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Hey guys thx for the replays , Beyonder , no problem , I understand completely . LaoZiDao, I went to the link , thanks for including that . When I got to the the guys answer where he referred to humans as " souls " I had to leave the page . It's not a bad thing . I used to be convinced of that too. And before that I didn't even know anything about spirituality . Earlier this year , I had the experience to be one with all spiritual life in existence. It was amazing . It was then that I realized there's only one life , one soul, one spiritual being for all life forms , not separate would for each life form . If someone were to tell me this prior to this year I would have said oh really .? Ha what a goof ball. I know I'm a spiritual being key word being the letter A , and you are a spiritual being as well. We are separate beings just like we have separate bodies. There was no doubt no question . Just like prior to 1982 when I had a full blown out of body awareness experience. It was like wow, I'm not my body and my thoughts and spiritual being can leave the body and return to it. Like when the body dies so to speak . My son got hit by a car when he was 5 and he told me he left his body too when it happened. Fortunately he was ok and just had a couple bruises. But last Feb I went out of body and rejoined all life as in one with all life . Spiritually . Life as I call it is a spiritual being , just one spiritual being for all life forms everywhere. It's just another progression in my spiritual awareness. First no spirit just body , then latter it became spirits and body's and finally one spirit for all body's. What's next ? I wish I could tell you . when i know i will tell you . Here's a little analogy. When a person walks into a room and it's dark , they turn the lights on to see. So they assume that in the beginning of creation , it was all dark and THEN there was light. Mainly because they are so used to living in the physical universe and have very little knowing of the spiritual aspects of life . So like the guy who , like me at one time , has and had the understanding that each body has a individual soul, mainly because he is so used to living in the physical universe with individual bodys. You'll see when your body dies, you'll just rejoin so to speak with all life again and that's that. It's the way it's always been and will always be . When we dream and then wake up from the dream completely , can you go back to the dream you were just having? Life outside the physical universe is no different. When we die , or our body's die , can we go back and live with the same body again? Like the dream , we can go back if we don't wake up all the way but of we do then no. Our body's are the same way . Once we die completely , no going back . Some how or another , I went all the way "dead" but my body didn't die and I came back from being one with all life as if I died completely . I was doing my meditative exercise and looked at the self and others dual package and colapsed it completly . When i did , spiritual others vanished and by the law of duality there must be two poles for a thing to exist in this universe. POOOOF ! i was back to being just self and no other or in other words self and all others too. It has been thee most amazing spiritual experience to date and at the top of the top for me . The voodoo religion for example in convinced that there are three body's for each soul. I don't expect anyone to just take my word for it. True reality must be experienced , not instructed. Mine included. When i read about the three body concept I was like..... oh come on . Thats horse radish nonsence. Well now in hindsite they are much closer to my reality than most others Ive heard to talked to . my experience, my reality is one soul for all life forms . The 1 is very self aware too . All knowing and all the yang attributes to the fullest degree and the fullest sence of the words. Absolute in every posible way with limitless ability and no exceptions. Thats life in the spiritual form. Im in no way refering to life forms . Those are physical forms created by life . Spiritual life has no creation . it wasnt created , its always been and will always be . Awareness has levels. The above is the top of the top in awareness level. Thats not my awarness as i write this post but the awareness can be reachived by me when i need it to . I keep in my back pocket so to speak and pull it out when the going gets tuff. im here now , ( and i know this sounds spiritually narcissistic ) but im here to have conversations with ant like life forms and the best way to do that is to become an ant. Only the ants are human. Please dont take this the wrong way . Im a human too . Have you ever tried communicating with an ant ? good luck with that . If you stomp on their ant hill or nest, youll have communicated with them as youll notice they are moving allot faster in a panic to survive. Its like the admiral sounded general quaters on a battle ship. Im in the same boat now with humanity and i know stompimg is not the best way to comunicate from my experience. In many ways its like talking to myself. Or playing a game of ping pong by myself. Theres only me and others who are also really me . Insane? not to me but to others? oh very insane. So be it . I know what I know . I knd of view others who dont know what I know as the insane ones but I dont dislike anyone. I pose my questions in a retorical way yes. Its just a way to start a conversation . No harm really. Sanity ( yang ) and insanity ( yin ) are just two poles of the same item . Life can choose which side it prefers at any given time. Then be on it . Or sit nicly between the two poles like it can and does with any other pole it choses. " It " being life, the creator of all things. Read all my posts and threads. There arnt that many . When you do youll get a much better understanding of who I am and why im here . Or not, its your choice. I can show you a way to becoming one with all life but if youre not interested or consider me a lunatic or both then thats fine too This is why i say I totally understand. Because I do .

I awoke in the middle of the night from finishing this dream and jotted down a quick version of it, in the morning I filled it out ; THE EGYPTIAN This morning I awoke to a beautiful day.‭ ‬I poured a pitcher of water over my head and put on a clean white robe.‭ ‬My sleeping wife looked so at peace I left her and went down to the river to greet the dawn.‭ ‬I assumed the position of adoration and held my palms up to feel the Sun's rays and commenced the‭ '‬Adoration of Ra‭' ‬as the Sun came over the horizon.‭ ‬The ripples on the water glittered‭ ‬red and gold and‭ ‬the day started to come alive.‭ ‬A flock of geese crossed the river high in the sky,‭ ‬a fish jumped and splashed in the water and I,‭ ‬now in ecstasy,‭ ‬knew I was alive inside the body of God. I returned to my house and went inside and greeted my wife,‭ ‬she looked exceptionally beautiful this morning.‭ ‬We ate together,‭ ‬I looked into her eyes and kissed her and went out to plough the fields. Later I came back to rest from the heat of the day.‭ ‬My wife had prepared raisin cakes and barley beer.‭ ‬I ate and drank and then,‭ ‬looking at her,‭ ‬became filled with passion but she held her palm against my heart,‭ ‬gently holding me back and with the other hand offered me the plate of raisin cakes and said,‭ "‬Last night I had a dream,‭ ‬please take these cakes and offer them in the temple.‭" ‬I looked at her,‭ ‬not understanding,‭ ‬but saw the love was still in her eyes,‭ ‬so I obeyed. I went to the temple and thought to offer the cakes to Ra but on my way to his shrine I noticed an alcove on the side and within stood a Goddess I have never seen before.‭ ‬I could not identify her,‭ ‬so I went through the temple until I found a priest and asked him,‭ "‬Who is that Goddess in the side alcove of this temple‭?" ‬he looked at me strangely and replied,‭ "There is no side alcove in this temple.‭" Thanking him,‭ ‬and hoping that he would soon recover from whatever madness had afflicted him I went back and made my offering to the strange but somehow familiar Goddess. Later that night I made love to my wife.‭ ‬Something happened.‭ ‬We have never joined like that before.‭ ‬She was like a new person and my heart was aflame with passion.‭ ‬We thrashed and convulsed in a dark pool of energy whose surface rippled and snaked up in tendrils of darkness and shook and splashed out surrounding us and out of the darkness condensed tiny points of light with the brightness and colours of the gems in Pharaoh’s crown.‭ ‬They sprinkled down upon us and melted into us . Afterwards my wife lay back seductive,‭ ‬deliciously,‭ ‬yet modestly and I have never seen such a beautiful sight in my life‭ ‬-‭ ‬it healed my eyes.‭ ‬She looked somehow different,‭ ‬yet familiar,‭ ‬it was as if her face had changed,‭ ‬but it was still her face.‭ ‬And then I knew‭! ‬She had the face of the Goddess in the temple‭! The next morning,‭ ‬again she slept peacefully,‭ ‬not wanting to disturb her I went to the river to adore Ra in his rising.‭ ‬I picked a blue lotus flower and rushed to the temple to offer it to the Goddess. When I arrived I could not find the alcove or the statue.‭ ‬I approached another priest and asked him about it.‭ "Foolish old man,‭" ‬he replied,‭ "‬I do not‭ ‬know of any temple around here like that or any such Goddess‭ ‬-‭ ‬go back to your wife.‭" So I did,‭ ‬taking her the lotus,‭ ‬but on the way home I saw a neighbour, ‭"‬Good news‭!‬,‭" ‬he called to me and came over.‭ "‬As you know,‭" ‬he said,‭ "‬my wife and I crave for a child and we could never have one,‭ ‬but this very morning the doctor told her she is with child.‭" I saw another elderly neighbour and noticed he had lost his limp.‭ ‬All the sunflowers in the field had opened.‭ ‬Another neighbour‭ ‬-‭ ‬cranky,‭ ‬old Ahmose‭ ‬-‭ ‬was sharing‭ ‬his breakfast with a stray dog. I entered my house and gave the lotus to my wife,‭ ‬kissing her on the cheek.‭ ‬She took it and smiled and looked deep into my eyes and said,‭ "‬Something wonderful has happened.‭" "I know.‭" ‬I told her. ( a fair amount of my short story writing is from dreams ... not normal dreams , they are 'story dreams' . )

I don't think it invalidates life experience. It is all part of the process. Because we say "nothing is needed to be done", doesn't mean nothing happens...this is why it is so frustrating too, until we "see" it. Then it makes sense. Until then, It CAN raise hackles though I think the analogy would make better sense to me, if we considered that upon becoming lucid in the dream, one realizes that he/she was always lucid. I find that more and more so, the lucidity that I strived to attain in my dream practices, automatically happen now after waking up. The realization that there was never a moment when I was not awake permeates all experience. That doesn't make dreams any more or less real than lucid dreams, or lucid dreams any more or less real than waking state, or waking states any more or less awake then "awake" state. There never is a time when one is not already awake. Maybe if people think more about what that means, a sudden shift in perspective will make things clear, and perhaps even "awaken" them I appreciate the thoughts. And more discussion in these lines might help attain greater clarity.

There is now. We have a few people who are into dreams here, maybe they will join in your discussion. In the meantime, I did a search for dream in the title of topic on the forums... https://www.thedaobums.com/search/?&q=Dream&search_in=titles

No it isnt , it was a joke , but see below MY dreams of harems ? Thats an assumption . I used to have a rather nice little harem when I was younger .. no dream . And you are right , I didnt get to 'run' it . It was all by their choice ; " Not enough good men around ' I was told . They must have missed " Men who don't have their heads full of what don Juan called "violent dreams" . They chose me . I gave up 'choosing women' long ago, I leave the choice up to them , otherwise its too complicated : " You choose what happens ... you choose when you want to have sex and I will adapt to need or abstinence , you choose where to go out .. you choose what to eat ... OH ! so fewer arguments ! " Fewer " ? Yes , eventually : " I am sick of deciding everything YOU pick where we will go out to for dinner . " "Okay , Vietnamese place . " ..... " but I dont like that place ! " (and that was before I had a Latino GF ... which is even more fun ;

I have no right to call myself one who knows. I was one who seeks, and I still am, but I no longer seek in the stars or in books; I'm beginning to hear the teachings of my blood pulsing within me. My story isn't pleasant, it's not sweet and harmonious like the invented stories; it tastes of folly and bewilderment, of madness and dream, like the life of all people who no longer want to lie to themselves. Hermann Hesse

Those that keep The Sacred Lotus Flower Sutta within their Hearts, "the Mantra is the Mind" and "the Body is within the Fleeting World". Therefore in Emptiness there are no instructive meanings, is there in this: The Great Cart thumps in agitation. The mantra (Gate Gate Paragate Parasamgate Bodhi Svaha) is the mind (of Buddha) the Body (ultimate reality as it is) All within this fleeting world: A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream; A flash of lightning in a summer cloud, A flickering lamp, a phantom, and a dream. So, one must enter the room, dawn on the robe, have Buddha Compassion, sit on the Throne and be Without Self, sense ultimate reality as it is, all in this fleeting world: A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream; A flash of lightning in a summer cloud, A flickering lamp, a phantom, and a dream. Or So, one must enter the room, dawn on the robe, have Compassion without Choice, sit on the Throne and be Selfless, sense ultimate reality as it is, all in this fleeting world: A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream; A flash of lightning in a summer cloud, A flickering lamp, a phantom, and a dream. “The Builder” Ignorance - Fear- Hate - Suffering When people are born, they are born without Choice. When they grow up and learn their Name, they remember they were born with no Name, born without Choice. You learn that if you do not Choose, others will choose for you and that choice may not be the choice you would choose. “ The cause of all sorrow lies at the very beginning; it is hidden in the ignorance from which life grows. Remove ignorance and you will destroy the wrong desires that rise from ignorance; destroy these desires and you will wipe out the wrong perception that rises from them. Destroy wrong perception and there is an end of errors in individualized beings. Destroy the errors in individualized beings and the illusions of the six fields will disappear. Destroy illusions and the contact with things will cease to beget misconception. Destroy misconception and you do away with thirst. Destroy thirst and you will be free of all morbid cleaving. Remove the cleaving and you destroy the selfishness of selfhood. If the selfishness of selfhood is destroyed you will be above birth, old age, disease, and death, and you will escape all suffering.” "Through many births I sought in vain The Builder of this House of Pain. Now, Builder, You are plain to see, and from this House at last I'm free; I burst the rafters, roof and wall, and dwell in the Peace beyond them all." The other posted is a Fleeting Flower.

I used to have intense past life experiences, in altered states, mostly when the transpersonal chakras were way open. The memories came through waking visions or at night when I slept, through dreams. The dreams and visions had a very distinct quality that I can't put into words. They felt very real and had a level of supercharged clarity about them. Years later, I still question the whole thing. These are my questions: - Who or what lives or dies? - Are the memories mine or from elsewhere? (i.e. something collective) - Who or what is observing the memories? - Do we co-create with the reincarnation cycle ("planned lives") or are we completely at its mercy, with no helpful variables? Most of the systems that talk about reincarnation divide consciousness into some kind of hierarchy, especially the western schools, but I don't relate to this either. It's all one thing, there's no higher or lower. The other problem is, in order to identify with past life memories as "mine", it requires me to attach personality to whatever is going on, and that creates other issues. I still have to bring it back to the now, to present awareness. Whatever's happening, is happening. "Ok, now memories of other lives seem to be arising... ok, interesting. Moving on!" It's all just a dream, and in this dream, we may have something called "reincarnation" which may include associated memories. It doesn't make it any less of a dream. If reincarnation is a thing, then it exceeds my understanding or my influence, just like independent arising and dissolving does. It also has nothing to do with me because it's clear to me that no matter how consciousness happens, it is empty of self. The past is definitely not happening, whether it's this life or another life. If you're going to weave such experiences into your own personal cosmology for something practical, then I guess it has its uses. Apart from that, I see no reason to entertain past life memories. They're neither here nor there.

sometimes we wake from a dream and realize oh snaps it was just a dream and it was you who produced the whole dream and only you know about it you can know that when your body dies, you return to 1 with all life again and then you realize oh snaps, it was just a solid lifetime and it was you who produced the whole thing and its only you who knows about it . everyone and everything is here becuase you put them here. do you know you are projecting dream images when you are dreamimng ? sometimes do you know you are projecting solid life reality while you are living? sometimes the simpilest+ explanation is ALWAYS the most likely to be true+. so the most complex- explanation is ALWAYS the most likely to be false-. taomaster LOD, its more than a spectrum with 2 poles

“Your mind has its own ideas of what you think you need, but it's rarely correct”. I fully agree, but if I am guided by my dreams am I ‘picking the trauma to be worked with’? There is a grand design in dream work, it requires only that we follow it and work with what is presented to us at any point in time. FWIW I rarely have any dreams now anyway, it seems that what needed to be released has been. My subtle energy body now develops in its own predetermined way, I merely follow its progress, and occasionally do what is required to enable its unfolding. I don’t feel I am violating underlying Daoist principles.

Thank you, Daeluin. I agree, and especially your emphasis on "gray" vs "black/white." Without going into detail (time, complexity), the past 4 years has been very crushing and painful; life and realizations. Various Western pathologies which I finally "saw through" (which is not to say the West is entirely bad). Ongoing (feeding upon itself) social- and self-defeating patterns which Westerners try to help each other out of...which is like sick people trying to "doctor" each other. Unfortunately! I do not say this judgmentally, but SADLY. The Bruce Lee dream was significant because (I take Jungian psychology, [significant] dreams, and synchronicity seriously), this was a "tap on the shoulder" of Hey...remember Tao? I do not believe the spirit of Bruce Lee visited me. The dream was symbolic of course, and he (and Brandon) the most fitting motif. I was like, "Wow. That's why 'dragon' and 'pearl' welled up from the unconscious shortly before the dream." The dream signaled: Remember Tao? Here is where you're meant to be; now you're truly ready (maturity, hard-gained wisdom) to embrace Taoism. Definitely am reading. Also, husband and I plan to take a trip to San Francisco in 2015 or 2016, to visit its Chinese district.

I am reminded of something TWR said during the dream yoga course regarding recurring dreams. It basically boiled down to them occurring because we were being a bad listener. And as it relates to what you’ve written (in my personal experience), when “the message” (typically related to just that split off baggage you refer to) is heard/acknowledged/accepted and sometimes worked through in the “real world” they naturally stop occurring. In my practices, I noticed energetic expressions from largely forgotten physical traumas arising, and because they were so specific the originating incidents were much easier to recognize and trace - lending themselves to my ability to agree in part with what freeform presented. The interesting thing was it seems what others perceived as my equanimity appears to have lent itself to a storing of energetics related to trauma. I tend to agree.

In my view unfelt emotions are split-off baggage, welcoming them when they arise in ‘the work’ and feeling them is respecting their emotional nature. When they are felt they have delivered their message and are then released. I did work with emotions within a system, it wasn’t random emotions arising and random feeling, I worked with a deliberate method that involved remembering and analysing a dream to understand it intellectually, and then letting go of the mental side and purely feeling the feeling. There is a certain equanimity required when feeling the feeling, especially because most stored feelings are the hard to feel ones, equanimity is needed to allow them to be felt, but I think your idea of equanimity might be a bit more austere, somehow allow an emotion but don’t actually connect to it in some way. This quite frankly confuses me. I agree with you that there is Qi work to be done and that it is valuable, but for me Qi work achieves different outcomes, it clears channels that have nothing to do with emotions, for example channels down the arms which can then carry Qi ‘current’. I think there is an institutional fear of emotions that has also become part of the spiritual belief set, something along the lines of a patriarchal perspective that has dominated for the last couple of Millenia at least. I think things are changing now though, emotions and their value are being re-evaluated in the last 100 years or so.

@johndoe2012 and everyone, What I was trying to get in the question is perhaps best illustrated by outer or ordinary life. People have their comfort zones as @manitou pointed out. many people run through a routine life - because of safety and sometimes even if this routine is painful in some ways at least it is familiar. So there's a kind of comfort even in negative states. This applies to internal emotional life as well - most people have a set range or feelings, responses and emotions which they habitually inhabit. These may be part painful, part happy but in the end they are inertic. Their mind is just running through certain strands and unless life kicks them in the butt somehow they are unlikely to leave this 'nest'. So @Bindi this is what I mean about clinging to negative states. I think we do it. It is very hard to shake. Very hard to get out of. @manitou you mentioned judging people and this reflecting back onto you. I admit to this. I do it - but also sometimes its just the truth about people. In my experience there is a big difference between those who cultivate and those who don't. And those who don't like to bind you with their second attention, their dream minds into whatever world they create. I try to treat all with respect and kindness - because that is the way. But that doesn't mean I have to be blind to what people do and how they are. @Nungali the symbolism is very interesting. I think the role of Mercury/Hermes/Thoth is key. We mediate between the sun and moon and this is a key alchemical process. Thanks everyone.

Let's face it, 'proof' is not a strong point when it comes to the afterlife. Though reincarnation does have some. Yet even there the mechanisms and proofs are a bit sketchy. Plus it leaves open the does it really matter, because if we don't remember our lives and not given a piece of paper what we should do better, then maybe it doesn't matter. Probably this world should be most important focus. Or should it? If we had a fundamentalist twist we could well conclude the afterlife is more important and infinitely longer then our moments on Earth. In the past I thought dreamwork might provide the best avenue towards understanding death or perhaps solidifying the identity in midst of the forces of unconsciousness. Never had much luck in it. Though an afterlife lived out as a lucid dream might be very pleasant. That was a focus in the Movie What Dream Might Come.

I have been practicing Taoist internal alchemy methods, I created a crystal of shen (spirit) in my lower dan tien which fills my body with light. The same as external alchemists cook materials in a cauldren, I cooked jing and chi in the cauldren of my dan tien to create the crystal; the sexual glands are the 'stove' which heats the cauldren. It took me two days to do, that night I dreamed about the five elements (I had not been thinking about the five elements before the dream).

And all the while there is not a shred of evidence that the physical world is just an illusory dream rising out of consciousness, awareness or whatever one want to call it. It's just one of those feel good philosophies that have no recognizable connection to reality as actually lived. But there are even more possibilities. Pick and choose: 1. Our current life is just a (bad?) dream, and soon we will wake up as a pretty prince or princess and all will be well. 2. We are part of a cyberworld and everything will turn out fine because the programmer is a nice guy. 3. There is a heaven and nobody will go to hell. And as there is hardly any limit to the human imagination there will doubtlessly be a lot more. All of them logical possibilities and impossible to disprove. When all you want is a philosophy that makes you feel good, I guess you can start and end right here. No need to test the predictions of your philosophy against reality, as the philosophy nicely avoids making any predictions that can be tested. Pseudoscience at its best! But then again, when all you want is a nice irrefutable feel good philosophy it's perfect.

I actually did dream about the native American once. It was very lucid and powerful. In this dream, I was concern about my path. So, I was led into this tent and I encountered several native American elders. Is one of these dreams you can not forget. Yet, do I dream about the early colonists in this country? NO. And why? Don't know. Maybe what we thought as the American spirit does not really exist at all.

No....I dream of historical figures all the time. What books?... I even heard Hebrew spoken to me in my dreams. Deities...like what? American deities? I dream of Sambhogakaya beings all the time. They are generally Abott Buddhist monks. Couple of Taoist masters. One even looked like me but he is not. I mastered the MCO just because I woke up from a dream about couple of Han dynasty warriors. What books??? What are you talking about??

You may say the Trump phenomena is also a part of the Tao because of the Yang rising...hehehehe... BUT...I dream of him twice. In the first dream, I was lecturing him on the finer point of Nazism because I realized that he was a closet Hitler. In the second dream, I saw him having a setback in his campaign because he has miscalculated. This analogy was played out in the game of baseball. I don't feel it. I don't feel America....the American spirit. For me, America isn't real.

Infants dream, animals dream, and most of my dreams are very pleasant. I think our problems can express in dream as can our pleasures and successes. The activity of thought is not restricted by the sleep cycle. I do agree that many of us have so much repressed and suppressed stress and anxiety that it seems as if dreaming is mostly related to problems.

In a dream there is a central character (you) to whom all this stuff is happening to, then you wake up from the dream in the morning and you realise it was all a creation of your mind but there is still this central character to whom all this stuff is happening to it just now exists in your waking hours. But if you wake up from your life "spiritually" then the difference is that there isn't this central character any more, it is realised as just more imagination. So I would say generally our lives are like dreams, in the sense that we are living in illusory mind created ideas of what we think we are, but reality isn't like a dream because when we realise reality we are no longer doing that, the central character of the story has vanished.

FWIW, I'll offer a few words. This is a wrong understanding of karma. It is not a matter of holding on to the past or letting it go. Each action and event is related to every other action and event in an unimaginably complex array of interaction / cause and effect that stretches back interminably and stretches forward as time marches along. Every person and thing is what, where, and how it is as a result of this incomprehensible web of relationship. Your karma has brought you to a place such that you do not see truth in the dharma, mine is to see it. Whether that's good or bad is an overlay of human judgement. It is possible that you are so fixed in a single belief system that it will never change, it's unlikely but possible. Every one of us sees the world through our unique perspective created by this karmic web. This perspective defines reality for us. You may have the perspective that your view of reality is exactly and perfectly correct and every other human is incorrect. Many of us feel that way. Who knows? Maybe it's true. More likely there will (or already has) come a time when you see things a bit differently. It can be a dramatic or very subtle change in perspective but to the extent it changes our world view, it changes our reality. This is precisely why life is like a dream. Our perspective defines our reality. That perspective changes and it is as if we awakened from a dream. We look back at the way things used to seem and wonder how we could have felt or acted that way. It is as unreal (or real, depending on your perspective) as last night's dream. Because of the inter-related (karmic) nature of our existence, many things are seen in a common way. This is the foundation for us agreeing on what is "real." To the extent that others see things in a different way, their reality is different. The corollary to this is that words generally cannot change someone's perspective. It is frustrating for someone what has "seen the light" to try to help others see it in their way unsuccessfully. It is equally frustrating to have someone trying to change your perspective when you "know" they're wrong. It is only when something shifts inside us that we are open to a new perspective. Why and how that happens is a great mystery, at least to me. Call it karma, call it a blessing, call it an accident. So while we can certainly each share our unique perspective, it is rarely productive to take things personally and attack each other because our views, and methods of presenting them, conflict. Better to let it go and simply accept it as it is... Sorry for the rant... Peace

Sherlock Holmes was a fictional character out of a book. Santa Clause said only good boys get toys. Chicken Lickin' said the sky was falling down. Did I say reality was simple, or even explainable ? No. I said reality was reality and dream is dream. You can know reality by direct perception of it, you can know a dream from a table, a rock from a wave.

It either is a dream or it isn't. We all know what a dream is. We go to sleep, we fall down stairs, fly, eat a banquet, but we know when we awake that none of that happened. We can determine dream state and waking state very easily. Where is the dualism ? Im completely non dual as should be obvious. A is A, a thing is a thing.