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Yes I obey gravity , but that's not all I can do as a human , I can screw up, be self destructive , invent, dream , and so forth - its what makes me special. Yea, as demi-gods we be , and can spin round toss up our kilt and exclaim "Feast yer eyes Tao ! ";)

The same thing keeps coming up, doesn't it?! What difference does it make whether your choices (whatever they happen to be) are or are not ultimately manifestations of Tao. In daily life you still have to make your own choices no matter how you wish to answer the metaphysical question of free will that's engendering all these ruminations. There are ways of life to choose from, and it's up to you what you do. Maybe the process of making a choice is just another manifestation of Tao (as I think it is) and maybe not, but it's still you deliberating and deciding what you do. There is no escape from being responsible for your own choices. And indeed as Stosh wrote: "we can be self destructive., come to crazy unsubstantiated conclusions, dream of things that don't exist , ignore our real situation , and operate as if we were in some other world. We heavily use ,and often rely on, abstractions which may or may not be true." This may be called in a non-metaphysical, subjective sense "not following Tao". The question whether we follow Tao in this non-metaphysical, subjective sense is completely distinct from the question whether we can refuse to follow Tao in the metaphysical sense. Mixing up those two meanings leads to endless confusion.

No , tao , or natural order is not in everything humans do. Number one, is that we can be self destructive., come to crazy unsubstantiated conclusions, dream of things that don't exist , ignore our real situation , and operate as if we were in some other world. We heavily use ,and often rely on, abstractions which may or may not be true. It allows us to dominate the earth collectively , but at the same time, brings a lot of headache individually.

yeah ... but I grew up and dreamed about these guys version (and the dream came true ! )

From a PM I got permission to post here - Hey Aletheia, just wanted to share that I also very much like and value Drew's work, even though I don't understand all of it every time. I sense much truth in his work and words. I wanted to ask you what exercise did help you the most on your path, using Drew's ideas? Was it moving yin and yang? If so, for how long did you practice it to get to your results? At the moment I am not yet able to do full lotus ----------- Okay I'll just write down some topics to help me remember -- breathing, horse stance, fasting, moving of yin and yang, orbit, non-dualism/music theory, emotions. Okay this is my interpretation of drew's work and although I don't remember what daily routine I was doing at the time, I was doing something similar when the heavenly orbit opened for me with a kundalini awakening. There's nothing too complicated there I don't think, it just takes putting it together and really getting a feel for what you're doing. ------------ Breathing: So first, this is the breathing technique - Breathing all the way down to and with the perineum is key for getting the governing channel open. If you're not doing it correctly then the heavenly orbit won't open up. It only need be really slight, like 1% of the whole bodily breath so you don't need to be totally conscious of the perineum, it just needs to be involved with the breathing. Both during standing and seated and ultimately all day long too. Similarly the tongue has to be placed at the roof of the mouth all day long and certainly during seated and standing practise. ------------------ Horse Stance: Horse stance recodes the body getting it ready for the qi flows - Right so I would do that first thing in the morning after waking up followed by 5 rounds of wim hof breathing -- 30 deep breaths then max hold on the EXHALE (see youtbe for correct methodology etc). Plus do something similar or the same whenever you think about sex too. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE MIND AND BODY CELIBATE. Now see what drew says about doing max hold horse stance followed by wim hof breathing because I think he does them at the same time and perhaps for good reason. ---------------- Fasting: I personally fast all day and then eat in the evenings. Fasting activates the vagus nerve and the vagus nerve from the perspective of the material plane plays a big role in spiritual experiences. -------------- Moving of Yin and Yang: Moving of Yin and Yang is key as an incarnation of the logos -- a dynamic of unification of the many as the one - I would do the whole routine once a day to help get the channels open and the qi moving, and add extra moving of yin and yang by itself throughout the day where you can and end with the tapping routine she does at the end of the video. Not sure when the best time to do the practice. Other than it's useful to do before bed in fairly deep horse stance. Just follow along with the programme. It's like riding a bike, it gets easier through time. The longer you spend doing Moving of yin and Yang the better. It gathers the qi, unblocks the channels and gets the qi moving. You can picture energy going out of the palms while you keep them on the central channel. --------------- Orbit: drew recommends the first Chia book plus the SFQ heavenly orbit DVD. For the small universe or microcosmic orbit guidance you can read Mantak Chia's first book which focuses on microcosmic orbit -- for free -- http://www.scribd.com/doc/2672168/Mantak-Chia-Awaken-Healing-Energy-through-the-Tao For the advanced levels of the small universe/microcosmic orbit practice then read this book http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Immortality-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673 -------------- Non-dualism/music theory The music theory for now can be substituted by a form of non-dualism which gets you beyond thinking in linear sequence and abstract representation. Some type of dream work should help, I just remembered this from when I was thinking about time years ago now. Protention and retention, however, Husserl believed in the western subject but still - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIWTczSGoVs -------------- Emotions: There's more to Taoist emotions then I personally understand. But one thing that could be helpful is to realise that pretty much all contemporary institutions are sick so the closer you get to them and the more serious you take them, then the sicker you will be! I'll try and tidy things up a little later. Hopefully that's helpful for people!

Think your dream may have been a release of some of that anger? If so, now it is time to let it go and move on. Good luck to you.

Hello everyone, I'm experiencing some issues at the moment, so if you have familiar experiences I would be grateful for any advice. So I'm trying to change my life for better, find a new place, new job again and again, hobbies, but I carry a bad negative energy( or aura I don't know) from the past. I'm not an angry person, but I feel that I have a lot of bottled anger in me, my unconscious mind always starts negative thinking about particular one person which was in my life for many years, last years I just couldn't stand that person but he kept showing up in my life if I ignored him, he used my fears to get in to my life, I just didn't knew how to react then because I wasn't unware of my self. So I'm not in touch with that person for about 2 months I gave him clear message that I don't want to be in touch with him anymore, he's not calling or texting me anymore but using other people to get to my space, still showing around the place where I live, wants my energy. So lately I been waking up at 2AM in the morning fully awake, feeling some strong negative feelings emotions which quickly passes away. Mind racing with negative past thoughts experiences, I cant stop them just trying to stay present. Last night before sleep I did some Meditation, did short session of Zhan Zhuang went to sleep. Had a dream for first time in my life as I can remember that I was expressing my anger to one person, physically beating him shouting on him, made sure that all others around see that and hear it. I was scaring that person made sure he knows that in the future I will do the same thing to him. After that I walked away the corner and had a feeling that I been chased by that group of people who been there, I hide in the grass and watch who's passing by but it wasn't them. so I woke up completely calm 2.30 am my mind was not racing, I read online that 2 AM is a liver channel, and anger is stored in liver, all makes sense. Wonder is there some methods like maybe shaking practise or something to release that anger energetically , because I think by being aware and meditating helps me understand my anger issues but it doesn't release it energetically. Thanks Peace

Hi, "bums!" I happened to sign in and have a PM asking for advice on drew's work. I'm going to post here as a kind of status report. The last few months I've been staying in, at home in my bedroom, as much as possible in order that I might build my energy. Having said that I haven't been doing much in the way of serious practice at all other than sitting on my bed and doing the breathing with tongue against the roof of mouth and engaging the perineum. Obviously I've done moving of yin and yang and some standing tai chi too. But nothing really serious which for me would mean really concentrating on qigong 24/7. I realised a few months ago that the governing channel up the back was not properly open, really all the energy was at the front. During my kundalini awakening I was engaging the perineum, I know because during the awakening I remember thinking through the breathing technique I was employing so that I could remember what I was doing for future reference. At the time I hadn't read about any techniques other than a couple of forum posts and was really only trying out reverse breathing while reading a book without really thinking about it. So at the time I really thought that I'd screwed up, I had read people suggesting not to do the orbit but that is exactly what I did after feeling heat in pelvic region at the front of the body and had moved, or concentrated the energy, to the sacrum (which I was referring to as "the top of my ass" in my welcome post) a few times only for it to full back from a more point-like energy to something more diffuse. The idea that I'd consciously induced, by followed steps to bring on, an awakening was alien to me at the time even though I was somewhat familiar with descriptions and basic mechanics of the process -- energy going up the spine to the head -- as I was framing the experience in the context of my very limited understanding of the MCO. So I actually believed I'd screwed up the orbit by having dream energy in head and fire in the pelvic region. Anyway, I've been over the experience before on the forum with my wifi being blown out by the energy and having a dull pain cross the navel the next day etc. Few months later I did my first healing with my friend's leg being healed -- instant change of colour from purple to normal as I was pulling out energy and swelling going down as I projected qi into the leg, plus all the pain going away etc. Okay so the top of my head opened up and started to fill the body with magnetic energy etc. I've covered and gone over that stuff before. So during the big breakthroughs, awakening, top head opening etc. I'd had the perineum engaged but then at other times I'd been focusing on the dan tien too much so that the breathing was too high. So the above is "gospel according to Aletheia" that is in the free PDF as a major teaching. The perineum has got to be in the game as second nature for breathing really 24/7 I would guess?!?? So when I did start incorporating the governing vessel I properly began to feel energy going up the back, which as an experience escapes instrumental words because the energy is divine in nature. But the sacrum warms and the point opposite the navel on the back, I think it's called ming men?? that area is very magnetic so that on the in breath my t-shirt is sucked and attracted to that point while energy simultaneously radiates away from the area mainly traveling upward embracing the whole back but more so up the spinal zone. I can write some more later. But another thing I noticed is everyone is affected by the qi energy. Just like cats go bananas for qi so do the females, just like drew says. My friend asked to get married but I had to explain that its the energy she's attracted to, not me. Also I noticed that the energy will act on people's lower chakra as an unblocking destagnation device. Just like drew says! Okay also as the channels fill inside the body they produce magnetic fields around and inside the body which interact, repel and attract, as you move about. So the other day I was cleaning my teeth and the action of my hand and arm were moving energy around in the dan tien like a synchronized dance. Plus if I put my hand in front of the body and move it up and down I feel the channels. Just posting this without re-reading and fixing grammar etc. Right also I see blue lights and drew says that's blueshift, or the Kantian epistemic spatialtemporal horizon imploding in on itself as the annihilation of time as we intuit it a priori as the pathos of distance! or what like I think of as making the jump to the speed of light!

Having ingrained opinions and a high estimate of one's own conduct, leaving the world behind and being different from common society, engaging in lofty discussions and resentfully slandering others - all this is merely indicative of arrogance. But it is favored by the scholars of mountain and valley, men who censure the world and throw themselves with withered visage into the watery depths. Discoursing on humaneness, righteousness, loyalty, and trustworthiness, being reverent, frugal, deferential, and yielding - all this is merely indicative of selfcultivation. But it is favored by the scholars who wish to bring peace to the world, men who teach and instruct, who pursue learning at home and abroad. Discoursing on great merit and establishing great fame, observing the ceremonies for lord and subject, and rectifying those on high and those below - all this is merely indicative of governing. But it is favored by the scholars of court, men who honor their ruler and strengthen his state, who devote themselves to incorporating other states. Retiring to bogs and marshes, dwelling in the vacant wilderness, fishing and living leisurely - all this is merely indicative of nonaction. But it is favored by the scholars of rivers and lakes, men who flee from the world and wish to be idle. Blowing and breathing, exhaling and inhaling, expelling the old and taking in the new, bear strides and bird stretches {{Readers familiar with Yoga will immediately recognize the regimen described in this sentence as a close Chinese adaptation of that ancient Indian discipline.}} all this is merely indicative of the desire for longevity. But it is favored by scholars who channel the vital breath and flex the muscles and joints, men who nourish the physical form so as to emulate the hoary age of Progenitor P'eng. If someone could be lofty without having ingrained opinions, cultivate himself without humaneness and righteousness, govern without merit or fame, be idle without rivers or lakes, and live long without channeling and flexions, {{Like channeling, a type of Yoga-inspired Taoist exercise designed to increase one's longevity.}} he would forget everything, yet he would possess everything. His tranquillity would be unlimited, yet a multitude of excellences would follow in his wake. This is the Way of heaven and earth, the integrity of the sage. Therefore, it is said, "placidity, mildness, quietude, indifference, emptiness, nonbeing, and nonaction - these are the root of heaven and earth, the substance of the Way and virtue." Thus the sage rests in them. Resting, he is peaceful and easeful; peaceful and easeful, he is placid and mild. Hence worries and troubles do not assail him, pernicious influences do not assault him. Consequently, his integrity is intact and his spirit is undiminished. Therefore, it is said, the sage "walks with heaven in life and evolves with things in death. In stillness, he shares the same integrity as yin; in movement, he shares the same current as yang." He is not the founder of fortune, nor is he the initiator of misfortune. He responds when affected, moves when pressed, and arises only when he has no other choice. He rids himself of knowledge and precedent, conforming to the principle of heaven. Thus, there will be "no calamity from heaven, no encumbrance from things, no censure from men, and no reproach from ghosts." His life is like floating; his death is like resting. He does not have anxious thoughts; he does not make plans beforehand. He is "bright but not dazzling," trustworthy but not expectant. He "does not dream when he is asleep, does not worry when he is awake." His spirit is unadulterated; "his soul does not weary." His emptiness, nonbeing, placidity, and mildness are a match for the integrity of heaven. Therefore, it is said, sorrow and joy are perversions of integrity; happiness and anger are transgressions of the Way; likes and dislikes are failings of the mind. Thus, when the mind is free from anxiety and joy, that is the ultimate of integrity. When it is unified and unchanging, that is the ultimate of stillness. When there is nothing that irritates it, that is the ultimate of emptiness. When it has no dealings with other things, that is the ultimate of mildness. When there is nothing that runs counter to it, that is the ultimate of purity. Therefore, it is said, when the physical form is toiled without rest it will become fatigued; when the spiritual essence {{The word for "essence" in Old Sinitic also meant "semen." Because of this identification, the Taoist adept was always very careful not to spill his semen thoughtlessly since that constituted a loss of spiritual essence. This helps to account for the elaborate regimes of sexual hygiene that were practiced in several branches of Taoism.}} is used without end it will be exhausted, toiled then exhausted. The nature of water is to be clear when unadulterated, to be level when undisturbed. But if it is blocked and not allowed to flow, it cannot retain its clearness. This is a symbol for the integrity of heaven. Hence, it is said, to be pure and unadulterated, to be still and unchanging, to be mild and nonactive, to walk with heaven when one moves - this is the Way to nourish the spirit. Now, he who owns a fine sword from the southeast stores it in a scabbard, not daring to use it lightly - this is the pinnacle of preciousness. But the spiritual essence flows forth in all directions, never reaching a limit. It borders heaven above, encircles the earth below, transforming and nurturing the myriad things. It cannot be symbolized, but its name is "With Deus." {{Ti, the supreme deity; a deified royal ancestor. This word is sometimes translated as "God" or "gods." In later usage, it also came to mean "emperor."}} The Way of purity and plainness lies only in guarding the spirit. Guard and do not lose it, becoming one with the spirit. The essence of oneness will pervade and join with the order of heaven. There is a proverb that says, "The masses of men emphasize profit; the incorruptible scholars emphasize fame; wise men esteem will; the sage values essence." Hence plainness may be defined as what is unalloyed, and purity as keeping the spirit undiminished. One who can embody purity and plainness may be called a "true man."

Dream work is foundational in my process. To my entire life, really... I have lived my entire life, with the unshakable sense... that one moment I will awaken withing 'real life'... in the same way, I become lucid in my dreams every night...

I practice and it is amazing, one of my favorite practices. It is empowering and liberating. Like Luke, I study with Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche. I’ve done dream and sleep yoga retreats with him, the Glidewing course, and read his book on the subject. The book is excellent but if you can afford the online workshop, it will be far more accessible and supportive. It is a 24 hour practice. The most important parts of the practice are exercises done upon awakening, throughout the day, and preparing for sleep. It takes most people a very long time to see tangible success so few stick with it long enough to benefit. It took me about 18 months before starting to have consistent lucidity but it is worth it to me. The idea is is that if we can become lucid in dream we can change and control the dream at will. We can travel, meet with spiritual masters, practice in our dream, ask questions, learn things, neutralize threatening situations, etc... Most importantly, it cultivates a sense of flexibility and liberation that carries into our waking life. As as my teacher says, we sleep 30% of our lives. That’s 25 - 30 years of our life asleep. Imagine what we can do with all of that time if we can harness it for spiritual growth. Another nice benefit is that it really leads to very nourishing and restful sleep. I never feel better than when waking up from lucid dreams, with one exception - sleep yoga, but that’s even more challenging. I’d start with dream yoga.

I’m on retreat at the moment and just woke up from having a lucid dream, felt compelled to visit this site, found this post and one I started 10 years ago! Fun stuff... No time right now but I will try to post a bit about dream yoga as soon as i have a bit more time.

Anybody ever practice Tibetan Dream Yoga? What was it like? How did you do it? With who? You know, tell us your story.

Anybody notice in their dreams the cycling of earth (caves, tombs), water (rivers, lakes), fire (war, fighting, traveling), and air (flying)?

I hope I don't dream of large insects again like last night!

Hi !nverse, Dream on in your sleep... Good night. - LimA

I'm working on getting a job, even though certain facets of the Original episode are still at play, and from thinking back over the last few weeks there have been events where it's reared its head in the past, although not in such an abrupt and jarring way. Having a difficult time gaining/finding interest in most things for some reason, even things I was interested in at a prior time. As far as my deep dream or desire, I'm not exactly sure. I've spent so many years deliberating over what to do and how I should go about applying myself, that I guess I've built up a big mass of indecisiveness or maybe a blockage of some sort. I've always been interested in the arts. People have suggested that I actively engage in just about every medium over the years, from suggesting that I write a book, to creating music, to painting. A friend told me something years ago and the only piece that really stuck with me was "Jack of all trades, master of none" and I knew I wanted to at least gain some kind of mastery in one thing, just to know that I saw one thing through to completion and gave it an honest effort, though with all of the deliberation it's gets to be seen. I've been in a not so good place mentally for a while, and I guess I hadn't noticed just how detrimental it was and how bad it was getting until the episode happened. There have been flare ups over the years though nothing like what I experienced several weeks ago. Throughout that period I probably played guitar with the most regularity, and made depressive and or pretty cynical critiques on society and my personal life on facebook. Im trying to heal, tho it's like the twilight zone off and on with what's been happening. I'm becoming less fearful, though I'd really like things around me to return to some semblance of normality. I want to get back that life I was living before I became so disillusioned with the world and eventually practiced meditative techniques I shouldn't have been doing. I really want friends, I want to start learning again, I want the phenomena to cease, I want the ravens and dark days to go away

yes exactly - both Master Yan Xin and Chunyi Lin use "celestial qi" which is also "yuan qi." there are different meanings of "yuan qi." If you study the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality it states that yuan qi originates on the right side of the heart - and it is also what remains after the yang shen is vaporized at the end of the alchemy training - the yuan qi. So it is not our personal mind and the yuan qi emanates out of the pineal gland, from the heart. And so only the eyes are yang in the body which means the eyes emanate the yuan qi and yuan shen. This is why a qigong master or Poonjaji can see someone's past lives by looking into their eyes. Chunyi said he sees past lives also. So also Effie P. Chow does this as well - so when they heal people they recharge their qi as they heal people. Master Yan Xin calls it "synchronous resonance" with the "virtual information field." So this is why the "golden key" is superluminal yin matter as the secret phonon energy that is quasi-matter and superluminal information, from the future. There is an actual spacetime vortex being created. So you have surround the shen with qi - and once Chunyi had to meditate to recharge his qi, so had his students teach the class - because he had dizziness from his shen leaving his body without enough qi surrounding it. I had this happen to me as well but I did not know what it meant. The details are in chapter 11 - I think - it is chapter 11 of Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality. This dizziness is not just some proprioception blockage - the dizziness is literally a spacetime vortex! That is why I stopped meditating at the time since I had no idea what had happened to me. haha. It was not until years later that I discovered the details described in the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality. People on this forum had insisted that the book should not be read since it is too dangerous! haha. So I had not gone back to it to study it in detail. That was a big mistake. But Chunyi said now he always sees light in his lower tan t'ien when he goes into the Emptiness - but to do that he had to take some dangerous medicinal herbs to clear out his meridians some more - probably very similar to what Wang Liping had to do for his training, as detailed in "Opening the Dragon Gate." It appears that Robert Peng and Chunyi Lin had the same Shaolin qigong master teacher, Master Yao, as well. So Robert Peng did a long cave meditation underneath the Shaolin monastery - and this is very similar to the cave meditation that Chunyi Lin did at Mt. Qingcheng - the 49 day fast with no sleep and just some water while in full lotus the whole time. So he said he went into heaven and he saw his grandparents that he not even met before - but he knew it was them. And also his spiritual masters visited him as yang shen bodies - including Lao Tzu touching his head. So yes he described how he had a very deep "small universe" meditation or MCO - and so he saw the falling snow in the sky or what is called flowers in the winter or something - it is described in the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality as when the golden light of the immortal yang shen is starting to appear. So at that stage - you have to go into retreat for the yang shen to actually appear. But instead qigong master Chunyi Lin chooses to do healing practice. But he said his dream is to go back into the cave meditation and live to be 225 years old, etc. and also he knows masters who are in the mountains of China with the golden aura from developing their yang shen.

If the OP and the rest of the forum members who are interested on this subject and have the time to read the document that follows, they will understand the intrincate nature of the 5E Theory and it's relationship with the Mind and subsequent healing using Chinese medicinal herbs: Using Heat Clearing Herbs to Calm the Spirit http://sixfishes.com/learn/edu/using-heat-clearing-herbs-to-calm-the-spirit Hope you find it useful and understand that poor sleep/insomnia/dream disturbed sleep is caused by excess Heat that needs to be cleared up. Best!

thanks for that inter-play... I think your mind is running endless. You could drink a bottle of whiskey to sleep through the night but that still won't solve the issue. I think there are a few ways to go about this: 1. Find a job now, in the current situation... just find jobs that jump out to you. 2. Get some more education in stuff that appeals to your desires of working or practical side. It can change later, just you need a stepping stone. tell us this: What is your deep dream, goal, desire, want, passion of stuff... folks may have a job or life suggestion.

omg I would love to find those. If you have those coins, you should put them out, drop'em on the street at random. Some person will find them and if they live with a foot in the more mystical side of the world, the coins might give them pause. A moment or two think about the odds of finding such strange objects, to reflect if there's any meaning they can draw from the coins into there life. (i bet somewhere out there is a person who tarot cards outside, for just this reason) I'm somewhat inspired by Robert Moss's work on the shamanic side of dreaming. As a spiritual exercise he states we should "Take our dreams more seriously and take real life more as dreams". Keeping an eye out for synchronicities, symbols, archetypes; using dream interpretations in our real life. Seeing what happens. First thing is a certain fearlessness and not taking things as seriously. Second it hones the awareness because you're looking at the world for signs or letting them come to you. An interesting cloud, a falling leaf, can be matters of importance and lead you one direction or another (helps to be retired). That's the 'foreground' level, in the background your subconscious is gaining a little more free reign, with resources we most often ignore. You're guided by an intelligence often left dormant. I have a section on this in my PPD 'Life as dream'. I don't use it all the time, but when I do, it leads to fascinating experiences, and hopefully that rubs off a little bit on me when I'm not consciously using it.

I have a problem waking up during sleep. I haven't been getting full sleep for too long, as in i don't feel rested often and racing thoughts. It's been around 12 or early hours in the morning. I wake up with a racing heart beat and for a while I've figure it may be some kind of bad dream, I'm not sure. How do I resolve this issue within myself so that I can begin to heal?

FYI, the girl was photographed with the sun facing her. The young man was under some shades....there..hehehehe.. I can not read aura. Most of my insights into the individuals are from dream visions.... Look at the Harvey Weinstein...he has grossly uneven eyes...heheheh....

In memory all actions are equal... to me. When an experience manifests with a strong reaction, or reveals some aspect of myself, or my essential nature previously unknown, whether in the dream realms or the waking, then it has power and value in my path. Dreams are so real when I'm in them, that there are times distinguishing them as 'not real' is not possible, until I wake up. Only then do I look back and sigh and say "well, it was just a dream." However, I no longer say that to myself... for too many times, I have had experiences in dreams that revealed key aspects to my essential nature, that have brought about realizations and insights that have lasting, powerful resonant effects in my experience of true self. Does it matter where the source of an experience came from, in the potential for that experience to reveal truth? Any longer, I say no. Dream experience and Waking experience are both often equal in memory, when dreams are vivid enough and recalled with clarity. And if an experience can bring about insight and realization, then to me, it matters little to me, how solid the event was... *(particularly when waking life is proven to not be solid, or permanent ) I honor my dreaming life as I do my waking life... but I also only take that so far and don't worship either as ultimate truth, nor do either lend me a sense of absolute certainty in any way, other than to reinforce the one certainty that still remains with me... i am aware. Waking life to me, is more like a shared dream, than dreams are like individual fantasies of unreality.

Isn't life but a dream? Perhaps, the dreams are more real? Hahaha No but seriously, there are 3 stages of sleep as you probably know: with the SWS stage being where you basically dead to the world and the REM stage where dreams occur. I know taoists have said that sleep without dreams is "best" but personally I think in today's hyper-modern world, we need dreams, to help unravel so much input and stress that we choose to allow into our lives. I think dreams can also being a source of inspiration / self-reflection, that make the day and life a bit more meaningful.