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Hi Nikolai, Some use their present existence to argue about not existing ... I say use their present existence to exist fully! This self has an issue with those who propose the illusion of self. The I am presence in me declares that the ego, like the mind, the body, the spirit be vehicles to care, develop, maintain. and more... To those who propose the believe that i should deny itself (by claiming the I is an illusion), I would say, that they fallen for the illusion of development that keeps them from developing. What be ironic is that they would likely say that I be a victim of the illusion that keeps me from developing. Personally I find these illusions entertaining, though I find the realities more rewarding. So what do we want to focus on and cultivate? this or that illusion OR this and that REALITY! It may well be that I be dreaming the dream of me and you being real and need to awaken, then again maybe this dream is actually real and determines once and for all what each chooses to be for evermore... I say, be it a dream, be it real, always choose the better way, and make the experience the perfect experience! Why would one be concerned if one come to an impasse of personal demise, after that moment one be no more ... be concerned if one comes to an impasse and freely chooses to be no more, rather than to be a bit more... this means to always strive to love, care, develop, maintain, learn, grow, live a bit more... rather than cease to be altogether. Note that "chooses to be no more" is quite different different from 'choose to be what one currently is"... recognize and keep this distinction. Thinking that "chooses to be no more" refers to "appreciate and be contempt to be what one be by choosing to keep it rather than trading if for something else" distracts the thinker from the intended meaning. There are many ways to view stuff some of these will help you see with clarity and some will obscure the point by appearing to clarify something else. Know what be and what can be always choosing the better ways to be.

Yes, everything is the Mind. Identity is thought construct when there is a dual perspective arising. Such as "I am the body" and "you are the other body." There is nothing to label, because you are already it, and you can only BE it. When in a dream, you marry, become wealthy, have children, grow old, but then suddenly wake up, can you say that the world in which you have lived in the dream is real? Or not real? Where did the characters in your dream come from? The thought that each mind-stream depends on others for survival is very tricky. My answer to that is that there are only imprints of other realities that take form in our own mind. I gave the example of a tree. The tree rises in your own mind because your mind has attained the ability to create it. Actually it is the only thing it knows how to create: a human entity living in a human world. The tree essence, its characteristics and such, exists. But no tree is found. Only the idea is entertained. No there is no Godhead. All there is is you, and I. The idea of a Godhead can be there, and that will be the reality you project as your mind transitions into a newer state of creation. I can't project my ego onto reality. Reality is my ego. I hold all the Buddhist methods to be valid. They are to deconstruct the illusion within the dream. So is Compassion, so is Selflessness. All this too is dreampt up by the mind in order to become Awake into a state of total potential and complete freedom. No longer chained by its own creations, the servant ceases to be the master.

After much thought on the concept of D.O., the meaning of causes and conditions, I'm beginning to entertain these ideas. Please criticize. 1) The notion of cause and conditions comes from the act of distinction. What exactly is the cause in any perceived event? Wouldn't it not purely be of the mind's own distinction? And don't our actions and choices arise from such illusions? The boundary between cause and effect is non-existent except within the illusionary perception of the mind. Our perception creates our habits which in turn formulates our choices. All conditions, all phenomena is therefore said to be of the Mind. 2) When one looks to the source of this Mind--of all actions, of all acts of human cognition and reflection, one will find the sense of identity. This is the "I" thought. The grasping of a self. Most people believe this to be within the body as the brain, glands, energies, etc. But in the investigation of the location of the "I" ness, one finds that it is no where, that all rising phenomena within consciousness/experience is itself the "I." Fragmentation of experience is all of the mind's illusionary concepts of boundaries and distinctions. In reality, there is only the Mind. But due to the illusion of causes and conditions, people create their own Karmas and suffer through them. They create their own identities within the dream, as the body, and cycle through their own Perceptions. All phenomena is therefore said to be dreamlike. 3) Free will. If all things arise due to causes and conditions, or parts and fragments, why is it that there is a sense of free will? When I say free will, I am pointing towards the Creative urge. To create, do, evolve, be happy, move, etc. all point to this same arising movement of energy. The basic nature to Create comes from what exactly? More importantly, why does one want to Create? What exactly does it mean to Create something? After all, isn't everyone here because they feel that there is greater potential to their existence beyond the current body and mind? That they can make the apparent choice to transform themselves? To Create a newer reality? What exactly is this? To Create implies a Creator. One's identity, the center point, wherever it may be, is the source of Creation. One can only Create from that identity (For most people, it is through the body and the mind). When there are no causes and conditions, no locality of self, what is the source of Creation? It arises from one's very own Mind, Free Will, and Intent. All phenomena is experienced through the way one grasps onto an identity within one's own Creation. It is the dreamer clinging onto a dream identity, and suffering from the imagined "causes and conditions". He/she lives and dies in his own Mind and it's own rules. Our path is then to rid of the illusionary identity and to return to the state of an absolute Creator (Now, I don't want to say God, since that word carries so many connotations). It is the very essence of the Mind to Create, to Dream, and to revel in its own Creation. To be virtuous, playful, cling, liberate, or whatever action you imagine arise from no where except one's own Mind. There is no other, but "I." Heaven and Earth are "I," the Tao is the "I," "I" am both God and the Devil. This "I" ness, this Creative consciousness is "I." It is ever dynamic and it's abilities are infinite. Everything is created from My energy and creativity. In fact, Everything IS my energy and creativity. There is nothing within Creation that is not "I." (Please note this is very different from Advaitia's Brahma) 4) Then, obviously, who are "You"? I am not you and you are not me. You are a different "I," a whole different universal creation itself. I am only a part of your world as a reflective essence and that reflective essence is simply your own perception. For example, "you" cannot kill "me." It is impossible. The killing would only take place within your own delusion of a self conceived body killing another self-conceived body. The "I" you see is nothing but your own self, something in your own dream. But can you Create from nothing? Do you remember ever Creating "me" consciously? Most likely not. Here we run into the question on the meaning of Creation. Can anything truly be created originally out of nothing? No, it cannot. The artist cannot paint without a subject, the brush, and colors. He draws inspiration from his perception, and likewise, I can only Create through "other." And in this way, we are all "connected." I am in everyone and everyone is in me. The key word in the phrase is "in." The stress must be put on "one" in the word "everyone," because if we say "I am everything" the phrase can suppose an objective universe. This is not so, since everything is subjective. "I" am the Creator, and "you" are the paint, the paint brush, the paper, the mountains (Technically, the true Self is the process of creation. Again, you are your experience and your experience is determined by intent). The tools are as infinite as there are infinite number of beings and universes. Compassion is a means to attain the tools, and Wisdom is the road to Perfection. So when we cultivate, we are cultivating our Creation, not simply our bodies within an outside thing called the world. And this way, your light will be reflected in everyone. .

What we refer to as our "unconscious" mind is 95% of all the "mind" we have, or at least 95% of all our brain activity (cultivation and deep work of the "know thyself" kind changes this ratio, to an extent ranging from quite modest to total), so no wonder it's smart. I'm talking about qi though, and the "proprietary" type of it (a Chinese astrology notion) participating in (or taking total control of, as the case may be) the type of dreams we experience. Wuxing is the Five Phases (translated by some as "elements" in the Western tradition) or Five Types of qi interacting to create a human "bodymindspirit" -- Water, Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal. A "proprietary" phase is the type, the phase, that is your "type" much like "brunette or blonde," "blue eyes or brown," "black skin or pink," are your physical type, but of course it, being your "qi type," encompasses more than your physicality -- your mentality, your emotionality, and your destiny. So, this is one thing it does: it manifests what it is in your dreams. (People trained in assorted ways to "read" wuxing phases see them in all kinds of human manifestations -- appearance, behavior, illnesses and accidents, lucky breaks and good fortune, and also dreams, among other things.) A "fire mudra" is what you described as the "praying position" with hands brought together and pointing up. (People are told to pray and shown hands put together like that but they are not told that this is the way you pray to Fire manifestations -- the sun up in the sky or, its later interpretation by the church, Father in Heaven, or any and all upward-mobility-based, ascension-driven ideas.) Qi phases of wuxing are directional in their motion: Fire ascends, Water descends, Wood expands, Earth rotates, Metal contracts. Hands together pointing up symbolize Fire qi -- pyramid, triangular, up-pointing shapes are all Fire symbols. Your dream-mind knows that, so you guide your dream flight by using this mudra as the propelling, steering and navigation mechanism. If you didn't have Fire for either your proprietary or your dominant (they don't always coincide) phase, you wouldn't have these dreams, much like if you didn't have female organs, you wouldn't be a woman, and if you had more melanin in your skin, you wouldn't be "white," and so on. It's just a version of the human geno-, pheno-, phreno-, etc., -type. Yup. And I, Wood with Fire, never have flying dreams -- the only way Wood can fly (with few exceptions for a different conversation) is catch on Fire and go up in smoke... my dream body avoids this scenario to the same extent a 2-year-old who has burned her hand on the stove learns to avoid sticking her hand into the fire -- for the rest of her life. However, I can be "anywhere" and even "everywhere" in my dreams without flying there -- I just do what Wood does to be everywhere (Wood qi does not just manifest plants, it manifests all biological entities): expand.

All perceptions are similar to a dream ~ Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche At present we perceive samsara as something we have to reject and nirvana as something we have to attain. Now while this is correct according to relative truth, according to absolute truth the nature of the afflictive emotions and actions that we are supposed to reject is nothing other than emptiness. When we realize the dharmakaya, which is free from true existence, we will know that all perceptions are similar to a dream or an illusion and we will no longer crave these phenomena. As it is said, 'While there is attachment, there is no view.' And the absence of attachment is the supreme view.

If someone like Max continues this practice well, he will eventually reach the entry point of the first stage, there are many name (Dhyana, Samadhi, etc.). I'm not versed on all the Buddhist terms, not something we discuss in Dzogchen openly, but anyway, the mind will become absorbed in the Shen to a greater degree and he will begin to go so deeply into meditation that the breath and the heart beat stop. This is actual meditation, or at least we can say it's beyond one pointed consentration. Everything else is considered a preperation for this state. It's quite remarkable to think that we can train the mind to let go to this degree. At this stage, some people begin to develop abilities powers, most of it useless. Also it is extremely important to have a master to guide you, as you may well know; thoughout this process, at least in every tradition I have been exposed to. The practitioner will be confronted by many demons/obstecals; personal, imagined, whatever. It's a dangerous process at this level that just illustrates all the more the importance and benifit of having a guide. This is just a higher degree of BE HERE NOW. Which isn't a concept that can be fully apreciated until you understand what this process really entails. It's a true letting go. The body is of course clincally alive even though no machine or device would find a pulse or detectable breath, there are many stories of meditators being buried alive. Some of that have studied with the HT know that Chia's teachers teacher was a yogi who would leave his body for months at a time to go deeply into the Shen and refine the immortal fetus. Sadly the knowledge of those practices do not make up what we now know as the HT. Think about the word ego. It meens the sense that 'I' exist. But who are we really? Are we this body? No. Are we this mind? No. We or 'I' is only a dream. Who is having this dream? The Shen. The true nature of your mind. The Bodhi mind. To really let go or to really be here now is to be one with the Shen and one with your true nature. Who here has reached this state? I want to introduce a little Buddhist philosophy. I'm not enlightened or anything. But this exercise is just to illustrate a point. So this raises the question, what about this body? What about this mind? They are the result of your thinking only, they are the illusion created by grasping. I am my body and I am in control, is just a dream. So how do we get to the real us? Letting go. But, just wanting to let go is not enough. We have to direct the dream. This is the gift of the dreamer. The ability to change the dream. In the whole universe, there is one remote control; that is your thinking. Change your thinking and the whole universe will change. How hard is it to change your thinking? Very, very hard. Like chopping down a mountain with the back of your hand. All Daoist practice is the art of directing the mind to it's source. The master or guru or teacher is at the source, shining the lamp that will point the way. That's all. Nothing fancy or anything to get excited about. But for those souls who are ready to take that journey the master simply provides a road map showing the way. The student in turn must have complete trust and faith in the masters abilities and put his life in the masters hands, not an easy thing to do. That is why the master shows his true nature only to those who are ready and only to those who are willing to let go. Again this goes for all traditions, and even applies whether your master is another human being, or just Dao or God for the truly fortunite ones to have such a grand relationship. This whole thing is not about creating fear and having power. Any master worth the name knows that. But this idea of complete surrender is something that happens way down the line in your practice and development. Very few are really ready to take on such a task. And many who do fail and the ego takes over again. When theis happens and the student has developed some powers, it can spell big trouble for the student. Especially if those powers are missused. You can imagine. One of John Chang's students, not that John is enlightened, was kicked out of the school for winning hundred of thousands of dollars gambling. He was using his gifts to make money which is strictly forbiddon is Mo Pai. I had to take this oath myself and I can tell you they take it very seriously. Or even worse, people get hurt or the student himself gets killed. It's also a good point to make that the masters have no judgements about those who don't wish to be involved in such endeavors. At least the ones who are genuine. A simple life lived well is worth a thousand lives of reckless striving for enlightenment. Anyway, good points on all sides in this discussion. I would say, if you are going for Daoist cultivation, get a teacher. And, if not, just enjoy life. Either way you are bound to have good times and bad and either way you are probably coming back a few more times at least. As the Dali Lama says, just be good.

It's great, but I haven't noticed a happiness link... hm true perhaps it is easier to direct ones will when the inner state isn't heavy / inner state is lighter than air I had a dream specifically in relation to this some time ago haha I used to dream of flying all the time when I was a child as I got older and the world started to weigh me down the flying seem to cease I remember in the dream trying to generate positive emotions to lift up my spirit so to speak love travels at the speed of light? or faster? haha // happiness, delight, peace my experience anyhow

The gangster dream is fun. In both the gangster dream and the dream where the white dog is looking in the window, both indicate that you're waiting or watching for something to come at you. Initially you were afraid, in both cases - both with the dog and with the gangsters. Your feelings of regret at not having been friendlier to the dog (perhaps alluding here to your relationship with your father?) are matched by your later willingness to go to McDonalds with the gangster, overcoming your fear to some degree. It sounds to me as if you have something coming up to deal with; perhaps something to do with your fear of mental instability in some way. I don't think the appearance of that particular friend with the mental illness was an accident. It's as though the fellow with the football is inviting you to 'play' the game - particularly with the special ball 'for indoor use'. This means that you will be playing on your inner field. I'd start with your relationship with your dad, if you're willing. Most likely, if you're like the rest of us, there is stuff there for you to look at, get angry over, forgive - and your dreams are bringing whatever it is imminently to the fore for your continued growth. It's helpful on the inner journey to remember that we're all Victims of Victims of Victims - so we needn't get too hung up in too much blame for very long

Here “brain” likely is a mistranslation. He means “mind”. And the “light” is light of awareness. Ramana was awakened in a flash when he was 16 years old. He didn’t have to sit in meditation for 14 years for that btw. He is explaining the process of waking world, dream world and causal nescience, as explained in the Mandukya Upanishad.

The dream is often used as an analogy to the process of creation whereby the "One becomes many". Do you view individuals as separate entities or as parts of a whole. Therein lies the answer to your question "in who's brain".

Same night/day I had a dream that ended with me going to sleep in the dream and then a woman idly staring at me, like looking through me, and she made very weird eye movements, and then my vision unfocused (interesting that this can happen in a dream) and her eyes became one and a deep, eerie chanting voice began, and when I tried to focus, her eyes drifted apart again, and then with a slight flockering my whole vision turned grey and I heard myself make panicked noise and struggled to wake up into waking perception. After that, my crown/third eye region felt like during an ayahuasca trip. I didn't have a nightmare for many years, but this felt like one. Whatever initiated this - probably not a good idea to try and break through barriers like that during sleep.

Reality is a misnomer, illusions and delusions are just as 'real' and have just as much effect on things as anything else, so waking up is more like growing up, or becoming more in line with the Tao, God's plan, whatever you like to call it. So syncing with the Tao is maybe what some would call waking up to Reality. It as if ones own limited schemas are being replaced constantly, through a series of emptying and filling. The sooner you can empty your old schemas and truly be aware, the sooner you can awake. We all are constantly doing this, just at different rates. Those who have learned 24/7 'meditation' have simply learned not to create/re-create/reify schemas....the end of schemas is the end of the dream. Not to knock the dream, it is certainly a part and parcel of the Isness, but the ones who wake up truly are freed from delusion eternally, unless they so choose to enter it again, which I think some might, because eternity is a long time, and Gods do like to play!

I have always felt the "goal" of Taoism is enlightenment. Only the enlightened know what that means. The rest of us are chasing a dream "on faith" (to borrow a Christian concept) and have no idea what we're actually searching for.

Remake, can you draw a camel on a piece of paper ? Well how do you know what it looks like ? Obviously something inside you knows. Do you imagine anything ? Where does this take place ?? Do you dream ?

I think what you're saying is completely fair and should be noted in the minds of all students sitting with teachers or potential teachers. We definitely shouldn't put down critical thinking when it comes to any of this. In my case, the teacher wasn't taking a position on lucid dreaming at all. It had nothing to do with lucid dreaming and everything to do with my selfish motivation and arrogant disposition. I probably could have been more clear about that in my original post.. I do concur that sitting practice seems to play its part in manifesting the experience of lucid dreams. I also think that mindfulness off the cushion plays its part. I think these things because I have never actively tried to be lucid during dream time, it just happens. I resonate with your statement that it takes years to understand what they say. I wonder if you seek that understanding actively (e.g. journal, contemplation, etc.)? If so, has that been valuable? In my case, I don't write about or actively contemplate them. I do find that they spontaneously appear back in consciousness, sometimes years later, as either confirmation to a new understanding or as additional information that leads to a new or more expansive understanding.

Just watching an interview with the very beautiful and lovely Grace Kelly. I am sure every young woman would have dreamt of being her, a princess, and young men dream of being the biggest oak tree in the forest. Why am I not .... that ? Well I think it's like when you start a new job and you feel very uncertain about what you are doing, you check yourself, doubt yourself, compare yourself. But later when you get into the idea then you just do the job and feel good, go home with money in your pocket and eat well and sleep well. So it's the same thing for us. What is our job ? To be who God made us. We don't quite feel who we are, we are new in this job and get pushed around by society that tries to find a place for us .... when we do find out who we are, we feel ourselves inside, and can unfold ourselves. Then we don't have to worry about anything. We have been made, somehow, and that is our job to be that one.

Thanks for sharing. I started to have lucid dreams by just doing a lot of sitting meditation every day. was not trying to have lucid dreams. As I have stated a few times in the past, from what I have experience, and seen in others, the simple act of sitting meditation, can help folks have spontaneous lucid dreams. My journey with Tibetan dream and sleep yoga, was discovered after starting to have lucid dreams, so have no idea if it would have helped me at first or not. I have found a couple of valuable techniques in Tibetan yoga, such as bringing consciousness to the throat chakra right before sleep, and also they have a version of what the western lucid dreamers call, W.I.L.D or waking induced lucid dreaming, where one just looks at the images in the closed eye lids, before sleep, not trying to see anything, just a kind of meditation. with all that said. one of the things I have seen in folks who want to learn how to have lucid dreams, is the very act of trying to do it. kind of like trying to not think during meditation. the very thing that is trying, is the thing that is blocking. but that is only my experience, other folks might have other experiences.

Yes, it is the important part of both that and the Butterfly Dream. Darkstar, you'll have to forgive me...I tend to need to figure things out through discussion etc, but after all that, I realize that I basically agree with Moeller's premise. Though something tells me others won't be so convinced.. Wuhua is well-translated as "the transformation/changing of things", but yes, refers to the cycle of life and death. Whether or not we want to interpret other mentions of wuhua as reincarnation, in this case I don't think we can go so far as to suggest that Zhuang Zhou is being literally reincarnated as a butterfly when he dreams. That would be a little bizarre even for ZZ. 昔者莊周夢為胡蝶 Once, Zhuang Zhou dreamt of being a butterfly,1 栩栩然胡蝶也 Vividly just that, a butterfly, 自喻適志與 Completely at peace with itself, 不知周也 Unaware of Zhuang Zhou.*1 俄然覺則蘧蘧然周也 Suddenly he awoke, and it gradually dawned on him that he was Zhuang Zhou.2 不知周之夢為胡蝶與 He did not know if Zhuang Zhou had dreamt of being a butterfly,*2 胡蝶之夢為周與 Or the butterfly was dreaming of being Zhuang Zhou. 周與胡蝶則必有分矣 Between Zhuang Zhou and a butterfly, there must be a difference! 此之謂物化 This is called the Transformation of Things.3 1 It is explicitly Zhou dreaming, once upon a time, of being a butterfly 2 He comes to this realization slowly -- I am assuming that he remembers, at least in part, his dream, and is a little confused *1 The use of 不知 means that the current subject is unaware of the other -- in this case, the butterfly is unaware of ZZ *2 The current subject is unaware/does not know -- in this case, ZZ does not know whether he is a butterfly or vice versa 3 Or, the Inseparability of Things, or the (Life and) Death of Things, etc

Last night my thinking about imperfectionism continued in my sleep and so I dreamed about it. I was searching for some kind of solution or answer. And as no rational answer was forthcoming, I took a look at Chinese mythology. There I found a deity or something that had to do with imperfectionism and the way to deal with it, but I don't remember its name. Anyhow, in my dream I put in endless time to look up books about Chinese mythology, but still no answer was forthcoming. Waking up I thought about the Zwarte Piet-discussion in this country (I live in the Netherlands) that is slowly escalating year by year. And then I suddenly realised that our own effects on the world at large (whatever one's position) are negligible. (At this point some people might resort to violence to get their way, but that often doesn't work either and brings huge cost in terms of human suffering.) So we are stuck with essentially two possible choices: (1) You either accept the world at large as it is (including the minute effect of your own dealings with it); or (2) You go down a cynical road of pessimist rumination and ruin your own remaining pleasure in simply being alive. So paradoxically the answer I was searching for resides in accepting that there is no answer. We just have to accept the world (at large) as it is, and make the best of it within our own minute space of possibilities.

There are many different meditation techniques that help in LD. And a lot more that actually help you to sleep in dreamless states. Despite the fascinating name, Tibetan dream yoga doesn't work for LD in my experience.

I find Dream and Sleep Yoga practices immensely valuable and satisfying. Like Zen Pig says, you need a lot of patience but better not to take it too seriously, better to be a little playful. If we're going to spend 1/3 of our lives asleep, why not choose lucidity over ignorance?

By the way, today is the first day of Glidewing`s Tibetan Dream Yoga workshop with Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche. https://www.glidewing.com/twr/dreamyoga_home.html

Just testing out one of those crazy, far-fetched and unanswerable questions, as our brains so love doing. Do you think it is possible for God to become a Self-Aware autonomous entity within you? For a moment while meditating, I felt like I “retracted” into myself and remembered who I was. I then spoke to myself (in my own voice, in my own mind). The voice said (I said) “Hey, this is God. This is one of those rare moments that I’m aware of myself as God, as I remember that I chose to incarnate through you, this being. Hehe. Anyway, back to being you!” ..and Zoop, and it was over. And there I was, thinking I had another one of those useless far-out moments. Then I thought, damn, here’s the thing. The truth is that this is actually pretty plausible (that I am God, that we all are). We are all in a collective hallucination of pretending that we are not God. The most important thing in our modern day culture is that people take themselves as absolutely seriously as they can in their separate identities. While general quality of life for all has gone up, it seem to be more entrenched in maya (illusion) than ever. People feel compelled to destroy each others lives over words and labels. If we could all see ourselves as God, there would be no more wars. However, the kind of shift in thinking is so radical, even if it is a closer approximation to reality than our normal, every day waking egos. I don’t think we would stop taking ourselves seriously if we all knew this. Seriousness has it’s place, however, we wouldn’t take taking things seriously so seriously. It is thought that this is how people used to live in India a long time ago, as well as how people in tribal cultures still live. Animals see reality more clearly than humans. They don't have all of these competitive and hierarchical maps in their mind that makes them compulsively re-arrange their entire lives, and feeling neurotic because the world does not comply to the demands of their imagined world. Animals don't have any problems. They are living in just one world. Us, we live in two worlds at once, the real world and the imagined world. Side thought: we are addicted to our identities, regardless of what is going on in our life, good or bad. We do not want to let go of our identity, because there is always a pleasure aspect to it. For instance, I get happy and giddy at the thought that “I am me”. I like how my body feels. I wouldn’t want to be suddenly torn into a billion pieces and returned to the collective energy field. I wouldn’t mind it, but I’m saying that i want to enjoy this thing here too while I’m here. That’s what God said, he said man, I just want to enjoy this thing while I’m there, and have a great old time. If I can’t do that, that’s fine too. Either way, it’ll be great when I wake up. The question is, how many times do you need to wake up? Also, is there a dream that God himself must wake up from? Thank you for taking the time to read. I love you and have an amazing day, if you can. If not, that’s okay too, you are still loved.

Lol i gotta say, I havn't been breathing any green light! Maybe I didn't get there yet. It is working really well for me, I am meditating with the Tibetan A each morning, and am trying to truly experience the dream like qualities of reality. Most of the concepts were kind of alien for me too, but I found if I took it slow enough they would start to make sense. For some reason this book just really struck a chord with me, and throughout the day I think about concepts from it, which I think help me to assimilate them into the day to day. Probably the most rewarding and motivating factor about this book is...well, my dreams. I dream practically every night now! Most of them are vivid when I remember them, and although they arn't lucid yet, the amount of lucidity is growing every night. In the past two days I have begun dreaming in color, and I have never before dreamt in color. Such a break through. Practice helps alot, and with this book a lot of the practice is with your mind, being conscious and lucid, and really using your imagination to experience that this reality is a dream. Is there any way to know which threads you post on? Because I wish I would have gotten back to you sooner, I just never know what I post on.

1. Was Lao Tzu, Hui Neng, Saraha, or even Paul Brunton sages? They were all listed above. reportedly scolded his monks for spending too much time sitting in meditation....He said that meditation is unnecessary, and warned that such practice can easily become a narcotic. 2. Let's be anal,...what is "exist"....it means to Stand Alone. What Stands Alone? Let's say you're sleeping,...in the dream the dreamer is thinking. Does that mean the dreamer exists? What's the difference between a dream while sleeping, and dream of being awake? Who is doing the dreaming? The Thinker? LOL Lao Tzu said, "Recognize that eveything you see and think is a falsehood, an illusion, a veil over the truth." So,...is "thinking" true? It is actually quite simple to prove that thinking is always false. Just try to think in the present,...it cannot be be done,...never, ever. LOL Thinking is always false,...so then how does "i think" therefore I Am? No authority is needed except you. Not the you that you "think" you are, but the you that you are. Stop making it complicated,...it's not. V