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Hi Everyone, I've had Chia's books since I was ~ 18 never had a need to use them but now at 33 they are more useful (Why does sexual response change? what makes a man at 18 able to have sex all the time and at 33 just not feel like trying again for a day or so ? ) Anyhow at the start of the year I was using the big draw out of Chia's Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy, and then moved onto his Multiorgasmic Man books, same method newer books I had success with the big draw but I started to feel a bit "out of sorts", depression after ejaculation (probably due to "failure" feelings) continual "sexual" feelings that wouldn't go away no matter how much I ejaculated / masturbated. So I stoped trying Chia's methods in April and went with Dr Lyn's Method. I got his CD a few months ago it's excellent, worth every penny and it's only cheep. Basically I have reached the stage where I am extremely happy with my physical performance and this month I had my first non- ejaculatory sexual experience where I felt totally satisfied and happy (i.e. just like I had ejaculated) I also have Healing Love through the Tao: Cultivating Female Sexual Energy by Mantak Chia I want to try dual cultivation....... So............................. how badly wrong can things go? :/ I'm am worried about trying to work with sexual energy, especially without a teacher. I think I'm quite self aware and I have a long history of trying mystical things and monitoring what goes on in my body and have my Tai Chi and Kung Fu practice as a safeguard when I stuff up energy work. And they do say "the teacher will show up when the student is ready" and I have wanted to try dual cultivation since I was 18 So I'm thinking that maybe that time is now. Any suggestions on how to proceed, resources etc specifically for women as I really have no idea what to suggest or to watch out for? Thanks in advance Mal p.s. I wasn't going to add this part but I have been doing Lyn's Anal Breathing and playing with moving energy this month and this weekend I had the same "over sexed" feeling that I experienced previously. I was doing single cultivation without ejaculation and I just didn't want to stop. Rather than diminishing my sexual urge ejaculation just made me frustrated as I still felt "sexual" but had to "wait" before I could do anything about it. A few days of masturbation to ejaculation 3 times a day seems to have setteled those feelings down now. In retrospect mastubating that much is how I use to feel when I was 18 edited due to a dream

Yeah man, just joking. I have to say though, when I read it was about babies, what you wrote next wasn't exactly what came to mind first. I think the dream means you are being too serious, and have to bring forth your inner child more.

My theory (since he mentioned Shrek) is that Harry was dreaming he was banging the human princess Fiona (from Shrek), who then turned into an ogre during the act. OR, he was doing it with that laidy dragon while flying. What would be the dream interpretation for that? :lol: BTW Harry, why are you mentioning you're single? Celibacy period already over?

Ok I sent an email asking about accommodations. sweet dreams. I'm still wondering about the VERY STRANGE dream you said you had, that you mentioned in your practise thread. obviously I'm imagining the worst possbile stuffs... I will post here whatever response I hear about peat accom.

What is the difference between a dream and reality? That one does not disappear when you wake up. Or you can say if you really have something you are less prone to the pain of discovering that it was all a delusion. Said that there are some things in which believing something might help you to get it. But believing something is not having it. Example you might thinkl you have 1000 dollar in your pocket, and this might give you the confidence to go at an interview and eventually have the job, and then the money. But just believing that is so, it just doesn't work. Especially when you try to pay with it. it is this kind of concept that I think is the more viral and dangerous part of the new age mentality. And the one that most of us received as part of our HT training.

The secret... fasting, meditation(trance), and celibacy, and feeling not visualizing energy... It doesn't have to be complicated. The more time you spend going deeper and deeper into trance, the more aware you become, the more you "wake up" from this dream, the more lucid you become, and the more control you have over it. some things for you to check out robert peng www.robertpeng.com is also able to generate electricity like john chang. The secret... everyone wants to know... is the trance state... the deeper in trance you go the more enlightened you can become. Trance work is the key... check out energy work by robert bruce and buy robert pengs dvd both are worth their weight in gold

It's an interesting time. I feel the world is a bit out of balance; war without peace, hate without love, ignorance without enlightenment. These are all problems which require more thought than I am currently capable of devoting. Corruption runs unchecked, entire nations live in oblivion. In one way I suppose this has always been the status quo, but in another I know we are capable of so much more. Realizing the futility of trying to change the world is a sobering experience. What remains when you abandon the world? Only oneself. And in this realization I find another world of imbalance. Vanity without true health, material wealth without substance, work without lesure: a chaotic existance. A fickle pursuit of money, meaningless attraction, trivial sexual escapades, cars, alchohol, and prestige; expensive hotels, insincere politeness from those around you, artificial friends, beatiful girls who are genuinely disinterested or useless. Wasted potential and wasted time. But is it really? Does it make you less of a mystic or less of a sage if you drive a BMW? Wouldnt a true mystic drive nothing at all? Maybe so, but is this man truly a sage or an enlightened individual, or is he merely living up to the stereotype which we have created for a wandering monk? It is a series of questions... What is the balance to a life of excess? Charity? Raising children? So many questions. What does a monk do with wealth? Give it away? I find myself surrounded by things that denote success. But I feel no satisfaction in it. It is merely the fruits of years of compromising what is important to me. My free spirit is subdued for the sake of profit, for alas my sense of necessity is keen on the fact that wealth is a necessary evil. Still, there has to be something more. One could say the classic life of the clergyman or seeker is dead. No longer is it possible simply to leave behind your belongings and wander for years. Nobody will take you into your home and give you sanctuary for a night of your journey, you can no longer simply bed down when your feet are tired, or when you come upon somewhere you identify with. The passages in Basho's work today seem fiction, though just a few hundred years ago it was a perfectly acceptable and even admirable life. Now there are taxes, insurance, bills for everything even if you own nothing, superhighways, hotels, and the mindset that a wandering man in shabby clothes is a vagrant rather than a poet or wiseman. The few places on earth that offer the sanctuary of a monastery are across the world, where I do not speak the language nor could I ever hope to integrate wholly. I would be just another westerner and judged as such. Rightfully so, for there have surely been many an insincere round-eye who's gone this route. What is a modern monk? Such a concept is laughable to most, and disgraceful to the rest. What would my family think if I simply quit my jobs, sold my cars and said I'm becoming what is essentially a bum? Could I be happy with no money, no respect, and no future? Would it be a passing phase where after a few years I would be fed up? I'd be left behind by my industry and essentially useless. It makes a man think what is important to a man. What our society values is not what I value, but I still feel compelled to live up to the American dream. So, where does it leave me... I'm not even sure anymore. Life is nothing more than balance, can I strike a balance between conventional success and unconventional prosperity? This is the current iteration of my adventure, and I will start sharing it here. Let's chat some time.

In his autobiography he mentioned two paranormal events, that I recall: 1. Early in their marriage, his wife had fallen while ice skating, and was bedridden for some time - no one was able to help her. A healer came to town and someone said, "we've tried everyone else, let's try the quack". They did, and the healer was very clearly talented. Immediately partially healed her, said the cure was partial and that he'd reached the limits of his ability, and described what he thought her probable permanent condition would be - and, viewing from near the end of his life, Twain said that the healer had been correct. Twain asked the guy how the healing worked, and the guy said that he didn't know, but that he thought it was some kind of electricity. 2. Twain had a vivid prescient dream about his brother's death.

Taomeow, How can any of us be sure that anyone else has really dreamed the same dream for thousands of years? Perhaps we just dreamed that they have... It all goes back to the question of verifying a consciousness other than your own. I personally have not yet developed a way of doing this, thus I remain open to the possibility that I am imagining everyone and everything else. Mark Twain was a great writer, and he touched on many of the topics that made people uncomfortable in his time. A completely unrelated peice that I enjoyed was "The War Prayer", a short story that I recommend to anyone who likes his style.

Saw them yesterday for the first time at good resolution. Saw the first video of "Dragons of Wudang" as well. Was inspired to post some video of a Shaolin monk on my home site. There is a video of him paying respects to a tablet of Bhodidharma and then free forming a little and you can see him ... shrinking ... his form down in this tight hallway... The internet is providing some windows in which we must truely discern and follow through, because the arts are at a time in which the technological growth accross the landscape can be ergonomically tempered w/ individuals who understand the art. I digress. Protect Mother Earth. Just being around people EVERYday that are moving in similar ways is a powerful experience. Not to mention being around people on a parrallel spiritual path. If you have a practice you do everyday you can really get in your body more then someone who doesnt and learn things faster through mimicry. At my first opportunity training w/ Sei Gung in 2000 we learned a wei dan chi gung 'form', perhaps 'guide' is a better term. But I think because I traveled to learn it, I learned it fast and was motivated to practice it for benifits. A year later i went back and we started learning the classic 108. I practiced the 1st section for a year before I learned the rest. Everytime I've traveled to learn it really turns out well, never fails to take me out of my element to 'let go' of un-needed patterns and look at myself and the universe w/ a different perspective, oh yeah... and learn more FASTER. This type of learning isn't just about memorization, it's about optimal health & movement. Currently researching it. China is a big country. I am attracted to the movements of wudang because of the spirals I see coming off of them. But there are more masters around there than Shifu Yuan, 72 peaks? A Ley Hunters Dream.

Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Bill Hicks 1961-1994 _____________________________________________________________________________ "A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Albert Einstein _____________________________________________________________________________ It is said that soon after his enlightenment the Buddha passed a man on the road who was struck by the Buddha's extraordinary radiance and peaceful presence. The man stopped and asked, "My friend, what are you? Are you a celestial being or a god?" "No," said the Buddha. "Well, then, are you some kind of magician or wizard?" Again the Buddha answered, "No." "Are you a man?" "No." "Well, my friend, then what are you?" The Buddha replied, "I am awake."

I don't mean to offend anyone even witches and or warlocks Please don't hex me My opinion is only based on the witches I have met personally. I have known quite a few individuals who label themselves witches (wiccan) and or practitioners of high magick. They believe (they being the ones I have met) if they construct the correct potions, with herbs and crystals and moonlight and spells, and chants, and insignia's and magickal seals, and whatnot... they can somehow cause great changes to their reality. (I aint seen it yet) I have pointed out there is no direct and immediate feedback in this process (i.e. you have to wait days, weeks, months even for the spell to kick in) and that observing the results scientifically would be impossible, unless they could produce direct and immediate effects like telekinesis etc. I have also remarked that it would be most logical to study under masters who have actually DONE something amazing, learn from them instead of trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak.. All my attempts to be rational and logical with them failed and then crashed and burned. It seems to me they (they being the ones I know) don't really care about ultimate truth, about waking up from this dream, about developing real power, they want to play dress up and make mud pies to feed to their voodoo dolls. Lots of silly ritual, no real meditation, no real search for the truth. Do I think they are evil? NO... I do however think just making up things and reading a few books written by people with no real power, and then pretending you have some great cosmic power to manipulate reality (but your still living with your parents) is delusional and heading into fruit cake territory.

Agharta, very interesting! I had heard of clay for fasting, but never tried it. Hadn't considered it an everyday thing. All I have is bentonite right now. Cat, I'm glad there's another soul out there who knows how to dream big! If I live to tell the tail (sorry) I'll let you know. -Yoda

Hello, I felt the other thread got way too off topic. Perhaps this thread can focus simply as a directory for Masters with such abilities that offer books, or DVDs of their teachings, rather than a debate on the subject. This could possibly apply to books/DVDs written by their advanced students also. Thanks in advance -m ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would also like to add that I do not believe in the supernatural or paranormal. There is only the natural world, anything we call supernatural is merely because of our lack of understanding of said phenomenon. I am seeking enlightenment, and more importantly liberation from this cycle of death and rebirth. That is my goal for this life, and I intend to do my very best to achieve that, and help others do the same. I view practices like the lei shan dao (lightning and thunder path) which have a level based system, and develop powers as milestones along this system, as the only viable method for accomplishing my goals in this lifetime. To be honest I view this reality as a dream, and have no interested in showing off magic tricks, or harming, or controlling other people. I want out, and the fastest and most logical method for this is finding a master who can back up his development along the path with abilities(such as robert peng, or john chang). I do already have a neigong master (cannot comment further, please don't ask) who is absolutely amazing and who can some amazing things, however I want to learn all I can from all the masters I can, so I can find my own way as I always have. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So Far..... Max Christensen (Lama Dorje): http://www.risingredphoenix.com/ Robert Peng: http://www.robertpeng.com/

Hi, a non-expert for sure (as sure as the day) that I am, somethings from my own experience tells me that the Universe will re-arrange for you when your intent is right. Back in 2002/3, I had started rigorous Tai Chi and pranayama/mediation techniques (albeit self-taught) and I had teachings via a series of dreams (most folks would consider me as being reasonably "sane"). Perhaps most folks don't consider "Dream teaching" as valid, but it was real as it gets and that was real meditation. Maybe the teacher is out there, right within your sight, but you are not able to see him/her? We sometimes close our mind to possibilities because of pre-conceived notions of what "should be". My Tai Chi Teacher tells us that we need to hold a beginner's mind, without which learning cannot happen (I'm not saying you aren't doing that, but simply that it is recommended). however, most of times, I don't know what the heck I'm talking about...

Randi offers 1mil to anyone who can prove supernatural or occult abilities. The challenge is rigged from the get-go... there is no such thing as supernatural or occult abilities. Even John Chang explains his abilities are completely natural. Even a Level 72 Mo Pai Master would have no supernatural abilities. If Randi were really serious he would word his challenge differently. I am seeking enlightenment, and more importantly liberation from this cycle of death and rebirth. That is my goal for this life, and I intend to do my very best to achieve that, and help others do the same. I view practices like the lei shan dao (lightning and thunder path) which have a level based system, and develop powers as milestones along this system, as the only viable method for accomplishing my goals in this lifetime. To be honest I view this reality as a dream, and have no interested in showing off magic tricks, or harming, or controlling other people. I want out, and the fastest and most logical method for this is finding a master who can back up his development along the path with abilities(such as robert peng, or john chang). I do already have a neigong master (cannot comment further, please don't ask) who is absolutely amazing and who can some amazing things, however I want to learn all I can from all the masters I can, so I can find my own way as I always have. I know robert peng is one such person, and I do plan on training with him. I thought maybe other people here might know of other such masters. Thanks in advance. -m

Um... if I was to avoid killing what I eat, this would by no means be limited to meat. When you bake leavened bread (as I do), drink kefir or yogurt or kombucha, make miso soup or munch on sauerkraut, you kill living beings -- yeast cultures are living beings, and incidentally, animals, not plants! So if you mean it's OK to kill plants but not animals, lots of food groups in addition to meat will have to be abandoned. All fermented foods. All foods that haven't been sterilized to death -- these have billions of animals, bacterial animals, in every bite. So you probably mean it's not OK to kill animals for food that are big enough for you to notice. Meaning, long as you're in denial because you can't see what you're killing, you qualify as a non-killer. If you were to kill a human being, e.g., without noticing (as in a hit and run car accident when you're too drunk to pay attention and to even notice that you hit some pedestrians), this would be perfectly fine if we follow this logic. However, there's another problem. What did vegetables do to you? Why is it OK to kill them for food while it's not OK to kill animals? Do you hate plants? Do you despise them and therefore deny them the status of "living beings?" They ARE living beings, believe me. I spent one most enlightening summer learning from a fern, Sifu Fern in my backyard who told me in a dream he would teach me, and did. I learned Sacred Geometry from him, three months of the best education I ever had (and I do have a master's degree from a human university! ) Doesn't it prove that this plant is not only a living but a sentient being? Some Native Americans call trees Plant People, they even go as far as to call some rocks Rock People. If I were to adopt a faith that forbids eating live beings, in this system, as well as in classical taoism, I'd be prohibited to even put salt on my food... and, furthermore, WHAT, if anything, could I really eat at all with this prohibition in mind if taking the blinders off lets one see that everything in creation is a living being and avoiding the use of same for food is simply not one of tao's concerns? And my cat, my cat! you mean I would be spiritually or morally superior to my gentle but incorrigibly carnivorous cat sage if I was a vegetarian? That's speciesm in my book, the worst form of racism!

actually, it's not all that secretive at all. there are tons of books (some better than others) that deal with the subject as well as give training tips. shaolin still practices iron shirt, and they teach it openly. healing tao university offers iron shirt as one of their fundamentals. come to think of it, i'm having trouble thinking of any system with martial roots that doesn't offer some form of iron shirt training. i don't know what fantastic feats you saw in these movies, but iron shirt really isn't all that complicated. the conditioning process is long and can be painful, but there's no real magic to it. you won't be able to stop bullets or anything. you take thousands of blows and condition your body. you pack qi in your limbs and torso to nourish your body. then you take thousands of blows to condition your body. i say that more in jest; it's not quite that simple. but it's not all that complicated or mystical, either. back when i was a fighter, i could take a bat to the ribs with little problem. i wouldn't dream of trying it now. i can still break bricks, but it doesn't take iron shirt training to do that. there were even a couple of parlor tricks i could perform, but they didn't make me special or fulfilled as i thought they would. but what WAS significant was that i was less aware of the subtleties in my body, and i sustained organ damage as a result of stress. let me emphasize: i did NOT sustain damage from any blow. i sustained damage from continued stress, and much of that stress was a result of my training at the time. so it depends on the degree to which you take it.

reading through these posts reminds me of the serious error i committed in the beginning of semen retention. you become obsessed with trying not to ejaculate that you make your mind go haywire. in the taoist texts it says that you should and can ejaculate every now and then, for a man of 20-30 years of age i believe it's once every four days. if you decide not to do it then it may be in vain as you can ejaculate during wet dreams which you may not remember so you actually may have ejaculated and not known about it! the taoist texts mention that when you ejaculate during a wet dream it is 100x more harming and the same goes for ejaculating in the winter. my advice is to simply find your cycle. if when you ejaculate you feel refreshed, light, joyful and what not then that is the time frame you need to use. if you feel depressed, drained, fatigued, etc then you need to give yourself a longer period. i hope this will help!

I saw "the men who fell to earth" ! I was a huge Bowie fan back in those days. It was amazing, as Bowie really did seem out of place on this planet. ( I like nic roeg's films, generally.) voice, yes I saw the fountain last week, and I enjoyed it. I loved the sensous visuals, and the music and the general texture and ambience of the piece. (And Hugh Jackman's looks!) It was like a moving painting, or a half dream, so I enjoyed it as it made a change from the more usual linear narratives that the movie business offers us. but I wouldnt argue if you wanted to say it was ultimately trite. At the moment I'm loving christopher guest's movies... ( he made 'spinal tap') have you seen waiting for guffman"? I like mockumentary humour. I'd like to know what movies sean recommends....? Gary Oldman as Dracula is one of the most memorable performances I've ever seen, absolutely. How about Klaus Kinski? he's an interesting actor. HAs anyone seen Fitzcarraldo? And I never forget when I first saw Harvey Keitel and Robert de Niro in "Mean Streets".... wowee...

This is a pretty big question for me. At heart my take is that law of attraction has alot of positive things but where it falls apart in respect to awakening or enlightenment is the center of LOA..you..is seen through. If "you" are no longer the main attraction of your life LOA isn't so interesting. By the same token, we see many people in the "dream state" have great success in wordly matters, making money, attracting what they want. I was actually thinking of starting this thread yesterday saying how awakening is bs and LOA is where it is at to become "successful". But at this moment I have doubts about that. Adyashanti said something that I think sums it up well. Someone asked him about law of attraction, attracting the business, the woman that he wanted to him and how that related to awakening. Adya said with LOA you try to get the girl that you want. When your awake, if the girl that you want wants to be with someone else your so happy for her that she got what she wanted. Thoughts?

mr beancurdturle sir, dreams are merely the minds way of putting the unresolved events of the day into some kind of order (bear in mind, that the mind will accept a nuerotic order as well as a balanced order) awakening is not a dream, it is merely the endings of all dreams, there are no more dreams because there is only order. my humble words are yours to use or abuse as you wish peace and happy pancakes, paul

I had a dream that I caught a meteorite. I know very little about them, but would really like one - does anyone know anything on the subject - where to buy, how not to get conned, any esoteric uses etc? I remember reading somewhere (connected to John Chang in some way) that meteorites hold a powerfull yin energy that is only available in the vacuum of space... Also remember seeing program about nuclear fusion, and that the most efficient way of doing it is to use 'helium 3' - which is very scarce on earth but abundant on the moon (at least)... fusion is about joining particles - alchemy... helium 3 being the alchemical agent (maybe a physical manifestation of this yin energy?)

Thanks for the excellent guidance. When I started (I call it Yi-Quan, I-Chuan standing exercises) hard hard hard. Had a dream signifying how important it was to practice. Persistence is crucial. The results very concrete. The connection to heaven and earth. The solid movement of energy. It has everything to do with manifesting that same solid energy in your martial arts, in your energy healing.

For me, the difference between awake and asleep... Kind of opposite. When I'm asleep and dreaming, it's like I'm really where everything makes sense. Sometimes I bring wisdom out, sometimes I just bring confused me back out. When I'm awake, it's like I'm sleeping in our world of taxes, bills, crime but also flowers, ice cream, sun. I know when I die I'll go into the dream world. So, for now, I enjoy the sun.