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Hey there! So I linked to this site from a brainsturbator.com forum post a buddy of mine sent me. I'm pretty excited to meet some new and interesting people with a sort of common interest. Anyway, a little about me. I'm nestled up in the North Coast of California where the trees are big and the oceans wild. For a long time I denied myself spirituality and told myself that if I got a job and house and a car and all the other things of the American Dream I'd be okay. I find myself disagreeing now and realize I have some urge to see the truth of the world and myself. I've tried a lot of approaches to the world, including Zen meditation and Buddhist philosophy, Hindu philosophies, the psychedelic approach, thelemick and chaos magick, and lately have been reading the writings of Krishnamurti. Basically, I've found a lot of interesting things in every approach and have been trying to reconcile the differences of each into a foundational whole. Well, that's a bit about me. Peace everyone

What do you think are the similarities in dream yoga?

Ken Wilber dosent have a brain, he prooved it himself: His therories are genious. I use them a lot. I got an overview of them from Joseph Dillard who has integrated them into a dreamwork method he calls Dream Yoga, also called Deep Listening or Integral Dreamwork (so its not confused with Tibetian Dream Yoga), explaining the AQAL and how it relates to dreams. But it seems everything is supposed to be "integral" these days.

Irrespective of whether CC was "telling the truth" or not, his work had a valuable effect on millions of readers, including me. I'd say he was my first exposure to a real spiritual search. I don't practice the methods that have evolved from his books like Tensegrity but I've also adopted some more mundane methods from reading his books and have had some interesting experiences with shutting off the internal dialog, power walking, lookinf for power places and the like. Recently, after a 20 year hiatus, I revisited his works. Read all the books back to back. What a wonderful ouvre! Whether fact, fiction, or a little of each, I don't care. Curiously, while re-reading his works, it occured to me to try dreaming one night. I simply decided to do so and had the longest, most detailed, completely lucid dream of my life. It was a blast. Sadly, it appears that some negative stuff developed around his circle towards the end. Many visionairies come to bitter ends but his vision lives on much like others of our times.

wow, looks so nice. almost like a dream come true. you two are really lucky!

Hi there, I would agree with one of the previous posters that if the kidney energy is strong there shouldnt be too many nocturnal emmisions depending on age ie it is fairly normal for early teenagers ect, my advice if you are having trouble and are serious about your practice would be to see a reputable experienced chinese herbalist, the pathology of nocturnal emmisions is certainly a broad subject within chinese medicine, there can be a number of reasons for it, but certainly the core of the problem is kidney energy unable to restrain the essence or jing, this can be a problem for people who do qi gong and build up their energy, the energy is generated but cannot be held and so results in wet dream, in the mean time cerainly do watch your diet, foods that are rich can cause problems if you cant digest them properly, I would say avoid greasy foods and dairy products high sugar fruits and alcohol, stick to lots of veggies and protein and some grains rice ect, certainly try to curb your sexual desire porn ect, but definately dont suppress your feelings this is very unhealthy, deprogram dont reprogram, being aware of the dream state is also very helpful but for some is not such an easy skill to learn, there are numerous techniques that can be applied to become more aware and lucid in your dreams. there are chinese herbal formulas you can buy over the internet that treat nocturnal emmision using astringent herbs and herbs for the kidneys but these sometimes are innafective because they dont fit your unique pattern so you are better of finding a good chinese herbalist that is reasonably priced, anyways hope theres something in my post thats helpful. james

[This started as a note to a friend, but thought I'd share it.] Ok, here goes. First of all the full lotus sitting position. Its a long and magical road to master it, i personally am in the middle of my journey with it. If you can do it well naturally, I would recommend mastering it (being able to sit for hours with no discomfort without moving) On the other hand, if its not easy, it might be better to take another route. One of my masters NEVER sits in it, and meditates without it. I'm sure this man is at the highest level. So there are no rules I guess. Keep an open mind, but always trust yourself. The great thing about having a real master that you trust 100% is that you can take giant leaps forward by trusting them as you would yourself or more even. Life can be veiwed as a dream, and when enlightenment comes, we can play with waking reality as one does in a lucid dream. OR life can be veiwed as totally real- and when enlightenment comes you can ALSO play with waking reality as one does in a lucid dream! The funny thing is, real illuminated people tend to be the most unassuming relaxed normal people, who never manipulate anything beyond their felt place in life. What a paradox no? -Son

Here's what I do -- burn off my sexual energy as "O at Ds" during the day. In other words transform the lower emotion energy into light -- shoot it out of the pineal gland -- into REAL females -- giving them feelings of bliss and love. This in turn creates an internal climax for you, the male and also transduces your lower emotions into love. This is best done while in full-lotus but can also be done through reverse-breathing and "flexing" the pineal gland. If at night I feel really randy and think I will lose a load since I'm too tired and I have not converted my jing into chi -- then I may use physical stimulation while in full-lotus, making sure to retain as much as possible (which usually is probably 90% or more of the fluid). The fluid then is safely in your brain, having shot up the spine, where it is more easily converted to electromagnetic energy. If this doesn't happen and I end up going to sleep not having converted the jing to chi -- then usually in my dreams I will wake myself up right before losing a load. Usually in my dreams I'm shooting energy at people, flying, or if I get randy with a female -- I usually go into full-lotus in my dream. Sometimes I will have an internal climax while asleep -- this is great. My back just arches and it all just shoots up my spine -- and of course since it's a dream that's very vivid, it's as real as the waking state. haha. If I wake myself up before losing the load -- I just go right into full-lotus and then will actually climax with the "alchemical pill" safely tucked into my brain. haha. Then I can go safely back into sleep if I want. Having said the above it's been longer than I can remember since I lost a full load. It really grows your hair great as well when you're constantly feeding it with the transduced electrochemicals of anerobic bacteria and sex hormones, etc. ha!

"I think for serious students, this is a big hurdle to overcome." Absolutely correct; in fact, unable to cross this hurdle, all our effort will, in the end, become futile .The taoist saying is that : capable of stopping the process and reversing it means delaying the process of aging..... Considering a 58 years old man marries to a 45 years old ,healthy woman, their baby will still be as young as others.... Sexual dreams is nothing horrible if most of your jing has become qi; in that case even having sexual dream does not lead to release of it . A "goalkeeper" is there.... Of course, people may then think of the possibility of losing male reproductive ability; it seems not , the process is reversible... The same hurdle exists in female situation, unable to "slash the red dragon" , then any of her effort will finally become fruitless. Of course, all points above are only meaningful for very determined people.

I'll get right to the point here. If your sub-concious isn't "purified" or "reprogrammed" in a way to where your still having sexual dreams at night. Is it even possible to preserve your essence? Has anybody found any links between avoiding certain physical actions and reducing the sexual dream content besides the obvious (watching pornography, continuing sexual engagement, or daydreaming/talking about sex) A natural level of lucidity seems to be developing in my dreams when the time comes and I find my dream self attempting to use physical means to stop this but it just spills anyways. Another observation I've made is that the more I practice the less time there is between my nocturnal emissions. Thanks for your posts,

hi everyone, i am looking forward to fly to the usa and be in the seminar. i had an interesting dream about it tonite. i wish for all of us good vibes and i hope it will be a blessing for every participant. i hope we can really come closer to let go of our blocks and encounter more and more who we really are. love jan.

Yes it could work. I think however that the dream is about how the big draw can strengthen you, in your multitudinous self.

Hello all I had a dream describing how you could intesify the big draw practise if doing it in a group of quite many people. If you have people at the same level of practise in a row. Then in front of them another row of people that had reached a higher level in the practise. Then having alot of rows with people at different levels. When doing the big draw toghether the energy from the head should project into the sacrum of some of the people infront of you, shaping a bigger field of energy, and strengthening ewerybody in the group. Could this possible work? Regards Fire Dragon

No, that is definitely here. That is his whole point in fact. This is about realizing what is being pointed toward. It is about nothing else for Ramana, though we may have different ideas about our association with him. His only intent in using words is for you and I and everyone who hears or reads them to realize where they come from, and to abide as that. This is not a pipe dream, since he knows that it is possible. It is unavoidable as soon as we drop our worship, as soon as we drop our words, and enter into true prayer. If we do not know what these words point toward in our own experience, continually, then how is it that we are keeping this knowledge from ourselves?

THE REVOLUTION IS NOW O.K. so yesterday proved to be an interesting work shift. A co-worker whose been interested in my research talked to me about the movie I had loaned him -- Ancient Futures: Learning from Ladakh by Helena Norberg-Hodge. He said it made him feel bad and I said you mean guilty? He said yeah. haha. Anyway I mentioned I had met her and that he just needed to go deeper down the rabbit hole -- maybe watch Kung Fu movies! haha. But later we talked about socialism and the elections and the views of our families' politics and how this leads to irrational, emotional attacks in families, etc. I emphasized to him that the revolution is now -- that all of this is very superficial compared to the ecological crisis humanity is facing -- how literally what is happening has not happened on Earth in tens of millions of years and how reality should not be defined by humans. Later on he was frustrated from his environmental activist work and came to me with the nonverbalized expectation of an energy shot. I've done this to him before -- "hold on let me charge you up." He sits there and we sort of look into each others eyes but sometimes the energy is too intense for him. So I asked him if he had taken those shrooms as his plan was last time we had chatted. He described the experience and how he and his girlfriend had nausea for the first hour or so but afterwards he was able to obtain a sense of deeper awareness and he found his analytic skills in using language were much stronger. I stated that I had repeated our previous conversation for a recent blog interview that will be translated into spanish -- Sr. Psicoplasma's blog. haha. Then I stated that "civilization IS a side-effect." As my work continued -- in a part of the office where I am exposed to a lot of different departments exchanging information -- I continued sitting in full-lotus -- as the above took place. As Yogananda states about one of his gurus -- the full-lotus was "habitual" and so it should be. Later one young female worker asked me some question -- after realizing she didn't recognize me (my beard and head are now shaved). Another young female worker had just been asking my about what I said to a different worker weeks ago about music tuning and east-west culture. So I told her about the 12 notes along the outside of the body. Anyway the other young female worker didn't want to turn from my eyes -- my energy just flowed into her and she soaked it up. Later another young female worker joked how the other one had been distracting me and so the one looking into my eyes exclaimed: He looks so calm sitting there and he shot energy into me! It's nice to have those affirmations of the energy exchanges of which there were several more that day at work, as is usual. Of course I deal with the "side effects" of civilization as "negative transference" but there does seem to be more of a "mainstreaming" of this energy practice. Which brings me back to Richard Feynman. Another person I know in Minneapolis dropped out of his physics major after an interest in parapsychology (he actually hung out with Dr. Rhine at Durham). This friend who works at the local used bookstore -- he stated that Feynman had tried LSD in a deprivation tank of John Lilly but he hadn't discovered anything and dismissed it. Well today I happened upon Feynman's description and it was Ketamine -- not LSD -- but Feynman stated that when he smoked pot before doing a deprivation tank session then his "hallucinations" were much stronger. What's fascinating about Feynman's analysis is that he's building on his previous mind yoga training where he had studied his dreams. He now equates his dreams with his hallucinations. He stated that to make sure he wasn't dreaming he would wiggle his thumbs while in the deprivation tank -- EVEN THOUGH HIS CONSCIOUSNESS WAS OUT OF HIS BODY watching himself from behind. If you recall Feynman's dream yoga ended with the lucid dream experience of a metal rod rammed into the back of his head yet now his OBEs rely on also leaving through the back of his head. But just as with his dream yoga Feynman concludes that what we experience in OBEs are simple a byproduct of our subconscious thoughts and have no basis in "external" or physically perceived reality. The example Feynman gives is that he was trying to analyze were memory comes from in the brain -- how it's processed -- in contrast to a computer. He realized that his memory was guided by his sense of location -- when he just focused on a particular location then it would open up a series of detailed memories. So he finished his deprivation session convinced that this was the secret of how the brain stored memories yet he realized after 45 minutes -- that in fact that's a hallucination having nothing to do with the actual physical brain. First of all we need to realize that in fact not all dreams are hallucinations. As the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" emphasizes -- the one dream that is physically real is the nocturnal emission. Secondly Feynman was relying on Freudian psychology but there is no Freudian equivalent for having OBEs or lucid dreams which leave through the back of the head - yet we do find this in alchemy. So how do we resolve this problem -- the answer again is that the Revolution is NOW -- not "where." We find this again, just like Feynman's previous "triode" problem around the time of his dream practice, with another scientific experiment near the time of his deprivation practice. When Feynman was doing his dream practice he was also doing his triode research and I argued that the subconsious answer to his "dream" of the metal rod in the back of his head was solved through the "reversal of the pre-amp" (reversal of phase and therefore amplification of frequency) in his triode work. In this case Feynman gives his example of the perfect science experiment in contrast to what he called ""cargo cult science." The perfect experiment as he states, was ignored by other scientists because it "didn't discover anything about the rats." But the scientist did discover all the things you have to do to discover things about rats. What's fascinating about this Freudian Slip of Feynman is that indeed there had been something discovered about the rats in Feynman's example of the "perfect experiment." What was discovered is that rats are extremely aware of small differences in SOUND. (it was one of those maze-food door experiments and the scientist had tried to hide the door by smell and vision -- to no avail). Sound was the "limiting factor." But here we have Feynman declaring that there was nothing discovered about the rats. This is because Feynman himself does not give sound -- in particular the logical basis of sound -- enough importance. Feynman in his autobiography complains that math books had lost touch with practical science -- that there was a lack of word problems dealing with real physical situations. In Feynman's practice he stated that no matter what the physics theory he had to realize it -- test it -- in a real physical situation. Yet here's Feynman's Freudian Slip -- he dismissed the rat's keen perception of sound as a real physical situation. Not only that but the analysis Feynman did of his dreams and OBEs occurred as SOUND -- as language in his head. Finally consider the Turing Test of Godel's Incompleteness Theorem. Turing relied on the fact that Cantor's set theory is dependent on a MECHANICAL practice of creating diagonal lines -- in other words Turing was still relying on the logic of Cantor's set theorem as defined by visual, external reality -- whereas logic itself is NOT dependent on external physical reality, even though it still maintains a direct relation to it. We can find further details on this secret by remembering again that the REVOLUTION IS NOW -- not "where" in physical sensations -- but the logical inference of the source of time. Normally in physics time is not questioned -- for calculus, Feynman's forte, time is an "independent variable" based on the assumption that it's measured as a "divide and average" division of space. In contrast, to refer back to Feynman's misplaced insights on how memory is stored in the brain, biologist J.W.S. Pringle has argued that memory is a function not of place in the brain -- but of time. Physicist John Eccles and neuropsychologist Karl Pribram both expanded on this, arguing that memory in the brain is stored as a function of time as a synchronized holograph. The crucial function of a holograph, made from lasers, is the PHASE or inherent time of the space. As physicist Fred Alan Wolf states, "The amplitude of a wave measures its strength. The phase of the wave determines its rhythmic relationship with all other waves. When waves in phase add together coherently they form a single wave with dramatic strength." (p. 143, Space Time and Beyond). Now the technology of a laser still is dependent on a physical, visual, mechanical reality, but the concepts of amplitude and phase come from number theory -- the concepts of logarithms as time defined as "divide and averaged" space. But resonance, as constructive entrainment to create amplitude from frequency -- or coherent phase as amplitude frequency -- is not limited to "divide and averaged" time as space. In fact that's exactly the intractable limitations of science. When a harmonic function is unbounded by space -- even a very simple one -- then it can not be solved by calculus. The harmonic series itself is diverging and as my research has emphasized, in fact the harmonic series violates the commutative principle -- the very same principle Feynman complains about being over-emphasized in modern math books. Feynman wanted to stay a "nuts and bolts" man but the quantum physics itself violates the commutative principle and so such an abstract concept has been proven to be of serious interest in physical, mechanical science. So originally music theory, with C to G as 2:3 and G to C as 3:4 violated the commutative principle, yet also enables what would now be called a "fractal" -- something that can not be defined by reductionist science, yet is "self-recursive." The only problem is that fractals themselves rely on "divide and average" math using supercomputers to model. Now -- the natural resonance revolution is pure logical inference -- even not relying on Godel's definition of time as a function of space. Yet as the numbers resonate through the physical process of listening to the source of the I-thought -- there is a physical transformation, just like a laser -- the coherence of frequency creates a significant increase in amplitude. Only in this case the phase does not state as a function of squaring space -- space itself collapses to something even beyond time -- pure consciousness.

Thanks Cam, Seems like Max is moving towards Gold Flower. I'll have to make a special effort to catch his next round of U.S. sessions. Anyone I don't remember any particular teachings on spirit/dream travels. I'll write down (what I remember) of the Phoenix seminar soon. Michael

Hi there, i thought id give it a shot... since i saw there are a couple of CC fans on this forum. Has anyone read this book, im sure we can find it somewhere free on the web, there are a lot of valuable information in it about cultivation, that can apply to a lot of different paths. The story goes that CC left a legacy to one of his hidden students, to publish a book on the workshop notes he attended in the early years of CC's teaching, even before the tensegrity was made public. This mission was accorded to Armando Torres, for CC forseen that his followers and detractors would make his teachings loose their edge and direction. It is a refreshment, and also a zip/archive type of a book that has in it all the dramatism, wisdom, genius and insight of the previous books of CC. this being said, i hope we can make something out of this one thanx L1 http://www.thenagualbook.com/ here is the piece of jewel The Survival of the Assemblage Point "Carlos," I asked him, "what happens to us when we die?" "It depends," he answered. "Death touches us all, but it is not the same for all. Everything depends on one's energy level." He assured me that the death of an ordinary person is the end of his journey, the moment when he has to return to the Eagle all the awareness he obtained while alive. "If we don't have anything else than our life force to offer it, we will be finished. That kind of death erases any feeling of unity." I asked him if that was his particular opinion, or part of the traditional knowledge of seers. He answered: "It is not an opinion; I have been on the other side and I know. I have seen children and adults wandering over there and I have observed their efforts to remember themselves. For those who dissipated their energy, death is like a fleeting dream, filled with bubbles of steadily fading memories, and then nothing." "Do you mean that when we dream, we approach the state of the dead?" "We don't just approach it, we are there! But since the vitality of our body remains intact, we can return. To die is literally a dream. "You see, when an ordinary person dreams, he is not able to focus his attention on anything; he doesn't have anything but his fragmented memories, fed with experiences he has accumulated in the course of his life. If that person dies, the difference is that his dream lengthens and he doesn't wake up again. It is the dream of death. "The journey of death can take him to a virtual world of appearances, where he will contemplate the materialization of his beliefs, of his heavens and private hells, but nothing else. Such visions start disappearing in time, as the impulses of memory wear out." "And what happens to the souls of those who die?" "The soul doesn't exist, what exists is energy. Once the physical body disappears, the only thing left is an energy entity fed by memory. "Some individuals are so oblivious of themselves that they die almost without realizing it. They are like people with amnesia, people who have a blockage of the assemblage point and can no longer align memories, they don't have any continuity; as such , they feel permanently on the brink of oblivion. When they die, those people disintegrate almost instantaneously; the impulse of their lives only lasts for a few years at the most. "However, most people take a little longer disintegrating, between one hundred and two hundred years. The ones who had lives full of meaning can resist for half a millennium. The range expands even more for those who were able to create bonds with masses of people; they can retain their awareness during entire millennia."

August Leo and AriesAnne, the Kunlun dynamic duo. I will probably still be working on grounding after they have turned into light or something NJ will be my 5th. From what I recall the main points he taught 1st workshop-Kunlun 1 and Red Phoenix 1 2nd workshop-Mao Shan 5 elements standing, Kunlun, Red Phoenix, Golden Flower mudra 3rd workshop-I Jong, Kunlun, Red Phoenix, Gold Flower,Method to combine Kunlun and Red Phoenix together 4th workshop-I Jong, Kunlun, Red Phoenix, Gold Flower, Method to combine Gold Flower and Kunlun Also, he taught the spirit/dream travel technique at all the workshops. ps. I consider myself a total beginner at Max practice. If anything my experience from the first workshop to the 4th is going more into a beginners mind. Trying to think about Max practices don't work well for me. Just do them or don't. Also, I have experienced some cool things but still would say I am at a low level and nowhere near some other students.

There's an ancient drumming ritual described in the field recording compact disc, "Witchcraft and Ritual Music of Kenya and Tanzania," Basically young females believe they will be eaten by wild animals during a secret all night drumming ritual and then in the morning their bones are shown to those who are not initiated. In fact those females ARE eaten, by the drummer shamans. The female electrochemical energy is taken in by the drummers and in turn the drummers shoot out electromagnetic light energy into the females, creating a "mutual climax" of love-light. This is described in the British psychiatrist William Sargent book "The Mind Possessed: Exorcism and Ecstasy" (Sargent participated in the CIA's MKUltra, creating mind-controlled females through electroshock treatment). His "Mind Possessed" book is his travels to these nonwestern cultures to study their trance healing. In matrifocal horticulture society the males go train for three months in the sacred forests, separated from females. This training means storing up and transforming the hormones to create electromagnetic fields for paranormal powers. What happened is that after domestication of animals, around 10,000 years ago, the males came to believe that they "controlled" Nature and this is expressed in the ancient ritual of the solar eclipse. The "sun is sick" when the female, lunar energy covers up the sun or son. Therefore a sacrifice must occur to heal this female "sickness." This is the first original religion and it was an animal sacrifice at first. As left-brain, right-hand dominance developed further the sacrifice became humans through warfare; technology became the religion based on a "divide and average" solar-based geometry -- logarithmic math and statistics. As my final dream ended this morning I was told (in preparation for this question): Civilization is when the cooks learned to be cooked. haha. So this "mass ritual sacrifice" tradition is based on maintaining creation of civilization through "separation of heaven and earth" or the psychological separation of the lower body and upper body. The right brain, through nonwestern music, reconnects our lower emotions (lust, fear, worry, anger, sadness) which are the electrochemicals of our organs (reproductive, kidney, pancreas, liver, lungs). When this energy is harmonized through nonwestern music then ultrasound ionizes those emotions through heating the electrochemicals. Blissful heat is created which leads to opening up the heart energy -- establishing the harmony of heaven (mind) and earth (body). The latest issue of WIRED has a new study about how a simple decision is made by our brain seven seconds before we are aware with our cortex. In other words humans are actually controlled by our limbic-thalamus brain -- the emotional brain -- which in turn connects with the body through the cerebellum, and this is mediated by trance music. There is a delay before this emotional-motion perception actually reaches our cortex, which under the guise of "civilization" then returns back to repress the energy. When we become mind-controlled humans were are no longer aware of this role of the left-brain to cause dis-ease. What happened with the West is this whole tradition of trance, female singing healing was outlawed. Plato literally banned the trance modes of music so that only the major and minor modes were allowed -- the major for military solidarity and the minor for putting people in their place -- an emotion of sentimental nostalgia and disempowered tragic-comedy. What had been the matrifocal, intuitive paranormal energy became a conspiracy. Professor Bruce Lincoln, an anthropologist at University of Chicago, has an article published on this -- the secret transformation of the word "Metis" which had meant female knowledge as skillful power and for Plato became the excuse for evil. Metis became "female cunning reason" or lies that were necessary to maintain the proper distance from mob rule. Wittgenstein's protege, philosophy of science professor Stephen Toulmin, also writes about this secret change of Metis in his latest book, "The Return to Reason." The "lyre" (a hand-held harp) used to be for matrifocal philosophy -- epic songs of history and paradoxes, etc. but this musical trance knowledge now became the left-brain, right-hand "liar." Philosophy of science, liberal studies Professor Morris Berman has an excellent "secret" history of the West book called "Coming to our Senses" (Berman is now teaching in Mexico at some university). Anyway he argues that there's always been an undercurrent of this female orgasmic healing power in the West but usually when it's tapped into, through some sort of mysticism, it becomes this male, "grail" vertical ascent towards heaven trip -- whether it was "Jesus" Christ (Constantine) or Hitler, or the Pope Crusades, or Newton and Goethe. Berman is searching for the lost alchemical tradition of the West -- what he calls gnosticism, even though he knows he uses "gnostic" as a catch-all term. So Berman's next book was just on hunter-gatherer cultures and what a German anthropologist in the 1930s called "democratic shamanism." At one point in "Coming to Our Senses," Berman gets very close to the secret when he mentions a music book on minimalism stating that it's trying to get away from the polyphonic limitations of Western music. The basic secret in the West is that blues music is trance music. Blues is based on the 1-4-5 chord progression and I discovered in my research that the octave-perfect fourth-perfect fifth is the same as the consciousness-yin-yang resonance in Chinese Taoism. I then discovered that the three months of training in matrifocal shamanism of Africa (and in traditional Voodoo training in Brazil) is also the same as the 100 day "gong" in Taoist training. The problem with the West is that our sense of time relies on a "divide and average" system whereas nonwestern music uses the heart-beat of time -- syncopated rhythm. Our bodies naturally want to dance when we hear a syncopated sense of time, just as our heart naturally has a "chaotic" nonlinear rhythm. What happens in trance is that the sound of the drum is the same as the alpha wave frequency of deep relaxation -- about 15 beats a second is the actually drumhead frequency. Then the syncopated rhythm also lines up with the heart beat chaos which is also of that alpha frequency. A good friend of mine, African-American, was raised in a female, trance healing music in the Southern U.S. and he now drums with a Middle Eastern man who was raised in female belly dance trance healing. In Taoism this is the slow "active" exercise (just like the slow frequency of the low drumhead) -- the standing simple tai-chi movements based on the fact that our bodies have inherent energy flowing as complementary opposites. The upper and lower half of our bodies and the left and right hands naturally create a connected circuit which, when flowing, will enable our body to build electromagnetic fields for paranormal healing -- from the heart-mind connection. This is taught by qigong master Chunyi Lin's http://springforestqigong.com and it's been verified recently in the latest biophoton research. Whether it was the "pietist" movement in Germany or the Cathars of Spain and France or the "tarantella" spider poison possession music of Italy or the Ranters of England, there's always been some secret trance, female healing practice in the West. The explosion of the pentecostal, evangelical movement out of the U.S. and into the Third World in the wake of the CIA genocidal campaigns after World War Two is the latest example of this female trance healing merging of the West and the nonwestern cultures. Of course the Church uses witchcraft as an inversion -- holy spirit trance is used to exorcise the demons of tribal powers. In reality the female healing energy of Africa, Asia and Latin America has just become a new "secret" of the West -- what had been open healers using singing and trance and dancing -- now becomes a Christian prayer of speaking in tongues and channeling the Holy Spirit for some 500 million people in nonwestern cultures.

I did read something the other day that said brain patterns were the same when someone was, say, cycling or simply having a dream about cycling. Not sure how that applies... I guess what I learned is that there is the physical and there is the nonphysical (and of course the two are linked) but it always STARTS in the physical. Hmmm... And I guess I'd apply that to form and non-form or whatever. Plus didn't Ramana have a body and senses too?

Hi Bums, I was studying the other day, and I ran across a reference to a taoist dream yoga practice that sounded pretty interesting. There were only a few sentences to describe it, but gist of it is that during lucid dreaming you duplicate the 72 magical feats of the Monkey King, you know, from The Journey To The West. It sounded as though practicing the feats during dreamtime would help open energy channels and maybe even develop super-cool wizard powers in real life. Which is all well and good, but really I'm just interested in having some structure for my dream training. I've got some natural lucid dreaming ability, but I want to develop this skill as much as possible. Anyway, I've been trying to find a list of these 72 feats, and I'm having no luck. Has anyone ever heard of this training before? And does anyone know were I could find a list of the Monkey King's magic feats? And are the feat's described in The Journey To The West? I've never read it, so I have no clue. Thanks, Chris

Dude... If I believed in making things mandatory, I would make this post mandatory reading for all young seekers. Really I'm moved. People pursue things for all reasons and even the 'wrong' reasons seem en route to the 'right' ones. Your joy is your sorrow unmasked. And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears. And how else can it be? The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain. Happy homecoming. Nothing more beautiful than a reunion. (...now what's this "was" thinking of going to NCNM about? Someone of your rare and profound insight would be treasured there. And it's an incredible community, like a cross between Hogwarts, Wudang, and Woodstock in the best possible ways. I love that place, and though adventure has called me away for who knows how long, I dream of returning, either to teach or study. A new world is being born there...)

I sometimes make typos and am too lazy to correct them. It would have been more skillful to have said "learned about" rainbow body, diamond body practices of the buddhist tradition. Yes Trekchod, cutting through duality, and thogyal (Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche talks about that) , perceiving the luminous are part of the the practice in Bon Dzogchen to attain Rainbow body. Darkness retreats are a huge part of awakening this body. Vajra visualisation is used as part of it. This Rinpoche warns that anyone spending enough time in the darkness will start to have dream like experiences and images, he says without the above practices you will just trip on your karmic programming, without cutting through to duality, and there are very specific experiences and visions that are sign posts on the progressive involution of the 5 tattvas, tanmatras etc. Tummo has become associated with six yogas of naropa, mahamudra lineage of Milarepa, but it also seems to have been practiced by Nyingma havof Guru Padmasambhava and Bon lineages. Rainbow body means the physical body has united with the greater bodies( Dharmakaya Sarvikakaya). The physical body is sometimes said to shrink, but that is a lower attainment. In most cases the physical body dissapears, leaving just the hair and nails behind, very very few people ever attain this level. In cases of the Diamond body, they leave absolutely nothing behind, they have attained a full Vajra body and they never come back to a "physical" body. At least that is what has been said.

Look we have 4 DNA bases and 20 amino acids, how does RNA code for all of them? How does the ribosome know how to bind to the RNA? Well there's a recognition site on the mRNA that identifies AUG (Adenine Uracil Guanine), as a start codon. 4^1=4 4^2=16(nope not enough to account for all 20 AA) 4^3=64, more than enough to account for all AA plus a start AUG(also codes for methionine after RNA poly starts transcribing mRNA), plus 3 stop codons UAA, UGA UAG. The fact that there are only 20 amino acids and start and stop functions, and that there are 64 codons(of which DNA and RNA polymerase are both fully capable of reading and writing every one of them during replication and transcription of DNA to RNA + Ribosome + acetyl-t-RNA synthetases + transfer RNA's with codons and anticodons(with wobble base pair is fully capable of translating them in the primary sequence of a protein or we'd all be dead) indicates the code is degenerate - ie. there are 4 codons for alanine - 6 codons for serine 6 codons for arginine 2 codons for lysine, 4 for valine, 4 for threonine, 2 for cysteine, 4 for proloine, 2 - aspartate... you get the idea? We use ALL of them. Some kid with ADD does not have more functioning codons than you There are however some very interesting I CHING connections to the genetic code. The code is nearly universal however has been found to have a couple of exceptions between differing organisms, which codons mean which amino acid - fruit flies, mitochondria of mammals, yeasts mitochondria, plant mitohondria, protozoa nuclei etc. The multiple codons for AA are helpful from an evolutionary biology perspective because if by chance a single base does change in the codon, it is likely to code for chemically similar AA ie. if you have a protein that has a hydrophobic side chain mutating to a hydrophilic side chain, the result could destroy the functioning of the protein in a cell, single base change in codon that destroys the shape and there fore the function of hemoglobin preventing the binding of oxygen to the iron in the heme group hence sickle cell anemia. The degeneracy is thus a fail safe system, like a having multiple back up files.( Although arguably there are a lot of other epigenetic factors that determine how this mutation will be expressed or suspressed that are currently not fully understood - epigenetic meaning the histone code, X chromosome inactivation and other epigenetic processes.) Anyways there's the two cents. My advice is to read Mae Wan Ho. Genetic Engineering Dream or Nightmare, Fluid Genome, Rainbow and The Worm. She is brilliant! I love Mae Wan Ho!

I don't view the non-dualistic "nihilistic" version of enlightenment to be a bad thing, I am just saying that if a person achieved this version of enlightenment that they (as defined by egoic terms) would cease to exist. They would no longer be attached to any loved ones, or things, as those people and things would be apart of the dream they left behind when they awoke. If you went to sleep tonight, and realized you were dreaming, would you worry or get "stressed out" too much about anything? In your dream your place of work called, and told you were late, and if you weren't there in 20 minutes you were fired, would you rush to make it in time? What if you were offered millions of dollars, in exchange for a full nights labor? What good is dream money outside the confines of your own mind? If you knew for certain it was a dream, like the ones you have at night when you sleep, I don't think you would be to concerned about anything except enjoying it. Relaxing and absorbing all the mystery and wonder and knowing it all emanated from your own mind. Well thats what I would be doing anyway You wouldn't care much about other beings in a nightly dream. After all they were your own subconscious creations, and had no existence outside your own mind, and really were just parts of yourself interacting with you. For all intents and purposes here to us the "dreamers" an enlightened being in this regard would be the same as dead. A being who is completely empty, and hollow. I don't think most people are really searching for this or would even want it if they found it. Thats what I meant by my warning. I am not sure really this non-dualistic state of consciousness is true enlightenment, or perhaps the beginning stages of it. but from what I have read it won't stop the rebirth process, which to me is the whole point. What good is truth if you just go to sleep again and forget it. To me stopping rebirth takes priority above truth, because truth thats forgotten is pointless. Certain schools of neigong offer a way to fuse together your yin and yang aspects, and escape the cycle of rebirth. That is really what I am seeking, I will worry more about enlightenment after that milestone if I ever achieve it.