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I can barely type what I'm typing because most of my fingers are glued together with Crazy Glue on account of a tube thereof having exploded in my hands earlier tonight. This happened to me for the first time in my life, and will probably prevent me from practicing the Red Phoenix and the Golden Flower, with their relaxed hand mudras, for as long as it will take me to scrape the damn thing off. The reason I tried to open the tube to begin with is that I intended to glue my wristband ID from the Kunlun seminar, with its long wavy dragon (of the particular variety small enough and worm-like enough to hide in the folds of one's clothes), into my scrapbook. Some forces started working against my Kunlun initiation in advance. The morning after I made up my mind to go to the San Diego Kunlun seminar, I woke up to an extraordinarily painful rash, possibly shingles, all over my face. I did a round of home remedies and improved just to the point where I still couldn't recognize myself in the mirror but at least I could smile or sneeze without screaming anymore. The night before the seminar I decided I couldn't possibly go, but then Chris the writing knight in shining Kunlun armor, and the I Ching consulted on the issue, together succeeded in convincing me otherwise. So I bit the bullet and went. There were perhaps around fifty people in attendance. Max wore stylish Chinese clothes and a wide bracelet on his wrist. The bracelet, upon being removed on a later occasion, revealed a deep scar that looked as though someone had once tried to severe his hand with an ax and nearly succeeded. Which didn't seem to interfere with its strength and speed when Max delivered a cannonball-loud slapping Hot Palm treatment to one of the participants, pummeling away at his bare torso as though trying to demolish a prohibition on corporal punishments. The eight hours spread over two days -- Kunlun level I seminar, which is where I went (there was also a level II seminar for people who had practiced the first one for a minimum of six months) -- proved eventful. Now then. I have never worked for personnel and have never handled benefits, but one thing I know: I'm not someone who will give a controversial teacher the benefit of the doubt until he or she has somehow earned this benefit. I view an experiential tabula rasa with implicit suspicion. Any which claims anyone might write on it, I would want validated somehow. Tell me, show me, get me to feel it, get me to get it. Not in my mind though... Get me to get it with my life, with the very aliveness of me. I don't care about any other kinds of "proof." On the other hand, I'm not someone who makes up her mind in advance about anything (took a while to learn not to), particularly about certain things supposedly being once and for all, for all purposes and for all eternity, impossible. No. There's no such thing as impossible things; if you think there is, you haven't been paying attention to the universe. Miracles? I'm all for miracles, I don't think our world could emerge on any other, non-miraculous premise. It is not the outcome of a logical process; it is not a rational thing that anyone can account for by any rational arguments; it's inherently miraculous. Anyone who believes that "anything is possible" is a wrong statement holds a flaky belief with no basis in reality. Now miracle workers, especially professional, money-making miracle workers, are a different matter altogether. I trust the miraculous universe; it doesn't mean being gullible, it means being reasonable. I don't so readily trust miracle workers, neither great nor small. People are not, generally speaking, trustworthy. People who make money doing whatever they are doing are particularly non-trustworthy. It's the nature of the human beast. I don't trust the so-called "modern scientists" either. If someone withholds or takes away their research grant unless they lie, they lie. If someone guarantees no career advancement ever unless they lie, they lie. If someone orchestrates peer pressure unless they lie, they lie. If someone... and someone always does. What's "proof?.." Of anything?.. To me, it is as non-linear as the world I find myself in. Proof is a pattern, a tapestry, a piece of brocade, a dance, a symphony, a meaningful congruence between what you question and what life answers. If it's step by step, it's not a dance -- it's a marching army, and an army always marches toward death. Note by note, it's not a symphony -- it's the tinkering of an ignoramus who owns the instrument but has never learned how to play. Argument by argument, it's no proof! Proof is time-sensitive. A post-factum "I told you so" is not it, anymore than an a priori "I believe." Proof is space-sensitive, place-sensitive. In China, "fear of cold" is a disease a patient will complain of and the doctor will treat; the patient is not expected to prove she suffers from the "fear of cold," the doctor is not expected to suspect a lie, and the proof is in the pulse. Our PDR doesn't contain such a disease. Do Chinese patients and doctors alike lie then? To whom? To themselves? To each other? To us? To god?.. Proof is, then, space-time sensitive, but... Our reality is not comprised of space-time only. There's things beyond -- like intent, like co-creation, like dream-dimensions, like tao... Proof ends where reality begins. Only unreal things can be "proved" and measurements that "prove" can only be taken in frozen, stopped, dead environments, under "controlled" conditions, under formaldehyde. Life and its theoretical variety known as the afterlife don't yield to the "prove it" demand. Life has nothing to prove. (to be continued)

can we live a dream? or will we wake suddenly late for work again!

Haiku: 5 7 5 Let's try again: Or some sweet pink cake??? Ballet toes, Tutu clothes! can we live a dream?

fascinating. both videos. i totally believe the guy in the second video, though i think he may be wrong about the engine being alive. symbiotically responsive doesn't necessarily mean it's alive. that's a big jump. perhaps what struck me the most about the video that minkus posted was the part about stephen hawking telling him "we dream on the same wavelength. all my stuff comes to me in dreams. therefore, we are brothers."

A little more detail: Draw in through the eyes - liver/hun; Close off the ears and listen inward- Kidneys/zhi; Breathe in through the nose, inhale longer than exhale- Lungs/Po; Close the mouth gather and swallow the saliva - Spleen/ Yi; Touch the tip of the tongue (tip of the heart) to the soft palate, roof of mouth to close the opening to the Heart/shen. In the Lungs/Po, Po is the physical soul that comes from the earth, it is the physical movement of 'jing' in the body which is connected to the 'wei qi' that travels under the skin and controls the opening and closing of the pores. So there is also a closing off of the pores and drawing the 'jing' back to the dantian or mingmen area between the kidneys. Qigong or Daoyin is a little different than meditating where you are sending the jing and weiqi to the extremities. The heart/shen stores long term memory. The kidneys remember the short term memories. The Spleen/ yi is the intellect that stores the memories of your interests or studies. The lungs/po are the body's instincts or natural ability to survive- it controls the weiqi which protects the body without having to be thought about by the mind(shen). (In chinese martial arts a great deal of strategy is put into tricking an opponents 'po' and striking where their weiqi hasn't gotten to.) The liver/hun is the creative, dreaming mind. It comes from the heavens and doesn't come into the body until 3 days after birth. (While the 'po' is thought to arrive around the 3rd trimester and the 'shen' doesn't truly manifest until around the age of one's earliest memories as it is the 'po' instinctual soul that is keeping you alive and controlling all your actions.) The 'hun' is active when you dream, it can leave the body and is responsible for the out of body experiences. Alcohol disturbs the liver and brings the 'hun' out when you're awake which is responsible for the inebriated state of mind and why when you're sober the thoughts you had while drunk typically contradict your reality. The 'hun' needs to be kept in check by the mind (shen) but the closer you can make the reality of your life to live in accordance to the hun's desires the happier and healthier you will be. The Po and Hun can get a little more complicated- there are actually 3 huns that correlate to 3 passes in the body and there are 7 po's that correlate with the 7 chakras. The spleen is another problem or block in meditation that is easily affected by one's diet. The spleen is related to the mouth and saliva and using the digestive enzymes to break apart food. The pancreas and small intestine are connected to the spleen which is figuring out what the food is, then breaking it apart, then the small intestine decides what to absorb and excrete. The spleen/zhi also does the same with problems or situations. It is like your sub-conscious or gut feelings. When it isn't functioning properly you have worrisome or obsessive thoughts that go around in circles.

In Daoist meditation you want to cultivate the 5 shens/spirits and then unify them into the one central shen. The five shens reside in the 5 organs and each has an opening to the outside that needs to be closed and turned inward to meditate - hun/liver - eyes - draw back in through the eyes and don't look outside, zhi/kidney - ears- close off and don't listen etc. Then when you're closed off to the outside it is very easy for the dream-like and imaginitive 'hun' spirit to become active and distracting so you need to quiet and calm the 'hun' which possibly has been poorly translated as the 'ego mind'. You don't want to attempt to quiet the 'shen' consciousness mind (you), only the 'hun', so you have to understand the difference between the 2. The state of wuwei is achieved when the 5 shens have been cultivated and unified into the central shen/spirit that resides in the heart. All decisions are instantaneous and correct without doubt or inner debate. All physical actions are agile and done with minimal required energy and follow the most appropriate path in that instance. Thought without thought. Doing without doing. Typically we have an inner dialogue that slows down thought -heart communicating with spleen, or not acting quickly or lack of motivation - heart miscommunicating with kidney, or imagining into the future or the past -heart being taken over by the liver/hun.

Hello Findley, I am a medium I was born with this so I'm not sure how to develope it , but I believe that one or more of my chakras must be fully developed. To achieve this you have to meditate on them. When someone is thinking of me I 'hear' what they are thinking and also know who it is. That's telepathy. I also have vision's in the form of dream's ,while asleep, these can be either symbolic in which case I have to try and work out what it mean's or I see it exactly as it is going to happen, a future event that is. I also can contact spirit's / ghost's , and if I channel one my face will change to that of the person comming through. I can also heal animal's and people including myself by holding my hand over the injured area or by directly sending energy to that area,or send the energy to the person to heal them. I can also send energy out to hurt or kill someone.If I was to do that the person would have no physical sign of injury and for all intent's and purposes collapsed and died for no apparent reason. I would of course have to be pretty angry at someone to do that as it just creates bad karma for this life and the next. sabretooth.

if you're depressed and time is moving too slowly for you... (4th chakra is heart is time) my clan produces an herbal formula to energize both the heart and throat chakra... its marketed at leitzin. look it up. taking it when depressed will create a spiritual experience ... if you sleep within a few minutes of taking it, you'll have a pre programmed dream.

If by Rudyard Kipling IF you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools: If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breathe a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!' If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, ' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch, if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, If all men count with you, but none too much; If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! I watched Randy Pausch's last lecture on Youtube around the time of his death, in July of this year, just under a month ago. I didn't realise at the time that he had died, and just in fact found it out this evening by chance. It is a marvellous lecture and so poignant. Here was a man dying who had every reason to live, not least a young family. He puts things across so more eloquently than I can. His obituary in 'Time' magazine is here: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1826574,00.html A website with a link to the lecture is here: http://www.thelastlecture.com/

The echoes of silence, The chimes of immortality, Ringing through the seasons of my life. A child looking out to sea, A myriad forms dancing on the waves of eternity, How I wish I could see you, you dance so beautifully, But I'm too thoughtful, And there's dust in my eyes the size of stars. But who can I be but me or am I you, Like a blossom on the tree of diamond dream reality's.

Hearing the Cries of the World By Lin Ai Wei Living Beings are indeed hard to teach. Their difficulty lies in the mind of the teacher teaching, only when it comes to teaching. Their difficulty with their own life lies in their own mind. When saying "the world" it is only in reference to living beings, not the actual world. The world exists because of living beings, the minds of living beings that is. Therefore, the problems of the world are only of the minds of living beings. They are tightly attached to their views of self. Views of self create the myriad experiences they base their personality, character, behavior and habits on. When a teacher of the Buddha Dharma, or any Dharma which results in wisdom, teaches a living being, be it an insect, animal, fish, human, etc, the conditions of the one being taught are what is sought after. Sought after refers to the observing the causes and conditions within the mind, and utilizing them as an expedient to transform. Hearing the cries of the world thus refers to the observation of the minds of living beings. The world is because of living beings. No living beings, no world to experience. When there is happiness, there will be suffering. This is because the happiness sought after by unwise beings is based on the causes and conditions for happiness, which change. It is based on the relative. The happiness of Sages are not based on causes and conditions in relativity but based on the attainment of wisdom, the mind of purity. When suffering is seen, and believed to be a difficulty, the mind observing has the causes for that state to arise. Thus, the world seems unfair, living beings of the world seem ignorant, greedy, and angry, arrogant. Because these views arise in the minds of living beings, the result is just what they keep in mind. When living beings hold on to these views for a long time, they forget that good also exists, and or they perceive good to be short term, unreal, and thus imagination. What they do not realize is that what is known as imagination is just the mind; what they know as happiness, sadness, and all their experiences are too of the mind. There is no separation. Generation after generation, living beings hold on to their views so tightly that the world is just as their views are. Some people live with views of peace and goodness, but are seen as ignorant, unrealistic and not rational. Some people hold on to views of needing to struggle, connive, and cut corners through people in order to get what they want. These views are seen as the norm to an extent. Of course this is just a generalization, and they can be further discussed, but it will take up too much time to do so. In reality, actual, non-dual reality, both views are totally non-existent. They simply do not matter. The reason they do not matter, is because originally, there were none of these thoughts. These thoughts create the experience in the mind because that is their relative outcome. Thus, the world we experience is only a figment of our mind, a dream, a bubble, its not real at all..at least its not the reality living beings assume reality is. This manner leads people to question what the real reality is. And the only answer is Meditation. Living beings must meditate, clear the mind of their views in order to actually realize what true "reality" is. One can explain it, but still, living beings must come to realize it, or it will only be another false thought. Originally, we are all Buddhas. But because of our attachment to views of self, beings, other and a life span, we are not realized Buddhas, but defiled minds of the Buddha mind. The method to free oneself of attachments to views is simply to meditate and recitation. Recite the Buddha name in order to plant the seeds of your future attainment of Pure and Complete Enlightenment. Plant the seeds of your Buddhahood, of your attainment of wisdom. Meditation is the method, and so is recitation. None of it is mechanical and none of it is false. Reciting the Buddha's name is not false thinking, for our original mind is just the Buddha mind. Therefore, we are reciting our own original mind. Teachers, Sages hear the cries of the world, hear/see the causes and conditions of the minds of living beings and respond to them in accordance with these causes and conditions. This way, living beings can be taught how to cultivate, how to accept the teachings without doubt, and thus one day attain inherent wisdom which surpasses worldly wisdom.

Great posts Cloudwalking Owl, as well as exorcist! I'll give my point of view: Think about this: when a person is celibate, they still release semen in wet dreams. Everyone is different and it can happen at different times...one person might have a wet dream every few nights, another every couple of weeks. Maybe some people don't even have wet dreams at all, or at least it isn't noticeable. That is just the body having too much semen production so the cup kind of overflows. It's not good to have stagnation in anything. That's why it's good for the body to drink water and pee, to move and sweat, to eat and shit, to shower and clean the skin, to take in energy and release it, etc. Why stagnate in ejaculation? It's good to let it out at the amount your body needs. It becomes bad for you when you're letting it out more than your body needs. As a general rule of thumb, waiting a week seems to work well for someone younger like me. With meditation, qigong, tantra, etc...the jing, which helps create the semen, is turned into chi which nourishes shen. Without spiritual practices, the jing is kept for just making more semen. So really the key isn't to stop ejaculating at all, it's to hold back a bit and do spiritual practices. And celibacy is still great, but it's not that big of a deal. The loss in a wet dream is especially not that big of a deal, so long as you're doing worthwhile practices. Just my opinion...

Sitting in a chair with the heels raised and leaning forward is the key to activating this energetic experience. You are holding a posture that tunes your body to the divine harmonic. When you start to get close to that state, the legs may start bouncing and then that energy may move up to your lower dan tien, after that the heart. Don't allow it to rise to the brain though because at this point you will want to allow the cooling, downward flowing energy to cascade down through the head to the heart. This is where water and fire merge and create the steam of bliss. You will feel quite magnetic at this point, as if your magnetic body is much larger than your physical body. After practicing for a while and you are able to activate your Kunlun at will, you can sit on the ground or a bed, but just make sure that your hips are higher than your knees. Of course standing is possible, but not recommended unless Max is there. In your magnetic state you can go bouncing into things that might not feel too good. What you are actually doing with this practice is freeing the spirit from the mental confines of the body. The process reveals all of the tensions in the body. Tension is created by physical or mental stress. Once recognized, the energy generated can be directed to a tense area to help open it up and release the block. When tension is released the emotion held in a block can be released and this is where the screaming and crying and laughing occur and when an emotional block is cleared, that particular issue is resolved and you won't have to experience it anymore. Once all of the tension in the body is released (all channels open), the spirit can flow freely within the body and then begin to expand beyond the body. This is where it gets interesting, but I won't say much more on that. It is for the individual to discover themselves. The fur is an insulator. You can use it or not. I like it, personally. The most important thing is that you make sure you are grounded afterward and that you have stored all of the energy that you generated into the lower dan tien. If that takes 20 minutes or 5 minutes, it doesn't matter. Just make sure you don't leave any energy in the head or you will feel bonky. The hundred days is a suggestion for older guys generally or anyone who loses their essence frequently. It is mentioned so that if you feel you have a lack of energy, you can try it to help build your jing chi and open energetic gates in the body. If you have a wet dream, just start again building the energy. Don't worry about it too much. Hatha yoga is fine. Thanks. We try to keep it simple and to the point. Hope this helps. Good luck, Chris

Hi, I just received the book ordered through lulu. The first time I saw the web site I was very skeptical. Normally it is rare for someone to master one practices but in Max's case mastership of several arts and practices is claimed, Chinese QiGong/NeiGong, Tibetan practices, American Indian, Egyptian, Wow. The video showing Max to lead people into ecstacy or moving them raised a red flag as well. It reminded me of Frank Dux, albeit more sophisticated. Not to talk about the faked death and that people who have studied with him before apparently say that he looks very different now. Or how Kan dismaterialized spontaneously at a Starbucks in Japan or how the DNA is changed. But then I read Tao Bum's experiences and how they were also skeptical at first but then convinced of the practice and Max. Also somehow I get a good and honest vibe from Max and Chris. So, I decided to order the book. I know that it is not so easy for me to open up so I'm not sure that I will soon see any results, but I'll give a try. I have a few questions that some can perhaps answer: 1. The first level seems to be seated on a chair. Is it possible to do the practice somehow differently? I sit on a chair the whole day at work. Also I've been trying to meditate and would like to continue sitting on the floor, which is good for opening the hips, too, and typical in Asia anyway vs. the Western chair. Perhaps standing is possible. 2. What's the deal with the fur? Why can't you just place the chair on the ground (or if sitting/standing is possible sit/stand on the ground or floor)? 3. I'm pretty sure that I won't be able to do the practice every day for the 1 hour plus 20 minutes coming down. Is it ok to practice let's say four times a week? Is it ok to practice say 40 minutes with 10 minutes coming down? 4. About the 100 day retention- What if you have a wet dream? All in vain? 5. I'd like to continue my dynamic Hatha yoga practice, however been a bit scared by Max's warning in the book not to do other energetic practices as this might lead to energetic sickness. Is hatha yoga (not talking about Yogi Bhajan's kundalini yoga) practice compatible with Kunlun? By the way the book is quite nice. It's quite short and a small format. I like the design and the way it is written (at least the about thirty pages I've read so far.).

I highly recommend "The Woman in the Shaman's Body: Reclaiming the Feminine in Religion and Medicine," by Barbara Tedlock, Ph.D.. If you read it and still assert I've magnified the task, which in fact, quite on the contrary, I placed against a very fuzzy and very remote telescope instead of under the microscope... well, like I said, I don't have the power to change it. I did post a couple of personal examples, and was warming up to more-bigger-better... but then I was confronted by a very angry spirit in my dream, who basically yelled at me all night for trivializing the issue to satisfy idle curiosities, and was absolutely correct, so I deleted that entry and swore off any personal examples for the foreseeable future. As for the thread "devolving..." ...welcome to the internet!

Sounds like astral/dream plane experiences. I used to get stuff a bit like this when I was in my early twenties and I remember one day the household cat climbing up onto my chest and licking me between my eyebrows! I stopped getting these glimpses when I decided I didn't want to see them. I figure it's the pineal gland leaking a small amount of DMT. Deep controlled meditation emulates the deep sleep which we experience before REM sleep. I suspect returning from voidness, deep sleep, causes the pineal gland to release DMT which electrifies the mind (white field) and as the brain/mind slowly falls back into self-conciousness we cloth our metal patterns with imagery and then emotion. For those that have OBE's you will remember that strong emotions cause you to awaken in the physical. It's also interesting to note the correlation between birth and awakening from sleep. the release of DMT in the foetal brain of a human 49 days after conception which corresponds to the 49 days of the Bardo states (see: Tibetan Book of the Dead) and this together with the release of DMT released by the brain at death is very interesting. Note: 7 x 7 = 49 the rainbow body perhaps? Also we have Blavatsky saying that in future rounds we will live on the upper astrals i.e. Dream planes. Not sure if I buy Blavatsky's view but I can see where she's coming from. As mankind becomes more enlightened we would all move to the next round (beyond our current ring-pass-not) and a more fluid state of conciousness. Of course we can't reach such a state currently because of our lack of clarity but we do understand that all is energy. So I can see why some of you might believe in magic etc but that's in a different round and is only used on the level of mind in this round i.e. On the dream planes. When we move the seat of conciousness to the dream planes in another round we will all have the same power but until then it's better to stay grounded. As Lao Tze says, move with the present.

Voices and sounds when Im meditating and have reached that pre-dream edge, often I start hearing different voices, my concious mind fades. Its alot of jibberish for the most part, like some baker's voice saying "two bits for a pound" and that follows with some somehow related voice of something else "back the truck up." Eventually a visual image builds, and takes you into a dream, or, come back to a conscious state of meditation. Its a groovy place to be.

Both Buddhism and Taoism target at nourshing something totally new , alive and vigorous from emptiness/nothingness, ie, attaining the Real-Void . It is a status of dynamic , not something stagnant, a ripple-less mindlessness ; Nor is it a very peaceful feeling , passive unity of oneself with the external world/ universe..etc . More likely it is an abrupt openning of an unseen door before you , a sudden appearance of a bottomless hole beneath you ....an unexpected pop-up of another new , powerful Mind ( in Buddhist term: Enlightenment )or Person ( in Taoist term : the divine fetus ) from your body , not always peaceful , sometimes even scaring ; maybe something like a small ,trivial mammal, which originally live among trees , searching for small insects and fruits so as to have itself fed on, one day suddenly wakes up from its dream , and find that itself has become a human being , with a total new consciousness and power. Pseudo-Void ,although giving people good feeling , is unproductive in the end , therefore is the main trap in the Buddhist cultivation. On the other hand, attachment to sex pleasure/practice , or those wonderful feelings of qi arising from our body at the stage of transforming jing to qi , is the main trap in Taoist cultivation.

I just got JAJ's new book "Daoist Magical Transformation Skills: Dream Magic, Shapeshifting, Soul Travel, and Sex Magic".................heavy duty stuff. It's loaded with techniques and looks like a manual that will take a lifetime of study.............. A little pricey at 80 bucks and 242 pages, but filled with concepts and teachings never seen before.........To me, well worth the investment.

Cheers for the report Mal Funnily enough, I felt the urge to write up about mine, too, after the experience. My alarm went off at 06:05 today, and I was rudely awoken from having an entertaining dream with Airbourne playing live in a casino, sitting with some friends talking about my brief venture into psychosis. I felt embarassed of my journey, but realised it was necessary for my path. Anyway, slowly roused my mind to the waking world and got up for a quick pee. My state of awareness appeared to be different - it seemed more at peace than normal. I felt the energy of the meditation ahead. A rainy, some would argue a typically of Scottish, morning ... the sun had been up for an hour already at least. Did a few rounds of SuperBrain Yoga and sat for a few minutes of spinal breathing to prepare myself for the meditation. I sat down at 06:15 It was a very strong sensation at first - a large standing wave eminating from my spine. My hips weren't happy though as I normally do a series of asanas before sitting. Whenever I found my mind wandering, I would repeat what the website encouraged, "Relax, James, until you are no longer aware of your body." At one point my spine went very cold, and I felt a twinge in my right channel (a good sign in my eyes - I always run hot and my right channel is, I believe, my next obstacle). Time seemed to pass by quicker than usual. Alarm went off at 06:42, I gave thanks and grabbed my towel for my morning shower. In the shower I went into a trance, chanting, "Om ah hung vajra guru padma siddhi hum." This lasted for the entire duration of my shower (~15 minutes... I have long hair ). Great stuff. Loved the meditation and enjoyed the strange trance afterward. There's no way I am getting up this early every morning - I go to bed late enough as it is and work two jobs... need the sleep. Toodle pip all, off for breakfast in time for BBC Radio 4's Thought of the Day Look forward to reading other reports from fellow Tao Bums this evening!! Many thanks to Mikaelz for bringing this to my attention. You're a gem. James

Time and space are not really obstacles. As most here acknowledged, space is not a factor for the transmission. Neither is time. You can experience this type of thing at any time, sometimes, like with "moms", our subtle body is already there before the actual "time". This happens with me a lot. I am not so good at tuning in to future or past events, although sometimes but not as intensely as if it was "the" time. Space is easier to get over in my experience, sounds like others here say the same. Another option would be to send your dream self at 6:30 AM and then when you wake up you will probably still be buzzing Best, Matt

I decline your challenge, I love to sleep in as late as I can although it was a fun meditation and I feel quite cheerfull today. {start long and possibly boring post} Got to bed at 12:30 (curse you Tao Bums and your interesting posts. Finished watching Star Wars III {again} just after 11 and though I'll just spend a few seconds on the net) Anyhow woke up 5:30, excited about the meditation. Went to the loo and snoozed till the alarm went off at 6, waited till ~ the 3rd chime 6:08 and did my Chi Gungs. Was nice and relaxed, finished at 6:17:56. I had wanted a minute to get ready for the meditation and had set my timer for 22 min but I did not have time to change it so I just sat, closed my eyes and thought "feel a wave of energy up my spine" which I did. I put my hands on my belly, smiled and followed my breath into my belly. But I wanted my breathing to be free so I felt it coming in and out my nose instead. Then remembered needing to let got of all sensation in my body so I went with "let go" as a mantra for a bit then let that go and over time noticed that my vision through my closed eyes was slowly changing from dark blue to a lighter gold colour (BTW the sun was coming up) Felt nice, then the gold vision faded to a silver gray and the timer went off at 6:40. Note: none of this was as spectacular as it sounds, very subtle effects, and the time seemed to pass quickly, basically a good meditation. So I set my alarm for 7 and went back to my sleeping partner, feeling very loved and happy and cuddled her. And I had a Dream (unusual in 20 min) I was in a dorm room in Tully. No idea why it was Tully, that is where my partner grew up. I have not been there much, and it didn't really look like Tully but I knew that was where I was. The dorm was long room, like 2 motel rooms joined together and seemed to have about 6 beds. My bed was near the door with about 3 others, no people in them (the whole thing felt a bit like the band camps I went to as a teenager but it didn't look like any of the places I have actually been) the room had like a bathroom in the middle that sort of divided it with the other beds at the far end of the room. (They looked like the sleeping accommodation in the last dive boat I was on) My highschool friend, Jeffery, who I have not seen since Uni and don't often dream about, was in one of the beds at the end of the room and some other people were sleeping in the other beds. I was looking for something on my bed. I knew it was there, but I couldn't see it or really get a clear idea of what I was looking for. It wasn't that dark, but I didn't want to turn on the lights as I was not sure which switch would light up my end of the room and I didn't want to wake up the others who were sleeping. Then I was outside in a large empty field, like Charters Towers where I grew up, very dry, unlike the surroundings which were more rainforest / scrub like Tully. There was a bus stop in the middle of the field, which seemed normal. It had a large white wall in the middle with seats and a bit of shelter. (looked a bit like that strange architecture in a current ABC TV advert here in Aus) Jeff was there as was John, a good friend that played trumpet in our 7 piece jazz band in high school who usually turns up in my band camp dreams. There were very dark, blue / black rain clouds, very stormy looking weather but still air. Suddenly about 200m away there was a twister. I shouted "Twister" and immediately felt confused as we have cyclones here but not twisters. Jeffery said "Don't you mean Whirly Wind" till he came around the bus stop and saw the size of the funnel. He and John ran off to some large trees (which were in the field now) but I stayed at the bus stop on the other side of the wall to the twister as it started to get really windy. When the twister was about 50 m away and passing on the left. I decided the bus stop was not safe anymore and ran to one of the trees. Of course the wind was so strong that I couldn't move forward. There was a girl making for a tree on my left, so I tried to get to one on the right but couldn't move. (Unlike the normal "can't run" dream this wasn't scary) Then the twister was gone, as was the girl. I walked over to a uprooted tree on my right that Jeff was sitting on top of to see if he was o.k. Cue alarm clock.....

Yes, the wonderful Russian conditioning to scare people away from something expanding your consciousness. Just like you, I was conditioned to be afraid of a white-doted red caps with stories of people eating it by accident and dying within hours. When I turned 18, I got this little magazine I was subscribing to, and there I learned a lot about Siberian shamans and how they used the mushrooms in their Vision quests. So my friend and I went out to a forest and got a few dozens and dried them. I ate one- nothing. Later, two- nothing special. So I decided to go on my own vision quest and took a train to my grandmother's house. 10 minutes before the train stopped at the train station I was supposed to get off, I swallowed 5 mushrooms. Got off the train- all dark at about 8pm in October. No lights, just the dark sky and a little bit of opening in the wood tops to see there supposed to be the road. I found the road alright- it takes about 45 minutes to walk from the station to the house. About halfway I realized something is going on in my head because everything I looked at was coming with comments on it. I didn't notice it first but later realized it wasn't my internal dialogue. I was more concerned with going through the forest without meeting some of the critters. Got to the house. Feel really heavy and went straight to bed. Visions of things. I looked at the wall and saw the house I was in , then went deep into the wood to the atomic and subatomic level. It's a little disturbing to be one of the molecule dancing around. It's even more disturbing if it continues for more then an hour. Got nauseous. Went to through up but nothing came out. The voices told me if I want to through up, I need to drink water. They also told me it's too late to reverse the process because it got absorbed in to the bloodstream. Got a bucket and went to the well outside. The voices were commenting on stuff but I don't remember what it was. I say "voices" but it was more like a chorus of young girls saying the same thing at the same time. Drunk some water and went back to bed. More visions. Got nauseous again. While vomiting the voice(s) told me how much more I had to go through and even showed me a diagram. That was kind of funny. Went to the out-house. For those who don't know, it's something like this: On the way there, I noticed the trees and everything else living was covered in some luminescent paint. It's not paint, the voice(s) said, it's their energy. Had to move some bushes out of my way and the minute I touched them, the plant started talking to me. Something about it's nice I'm here. A single woman's voice. Got to the outhouse. Again, the diagram popped out about how much of the fecal matter is in my colon with the voice explaining it. I'm not kidding you. Vomited again. Felt so tired. The rest of the night spent in some weird dream world. Woke up at 9am. Couldn't eat anything, couldn't think anything for the rest of the day. Went back to the train, got home and threw the rest of the mushrooms away. A few days later, I told my spiritual teacher about my experiences and he laughed so hard about it. I told him that he is from Vladivostok (Sibiria) so he should have known where i'm coming from. He said if he wasn't friends with my mother, he would say I was coming from a horse's ass and then he laughed and made me do standing meditation for an hour. That was the only experience I had with mushrooms. Psylocibine cubensis would be a better choice for this type of experience, but again, you normally are not ready for it if you have to induce it by using foreign substances.

But Taomeow, when the tao-made plants start being used in weekends for entertainment by youth who only want to get away from themselves, I would say they are being used as a drug. And is therefore no different than industry-made drugs. It dosent matter how tao-made they are when people use them to satisfy their own (subconscious) self-destructive needs. I wouldt say anything if it is being used IN context, by a real shaman, maby only once or twice in a lifetime and only for very special occations. But how often does THAT happen in this culture we are in. Most of us are weekend abusers who only dream of other realities and shortcuts, not willing to do the real work.