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Isn't it strange? Did one dream visit a place, or remembered the future? or saw things through someone else's awareness? I hope researchers are doing some research into this. I'm conducting my own research in this in some way and try to notice omens and synchronicities more now. And try to act more on hunches. I'm getting more and more amazed by the human experience I am experiencing like my eyes opened in a certain way and although everything is basically the same, it starts to look different.

You are in that case not only no different than they are, you are actually identical to them in your practice of your strict views on life. Those strict identities that are defensive and argue for their own limitations such as you are doing aswell, could benefit allot from easing up on themselves. Because if you wanna be enlightened, simply lighten up on yourself. You can demand yourself to carry the weight of the world on your shoulders and at the same time think that you can ever be of even the slightest benefit to anyone in the whole universe. Not even yourself is allowed to benefit from yourself, by your argueing for your own limitations. So if you're not allowing yourself to simply be yourself, in the natural way that you were created, which means, the person who you are which has not been designed to solve the problems of this world, except the problems which you only create for yourself of arrogance and ignorance. If you are trying to give rise to the sun, you will always feel tired from working yourself to oblivion all night long, for absolutely no other reason than accomplishing your own unnecessary exhaustion, that only serves to limit you and drain the people around you who then also have to now help you recover from your own stupidity, as you are still arrogantly holding on to your ego that thinks you are a hero and saving people, when in reality you are a perpetual and chronic victim of your own arrogance and ignorance. I know you would like to blame other people for who you have become. But that doesn't change who you now are. Except, it causes you to realize that who you now are, is not fully allowing yourself to he who it is you really actually are, or want to be at the very least. If you can even remember who you are. God knows how long you've been asleep in this never ending dream of arrogance and ignorance. You might aswell, start going back to elementary school and relearn life. Years of education. And you'd most likely still get even more stupid in the process. Untill you begin to realize, that no one cares. And they are kind to you anyway. So maybe you will realize that you can be kind aswell. Regardless of who someone else is. And in so doing you begin to receive actual true value into that dense head of yours. To learn what actually matters in life. And stop being so arrogant, maybe for the first time ever in your life. But that's up to you. You can still choose to limit yourself. Untill you see the pattern of this take shape over several years, and then desire to see a different pattern, that is more free and more in alignment with your actual true nature. And eventually, you can't blame anyone but yourself. No matter how much you want to. Because blaming others will always continue your trajectory into more self limitation, even to the degree of being limitted to further limit yourself. Thus, it makes absolutely zero difference to all of creation, what you decide to choose for yourself. That is not cruel. That is freedom. And you can never destroy it, except for yourself. I know it sucks. But you cannot get sick enough to make other people better. You just have to let all of that go. And accept the natural well being. That is what it means to not be arrogant. To accept what you deserve, because you are not different from anyone else in that you deserve to naturally abbundant well being of life. No matter who you are or where you are or what you are. Isn't that easy? To acknowledge this ease is wisdom and knowledge. To lighten up on yourself is enlightenment. And you will always be free to choose it and be free to deserve it unconditionally. No matter how many years you practice the strict believe that says otherwise. And so stop caring so much about other people business. You came here to live your own unique you life that you are forever blessed to be and live now and be now. Who you naturally easily and effortlessly are as a good feeling free nature of who it is you have always actually been.

There is no reality to the dream world, the people we meet in the dream don't exist and are just projections of the local mind. When our dream ends, the existence of everyone one and the dream world itself vanishes. But the waking state is different. There is subjective reality and there are others ( relatively) in the waking state. This is the difference I see and this difference is important in my understanding.

As far as lucid dreams go, that is kind of a long story. I did not intend to have lucid dreams, and at this time, i feel that most folks who have a daily long term meditation practice will have the same kind of lucid dreams. nothing special. Real and unreal are only thoughts, not good, not bad. What IS, this suchness, is beyond our logical understanding, from what I have seen so far. When we have dreams that are not lucid, we believe that we are living in the real world at that time, then we wake up and either laugh or cry because the dream is over. This life for me, is now much like a lucid dream. Or what I call a semi-lucid dream, where I play the story of the dream, until it starts to go a direction I do not wish it to go, then I either change it , or start over. For me, this so called real life is like this. I love it, I love playing the part, and do not see it as "unreal" or real. for me it is all one thing. hard to explain. One of the stories I tell about lucid dreams, is one I had a few months or years ago, (time is weird) , where I had the classic dream that i was naked in a room full of people. and like this common dream, I was the only one who knew I had no clothes on. So knowing it was a dream, i thought. "this is a very common archetype dream, that most folks have, so I am going to shake things up a bit:".......... So I stood there buck naked and started to yell at everyone, "Hay, Look at me, I am standing here completely naked"... everyone ignored me except one man, who started to laugh at me. I walked up to him and stuck my hand into his chest, and he dissolved into a kind of brown smoke. the very second I did that, I felt that I did something very wrong...... Now I knew that this was a dream, and I thought that i was playing, but the second I took that "life", I felt the same way I did when I had to take other lives in this "real" world. have not come to terms with this, but know it was something more than "just a dream".. so not real, not unreal. that is as close as i can get to explaining.

To me the distinction is far less solid. Sleeping dream is a projection of local body/mind. Waking dream is a projection of non-local body/mind or absolute body/mind. I don't see one as necessarily more complicated than the other. It's just that the non-local projection of the body/mind it's much more difficult to see as illusory because we feel we are it, just as we feel we are it while actively dreaming during sleep. When we are able to readily wake up in the dream, or in a dreamless sleep state, and maintain that awareness in dream or sleep in a stable fashion, it has a profound effect on how "real" it feels both during the dream and during waking.

To me, there is a clear distinction between the dream state and waking state. One is just a projection of local body/mind. The other is much more complicated and can be termed as a collective projection or virtual reality.

I had a very vivid dream, riding motorcycle along a road, pine forest either side, then came to a cross road, the forest was still continuing up to the cross road, other side on the corner was a park and in the park was a small convoy of light army vehicles, some soldiers were standing around chatting and drinking tea, or coffee, they had a small fire going on the BBQ there on the opposite corner was a small store. Insignificant ... but curious in its detail and vividness. A few weeks later, I a am on my motorcycle trying to find a small town in Queensland, I must have missed a turn in my directions as I kept going and going and didnt spot the described landmarks, I had been riding for ages through a pine forest and decided to turn around and go back. There was a cross road sign ahead, so I continued to there ..... and .....t he forest was still continuing up to the cross road, other side on the corner was a park and in the park was a small convoy of light army vehicles, some soldiers were standing around chatting and drinking tea, or coffee, they had a small fire going on the BBQ there on the opposite corner was a small store...,WTF! I looked around and saw a sign 'Ravensholme' , and I had recently accepted raven as a totem (due to certain occurrences) and had one tattooed on my left arm. I havent a clue about the significance of this. I guess one could 'dream visit' a site , but the time factor ( the army convoy) really stumped me . A few times I have had dreams about a house or events in a certain house ..... seen the street in a dream, found the street in real life- but no such house in it . ?

So someone's in pain, and they're dying. And you say to them "Wake up! Don't die!" And they say "Ughhh, let me die already..." You can see how much relief there is in death, of letting go of that outdated stuff that no longer works so well. And accepting the new, fresh body, fully fresh and new and pure, new perspective now fully enjoying all of the benefit that your previous life has caused you to ask! It's huge relief. It's an experience of "FINALLY! THIS IS WHAT I WANT YES NOW I KNOW EVERYTHING! Now I know the truth of all that I have ever asked for, the answer is now finally clear within me, in my fully non resistant fully consciously expanded full blown non-physical awareness of all the good that is me and everyone. Fully capable now of purely focusing my energy and awareness on all the answers of all that life has caused me to ask" It's not heavy. It's lovely. Death is the complete opposite of heavy. It's completely feeling infinitely light and free and expanded full awareness of all that you truely have been and are. Full relief. The answer to all of your questions. But also understand that it's no more than that either. So people can allow all of that even in their physical body, if they let go of all the outdated no longer relevant ideas and perspectives while in their body that is what holds them back from fully living their life as they intended before they came here, and letting go of the resistance that causes the strain and stress. To fully enjoy all the benefit of all the new things. And it happens when you fully flow with all the life that is who it is you truely are at the core of your being that is always becoming more and better and newer and more now. And then instantly go here and now where all of that is all that you truely are fully expressed in this way and that way, walking the path of your passion here and there. Then that small paths become bigger paths and expands your excitement in life. And you then become more capable of flowing more freely with the ever expanding natural easy path of unfoldment of your ever excitement. Your essence doesn't go some place else. It's all here. Your interest in this here and now world and life and reality doesn't go away. Everyone is here, dead or alive. All part of the evolution of this leading edge time space reality. And the amazing physical nature of it that we can enjoy in so many ways. And bringing constantly into full realization all of our dreams in ever expanding ways. As every generation benefits the new from the asking of the old. And you are that new generation. That has asked for more freedom and receives it. It's not someone else that's gonna get your stuff that you truely want. It's you you and YOU! And it is never lost, because only our mind can forget, but that is why we luckily have a soul, that holds all of the best that it knows for us, eternally, ever expandingly. You are never alone in this. We're all in the same boat. And we all expand our dreams together. His dream joins my dream and we co-create in very similar dreams on this amazing stable platform of exploring all these different dreams into creation, on this platform ever abbounding well-being capable of supporting endless of souls to live their fullest most joyous life possible, in full purpose for the joy of all the individuals here. Does that come to an end when we die? No. Do you let go of the old perspective? No, you take the BEST of your old perspective into the new movement of the new life that will then be the best life you have ever lived before, that is why it feels so reliefing to let all of that old stuff go and enter the complete new of the now. As it always is that. People don't dig holes into hell, or build time machines to go to the past, we are not de-evolving into less. That is completely illogical. If you're not doing it, no one else really wants it either. If you're not interested in it, no one else really is interested in it either. Cause we all came here with similar intention, desire for growth, but mostly joy of the journey, and yet we came with different enough intention to experience completely different lifes of infinite variety of all that joy can truely be and completely free to do so, as the planet is fully capable of supporting all of it. And you don't have to worry about resource running dry. Cause the cake grows by the ammount you take from it. That is how energy works. If you truely enjoy cake, your passion for cake allows it to become more and more cake, forever! You don't have to worry about how the cake will come, that is for people who have a passion to make cake. if you enjoy cake more then you will also see more people who make cake more. New technologies are constantly rising to improve everything for that is also something that keeps expanding from the asking of so many who love all of that ever more effective and efficient technology. That then can become more like nature, infinitely slip streamed, super conductive, pure, high frequency technology, very inter connected like nature. Very sensitive technology, very natural. Very good. And same with all the communities and new ways of living and building communities. All becoming better. Ongoingly. You don't have to do anything but enjoy your life. As you're completely free to do so. Ever more so. And you certainly don't have to wait untill you die.

I woulden't be completely confident about that. Many say cats are able to focus non-physically. Dolphins dream while being awake. Humans are thought to be able to do this aswell. If one is very in tune with their non-physical aspect of nature.

Oh yes experiences never stopped. Contact I do not know hey I was happened in 2009 but my memory was wiped until 2014 so what else do I not remember? But there are things I have experienced that are normal such as lucid dream, paralytic dream, confuso honoric dream and dream like that you know. They come with really small drones that move really really fast and they are visible like only a fraction seconds or something I feel they scan my head and mind because my eyes have some sort of ''tilt'' . But the one that I am latelly is I think cosmic preparation to transformation. Before it was all about being played in my mind and over 3 or 4 years I remember what happened in 2009 but latelly. It is something else but I think I wrotte it in another thread. I feel all electric like if every atoms of my body where vibrating and trying to reorganise or change shape. I feel all electric and I feel like I can transform into something else but something is blocking my consciousness of being something else than human so I just stay stuck in this form. I feel like my bones are plasticine and will reform differently. That is what I am usually experiencing lately but in the past years it was all about revealing memories about the abduction meeting. Many people had influence in their mind to have alien sort of knowledge and on my side it was about time travel and manipulation. But I have a thread named ''Cosmic being'' in wich we can talk more about what I think the cosmic familly does to me. But for an official contact or meeting? Nope! I had one in 2009 and I told them I was going off for 10 consciousness years so I won't have an other official meeting until fall 2019.

it is different, because not all ghosts are hungry ghosts. The buddhist in the story was an immortal ghost, which is a tremendous achievement, one the ordinary people can only dream of.

I don't know, I'm a newbie so it's better if I shut the fuck up but there are lots of meditation involving visualization, I believe anything that will use imagination will improve and wire the inner sight (brain sight) and will help you, well, see other other places, I've read about practicing mentally projecting outside the body with all senses, like what goes on in a dream

Welcome Xeno! Did this experience happen as a lucid dream, or like an out of body real experience or as a vision during meditation?

Just testing out one of those crazy, far-fetched and unanswerable questions, as our brains so love doing. Do you think it is possible for God to become a Self-Aware autonomous entity within you? For a moment while meditating, I felt like I “retracted” into myself and remembered who I was. I then spoke to myself (in my own voice, in my own mind). The voice said (I said) “Hey, this is God. This is one of those rare moments that I’m aware of myself as God, as I remember that I chose to incarnate through you, this being. Hehe. Anyway, back to being you!” ..and Zoop, and it was over. And there I was, thinking I had another one of those useless far-out moments. Then I thought, damn, here’s the thing. The truth is that this is actually pretty plausible (that I am God, that we all are). We are all in a collective hallucination of pretending that we are not God. The most important thing in our modern day culture is that people take themselves as absolutely seriously as they can in their separate identities. While general quality of life for all has gone up, it seem to be more entrenched in maya (illusion) than ever. People feel compelled to destroy each others lives over words and labels. If we could all see ourselves as God, there would be no more wars. However, the kind of shift in thinking is so radical, even if it is a closer approximation to reality than our normal, every day waking egos. I don’t think we would stop taking ourselves seriously if we all knew this. Seriousness has it’s place, however, we wouldn’t take taking things seriously so seriously. It is thought that this is how people used to live in India a long time ago, as well as how people in tribal cultures still live. Animals see reality more clearly than humans. They don't have all of these competitive and hierarchical maps in their mind that makes them compulsively re-arrange their entire lives, and feeling neurotic because the world does not comply to the demands of their imagined world. Animals don't have any problems. They are living in just one world. Us, we live in two worlds at once, the real world and the imagined world. Side thought: we are addicted to our identities, regardless of what is going on in our life, good or bad. We do not want to let go of our identity, because there is always a pleasure aspect to it. For instance, I get happy and giddy at the thought that “I am me”. I like how my body feels. I wouldn’t want to be suddenly torn into a billion pieces and returned to the collective energy field. I wouldn’t mind it, but I’m saying that i want to enjoy this thing here too while I’m here. That’s what God said, he said man, I just want to enjoy this thing while I’m there, and have a great old time. If I can’t do that, that’s fine too. Either way, it’ll be great when I wake up. The question is, how many times do you need to wake up? Also, is there a dream that God himself must wake up from? Thank you for taking the time to read. I love you and have an amazing day, if you can. If not, that’s okay too, you are still loved.

I am always surprised how open, liberating yet normal meditation is. It is simple. Easy. Constantly reachable, on and off the cushion. It gives life a new dimension. One that is often very raw as one awakes from the dream that things are solid and once again realises the fragility of existence. Well enough of my faux "expertise". Just... you are right. Thx for sharing.

So you don't like me referencing a couple philosophy professors published in a peer-reviewed journal, stating that the square root of 2 was never proven? haha. They are not alone in that position. Bertrand Russell stating that "real numbers are a convenient fiction." I corresponded with math professor Luigi Borzacchini about this in 2001 - after I discovered his discussion of the music theory connection on a math forum. So I had this dream of a music-math equation and mailed it to Italy - after I scribbled it down upon waking. He responded that yes my math was good but I had no historical proof that it was used that way. Math professor Joe Mazur though encouraged me to dig deeper after I had mentioned David Fowler's work in this area. Sure enough Fowler admits he thinks music theory would provide the missing secret of how continued proportions of numbers were converted to geometric magnitudes. And Professor Borzacchini agrees with Russell that actually the "one to one correspondence" between geometry and number has never been proven - and so the "continuum" that people just accept in high school math is actually also "not proven" as Professor Borzacchini explains. Also he states that this secret music theory origin of Western symmetric math is a "secret of the sect" that got covered up in a way that is "really astonishing" and "shocking." He calls this secret music origin of Western math a "deep pre-established disharmony" that is the "guiding evolutive principle" of Western science! So he's not alone in this - I discovered, after my master's thesis was done on music theory and philosophy of science, I then discovered this Actual Matrix Plan based on the "music logarithmic spiral." And that term was coined by Esther Watson Tipple, the daughter of one of the inventors of the telephone. And then Esther Watson Tipple kept researching this issue - and she discovered the secret of noncommutative phase logic of music theory. She sent this secret to Einstein in a letter. Because Einstein considered the "music logarithmic spiral" philosophy to be the best example of a unified field theory to date. Esther Watson Tipple writes to Einstein on Pythagorean harmonics and Cosmic Nature Dear Dr. Einstein So it's been proven that Newton actually derived his theory of gravity directly from what he thought was Pythagorean harmonics as the inverse square law. But in fact it was not real Pythagorean harmonics, rather it was the wrong math from Archytas and Plato. So then Einstein just picked up on the error of Newton and extended it to its logical conclusion. Guide to the Oliver Reiser Papers, 1930-1974 UA.90.F10 | Digital Pitt https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt:UA-PPiU-ua90f10/viewer His other notable correspondents included Albert Einstein, Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac ... Davies, Blodwen; Reiser, Oliver Leslie, 1895-1974; Tipple, Esther Watson, ... https://www.nytimes.com/1974/06/07/archives/oliver-l-reiser-78-philosopher-dead.html Dr. Reiser's scholarship in the philosophy of religion and in, metaphysical and valuational aspects of science were acknowledged internationally. His books include “The Integration of Human. Knowledge” (1958) and “Cosmic Humanism” (1966). Of another book, “World Philosophy: A Search for Synthesis” (1948), Albert Einstein said:

Hi all ( this is supposed to be posted on the welcome page and I am very sorry if it is not- This was the only link I could find) I'm new to forums and things of this nature so please excuse any "noob" mistakes So......, I would describe myself as extremely lost. I started studying taoism ravenously 2 years ago snd eventuslly ended up learning a few things from the universal healing dao, but I couldn't go to any lectures or but products due to age issues and whatnot. And so with a lack of resources and the fact that I was finding more and more holes in the system with every passing day I eventually gave up and left taoism behind. Or so i thought. In truth, tao/daoism has always lingered at the back of my mind and I have never truly escaped from the desire to learn more and practise. Trying to find answers on the internet however has proved to be difficult with so many loosing opinions, no real "facts" and a heck of alot of liars. So really it doesn't make much sense that I could end up at a forum as the whole point is to discuss and express opinions but I feel as if this is a place where i can form my own views In a less chsotic space and with the help of knowlegable people. As a heads up a lot of my questions will probably be to do with neidan (Yes I like to dream big) and sexual practices (please be mature) as they are the things I am most interested in currently and because they are the things I am able to find the least amount of information on (and a f*ck ton of contradictions) Ps.(can I swear here?🤨🤔 it's probably a stupid question but oh well....)

Love isn't the most powerful force in the universe and it's not the fundamental nature of your mind. This is just ignorance handed down from one generation to the next. But love is the most pleasurable experience that - as a human- you can have. And it's cultivated in many spiritual paths because it has a profound psychological effect. When people say that they cultivate the central channel, they basically visualize rainbows, unicorns and shit running along the spine, in the spine, in front of the spine, etc... When a tactile sensation kicks in, they stick to that and they proceed from there. This is basically what you do in neigong, qigong, etc. You cultivate tactile sensations and dream of becoming immortal, or at least more healthy. In cultivating the heart field aka the loving heart, the tactile approach could - at most- be a support for the first meditation session because the bulk of the work is psychological and it's done in the realm of emotions. For example, you may visualize someone you love until the emotion appears in your consciousness and you proceed from there (Guru yoga). Now that you know what it is, it's much easier to understand why Damo Mitchel made such a distinction.

Hello all, I used to post here regularly, back in 2010-11. I'm happy to see so many familiar cool bums still around, and wanted to say hello. I left here in order to make time to create a science-of-consciousness documentary, collaborating with my neuropsych prof dad. I've interviewed nearly 50 top philosophers and neuroscientists in the field, and I've even published my own peer-reviewed cognitive science paper, an anatomical theory of consciousness. All of that is wonderful, but I'm far from done with my doc. I'm turning 50 in a few weeks, and am happy to report that I'm still break-dancing weekly, as well as my all my other dance events. My life-long bad back is pretty much completely healed, and I'm in my best physical health of my adult life. Those are the headline good news. But it's been more complex, as well. I've had my most satisfying romance during this time, but also my most heart-breaking loneliness, when it didn't work out. I'm happy with how much I've learned about brain function, but I still haven't learned how to get most people in the consciousness field (or the press) to read my theory paper. I think I've embraced all of my life, including the painful feelings, more than ever before, but that doesn't mean it's delivered me to some utopian place, where I'm always joyful, no matter the circumstances. My job and life are good, but I also struggle with the dissatisfaction of not yet accomplishing my dream (the doc). In other words, I'm still on my path, not quite the path that I imagined back in my Bum days, but still searching, still exploring. There's a lot more I can say about the last 7 years, and my theory of consciousness, but I wanted to keep this OP short, say hello, and say more only if people are curious. To those I knew, like Steve F., Marblehead, thelerner, Manitou/Barb, Kate/Birch, Scott/Blasto, Stigweard, Dawei, Apech, 3bob, Everything, et al, I'd love to hear what you've been up to. Much love.

I know its also just a story to me. And a dream. But I do see giants in nature. Elephants and Whales. Oh and gorillas are my favorite

please don't mind my interjection but the Historic Buddha also made a description as being the, "Wonder of wonders..." thus superceding Hamlet's line of speculation: "To be, or not to be, that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles And by opposing end them. To die—to sleep, No more; and by a sleep to say we end The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks That flesh is heir to: 'tis a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep; To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there's the rub:

it's a good question. Have you ever heard the raise, "Likes to get a rise out of someone?" So certain people like to get other people anger or a "rise out of them" - so that the person can the "suck up" the anger of that other person. So the anger is yang qi but they are using their "yin qi" to suck it up. That is a lower level of what you are talking about. Now on a higher level, the yin qi is literally a black hole. The irony of a black hole is that actually reality, as now defined by Western science, is based in quantum physics due to "time-frequency uncertainty" aka wave-particle duality. So what this means is that as a particle speeds up then its external frequency is actually going up as energy defined by the speed of light. So normally in classical physics we think of momentum as speed plus mass but in the quantum realm it was proven the momentum is inverse to the mass as wavelength (defining time as spatial distance externally). As John Chang states, a person can store up yin qi only as much as they have yang qi built up internally based on celibacy. This is why real qigong masters are so rare since celibacy requires controlling the dream state. So then waking reality becomes another dream state while the "real" truth is beyond the dream state as a literal black hole spacetime vortex. So then based on quantum physics again - the internal frequency goes up as a particle goes into a black hole but the external time SLOWS DOWN. So externally a person or in this case, a "bullet" - never actually makes contact with the black hole or "yin qi" as gravity. So this is called relativistic quantum physics because you have two times - one from the future which is superluminal as the 5th dimension. This is then what "guides" the bullet - and so that time gets shorter and shorter as the internal frequency of the bullet gets bigger and bigger. Then the relativistic external time gets bigger and bigger - meaning slows down as a red shift (which is another way of saying Yin Qi). Then the frequency of the bullet (again based on light as relativistic invariance speed) goes down - as the red shift. So that is what the qigong master experiences since John Chang is literally "embodying the Emptiness" - through his lower tan t'ien and central channel. For us "normal" people we see the bullet speed up - but John chang experiences the opposite - he sees external time slows down.

good metaphor. when my thinking mind is very silent during sitting meditation, i have seen that I am still dreaming. dreaming is not just done in sleep, but 24/7. it is just that our waking thinking mind is outshining the dream mind, (not that there is two minds, it is just one thing, IMO). Kind of like lighting a candle in the dark, and seeing it a long way off, compared to lighting a candle during the day with the sun shining. for me, the thinking part of mind is like the sun shining on the candle which would still be giving off light, only not noticed during with the sun shining. The crazy part of this is that my dreams are no longer negative. have not had a nightmare in decades. so still searching as to the nature of negative thoughts. a work in progress. thanks for the comment

I managed to force lucid dreaming a couple of times in my twenties, very trippy. I decided not to pursue that practice as I figured it could lead to confusion as to what's real and what's a dream i.e. Madness! I also didn't think it was of use to me.

I came across this book Daoist Magical Transformation Skills: Dream Magic, Shape-Shifting, Soul Travel, and Sex Magic written by Professor Jerry Alan Johnson, online, while searching for information on something else, the goldfish in neidan actually, and if anyone knows anything about these neidan goldfish that would be great (there’s nothing much online), but in the meantime I thought that a lot of people on this site might be interested in the information in JAJ’s book. It covers a lot of topics and gives the Daoist version of a lot of the topics discussed on this site, including 'three types of psychic ability', walking through walls (one of my favourite sections), healing, projecting, etc etc.