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Let's see.. Why does it appear these attacks are on the increase? When you've been alive and reading the news as long as I have, you realize there's an ebb and flow to things. Even with terrorism, if you cognizant in the 60's and 70's there were huge spikes. Many of it now is the (hopefully) death throws Daesh (Isis), as they're losing land they're sending propaganda to sympathetic and stupid individual to commit murder on there behalf. I'd also point out that refugees are a weapon of modern warfare. Nations would be better off creating safe zones in war torn countries, then taking in 100,000's or millions. Diverting some of the billions spent on modern war equipment into fast, decent refugee sites in there own countries, would solve much of the horrors of the latest migration. Especially if it went beyond housing into life quality programs. Horribly at times with less terrorism there seems to full blown wars that create destruction and body counts that make terrorism seem almost benign. Not to mention we tend to only be aware of terrorism when its in the West, ignoring the constant threat some of the world lives in. Is empathy the right approach? Yeah, without having a basis on empathy you don't understand Whys. You end up fighting symptoms and not the disease. It doesn't mean you don't punish. It means you go beyond just punishing and look at the causes behind actions. Bad idea to live in a black and white world, where you elitist enough to conclude those who disagree with you are without morals. Very black and white. Instead of justice, you get rules, more rules and devolution into puritanical hypocrisy. Setting intelligent pragmatic laws within a live and let live framework, doesn't seem that offensive to me. Perhaps one day you'll live in your dream world, where tolerance and empathy are dirty words, and unbridled capitalism means businesses can get away with anything they want. Somehow I don't think it'll be the 'moral' utopia you think it will. What else.. "Rugged individualism, like capitalism, is used as a perjorative by collectivists. It's easy to massage the words into whatever form an attacker wishes effectively utilising the enemies strengths against them" Trotting out plot lines from Ayn Rand doesn't wash in real life. Most people admire rugged individualism. The best of them are live and let life people by there very nature. Its the small minded who are stuck judging and corralling people into there little boxes.

That's what they say... and along with it, I could say that I can reach a super-state of ultra-subtle micro-clear luminescent light which is the most secret essence of the mind of the Buddhas, pristine awareness of the primordial consciousness. It doesn't take too much to learn how to speak of nothing in this way. Those who are clear about themselves, they know that they cannot recollect a single experience outside of the combinations of the 5 senses: even the most subtle and sublime experience of a state of clear light in a dream state... it's still a matter of vision, the sense of sight becomes prevalent. Yes, this is an advanced outcome of the training in concentration... but it's just a very subtle experience of the illusion of the Self. When people sit and say to themselves (and to others in public forums) that they rest in pure awareness or "feeling their presence", what they're really doing is resting in the tactile sensations of their bodies (again, one of the 5 senses). Since the Buddha was quite clear about himself, he understood that because of this precise thing, there's no such a thing as a Self. There is none who perceive: there are just sensations and memory. Buddhism wasn't about investigating reality to find out where's the self... it was about understanding that there's no self to reach detachment and avoid suffering. That's all. Meditation was 1/8 of the entire Path. They may call it even Waka-Taka and smile from the verge of the Universe while saying it... it's just a philosophical concept of something that, according to a mere theory, should exist to fit a precise world-view...

That happened to me. I had changed my regular routine to a meditation of just feeling my presence as a field in and around my body. I spent about two hours a day performing that style of meditation. After three days of performing that style of meditation, while I was sleeping in bed at night, I could hear someone snoring. It was me! When I looked down I could see my mind dreaming, I could see the dream scenes and they were small and far away. The vantage point I was in seemed to be a wide open empty space and I felt like I was a little stationary point of view. I did not loose awareness and just remained, listening to my body snoring, watching the ltttle dreams come and go in cycles. In the morning, when the body woke up, it was like a big explosion in slow motion as waking consciousness arrived and the world of forms appeared once more. At first I thought I would be very tired since I had been aware without any "sleep" but I was fine. I guess my body and mind were getting the rest that they needed. In all, I experienced 24 hour awareness for 1 1/2 weeks, without any detrimental effects. After a while I decided that I liked being not aware during sleep more than experiencing this vast empty space and quit the "presence" meditation as a regular routine. I didn't think I was getting anywhere or progressing.

Practitioners of dream and sleep yoga do it. I've done it.

I sincerely doubt that someone could do this. When the senses are disengaged, memory kicks in and build a sensate experience... out of that peculiar experience, it comes a peculiar Self. When the experience of the dream is gone, this Self is gone. In deep sleep, there's nothing at all and none experiencing it. There's no such a thing as a 6th sense.

Welcome Kar3n! I hope you enjoy your new role here. A brief piece of unsolicited advice - don't take anything personally or seriously. It's all only a dream and we're a bunch of couch quarterbacks who like to hear ourselves type! I predict that you will be a voice of reason and compassion on the Mods team (not that the rest aren't!) Warm wishes and good luck, Steve

Dream Police are next, with theme music by Cheap Trick.

One time during a lucid dream I decided to do a chakra/energy meditation. It was probably the most intense energetic experience I've had. It was more amplified than in the physical for sure!

There have been studies which indicate that 25% physical activity and 75% visualization, in this case lucid dreaming, is the most beneficial method one can use. And if you're skeptical about this statement, a simple Google search is all you need. Lucid dreaming, and especially WILDs (Wake Induced Lucid Dreams) is one of the best things our mind has to offer. And keep in mind: Sleep is a dream we share with ourselves and reality a dream we share with everybody!

This reminder from Guru Padma is meant for you to contemplate because your views are clearly a fixation thru asserting the realness of disturbing emotions which is exactly that which cause endless samsaric wanderings. My point is that ego that gives rise to disturbing emotions is unreal, a story we make up for whatever partialness of attitudes we cling to, but appears like real to those who adopt your line of reasoning and logic. Recognising that all is mind, and that mind is empty yet cognizant is the path and the fruit. There is no linearity to this approach. All the teachings and practices contained within the great vehicle is to drive this point home until all doubts about this dissolve. In the Vajrayana schools the masters who give public teachings dont even pay heed to ego. In Tibet there is no direct translation for 'ego' - what the Tibetans have which is closest to the meaning is Dakdzin, which literally means 'clinging to a self'. This, it is said, gives rise to samsaric existence, or existence marred by duality. To end samsaric existence, practice the Dharma in such a way whereby this clinging is gradually weakened until such time it no longer has any feeding ground, and then it will shrivel and vanish like it never existed before. Those who insist on the realness of things like infinite layers of ever-deepening subconsciousness with the ego bubbling away hidden in the recesses of that are simply arguing for the arising of endless frustration because there will never be an end should one persist on taking the route of uncovering these layers as a means to freedom. Its like dreaming that you are searching for treasure within a dream. "Just as the ocean has waves, and the sun has rays, so the mind’s own radiance is its thoughts and emotions. The ocean has waves, yet the ocean is not particularly disturbed by them. The waves are the very nature of the ocean. Waves will rise, but where do they go? Back into the ocean. And where do the waves come from? The ocean. In the same manner, thoughts and emotions are the radiance and expression of the very nature of the mind. They rise from the mind, but where do they dissolve? Back into the mind. Whatever rises, do not see it as a particular problem. If you do not impulsively react, if you are only patient, it will once again settle into its essential nature. When you have this understanding, then rising thoughts only enhance your practice. But when you do not understand what they intrinsically are—the radiance of the nature of your mind—then your thoughts become the seed of confusion. So have a spacious, open, and compassionate attitude toward your thoughts and emotions, because in fact your thoughts are your family, the family of your mind. Before these arisings of thoughts and emotions, as Dudjom Rinpoche used to say: “Be like an old wise man, watching children at play.” ~ Sogyal Rinpoche 'Thoughts & Emotions '

Welcome to TTB. I know a member named steve practices dream yoga and there are aspects of it in the system i practice, though i am not experienced in it. http://www.thedaobums.com/forum/55-steve/

I heard John Chang had some sort of dream about his teacher warning him to be more hidden after he shared some demonstrations in front of a news crew. In general it seems smart to listen to your teacher. Even more so if you are being taught things easily misunderstood by modern culture. Pst, hey everyone! There's a chest of gold in bluefire's backyard!!!!

Hello Drakpa Donyi, and welcome. Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go. Please take the time to read the two posts pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum terms and rules. This covers all you need to know when getting started. For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day. Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you, Marblehead and the TDB team Hi Drakpa, I have no knowledge of Dream Yoga but I'm think you might find some who have. You are welcome to jump right in ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forms to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started. May you enjoy your time here. Marblehead

Hello, i have been practicing Dream Yoga for over thirty years, i just found this forum and would like to know members that share this practice, i live in Mexico City and love to share experiences with other practitioners. blessings, Drakpa.

Fear that you won't even be taken to the world of afterlife, but you wait long time with others similar to you who have nothing to pay for the boatman who would cross you over. You can only dream of grimreaper coming by personally...high hopes. It would be much easier to make Kim Jong Un bow to you.

I often wonder if dementia isn't a gift granted to us later in life. As I watch myself, and in particular my mother, lapse into more and more forgetfulness, there arises a loss of clinging to memory, upon which to base assumption and the basis for further developed karma. The exception to this would be the paranoia that the elderly with dementia can sometimes develop; I see it in my mother. But she has never given a thought to the fact that her life has been a self created 'story'; once this is realized, then we can develop the control to not engage our stories, and in fact not create them in the first place. So her paranoia grows. But the good thing about it, is that a few minutes later she'll forget all about the thing she was paranoid about. I find myself telling myself several times during the day that 'this is just a story'. I tell myself that when I feel a loss of confidence, or a moment of fear about doing something. It takes all the fear or loss of confidence out of the situation - to realize that our attitudes about fear, or rejection, or judgment are just that - they are just stories, our attitudes. A constant mind-stream of a self-created life that is merely a lucid dream of our own projection. A dream within a dream. And now the Pokemon app has people looking down at their gizmos, walking all over the place looking for virtual critters on their little screens, being unaware of anything but what is happening on their device, and living in yet another virtual reality. A dream within a dream within a dream. Wow.

for reassurance living in the lucid dream wake up to the Now

Psychoanalysis is a set of Psychological and Psychotherapeutic set of theory and associated techniques. It is all about the client's unconsciously stored memories which can be manifested actually, or in dreams. Psychoanalyic approach studies Personality Organization and the dynamics of Personality Development that guides Psychoanalysis. This theory according to Freud, explains human behavior. Logic and Intellect is not a part of this theory because the patient shares data that is not measurable, verifiable, or consistant because is unconsciously experienced. Example, If I ask you the color of your mother's eyes, you probably will not remember and therefore not answer immediatedly. There will be a hesitation on your part. This hesitation is your pre-conscious...tip of the tongue stuff, if you will. But if I ask you what the color of your eyes are you will answer because you are consciously aware of this at all times. However, if you tell me about a dream you been having over a long period of time and do not know what it means, I would be able to help you resolve this problem because I have been taking notes and remembering your telling me about your struggles and conflicts. I will help you interpret your dream by helping you connect the dots. In psychoanalysis, there is a "a hah" moment. Freudians think that moment resolves the conflict. The other reason Psychoanalysis is not logical/ intellect is because it is the patient's subjective reporting. Now if you want to talk logic/intellect look at Cognitive/Behavioral Therapy e.g. Albert Ellis's Rational/Emotive Theory. Now if you want measurable look Experimental Psychology, Test and Measurement, Statistics etc.

Freud did not use logic/intellect. His patient laid there on a couch and "freely associated" meaning whatever came into their mind they talked about it. Freud used alot of dream analysis, and symbolic intrepretation based around the struggle between the id, ego, and super ego. His theory was that people are sexually driven and always in conflict with and controled by their id. He also gave his patient's Cocaine to help them. That was not a logical thing to do to their nervous system. He was a "coke" user as well.

Dear Andrei and Cheya, ​ Thank *both* of you so much for replying! I have pretty serious spinal stenosis, from (a botched) surgery damage, with resulting severe arthritis damage to my lower back. I've been in an electronic wheelchair for about 9 years now. I need more surgery, but after my experiences with surgeries gone bad, I'm *very* reluctant to try that route again. But eventually, it may not be my *choice*. Time will tell. It's funny, when I dream, I'm STILL walking, and running. This is a long ways from my former life as a backpacker, and a mountaineer..........."but when life gives you lemons"............you know the rest. I had never even THOUGHT to look on You Tube for sitting Tai Chi, and sitting Qi Gong, I so much appreciate those links and I will go find some more really soon. I had cruised through every Daoist/Taoist forum on the web, and found *nothing* about this subject! Again, thank you both so much for your help! Peace, Differently Abled Daoist P.S. I still hold out HOPE for complete healing, but each year it seems (sometimes) more distant.

Oh my God Karl. Your medical complaints are remarkable for the image of the man I communicate with. 60 sounds young to me, so I am not thinking that you could have medical problems. My wife's fear of death is the dying and the pain involved. Her plan is to commit suicide. Mine is to committ suicide. We both don't want to go through pain and loneliness. I have a client who is a Certified Nursing Assistant who recommends Helium, a hose, and a pastic bag. Painless. Forget about Nursing homes and having to wait for my wife to come up and visit me. Forget bed pans. Give me Vicodin and it will be bearable. But it is a controled substance, so you know that they will not give you more if you ask for it. My Dad kept pushing the liquid Morphine Button in the Hospital. Nothing came out. By then he wasn't the Man I knew. He was a dope fiend and dying from Metastic Prostate Cancer. I sold my Rolex to pay for part of my wife's wedding band. I bought the Rolex for 2 Grand and sold it for 2 Grand. The Rolex wasn't me. Plus I was nervous wearing in areas that I went into. Felt like I had target on my back. Now I don't wear a watch at all. That ear sound is Tinnitis. I have a mild case of it. They say it is age related and could be from a circultory problem, or ear injury. My doctor offered to give me a Rx Sedative. I refused. Did not want to become dependent on it. There is a visual test that was sent to me that can determine if there is early on-set Altzheimers. I could pass it on to you Karl, through your email address. If you are seeing a counselor, ask him to give you a Mini Mental Exam. This measures for cognitive deficits. I have border line HP and Border Line Diabetes. It runs in my family on Mom's side. I am controlling both with exercise. Fearing spiders is natural. I just had a dream about a few the other night. Creepy...one came after me after I mutilated it. It morphed into something else, and threatened me. Spiders in dreams are about being the manipulator, or being manipulated. I interpret dreams for my client(s). They think it is interesting and fun. That would suck if I could not smell. Have you tried brushing your tongue with a tooth brush. That might help you taste better.

An update on the noise issue: the Tao was giving me the answer right in front of me--be one with the noise by creating my own. I just threw my hands up one day and turned the volume full blast for Om Mani Padme Hum on my iPad before beginning FPQG. That dealt with 95% of all the crazy noise in Manila from my apartment and allowed full concentration free of sudden distraction or upset...and then I had a dream of meeting and having tea with Sifu Terry. Having done this now for a few days, I can definitely say the benefits of the first standing and seated meditations created a calm and healing effect that led to a presence my students and patients noticed even before treating them. (Side note: I teach other styles, definitely not FPQG). Thank you again Sifu Terry and the Doo Wai family and the spirits who bequeathed the gift of Flying Phoenix--I want to give more back because I feel I've ripped off Sifu Terry and the system by paying as low as I did for the DVDs when these are great treasures so priceless that I can't even comprehend how much I owe for this privilege of practicing it.

Hi this is so intriguing and interesting. Yin overload? Dream state? I don't know about that. Actually the thought clearly comes into my head. Like last week as soon as the vibrations came I knew for a fact I was going to see my late father and there he was, in living detail, as real as he ever was. I never feel dreamy in fact I am wide awake and bright and clear because it is usually interesting and I don't want to miss anything. I am never foggy and in fact I feel more awake and aware. Hyperaware if you know what I mean. I have had this while awake and moving. Like when there are entities who are looking at me. I sense them and make the switch in a flash. No-one seems to notice me "going". And sure as anything the person or even possibly the moving mist/cloud, is there. Now I am starting the qi gong and want to see what happens. I don't know when it is not possible as I try not to force as a rule. If I ever do make this into a practice, I do intend documenting the calendar of ability though. Why? you have roused my curiosity. Please feel free to pm as I don't want to hijack the thread.

Hi Astral_Butterfly, do you enter into a dream state while in trance? like you will see a landscape and then can tune into it and it becomes a lucid dream? maybe its because of yin/water overload in head, you can become hypnagogic easily. How about entering trance outdoors in nature, well rested? or in a postion of where you are standing(a position where you are having a effort)? If also your awareness is in a body, have you tried to enter trance? Can you provide more diverse information about your trance and how you enter them and when it is easier t o enter and what days or circumstances you are not able to, please.

Yes, off topic thread wise but not off topic concept wise. And yes, the dream is realistic and doable. Such things have been done in the USA but most have failed for one reason or another. Mostly by getting government's attention. And having single ownership would be the ideal with minimum standards for all who wish to live such a life style. Most places in Aussieland get plenty of sun so solar would be a very efficient way to get energy. Water might be a problem for you depending on where you establish yourself. I'm fortunate that I live in a very conservative county here in Florida where drugs and violence are kept to a minimum. Well, If you own the house that is an asset you could use for your new place. And too, if you set it up as a corporation you could sell stock in the place as long as you remember to keep at least 51% ownership of the place. Our dreams sometimes do come true if we work hard enough for them to materialize.