crow on my shoulder in my dream. Too weird. So I'm thinking why was I getting down with a crow? Then I remembered watching Homer Simpson get down with a pig last night and then I remembered thinking highly of Edgar Allen Poe who has the Raven as his most famous poem. Then I remembered all the crows around my house -- two at the feeder this morning. Ah the love of it all.

Illusion and reality are opposing terms. If all is one opposing term, then the other term ceases to have meaning, and so do both concepts lose their meaning. At a certain level of practice, the world disappears. Then your body disappears. All is seen as a dream like manifestation of the mind.

lucid dream to here there we go, swig the bottle out on the front porch

Well I'm not sure what to make of OBEs (out of body experience), I think I've had some but I can't be sure. So well I'd like to know what you guys think about this and ask a few questions. 1) Do you think OBEs are real? 2) Have you had an OBE? (or think you've had one) Well I wanted to find out if they were real so I've been trying this stuff now and then for a few months now, my experiences are mixed. If you've read about OBEs you may have read about "vibrations" and sounds you may hear etc... So I've felt them, and thats been kinda one of my driving factors to keep searching and trying things which may seem kinda "out there" for many people. To describe it you could say it's like being shocked but doesnt hurt and well feels like you're vibrating inside, sometimes quite strongly. 3) Have you ever felt these vibrations whilst trying for an OBE or any other time? 4) What could thee vibrations be? My experiences that follow the vibes are puzzling, because I can't be sure if I was out of body or if it could be some kinda lucid dream, I'll tell the story and explain why. Experience 1 After a tedious amount of time trying to sleep without sleeping I got the vibes and then found myself standing ~2-3 meters away from my bed near my computer and window. The excitement of having achieved it was so much that the experience lasted a few seconds and then I woke up ( T_T ). So it felt real, BUT what doesnt add up is that #1 the time of day was different #2 My computer was On which shouldnt be the case since I switched it off before I went to "sleep". An extra point is that there was classical music playing in the background, no angels with harps just the music Experience 2 Ok fall asleep feel the vibes and just roll over and kinda drop to the floor, get up open the door and walk out to the corridor, I'm kinda wobbly and disorientated as I go, then wake up. =/ Ok but what gets to me here is that how can I open the door?? Experience 3 Ok I get the vibes, I think I'm still awake with my eyes closed so I start moving my arms waving them around just trying to see what can happen. After some random waving then I think "well nothing is happening" and with that thought I woke up, only to realise I had been sleeping. My covers were still nice and neat over me, so I couldn't possibly have waved my arms around as I thought I had in the real world. The experiences feel so real but I can't get far enough to say YES! I left my body and went for a little ride I guess thats all for now, just curious if you guys have anything to say about this stuff.

it looks like a cobweb.. Mind is born from resistance, a duality that happens when any desire rises there is a "yes, I can" and a "no, I cannot" The self learns to experience through the mind and becomes so associated with it that duality becomes invisible. We find our self always within either the 'yes' or the 'no' and resiting it's opposite. The resistance is what consciousness calls "the mind" Consciousness is the self caught in 'doing' which requires effort and increases focus which prevents self recognition -light is always going out and never coming in. We resist external influence more vigorously than our own "mind" and the transference that looks like a web covering everything and going in and out of all bodies is a completely impersonal and random energy matrix that has not its source in any self at all -a dream world. Disconnected from that web of resistances the self manifests -intends from personal desire what ever effect. If you sit still now and be aware of what you call intent and notice the first thought that comes to you, then intend it to dissipate. Now there are two kinds of thought present in this moment. One you intended "to dissipate" and one that arrived form a..where? You know, dolphins intend everything, literally they intend every single breath - there is a difference between intent and mind

cos it's such a yawn we'll just switch hemispheres then: lucid dream to here

You got that right about the US dating scene, really sucking for men. But I doubt it's any different anywhere else. All of today's society's are usually dysfunctional. There's no woman in my age group that actually wants to be committed to a relationship. Nobody cares about monogamy. UNless you have lots of money, and are older, or just very fortunate. And women care not for fairness. And all their guy sex friends who just pass her around. They dont care that I might be a rich person in the future, or that I'll be popular, whatever. In the meantime I am a SAD LONELY FUCK. They all just want sex buddies, or whatever you want to call it. No strings attatched , friends with benefits, etc. This isn't really something I can do. First off, making actual friends with a girl is extremely hard, that is if I want to go the "friends with benefits way" which something usually goes wrong because, someone usually develops feelings, or whatever. I also think any unserious relationship isn't really natural. Just because people can use condoms now, everyone wants to fuck around. it shouldn't be like that. So like I said, this isn't really something I can do for one, especially the sex buddy thing. I cannot separate sex with a committed relationship. That's how it should be naturally. And also, it requires that I be superficial, and/or borderline offensive and sexually explicit to an extreme degree. And I simply don't have the guts to do that to any woman without really knowing she wants it. And trust me, girls make themselves completely unnapproachable to me, because I have to be "perfect". There really isn't any woman that cares. I'm not "perfect" because, for one I dont have an extreme amount of money, or I'm not fortunate with a number of superficial characteristics which she may think makes up my personality. I'm also very different, in my society (The USA) my kind are considered outcasts. But me extremely so. it's ok to be an outcast when you're already much older and have experienced a sexual life, or have a partner, but at my age no. It doesn't get you anywhere in life, neither does it get you any friends. I also can't change myself to conform to society. I'm still in college, getting my college degree. When I get out, all the girls will have been fucked senseless the whole time. I don't care who you are, Every girl is getting fucked and fooling around, and by a guy much older than me, with more money, or just more fortunate at the time. Girls don't care about fairness. And so after college, I dont think I want to get with any of those hoes. So much for your "serial monogamy" crap. If they cared about monogamy they would be more serious, even when single, even during college. After college, who knows, you'll meet your dream "boy toy" and you'll want to be with him, but he won't want to because all throughout your life you've been giving it up, and to people you really don't care for, or who dont care for you,and without caring for the consequences. I am not getting stuck with a girl who's mind and body have gone through the havoc of this fake societal sexual structures that are made from this stupid industry.

When you take in the female jing then your penis swells -- it's a real climax with ejaculation -- only it goes up the spine -- not externally -- so the STRESS nervous system is not activated. So when the jing energy is taken in from the female it's actually testosterone! And your voice gets super deep because the testosterone is going up to the brain via the internal climax. That's the jing energy though. The more and more you convert to chi energy the less there is focus on sex. What happens is that after about 10 mutual climaxes (of male ejaculation equivalent) or 30 female mutual climaxes -- the heart chakra opens and it's REAL LOVE. After that when there is any energy interaction with that female the heart chakra automatically opens up -- so it's like head-over-heels in love type of feeling. This is the oxytocin bond -- super strong. In fact it's also tied in with the electromagnetic chi creation out of the heart energy. So it's like the chick magnet on acid -- like you want to physically be attached to the person and you can not help it -- through the electromagnetic energy. But this connection is also through the shen energy so like entanglement photons -- it's a permanent connection of instantaneous love energy. This is why the real yogi masters like Milarepa state they are "fed by the dakinis" because as your energy increases then you will actually have love dreams with the goddesses and this will give you internal climaxes but in your sleep -- and so you are getting the jing energy from the astral realm. Also you will have precognitive dreams about the O at a Ds with actual physical females -- and then the actual physical O at a D will happen with some female -- who you first met in your dream earlier. At this point you realize that being awake is also a type of dreaming as well.

(this from my friend maradann, whom I am introducing to the wonders of Tao Bum haiku ) raising the dead past in a dream we walk up steps his hand warm in mine

Thanks Magitek. I think you are spot-on as they say. The book I linked is also pretty decent, "take off your glasses and see." It makes the same point that vision is not due to eyeball, or at least, not alone. In the book, the author describes one interesting thing. He says he went to a machine to measure his eye lens' refractive ability and according to the machine, he still had myopia. This meant the lens did not focus the light correctly on the retina and machine was able to detect that. However, even so, this guy would read all the eye charts at 20/20. He even invited his friends to help randomize the charts/letters to make sure he hasn't subconsciously memorized the charts. He could see 20/20 even though his "physical" eye couldn't, according to the machine. This is the point where the author of the book realized that vision is not physical. Of course he didn't realize the the physical world doesn't exist as such, that's what we realize here on taobums. But it's not a bad realization for an optometrist. Oh yea, and the author of that book is an optometrist who himself had myopia, this is why he had access to the machine, charts and all that. I've also had a brief moment of perfect vision and I also cannot be convinced that elongated eyeball has anything to do with anything. In fact, I am not even convinced it is a real phenomenon. Unless I measure my own eyeball, I am not going to assume anything about its shape. But even if my eyeball was in the shape of a pretzel, I know I could still see perfectly if I wanted, because after all, vision and all other phenomena are ultimately not physical in nature. They are dream-like visions in the primordial mind.

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Hi Hardyg and All! Great question, even if the provocative sceptic! I wouldn't use "seeing everything" as a literal statement, and the "mustard seed" or "grain of sand" works: it is something like the infinitely flexible scalable patternedness and interpatternated resonant nature of all. I first experienced this 50 years ago in my early teens as an after effect or echo effect of intense dry hyper-orgasms as I've explained here and elsewhere in my blogs: http://www.thetaobums.com/blog/artform/ind...p?showentry=224 About a year and a half ago, during a glorious session with my wife in our mutual prostates energies practice, I experienced another form of union with all, and very great reluctance to try to translate it into words, Beyond Words... : http://www.thetaobums.com/blog/artform/ind...p?showentry=229 Just recently, in a long lucid dream, during the process of developing my personal amygdala clicking technique, I have had a third very different version which included dimensions of these first two approaches. I have struggled to put it into words too and am still seeing if that is possible or worth the effort. Here is thread from the Aneros Forum, with a detailed description by a terrified newbie, overcome by the unexpected and unwanted phenomenon. http://www.aneros.com/forum/knowledge-of-t...yond-t4838.html He has since had a second one with added Christian interpretation within it. It is interesting to compare with Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor's experience discussed in her book My Stroke of Insight, and her TED presentation, a link to which is available in the first post in this Aneros thread about her experience compared to others: http://www.aneros.com/forum/jill-bolte-tay...ight-t3897.html As science takes a serious interest at the Mystical Brain: http://www.nfb.ca/playlists/films-scientif...mystical_brain/ None of this reveals some easy answer or shopping list of everything. It is much more an enveloping aesthetic immersive poetic resonance with all. You will know it when you have experienced it. It remains with you always. Although back "here", you never leave it. You have never not been a manifestation/part of it. all the best energetics explorations and voyaging all artform

Anyway this morning I tried out those LUCIDITY techniques -- I didn't have the "cook timer" which you're supposed to sleep with in one hand. That's a little too weird. But I focused on staying aware while my body fell asleep -- feeling for the "lead curtain" to cover my body as sleep paralysis set in. Just like lucidity states -- at night this doesn't work because the hormones aren't right. But early morning it worked great -- you get both high melatonin and cortisol levels. I definitely had some great and really psychedelic lucid dreams. I visited Tony Wright and he was showing me these models of civilization from 1,000 A.D. (not quite 100,000 years ago but anyway). Then I was telling him about qigong and full-lotus and then I saw this really bright violet light which I shot at him as energy. Anyway I was later outside with an ex-girlfriend who was running around (as she was a professional athlete of sorts)... but then my dream was lucid so I could run even faster! There was this wild hog and so I chased it down and tamed it - just like in Avatar! And it rolled on its side and I was massaging its gums - - like cats like -- but the wild hog had huge fangs. Still we bonded emotionally together -- it was all warm fuzzies. I had a few other pretty weird stuff that made me realize I was dreaming. Still I tried having an OBE but my higher frequency energy was strong enough -- or maybe my lower frequency. The vibrations weren't strong enough. I'm not quite sure that the lucidity OBEs are the real thing -- but he seems pretty detailed about it -- and he says to make a magnetic ball which then pulls your spirit body out of your physical body. That makes sense as the chi is what powers the spirit or shen body.

Eat more nutritious food to increase your haemoglobin and blood quality. Don't day dream about lusty thoughts. Be active and not lazy (exercises will help). Thats all you need to get stronger erections that last longer than before!

Hi An, I will give you my opinion. Santi can give you his. I was involved for several years with teaching the old KAP version that Dr. Morris created with Santiago. There was also a version that Glenn taught before Santiago became Glenn's student and friend. Glenn was an empiricist who was continually revising and refining the process. I am saying that after the first KAP training, KAP1, Dr. Morris said if the student practiced specific practices...and he gave a practice CD to the student when I was teaching with him that had on it the Buddha Breath, the Secret Smile,(that is not the Inner Smile found in other traditions) and the Microcosmic Orbit...his versions...that your kundalini would awaken in 90 days after practicing two times a day for 20 minutes. Privately me he told me it would be much quicker but he had to make allowances for people who couldn't follow directions or were resistant. Santi's improved version of KAP, of which he just listed the contents, in my opinion makes the process go faster. How much faster...less than 90 days? He will have to tell you the specifics. I have only been working with Santi since June. The other two levels of KAP are great and help and advance one along the Kundalini process but are not needed to awaken Kundalini. They can make the process go quicker and help you become even more adept on the kundalini path. Kundalini, when authentically awakened and mature, never goes back to sleep. The door can never be shut on it in my experiences. If it did...I would say IMO it was never fully awake. Lucid dreaming and dream yoga. I know we talk about it but I don't think it is part of the curriculum.It just comes up for as part of the discussions student have with us. Santi will have to verify. I am still learning the curriculum. KAP will make you an Alpha rabbit among rabbits. Nice pic! Thank you for the questions. I hope I helped. Under promise and over deliver. It's good customer service. We try to give more than is asked for in KAP as instructors. Take once, give back twice as the saying goes in KAP.

Just because there is no 'you' doesn't mean you cannot be compassionate for yourself and others. From Virmalakirti Nirdesa Sutra 7. The Goddess Thereupon, Manjusri, the crown prince, addressed the Licchavi Vimalakirti: "Good sir, how should a bodhisattva regard all living beings?" Vimalakirti replied, "Manjusri, a bodhisattva should regard all livings beings as a wise man regards the reflection of the moon in water or as magicians regard men created by magic. He should regard them as being like a face in a mirror; like the water of a mirage; like the sound of an echo; like a mass of clouds in the sky; like the previous moment of a ball of foam; like the appearance and disappearance of a bubble of water; like the core of a plantain tree; like a flash of lightning; like the fifth great element; like the seventh sense-medium; like the appearance of matter in an immaterial realm; like a sprout from a rotten seed; like a tortoise-hair coat; like the fun of games for one who wishes to die; like the egoistic views of a stream-winner; like a third rebirth of a once-returner; like the descent of a nonreturner into a womb; like the existence of desire, hatred, and folly in a saint; like thoughts of avarice, immorality, wickedness, and hostility in a bodhisattva who has attained tolerance; like the instincts of passions in a Tathagata; like the perception of color in one blind from birth; like the inhalation and exhalation of an ascetic absorbed in the meditation of cessation; like the track of a bird in the sky; like the erection of a eunuch; like the pregnancy of a barren woman; like the unproduced passions of an emanated incarnation of the Tathagata; like dream-visions seen after waking; like the passions of one who is free of conceptualizations; like fire burning without fuel; like the reincarnation of one who has attained ultimate liberation. "Precisely thus, Manjusri, does a bodhisattva who realizes the ultimate selflessness consider all beings." Manjusri then asked further, "Noble sir, if a bodhisattva considers all living beings in such a way, how does he generate the great love toward them?" Vimalakirti replied, "Manjusri, when a bodhisattva considers all living beings in this way, he thinks: 'Just as I have realized the Dharma, so should I teach it to living beings.' Thereby, he generates the love that is truly a refuge for all living beings; the love that is peaceful because free of grasping; the love that is not feverish, because free of passions; the love that accords with reality because it is equanimous in all three times; the love that is without conflict because free of the violence of the passions; the love that is nondual because it is involved neither with the external nor with the internal; the love that is imperturbable because totally ultimate. "Thereby he generates the love that is firm, its high resolve unbreakable, like a diamond; the love that is pure, purified in its intrinsic nature; the love that is even, its aspirations being equal; the saint's love that has eliminated its enemy; the bodhisattva's love that continuously develops living beings; The Tathagata's love that understands reality; the Buddha's love that causes living beings to awaken from their sleep; the love that is spontaneous because it is fully enlightened spontaneously; the love that is enlightenment because it is unity of experience; the love that has no presumption because it has eliminated attachment and aversion; the love that is great compassion because it infuses the Mahayana with radiance; the love that is never exhausted because it acknowledges voidness and selflessness; the love that is giving because it bestows the gift of Dharma free of the tight fist of a bad teacher; the love that is morality because it improves immoral living beings; the love that is tolerance because it protects both self and others; the love that is effort because it takes responsibility for all living beings; the love that is contemplation because it refrains from indulgence in tastes; the love that is wisdom because it causes attainment at the proper time; the love that is liberative technique because it shows the way everywhere; the love that is without formality because it is pure in motivation; the love that is without deviation because it acts from decisive motivation; the love that is high resolve because it is without passions; the love that is without deceit because it is not artificial; the love that is happiness because it introduces living beings to the happiness of the Buddha. Such, Manjusri, is the great love of a bodhisattva." Manjusri: What is the great compassion of a bodhisattva? Vimalakirti: It is the giving of all accumulated roots of virtue to all living beings. Manjusri: What is the great joy of the bodhisattva? Vimalakirti: It is to be joyful and without regret in giving. Manjusri: What is the equanimity of the bodhisattva? Vimalakirti: It is what benefits both self and others. Manjusri: To what should one resort when terrified by fear of life? Vimalakirti: Manjusri, a bodhisattva who is terrified by fear of life should resort to the magnanimity of the Buddha. Manjusri: Where should he who wishes to resort to the magnanimity of the Buddha take his stand? Vimalakirti: He should stand in equanimity toward all living beings. Manjusri: Where should he who wishes to stand in equanimity toward all living beings take his stand? Vimalakirti: He should live for the liberation of all living beings. Manjusri: What should he who wishes to liberate all living beings do? Vimalakirti: He should liberate them from their passions. Manjusri: How should he who wishes to eliminate passions apply himself? Vimalakirti: He should apply himself appropriately. Manjusri: How should he apply himself, to "apply himself appropriately"? Vimalakirti: He should apply himself to productionlessness and to destructionlessness. Manjusri: What is not produced? And what is not destroyed? Vimalakirti: Evil is not produced and good is not destroyed. Manjusri: What is the root of good and evil? Vimalakirti: Materiality is the root of good and evil. Manjusri: What is the root of materiality? Vimalakirti: Desire is the root of materiality. Manjusri: What is the root of desire and attachment? Vimalakirti: Unreal construction is the root of desire. Manjusri: What is the root of unreal construction? Vimalakirti: The false concept is its root. Manjusri: What is the root of the false concept? Vimalakirti: Baselessness. Manjusri: What it the root of baselessness? Vimalakirti: Manjusri, when something is baseless, how can it have any root? Therefore, all things stand on the root which is baseless.

Hi All, This is a post by CowTao in a different thread to me and I thought that his words are worthy of consideration. Hello MH, You ought to get a smack on the head because you have made me feel like i am not welcomed here on TTB! (But i know you did not mean for it to be misunderstood in that sense, so all's well...) ....... ........ ........ Attempting an answer, i'd say mind is not on the dark side of the moon, and neither is mind on the bright side of it. Where is mind? When you hear a sound, there you will hear mind. When you see a pretty girl pass by, there you will see mind. When you taste something sweet, and call that honey, thats the taste of your mind. When you smell the fragrance of green-ness after a short rain shower, that is the smell of your mind. When you feel the heat of the summer sun on your face, that is how the mind is felt. The 5 senses function to complete the make-up of what we label as a human being. The mind is always the king. Why? Even if you take away one, two, three or even four of the senses, this we call a 'human being' can still function, although not as completely as one who has all the senses intact, of course, which is what most people have. But the mind, ah, the mind -- it can never be erased from the picture. Since that which we label as the objective world is nothing other than that which can be sensated, hence the allusion arises that all phenomena are but radiant displays of our own mind. Why radiant? Because even if we were to lose one or more of the senses, we still retain the power of imagination, and this, as you know, can be a source of all kinds of weird and wonderful possibilities. But where do all these possibilities reside? Its quite obvious i think. Rather similar to when we are dreaming, actually. Sorry for the interruption. I'll go back to my Haiku Chain now... Bye! I realize that there are many people who believe in a universal consciousness of some form or another. Some like to give it names like God, or Goddess, or Grandfather, etc. And then there are others, myself included, who do not hold to this concept. I have oftentimes said that I need to take good care of my body because my body is the only thing I have to carry my brain around in. I do agree with the concept of 'mind'. That is, our logical brain as well as other means of perception. So I guess a question at this point would be: Is our 'dream world' the same thing as our conscious interaction with reality or is there a difference? Peace & Love!

Have you read my new book yet? http://www.lulu.com/content/8177540 It's about how the Full-lotus is really just the most efficient practice of the yin-yang ratios -- as a tetrahedron is made up of 8 triangles each 2:3:4 ratios and 2:3 is yang while 3:4 is yin. So it's not just the full-lotus -- all of qigong and even the three gunas of Vedic philosophy are based on this natural resonance revolution. Still last night in my dream Chunyi Lin was trying to tell me about my past lives. haha. Ramana Maharshi has a good response about that old hang up.

There are no established causes and conditions. There is the relationship of A causing B, but the distinctions are made by the mind due to habit, or just spontaneous reasoning if you do not have attachments, as in you don't hold that relationship to be objective. We also have to put cause into the context of time. For example, the desire of ice cream is due to habits, and the cause for that desire can be that you are attached to the experience of taste, holding it to be true abiding pleasure. But upon fully realizing that that pleasure is totally subjective, that it is awareness clinging onto that state of being, taste, you are no longer chained to the impulse of that habit arising and leading you to get ice cream. You have control over it, and it no longer becomes a chaining habit. The cause is changed. I'm not sure that's a good example...it makes more sense when you see that reality is simply a manifestation of awareness intent as are the causes and conditions that govern it. A self existent thing, a self aware awareness simply doesnt make sense. Same with consciousness. You need to be conscious OF something to know you are conscious. You can abide in that state if "isness" or whatever, but you inevitably return to a time frame to reflect on that state. When you dream (not lucid or transcendent dreaming, but...normal dreaming), often the opposite happens. You are often unconscious within it. Events and memories happen, but it is only after you wake up these things become apparent. I thought the poem was very to the point. Thanks Dwai!