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there is in this world two authorities one of the fist one of the dollar, they both work for fear. there is in this world two realities one of the dream one of what is, they both work for emptiness.

Isn't it obvious? To live your dreams & dream your life. As more information is revealed a certain individual sameness is encountered in which fear is obliterated and the union of subject object congeals. The obviousness of not dispelling observations and perceptions from the process seems plain. To have preconceived notions is setting yourself up for failure in one way or another. The point here is not the fantastic sounding nature or levitation, it is the ordinary experience in which the seeker finds extraordinary. Taoist mind/body practices does its job in stripping away the ego of the practitioner. Deconditioning I suppose. True learning is forgetting conditioned patterns and returning to a natural state. Nature Mind. Yi. If the sensation of floating is experiences in sitting or standing meditation, most people leave these things unsaid or confide in their mentors. I think proper practice reduces the effects of inertia on the practitioner. I can't think up one thing that would help me feel better. I can do many. The simplicity of good a movement speaks for itself, the movement is the thought, there is no thought that is not movement, thoughtless movement... motionless thought. Peace of mind Spectrum

I have told you (look up earlier in this thread) that I have always had this dream. You waste my time.

By "ego" I mean a sense of a seperate self that seemingly chooses what it wants or doesn't want. Ime not saying the thoughts that there is a seperate self that seemingly chooses what it wants or doesn't want doesn't happen. Ime saying it does happen..most people live and die there entire life believing in it..but it's all an illusion(possibly). This perspective..sounds absolutely ridicoulous to the ego identity and if your not "awake". And let's face it. No one on Taobums is even close to being enlightened so we are mostly just giving our opinion on what we "think" is true..which is mostly more illusion. But I still think it's interesting enough to get feedback on. Even if it is feedback from dream characters who think they are real

Miraculous abilities are not attainments. They are natural expressions that become freed up when the time is right. It's like this. It's as if you believe you must hold your head in order for your head not to fall off. So you keep holding it all your life and everyone else is doing so. Seeing someone with both hands away from the head is a miracle. But that ability is not an attainment. It's something everyone can do as soon as they get rid of the belief that the head will fall off if you don't hold it. Who or what wants the answer? If you were truly interested in flying, you'd have already flown in your dreams. Then you'd know what I'm talking about. If you haven't yet, it means you're not interested. And if you're not interested, asking is a waste of time. Yen Hui: If you really want to know, I suggest you learn to lucid dream and try flying when dreaming.

I agree it's probably not a simple yes or no answer. But in a way it is. When I stumble on this sense of "not knowing"...of being open to the possibility that there is no self and thus "no controller" it takes my mind to a deeper place. But perhaps people from wisdom traditions such as Buddhism or Taoism might say there is no controller or decider but there is the deeper aspect we might call "spirit" or "prajna wisdom" or "awakeness". This awake presence is "self so". This aspect of life Sailor Bob calls "intelligence energy". The whole universe runs itself. The sun doesn't will itself to shine, flowers don't will themselves to bloom, it's all natural. Only us human beings have this cognizing ability and all of our emotional states to imagine a self in control and behind the wheel steering all of this. And let's face it. People love the idea of a self that is in control and steering what is. We all(for the most part) cherish this seperate self and compare it to other selves to see how "successful" we are. We compete, work our asses off, to accomplish things and then turn around saying "look at what I have done". Could you imagine one of the really "successful" people in the world, a worldy success like Bill Gates or Oprah or Bill Clinton or whoever, saying "I really don't have anything to do with this, it's all just what arises and happened on it's own". No! We love the idea of a controller or a director. It may not be as cut and dry as saying there is no free will and no director and it's all just a big make believe show we are playing. But my guess is that is closer to the truth than the dream land of ego's in control the world is in. Happy to hear others opinions though.

I can teach you these. It's very easy. Have you ever done it in a dream? How did you do it? It's the same "in the waking", since both dreaming and waking have the same source -- mind. Warning: if your psyche is not ready to accept this kind of experience, you will be very very frightened, because if you're not ready and you fly like that, it's like going insane, where you no longer know what is real and what is not real. So it's best to leave that alone. When the right time comes, you will fly without any effort anyway, because it will be as natural as breathing and eating is right now. There is no need to force anything.

this dream, vortex, tell me, where is it now?

This is a good thread. Here are more thoughts. A calf wants to suckle. But at the same time, the cow, which is full of milk wants the calf to nurse. In fact, there is a saying to the effect, 'more than the calf wants to suckle the cow wants him to nurse'. When we manifest with intention, I believe we are basically asking the universe, god, for something. When the ego gets involved, the ego wants what it wants on it's own timescale. The ego gets worried that it might not manifest or the ego feels it needs to 'do' something to make it happen. Incidentally, I believe this is how sin and evil manifests into the world--when the ego feels the need to act. If we just let god or the universe bring it to us we would not 'sin' or cause anyone else harm. It comes when we don't expect it and it comes in forms we may not expect. I believe this is true detachment, and true egoless. When we want to control and direct our lives the way we want it (basically ego in it's ugliest) we are trapped in the dream. The greatest thing we can do is not only attract for ourselves, but attract for other people to be happy. When I take care of my neighbor and not just myself, then we are really getting somewhere.. T

Wow..Yoda is so wise. So basically..if you can help me sum this up for future generations of seekers..Adveita..aka AWAKENING..is where it is at. But if you want to hold on to the idea of a seperate self then LOA is where it is at..so you can be successful in the dream state(of seperation where seperate self needs xyz to feel complete). Correct?

advietist? dreaming may wake you up, so will play in your dream until you wake up? just wake up and be done with it.

I doubt the validity of LOA you want something you attract it you hate something you repulse it this is the work of desire/thinking all desire stems from seperation you seem to be saying, I would rather play in a dream than wake up, thats ok too. peace

I once dreamed that I was in a car with Thelerner, he was driving. It was some kind of white car, I don`t remember the dream well anymore. We were talking about something, when Thelerner drove on middle of the road a bit and all of a sudden a truck came also on the middle. Then Thelerner drove completely on the other side, and the truck did the same. We narrowly missed an accident.

I can detect the chattering. It is like scenes being played out in my imagination, following thoughts. Like waves after a "plop" of a stone in water. When it is to much chatter it seems to drain energy. But I try to regard it as something positive. I see the thoughts as "dream-like" and creative potential. (for instance;When you make a sculpture, and you choose to keep, you also choose to disregard and throw away matter.) This is what happens around the thinking process. Of course on a bad day I can clearly see the resemblance to schizofrenia.. . For me being in deep meditation beyond concepts, in the quietness, relaxes and refreshes the nerves. And to be able to recall this state gives comfort when "I am being helplessly beaten by the waves of samsara". Unfortunately now I am able to detect the difference between being reactive and being in balance... and as a consequence the sadness and joy, and the need to forgive, accept and let go is growing stronger. The state beyond concepts works for me a bit similar to chi/prana, like a subtler form of nutrition.

PART TWO:- Speaking of professional dowsers, I recently ordered Paul Smith's DVD Dowsing Course. It has'nt arrived yet, and certainly was'nt cheap, by any stretch of the imagination, so I sure hope it does'nt disappoint. If it's merely a problem of being just too advanced for me, that's ok, as I know that's only a temporary situation! The Silva Method sounds very interesting, and I've heard good things about it from someone else, too, so I'll check into it. I will definitely create my own practical training exercises, but the ones you describe above don't sound too shabby at all, to be honest; so I might try them as well. They are very creative, and I like that! Just out of curiosity, do you remember what kind of pendulum you used in those experiments? As I say, Ayudar, I don't have too many dreams, at least that I remember, but in late November 2006, I had another peculiar dream, very short in length, but clear as day, of a little toddler, maybe 2 or 3 years of age, with a wide-open mouth. And with its mouth fixed in a wide-open position, for whatever reason, I watched an abnormally large Bumble-Bee fly inside the mouth and refuse to fly back out; thus, I was forced to stick my fingers inside the toddler's mouth to retrieve the bug by hand. Strange, huh! Well, it baffled me for awhile, and still does to some extent, but about a month later, the thought came to me that the toddler symbolized my own inner child, and that my fingers inside the mouth were my own efforts to remove the internal bugs from my own internal system or hard-drive, before I'm stung to death by them. Is my interpretation close, do you think? Becoming "the primary tool" kind of sounds a little like what Spectrum was saying on pg 1 of this thread, about his whole body being a dowsing rod. It makes good sense, actually! I'll keep that in mind. By "tapping into life's energy vibrations in all areas," I take it you mean all areas of life, whether in spirit, soul, or body. While that is my intent, for sure, I confess that my first and initial attraction to it was its practical application in physical healing; but I quickly realized its true potential was really wholistic in nature, as you point out. Master Dowser Raymon Grace, for example, uses the art to expell unwanted entities, which he denotes as "low class spooks", something like the entity you have described in one of your patient cases, though I must admit that your description really made that entity appear more "inhuman" and far more sinister, indeed! I have a couple dowsing charts, but I'm not yet sure if they're the ones most "commonly used". Is there any particular place online (that you might know of) which carries a good selection of charts? I like the idea about the anatomy chart(s). I had'nt thought about that. The idea about having different pendulums for different applications also makes good sense, I feel. Regarding how to select the right pendulum, though, one of the links you provided below gives the following advice on that:- "To find a pendulum you resonate with, pick one up with your dominate hand (the one you write with) place it over your non-dominate hand and wait for some movement. The movement can be back and forth or circular. When first starting to use a pendulum the movement may be very small or slow. As you practice and work with it the movement will increase." By the way it sounds, it seems as if it is unwise to purchase a pendulum without first trying out the above resonance exercise with it. Does that sound "kosher" to you, so-to-speak? If yes, then that would seem to rule out Internet purchases; and I was just beginning to warm-up to the Isis model but am now reluctant to put out good money for anything that I cannot run the above resonance experiment on first. Is there a book out there, you think, of pendulum designs, for the do-it-yourself dowser who'd like to experiment with making his own pendulums, etc? I would expect, though, to learn about this from the Association you've recommended. Those are some great book recommendations, Ayudar! Thanks for the tips. I have a recorded interview of Lynn McTaggart in which she discusses both her book on The Field and her newest book on The Science of Intention. I've owned a couple of Targ's books in the past, but not his Limitless Mind. I have never owned anything by Emoto, but have heard great things about him, so I'm certain I'll eventually acquire all 3 of your recommendations. Many kind thanks for them! That's some seriously impressive resume, honestly! Wish it was my own! Maybe someday. Btw, just out of curiosity, have you heard anything about the "new" cutting edge Program called Matrix Energetics? It is a system largely based upon the principles of quantum physics. Dr. Fred Alan Wolf exerted a great influence upon Dr. Bartlett, the founder of ME. Incidentally, Dr. Bartlett agrees fully with your assessment of "orthodox methods" of healing; and describes himself as most "unorthodox" in his approach to the healing art(s). Sorry to disappoint, but actually I have not yet read the Medical I Ching, but have had my eye on it for some time now; along with 18 Buddha Hands Qigong - A Medical I Ching Exploration, and The Yijing Medical Qigong System, each of which I plan to acquire. I was just hoping to "luck-out" as they say, and get some insight on the book from a properly trained Naturopath, with training in multiple other disciplines as well. All of the above links were very helpful. Many thanks for posting them, and for all your recommendations! In regard to formatting links, it took me a little while to figure it out, but here are some examples for you, just in case the thought has ever crossed your own mind:- Example 1: text? [/size ] [/url ] Example 2: [i ]text? [/i ] [/size ] [/url ] Example 3: [b ] text? [/b ] [/size ] [/url ] Example 4: [b ] [i ] text? [/i ] [/b ] [/size ] [/url ] One thing, though, be sure to remove all the gaps, except in the text message spot where you see the 'text?', or it won't work right. I had to leave gaps there for you to see what was happening. In closing, though, I'd like to add two more links to the above list, which strike me as beneficial for the beginning dowser:- 01 - A Letter to Robin: A Mini-Course in Pendulum Dowsing 02 - A Well, Ayudar, once again I'm sorry it took me so long to get around to posting a more complete reply to your excellent post. Thanks again for your kind consideration in taking the time to reply at length to my queries. In the spirit of the Tao, Yen Hui

Adyashanti works with people in prison. One of the things he said about visiting with the 'lifers'(people in there forever..you can guess the kind of stuff they did to get there) is 2 profound things(for me anyway). 1. He says when talking with many of the ones that are interested in awakening when they go back to when they did whatever they did most often an unconsciousness arises over them. Especially the ones who are seriously into awakening when they visit the time when they did it it's almost like it wasn't them and it was like a bad dream that occurred. All of the identification and attachment that causes suffering is based on this notion of a seperate 'me'. As soon as the seperate 'me' is seen through the trance of ego is lifted and the 'real you' may emerge(so I here). Adya says from the persective of awakening if you chop someones head off you realize your head is rolling on the floor. 2. He also noticed for the 'lifers' that it wasn't until they really accepted that they were going to be in prison until they died with really no hope of getting out that they could come to peace. The ones that were lifers and still struggling with the thought of getting out someday had the most suffering. Obviously, this is not a situation any of us would ever wish to be in. But from where they were at only after accepting 'what is'..that they were lifers..that they could be at peace and possibly be on the path to awakening.

Yes - this was actually my first thought - the glaring assumption of time... If you start looking at experience at a depth that allows the possibility of premonition, then you are not looking at 'ordinary' experience... just as scientists have to change their complete model of the universe to study very small things - and then when studying on the newtonian level they shift to our 'ordinary' model of the universe. this 'predeterminant scripting' can only exist if you think whatever 'higher power' actually operates on the ordinary plane of things - for example in time and in space - and therefore in a dual (yin - yang) state... this predetermination function requires "time" to exist. You know how your dreams sometimes are premonitions for real events? - Have you ever had dreams that weren't premonitions for real events? I'm sure you had - not all your dreams are premonitions, right? So if you look from the point of view that this 'higher power' operates (as would be expected) with different rules and perhaps without a dual nature (time and space cant exist in a non-dual state) - then you could start to understand some of these things without resorting to 'scripting and predetermination' or 'complete mechanistic freedom'... you could think of this higher level as a soup of potentiality, out of which arises the basic polarity (space and time) which creates the play ground - and perhaps you can notice how in nature the interaction between this polarised energy (yin and yang) flows in five distinct rhythms or phases or patterns... At least that's the Taoist model... So when you go to sleep, you're in effect accessing this database of non-dual potentiality, and through your consciousness and physicality you create a 'dream' - which, when awake, you sometimes witness 'happening' and sometimes you dont... And in fact imo you waking moments are not so different - you and the universe is birthed constantly out of this non dual state, and you're experiencing the physical dualness of this (and when asleep you experience much more the non-dualness)... Language is a little clumsy when talking about this - just as newtonian mathematics is clumsy when explaining quantum - level theories...

About twenty years ago at the San Fransisco Renaissance Fair; a buddy and I walked around waving our arms erraticaly calling out... "WE NEED ARMS CONTROL ! HELP SUPPORT ARMS CONTROL...! That silly and fun sort of whackiness had to be done by force of choice. Can spontanious humor ever be done without choice? Silly, fun and whimsical behaviors seem to me to be acutely dictated by choice. That is what makes the god-head in us happy and allows us to live through the grusome realities that we may stumble into or have foisted upon us....with at least a semblance of free will... There certainly seems to be an element of fate in my life. Without the will to go on and meet it, there would be litle to recommend life to me, if/when things get pretty aweful. The challanges that we greet with a grin may be taken a bit more lightly, so I believe that we do have the choice as to how we act & react to the events of our lives. But who knows - What if it is all just a pre-programed sort of dream state we are in that allows us to manifest our wills in efforts to create loving kindness or any other sort of behaviors like some sort of test for the after life...There does seem to be an element like that in many of these entries... Namste-Pat

Lozen you make many good points here. It seems to me all good art just flows through the "creator"- be it music poetry, prose, painting sculpting...Most artists worth the name let it flow through them and then only adapt their skills to the needs of the work. Michaelangelo-said the figures were just in the stone and he only released them. The hard part of being an artists is the actual doing allowing one's self to be exhausted by the process and then get up and do it again until the work is done -it takes amazing amounts of will-power to keep going, open yrself up to the process and then allow yr skills to make the visions you receive come to life. I agree on the dream thing and there are many techniques that can be learned to stay aware and have some control in yr dreaming.

I am just using words of course, so they are limited and ultimately silly. But let this view sink in for a minute if you care. Not as a new philosophical position or spiritual argument. Just for fun maybe. When you look into it, the idea that there is free will is contextual. Contextual doesn't mean wrong, it just means not absolute. That something is used as an excuse to avoid responsibility is not a logical argument against it. Almost anything that works as a way to avoid responsibility is used, including the truth. The fact is, there are processes occurring in your brain that collectively create the conviction of a consolidated, executive sense of self, typically behind your eyes, making creative decisions and enjoying or suffering their outcomes. This phenomenon of self-creation is part of evolution and does have relative value. But these processes are themselves without independent nature. In other words, they dependently arise. This is called pratityasamutpada in Buddhism, arguably the only distinct doctrine to come out of Buddhism that did not have precedent in earlier religions. This view considers the western mechanical model "A (me) is the cause of B (my actions)" as naive which is precisely what earned Buddhism the critique by early western thinkers as a fatalistic philosophy. The other side of the same coin is the doctrine of sunyata, or emptiness, and is what led Buddhism to be characterized as nihilstic. I mention this out of irony for you SeanD, as our resident Buddhist scholar consistently advocating we immerse ourselves in Eastern thinking, yet you mischaracterize my view as both fatalistic and nihilistic based on a commonly shallow and early western misunderstanding of Buddhist doctrine. Choice is an abstraction that is convenient and necessary and good and beautiful in context, as is a sense of self. Without these we would not be human. Yet truly, choices happen without a chooser. There is no thinker of your thoughts. There is no one who one day wakes up from this dream. One is already awake. An incredible story is being told by no one, to no one. Or by God to God. However you want to look at it. There is no mistake here. There is nothing wrong with illusion. All great art is a lie. Nature herself is the biggest liar (thanks Taomeow). Mastering this spectrum does get you laid more often (thank Yoda) and may result in superpowers if you want them (thanks SeanD). This great illusion of choice is part of an awesome creative game being played by God, our deepest Self, for no comprehensible reason. In other words, for Love. Sean

Hello Yen Hui, I began pendulum dowsing on my own because I undestood the principles of how the mind, subconscious, and intuitive faculties operate; all of which I derived from thousands of hours of combined study and research in psychology, metaphysics, Graphology analysis, Dream Interpretation, I-Ching analysis, research and experiments, and many many other areas of study and work. By the way, my favorite I-Ching Manual is also the work of Richard Wilhelm--I-Ching Book of Changes. back in the 1970's, I also learned a method of developing a hexagram for eveluating omens. I lost that book but fortunately kept notes on the method. Focusing on pendilum dowsing studies. I read every book I could find, especially the old ones. The British have a long history in this practice and their books are very meticulous with details, especially on Radiathesia and Water Dowsing. I subscribed to The American Dowsing Association in the early 1990's solely to receive their bimonthly magazine and pickup different tips and read their articles. Professionals dowsers give a great deal of attention to certain technical aspects of what they do, and often differs from what another dowser does. This might confuse beginners. The basics, however, applies to everyone. From this point, the best thing to do is discover what works best for you by creating experiments of your own. Example: When I began, I had my wife put water in one of three cups and cover them with a plate while I sat in another room waiting for her to say, "Ready." Using my pendulum, my task was to find the one cup containing water. But even before this test, I held my pendulum over a bowl of water to guage the reaction of my pendulum along with my intuitive feeling. I conducted another test two out of three cups of water; this time salt was added to one of them. My task, lock in on the water containing salt. I was successful in both cases and was able to repeat the test. Then I moved to finding object under the cups, their size, and type material. From there, I applied my own visualization technque in relation to locating people and tapping in on their health issues, which I learned from the Silva Method in the late1970's (they are still around and their course is reasonably priced-includes remote viewing for healing work), and then applied my own pendulum method for health analysis and distance healing. One draws info from one's subconscious library of stored information. The more one understands about how the subconscious mind works, the better. If the mind has already been exposed to something, anything, there is information about it stored away there. This is why the subconscious creates so many colorful combinations of creative activity and images in dreams that we'd all love to have access to on a conscious level. The main thing to learn from pendulum books: cueing in on the thinking process behind the authors mind, and why they develop particular methods for tapping into life's energy vibrations in all areas. Hence, since everything is energy and vibration, you become the primary tool; the pendulum is only an extension of youself which reacts to the focus of your attention. Once you know the basics of using a pendulum and the commonly used charts, and trust your own intuitive process, then, create you can begin creating your own charts for whatever purpose you wish. For health analysis, make use of existing anatomy charts. I use a quartz crystal pendulum I put together for health work to determine deficiencies, health level vibration of chakras and organs, for distance healing work, or to determine if what I have done is working or not. For anything else, I use a different pendulum. Using a specific pendulum for a specific reason conditions one's subscocious to focus on a specific purpose. The books I own are no longer in publication. But you can check the list of books offered by the American Dowsing Association and The Bristish Dowsing Organization (the latter offers online courses). [b[Topics to reseach online:[/b] Radiasthesia, Pendulum as it relates to health and to Chakras, and to water dowsing--because the body is 80% water. Must read: "The Field" by L. McTaggart; "The Hidden Message of Water" by M. Emoto; "Limitless Mind" by Targ (Remote Viewing). These are still on the market. I recall seeing this title a while back, but the book store didn't carry it. It was considered a special order, and I don't generally order books unless I know what the Table of Content contains to see if there is something new for me in it or not. bacause of my background experience and training as a naturopath, oriental healing art of acupressure--which involves knowledge of acupincture meridians, and Reiki, Reflexology, herbalogy and homeopathy, I understand natural healing in relation to nature and have been fairly successful with health issues of clients, which began by healing myself over 30 years ago. More often than not, prodicing healing is simpler than orthodox methods makes it out to be. We just live in time and age in which people have been conditioned to believe that complicated methods have the best solutions. While the truth is that it only complicates things even more so down the line. Apparently you have already read The Medical I Ching. Please do relate something of what you learned from it and what it contains, and something about the author. The other link you requested about the recent case I worked on applying "distance healing," I can't find it in the Taoist Disscusion section. It was the only topic I have posted thus far. If you could find it based on "Ayudar," let me know. Update on that case, I was informed yesterday that the patient at the hospital is alive and well, and communicating when he was not expected to live. If you cannot find it either, let me know and I will see if I still have a copy of it on my system and email it to you privately. Other source of info: http://emeraldinnovations.co.uk/radionic/P..._to/how_to.html http://www.journey-to-self.com/pendulum%20...Exploration.htm http://www.byregion.net/articles-healers/Pendulum_Power.html http://www.diviningmind.com/dowsing-instru...CFQYMZQodTmrGHg http://www.lightparty.com/Health/Radionics.html Good commnicating with you Yen Hui, Ayudar

I can't decide if this is fatalistic or nihilistic. Either way it's a bit limited to think that everything could be one sided. I think we need to carefully examine this view. The real 'you' is beyond such extremes as nonexistence. We have the ability to awaken from the dream. I think this is what happens when philosophy becomes a substitute for actual experience.

There is a mystery here. Why do we need to defend our own sexes from the other at all? We are somewhat different types of beings that have to come together in order to create our own kind. The natural differences are just that - Natural and like so much on this planet - this too has been tampered with to fit our wills' ideal and dream of control. I agree that the worst cases of abuse are on a political level, where women have still to fight very hard to have any inkling of equality, and are still locked out of many political systems around the globe. I'm not sure we are keeping in perspective just how recent any political equality is anywhere for women. So as human beings women have grabbed whatever power they can in the household where they tend to rule, and create the essence of our various cultures, raising the young to become adult. The roles we play in western society are vastly different than traditional roles through out time. We are in a new paradigm, that confuses us all to some degree. The chair thing strikes me as just the opposite of what some here are saying. I see it as the male showing a total lack of self-respect and placing himself in the hands of the woman by not being gallant. It is she who then makes the first move on him to take the lead in the relationship. I think she got what she wanted as much as he and the dynamic of the situation was just irrelivant to her purposes. She literaly was good at thinking on her feet. The difference being is that when men are objectified into sexual objects they still get laid- so , cool...The value of getting laid supercededs the value of self-respect sometimes... Maybe all the time for most guys. In courtship it is natural for the man to defer to the woman, it actually shows self confidence to allow himself to be sub-serviant to her -this by his own will. Later he will typically assume the leadership role in the household for "outside" matters and the woman will rule the roost as it were. But those traditions seldom exist in the West anymore and are variable everywhere. It may be some sort of evolutionary change, that women have to become more aggressive in order to propogate the species -because men are just losing their gumption, being swamped by an ever-more distracting and confusing world of rapid changes and shifting values.

Hello Sean, Since you were first to greet me at the Lobby as a new member, I thought it appropiate to respond to one of your posts first. I locked into this 333 business because you are not alone in this phenomena. For years, both my wife and I have been encountering the same thing. I often wake up in the night and it is 3:33 am, I look over at my computer clock--car clock, and bank clock, and it's that time. I will see license plates of cars I stop behind with this numer. One time, I stopped at a light and a pizza delivery vehicle stopped beside me and it's first three digits were 3:33. The most informative reply I received took place in a dream back in the 1980's. In this experience, I met a wise man and asked him what 333 signified. His reply, "It means--Ultimate." This always stuck with me. When I began learning numbers and vibrations, I learned that scientifically all things in our physical known universe can be explained by 9 (333). I did a numerolical cahrt on the name of Jesus Christ (An old Egyptian Method taught to me by the Brotherhood of Light, used to determine vibrations and what it means), and the name came to 9 (333). When I through in the word "Cross," the vibration changed to 10, which meant "Completion" and made total sense, because it was where he completed his mission. The meaning, however, "Meant change of Cycle" as a 10. Therefore, I can only assume that 333, in its total (9), indicates that this world is currently undergoing a process of change that will ultimatelu bring about a major "Change of Cycle" affecting the entire world. Now why is it that many of us are seeing this so often while others are not. My best guess is that those who are spiritually sensitive are automatically attuned to the changes but may not know that it has a numerical vibration value. Once known, however, and correlated with what is occurring around us and in us, one can see that it all falls in place. Something out there wants us to prepare for the coming changes. Regards, Ayudar

Often times adepts adopt various release valves for invaluable forms of communication/communion. It is not uncommon to find students of the various schools "acting out" in the form of martial or esoteric art because of the boundary provided by being "a student of the Art". It's important not to let emotional outlets get in the way of meditation. Emotions are closely related to the senses. Mental fixation / attachment on the outcome of any sensory engagement prevents the state of Sung from manifesting. As the mind so shall be the body. What pace are you sinking? Engage, to neutralize and harmonize or cremate and be reborn. Personal boundaries defined is really asside ones self. Yes it's ego even to embody the perceptual proportions limit of ma; but its an ever widening event horizon cresting wave 100th monkey consciousness bringing barricades down around ideas claims that drown out dreams. Every time you crest and break it open and close it, leap high or stumble and fall the gathering tides wash the days destiny from your back. The circulation is the days, the water wheels pump, non-action & actions interactions w/ nonesense, move without moving, be still with movement, balance & store/absorb. Tell it to another and gloat it, show it to another and lose it, only to find it on a journey to another land. Sow it and to Save it for later generations of yourself. We need about 300 years to live enough to get it, you need about 300 days to forget it, you need about 300 ways to physically express it, though the days way might say otherwise unworldly wisdom slips in sight unseen, seeming to be the seams of what we really dream as real. Yet emotional engagement is not attachment. Transfiguring the arrangement isnt outside the engagement. Like Bruce Lee said so nicely "Emotional Content; Not Anger!" Intensity of movement is not violence. Responses to Violence need be Precise, no need for violence in kind. Violence exists in a dimension outside of Conscious Movement. The ability to remain clear minded when single pointed consiousness is triggered spontaneously ensures a safe passage friends. Dont look into the water Frodo! Michi. Practice to fuse split mindedness. What is practice in something like Chan? Something like Taoism? Break for a story: 'Of course, of course' said the unicorn, with good humor. It is a convention to call it "love". What word would you prefer?' "Unicity", said the owl, 'not accurate - no word could be, in relativtity -- but that at least does not confuse the issue.' 'Certainly' said the unicorn, 'if you prefer "God is Unicity". 'I have no preferences' replied the owl 'but unicity makes sense at least.' Indeed some sacred Scripture did say "The only proof of His existance is Union with Him" the unicorn agreed. 'An Upanishad, if I am not mistaken?' the owl suggested. 'No doubt, no doubt,' said the unicorn, 'or as a Christan sage put it "God is nearer to me than I am to myself". 'I am indeed,' the owl agreed. ------ To guide in act and action, word and deed, are the signs. The watercourse way never misleads, although subtle, she mysteriously guides her pilgrims progress. The dragons tail whiping where it will. Better to be in Form then to flail aimlessly at Formless internet airespace. Spectrum