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thanks for the encouraging words steve, it is also very beneficial for me to go over these thoughts again and get some imput from other practicioners - my root lama is very much emphasising "the words of my perfect teacher" as the backbones of it all so to speak and once in a while will see if I actually remember the four thoughts in the correct order and can explain them - so I try not to get into trouble on some level (fear based level?) anyway I liked what you wrote very much as well, and it is true and good to remember that I am RT and not Jetsun Milarepa - if i try to be Milarepa probably within three months I have such a horrible Lung-disorder that the rest of the year I need to be a vegetable forgotten on the beach anyhow these teachings are very profound, more profound then they sound and look. They really do transform the mind - maybe not in a nice and pleasant way for some (for me it was a bit hard at the beginning for sure). I feel that psycho-spiritual growth is painful sometimes, but worth the effort. Now how that process is started and unfolds might be disimilar in different systems, but in essence transformation is challenging - and as far as I know, no heros without challenges lets continue with the 10 riches they are further seperated into two sets of five the first five are called something like "the five individual riches" 1) being born a human 2) with all senses intact (means so that there is a possibility to study and practice the dharma, being blind is not a problem, but maybe blind, deaf and mute simultaniously, unless past karma does the trick - and the being just remembers it all and is a natural meditative genius) 3) being born in a central land 4) gaining my lifelyhood in accord with the dharma - or not following wrong livelihood 5) having faith in the teachings the second pair is called "the five circumstancial riches" 1) a buddha appeared 2) thought the dharma 3) his teachings are still existing 4) there are followers who uphold the teachings 5) spiritual masters are guiding students I just explain randomly some of those 10 riches from the first five no.3 is interesting - being born in a central land, that means in a land where the buddhas teachings are present in both scriptural form and as realisation in the minds of practicioners also maybe no.4 needs some attention - not following wrong livelihood, in short a way of earning money that is not harming or exploiting other beings. Now without harm is impossible, thats one of the marks of existence - Dukkha, suffering and within that I think of the all pervasive suffering of compounded phenomena. the example that comes to mind is selling tea as a lifelihood: on first glimpse nothing negative and in accord with the dharma, but only on the first glimpse - because in order to sell tea one is partly responsible for the death of many insects, if it is imported from far away then that means certain negative effects on our planet, and probably some human beings get exploited along the way too so even selling tea is producing negative karma, and basically everything we do unless our motivation and mind is very pure I remember the first time I got a glimpse of what this means, I was in Nepal close to the great white Stupa in Boudhanath (Yarung Kashor in tibetan). I was contemplating those four thoughts daily for 30 minutes at least and I also did postrations either at home or next to the stupa. I had a pretty hard time with these four thoughts and accumulating prostrations, all of it in this strange alien land, and Kathmandu is one dirty polluted city, that didn't help either anyway I was listening to teachings of Tai Situ Rinpoche on the four thoughts, and Rinpoche explained this point of all pervasive suffering, that no matter what you do some negative karma slips in - it opened some sort of understanding (I read and thought about it daily for many months already, but sometimes it takes time to click on a deeper level) anyway that night I a had a dream of ordering a salat in one of the restaurants around the stupa - and I got the salat but when I looked closer I saw it was full of dead worms and insetcs, that didn't really shock me in the dream. I just accepted that this is part of this all pervasive suffering and indirectly I kill insects by ordering salat... since that time this part of the teachings is very easy to remember sounds all pretty dark and depressing, but actually it really was a big house cleaning - I know that now after looking back to those first years of practicing the preliminaries. I also remember that Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche said that reading the words of my perfect teacher and working with the material in there should make you depressed at the beginning otherwise its not doing its job now I am inspired by these thoughts, but yes thinking back on the beginning of working with them.... I was rather grumpy

I just write some personal thoughts here, this might or might not be part of the teachings, anyhow I found it helpful for my practice and understanding - so take it or leave it as you please renunciation seems to be a dreaded thing in the west - I even found it written in some western esoteric books, how we are notment to renounce but to conquer the manifest world... how we demand more life not less life etc. I think these are more or less the words of Dion Fortune. That statement is maybe true or maybe not true, personally I think its maybe her specific kind of colored glasses, and that mayhabs the great buddhist masters had another set of glasses on we don't want to renounce life, I guess we want it all: enlightenment plus chocolate icecream and so on - well why not actually? I think here is how renunciation gets confused for some sort of strange world denying ego trip. renunciation in the buddhist sense, is not a partial renounciation (but that is how it usually starts) - it is impartial and doesn't fall into any extremes the analogy is to be found in the Bodhisattvacharyavatara by Shantideva (I think I quote that text more then anything here) - I can't remember the exact quote but the meaning is something like that: there is a person having a beautiful dream - the dream reality is seemingly endless, years and years of bliss and happiness - and then the person wakes up there is another person having a horrific dream - the dream reality is seemingly endless, years and years of suffering and depression - and then the person wakes up this moment of waking up is the essential point - because in that moment both persons understand it was just a dream, also in that moment where are all this years of suffering and happiness? It is as if they never existed and in buddhism renunciation comes from realizing the union or appearance and emptiness - and it ment to lead back to that realisation if this dance of immaterial phenomena is just like a dream, then trying to be free of suffering and trying to be always happy makes not much sense - momentary happiness or momentary suffering are equally deceiving and just our ordinary dualistic vision to renounce only suffering or think somehow renounciation means to give up icecream is a very limited approach renounciation might mean to don't run around and do all sorts of things - but not because they are inherently negative or evil - just because there is no point in either samsaric happiness or samsaric suffering better to actualize non dual wisdom, and with that realisation then I think one will also "renounce" samsaric happiness and suffering once and for all - so we could call this great renunciation to contrast it with the small renounciation that is induced through contemplating these four thoughts now the small renounciation that we try to give rise to through contemplating the four thoughts, are like the door that will allow us to actually enter the teachings and finally actualize great renunciation - primordial wisdom or jnana or gnosis however you wanna translate or name it maybe that helps in putting buddhist renunciation into a better light?

Hi Jeff , can you explain why so certain it was a dream ? the 2 beings were when I was awake.

Dear Micheal, these contemplations serve a specific purpose, they are not the final wisdom of the buddhas and vidyadaras. Also not in how to work with and approach our embodied existence In the system I follow, you work on many levels - or yanas, without loosing sight of whats the essential point (non-dual wisdom), usually you have nine yanas to work with, and the teachings say that those nine yanas do not exist anywhere outside of your own spiritual development, you enter tantra once you are fit for tantra - before that you can only outwardly practice a certain method that looks like tantra and thats what most beings who call themselves dzogchenpas or tantrikas are doing (me not excluded) "the meditation and action follow the view" if you see the one taste of all phenomena beyond pure and impure, beyond delicious apple pie and not so delicious dog shit in short when both substances are equally tasty - then yes your meditation will be pretty powerful and your action free of probably any sort of social, paternal, or cosmic law and order... and then you really do practice the higher tantras (sounds weird, but yes vajrayana and dzogchen is out of the ordinary a little) now an accomplished tantric master, probably doesn't eat dog shit for lunch, but there is no limitations and if there is a necessity to display such crazy behaviour to wake up a disciple from their dualistic dream that sees good and bad ..... I jump around a lot the teachings of the 4 thoughts that turn the mind from samsara are more connected with renunciation and giving up distraction, or the teachings of the first three yanas - later more on distraction as I am reading the complete magical system of the G.D. and the mystical Quabalah atm, I do see similar patterns also within this tradition - even if you would like to jump you can't jump certain parts of the path - I somehow feel that the grades of initiation and working through the 9yanas are similar in approach, there is also a hierophant (the vajramaster) bestowing initiation/empowerment on certain cardinal points of the path. Ok back to the biscuits now maybe in the western esoteric tradition renunciation is not so much emphasized but in buddhism there is an emphasis on it. and somehow you work on that level for some time - or for a long time depending on your mind and karmic patterns. In the tibetan tradition big lamas with big money and an empire of monasteries and dharma centers are not unusual but if you ask the tibetans themselves - they have more faith and recpect for the simple yogis who spend their time in retreat and as wandering mendicants like patrul rinpoche would say: the cloth of the yogi is mountain mist and not brocade and many many teachings and teachers emphasize times of retreat - and for that you need renunciation, otherwise why be away from life and focus on spiritual development? there is much more interesting stuff going on. these four thoughts are in the context of making space and time for retreat - they put some fire underneath the adepts ass to get moving fast - where? move where? to enlightenment for the benefit of all life the good qualities of solitude are praised in many important sutras and shastras, and for the beginner retreat is very important to go deeper into the teachings and discover how this path is working and how ones own mind is working (or well not-working, an even more important discovery) for going deeper into these teachings one needs to be as littel distracted as possible... distraction is not in what is happening around us of course but in our minds - so a great yogi can be in the middle of the market and never loose sight of the essential point, do you remember the analogy of the different animals and how they relate to the adept? It is like in that analogy, there is a time of beeing a deer - away from the busyness of life, and there is a time for the lion, and madman there seems to be a transformation on the relative level of the mind, the mind gets more and more pure - so also phenomena become more and more pure and appear in their natural luminosity (mirroring the natural luminosity of mind). at that point phenomena are not a distraction but food for meditation, but as long as there is ceaseless habitual mental chatter and only rare glimpses of natural mindfulness - some time in retreat to focus on tantric practice might be not a bad idea after all. but here we discuss the entrance door to tantra, not so much tantra and tantric practice itself. so you know if you talk about the adeptus minor and the magus then those two beings are different and do different things - yet the magus can't just through away the knowledge that he or she unlocked in the lower grades - because they are not "lower", but foundational

Vivid dream.

I am familiar with multi-dimensional dream time experience but would love any opinions on this event that happened last night. I had trouble sleeping and drifted off about 5 am where I found myself in a dark space, barely lit and smoky. The souls here were lost and full of hopelessness and despair. A male tried to have sexual contact with me then a woman appeared who had died from cancer. She had been an attractice woman when she was alive but now her bones showed where once there had been flesh and where the cancer had been was black tendrills coming in and out of her body , it almost looked like a giger painting. It was as if She still seemed to think she was that attractice living lady. A dog was wandering round with its skin looking like dried hide and parts of its bones showing. The poor thing held one of its dead pups in its mouth. Various other characters wandered in and out of the space. They were not malevolent at all but total lost souls. I got the feeling that these are the type of souls that feed off people drinking and engaging in sexual activities. It got too much for me so I said that I was leaving and woke myself up. When I woke up I could feel energy all round me and knew I had to try and help and bring some light in. I am not to familiar with this kind of technique so did the best I could in my own way. I could feel shifts in the energy as I did this. Once I felt I had done all I could the presence of 2 light beings appeared in my mind, one a female to my left and the other a male to my right who I had actually encountered only a few days before. They radiated purity and light and without words made me feel like I had done right and this was what we should be doing to help. The difference in energy was amazing but It broke my heart and I could not help cry tears of sorrow for all these lost souls. A brief description of these beings would be , very pure , gold and white , white skin , blond hair , very beautiful, almost greek in dress with white robes and maybe gold adorments, sitting on thrones. They appear very big in stature at either side of me. So , was this an actual experience or am I just having very lucid dreams ? It puzzles me as I have had dreamtime experiences before that I know for sure were not dreams but multi-dimensional experiences and contact with the light beings have always been when I am awake.

I agree with those who suggest asking for a second opinion. Or you could interrogate your doctor further about exactly how necessary this medication is and what the prognosis is if she does not take it. A web site I looked at said it was for life threatening situations and so I guess its a subject not to be treated lightly. Trusting your dreams /intuition is a good thing but you have to be careful - I have sometimes discovered the true meaning of a dream as different to my first thoughts - and years later. So I would always recommend to test intuition with facts.

Hahahaah...reading stories about this drug Amiodarone...I am wondering if the doctor was trying to make my mother's life miserable. I guess this drug has so much karma associated with it I can somehow sense it in my dream vision. Wow, lost of the thyroid functions. Going completely blind within 6 months. http://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/amiodarone-2499

So what you glimpsed during Nirvikalpa samadhi was enough to cause you to realise There is only that one...no other (no separation between people, things, religions, languages, skin color, animals) There is really no thing. You are I and I am essentially empty of phenomenal existence. The world as we know it is just a vivid dream. You said "Once these two realizations occur (experientially), there is no more negativity or fear or anger or envy etc. There is only love, tranquility and bliss." Do I assume too much in seeing this as allowing all vasanas and samskaras to drop immediately?

Hahahahaha....I don't know what to say. Sometimes, a doctor prescribes medications for you to try to treat one issue but causing multiple ones. You later regretted following his advises and taking that medication. Currently, my mother is on 5 heart medications (coreg and some others to expand her blood vessels and to slow down her heart beats). And to reduce her blood pressure. She was on them for about a year. Today, she had her follow up after 1 year. She has irregular heat beats. The health of her heart is improving, better than last year. Now, the doctor prescribes an extra medication to treat her irregular heat beats. The medication is called amiodarone. This medication is so potent that can cause liver damage and blindness and mental confusion. Generally, make your life miserable so that your heart could beat normally. Irregular heart beats aren't something fatal. Some strange skin condition causing your skin to turn gray. It is supposed to treat the irregular heart beats. I am like really? Am I going to allow my mother to take this drug? Now, here is my point, I have been dreading this day because I had a dream/vision. In this dream, I was in the doctor office and we were discussing my mother's heart condition. In the vision, I remember that I was supposed to receive one additional medication. I insisted that my mother needed this new medication. Now, the doctor said that I didn't need it and showed me a heart inside a glass jar. There was some blood inside but the level was low. I was convinced that my mother didn't need this additional medication based on what I saw. I wasn't sure what I saw or what it meant. In the dream, I was reminded that my mother would need another endogram done maybe later in the year when she sorted out her insurance. Before ending the dream, I remembered that I was getting or receiving 5 medications. My mother wanted to see another female doctor instead. Same medications she was on for the year. Nothing new. Reading the FAQ on amiodarone, I realize that maybe this is the medication I should not allow my mother to take. Maybe this doctor in my dream was telling me my mother does not need to take this medication??? I have been receiving visions about the health of my mother ever since she was diagnosed with a congestive heart failure. Thank goodness...all the visions were favorable. Not like she was about to die or anything. And including the extra amiodarone medication I wasn't supposed to allow her to take because at the end of the dream, I remember only seeing 5 medications, not 6. If I count the extra amiodarone medication, she would be taking 6 medications. The doctor is Chinese but practicing western medicines. And he isn't attentive. Sometimes, he is somewhat incoherent and would repeat himself. I am grateful he is treating my mother but I have to consistently evaluate the medications he is prescribing for my mother and to cross reference with my dream visions. LOL. End of my rant..... Interesting info... http://heartdisease.about.com/cs/arrhythmias/a/amiodarone.htm

No that was your inference What it means is that we experience that which we may have had glimpses of in the course of our practice before and intuitively grasped. This puts to rest any doubts about "that one". Much akin to how our dreams seem real while we sleep but unreal when we awaken, similarly our mundane reality will seem like a dream when we awaken to that one reality, but might forget when we go back to sleep (re-enter the dualistic state). Just as one can lucid dream to be free in a regular dream, then the work starts to be lucid in the dualistic reality dream.

In your first post you appear to be saying that the vasanas and smaskaras are dropped immediately after realising in Nirvikalpa Samadhi that: There is only that one...no other (no separation between people, things, religions, languages, skin color, animals) There is really no thing. You are I and I am essentially empty of phenomenal existence. The world as we know it is just a vivid dream. and immediately replaced by love, tranquility and bliss. So am I correct in saying that to you there is no work to be done apart from allowing all vasanas and samskaras to drop immediately? Which would also imply that ego is extinguished at the same time, because the vasanas and samskaras are attached to the ego self.

Why would it be a spiritual trap or a dead end? It only brings home two realizations. There is only that one...no other (no separation between people, things, religions, languages, skin color, animals) There is really no thing. You are I and I am essentially empty of phenomenal existence. The world as we know it is just a vivid dream. Once these two realizations occur (experientially), there is no more negativity or fear or anger or envy etc. There is only love, tranquility and bliss. When we are in presence of such masters, it also influences us to become that way.

Dreaming techniques??? Not really..the book talks about trying to wake up several times during your sleeping hours. Thereby, you won't fall into your REM sleep. What you do while dreaming?? Hehehehe.... Dreams are residues of your life being played out while in sleep. So, if you have problems with the real world, try to resolve that. And your dream visions may change. Pretty much in dreams, you see your life problems being played out. You have to resolve them in your real life. If that's not possible, you have to interpret the dreams themselves to determine what you must do. Since you can't really control your dreams 100%, is impossible to develop techniques to use while dreaming. That would require some sorts of conscious power of the mind to influence the outcome and situation in the dreams...which is very, very hard to do. Ideally, while dreaming or in the beginning of the dream, you want to realize you are dreaming, immediately. The truth is that you don't do that. You would just find yourself in a situation, in the dream, and trying to play things out until you are stuck or encountering some unpleasant situations or bad feelings. You can force yourself to wake up from it if, while dreaming, you couldn't find a solution to your situation. Is often really nice to manage to resolve problems in the dreams, instead forcing yourself to wake up in order to stop the dream.

The story I heard was from an elder ; When the ocean rose and flooded the Gulf Of Carpentaria (which was previously above water level ) , a 'fierce tribe' moved westward as they were loosing their land and displaced the Bunjalung who were living in that area and they moved south eventually coming to east coast NSW. This is very different to the 3 brothers legend, coming by canoe ( But did that legend come with them is it a NSW legend ? ? ? No, he got that name like most westerners got them. The ancestral 'spirit' for them would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirawong .... his specific ancestor hero ( I have a bad memory here ) is Boorigan ( spelling ? ) - possibly one of the the three brothers ? Phew ! .... Lets see; he is an old friend. I have not learned the whole story ( stories have great depth and start to interconnect with stories of other places, events and beings, based on family relations, moiety, totemic relationships via 'song lines' having the potential to link the whole country up and are heard by entitlement. Maybe no one knows the whole story, thats the idea, to keep people and places connected so the whole story is a group thing. I can see Old Man Dreaming from my cabin (and from where I move my bed to to get winter morning sun, I can see him while I lie in bed ( ... and dream ) . He looks up the valley . (As far as I can make out from your question), I am associated with 'that' place , I dont own it ( national park) I live nearby but I dont 'own' the place I live on but I do live 'at it ' ? ? ? if that is what you meant . Its my DBs site name, based on Ngali - http://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/things-to-do/Lookouts/Skywalk-lookout I am associated by what I wrote above and a 'magical connection' . Or if you like ... by living in that area and being receptive to the area energies and network. nah .... I just liked that 'lazy kangaroo' picture , I have been a wily-wily, a camel , a sea cucumber spirit, originally I was a goanna .... another type / variation Nungungali .... one of two main creator spirits (landscape was formed from a battle between a giant snake and a goanna ) Yes. Its on the internet ..... there are a few others like it . they were a result of the 'Julingah Yowarl ' period ( which seems finished now ) http://www.ecoshout.org.au/event/julinbah-yowarl-rainbow-corroboree

Most of my sleep paralysis experiences have been night terrors. Through practicing dream yoga, I have had 2 occasions of becoming lucid during these episodes and was able to transform them.

This is something I have been able to do, but not sustain or deliberately initiate. Originally it would happen due to exhaustion. I'd lie or sit down, and just rest, but not sleep. Sometimes I would hear thoughts corresonding to what had happened earlier in the day. The first time this happened I was in Vegas, and I heard people's voices saying all sorts of things appropriate to being in Vegas, but I was in my room. I actually considered this might be clairaudience, but the next time it occured I had been inside all day, and played a computer game. I lay down, and heard the voices and sounds from the game. Oh. Then last summer I had an epiphany. I was angry about something for hours. Anger has been a significant attachment for me. I didn't want to be angry. In such a situation I (and others) often say "being angry doesn't solve anything, just relax." Doesn't work. But that day it did. I thought "this isn't helping the people on whose behalf I'm angry, it's bad for me and I don't like it." Poof--the anger was gone and I was unreasonably happy. I went to the small room I was living in, sat and thought for a while. I had significant money problems and I was worried I was going to run out in a few months. I thought "worrying about this does me no good. I've done what I'm going to do, it will work or it won't, and other stuff may happen I don't control. If there's something I can do, I'll do it; if not, I won't; and otherwise I'm not going to worry about it. If I run out of money and bad stuff happens, no reason to suffer for it until it happens (and maybe not then)." I had spent a year deciding not to worry or care about all sorts of things, but anger and worry over money (survival) had evaded me. I lay down, and just relaxed completely. My attention was nowhere. It was not on my breath, it was not in a specific place in my body, it was not following a thought. It was placed nowhere. And I felt a heat, similar to how a fever feels, rising from the tips of toes and the tips of my fingers. It moved from the fingers and toes to the foot and hand. I had a bad splinter in my left foot a few years ago which didn't heal properly. When the fever hit that, it hurt. My attention moved to the pain, and the fever stopped. I wasn't upset by the pain, it was just that my attention was on something specific. I relaxed again, the fever started again, and I managed to not pay attention to that pain. Then it hit my right wrist, which I had broken as a teenager and had healed badly. More pain. Attention to that pain. I couldn't get past that. I kept relaxing, the fever would hit the wrist and it was too much pain to ignore. It wasn't, again, that I was upset with the pain (I've had much worse) but just the act of putting my attention on it stopped the heat cold. After a few tries, I got frustrated, starting thinking about how to do this and, of course, lost it. This felt to me like chi rising (not Kundalini, but I could be mistaken). I have had various heat sensations during meditation at various times. I can't make it happen, but if I detach enough it does. Often this is a sudden flush of heat to the chest and neck. I don't think it's the same thing. I've never had the fever repeat, but a month or so ago, I gave up on trying to fix another problem. Really gave up, and thought "I'm never Doing anything every again." My attention was nowhere, because I had given up completely--nothing mattered, so I didn't need to do anything. Comfortable warmth rose in my body, not feverish, in the places where I have the most tension stored. I fell asleep, woke up about 8 hours later, the heat was still there (indeed it had been with me when in the one dream I remember). Placing my attention somewhere, no longer "giving up completely", the heat vanished. Ok, so much for the long story. 1) Have other people had similar experiences? 2) Does anyone have advice on how to get to this point of placing attention nowhere? For now, while doing nothing, later while doing. This seems related to Wu Wei (the non-doing part, though non-interference is also important). It seems associated with what Hindus would call Karma-yoga (doing without caring about result). But I can't deliberately induce it, and I can't reliably stay in it. How would I do that? Advice much appreciated.

Sleep paralysis is associated with drug and alcohol use and physical and mental exhaustion - anything that interferes with a natural sleep cycle. I used to experience this fairly frequently. I found that a regular meditation practice helped it to happen much less frequently. Ever since beginning to practice dream yoga, I sleep and dream better than ever and find it to be very rare.

Does the book The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep explains the dreaming techniques too?

I think it would be edifying, edificational,, whatever, especially if you know some of the particulars about the folks that made it down under. /... the aquatic ape hypothesis has been around a while ,http://www.primitivism.com/aquatic-ape.htm I like it , it seems very reasonable to me, though most of it regards time quite a while before the first got to Aust that doesnt mean it doesnt still hold validity for them. Pre- dream time? Do we really have to debunk aliens and the early hominids ?or can we just skip to pre-history peoples. Or if you really want to do hominids , What about em? Just watched the clip , questions , Bunjalung is Australian aborigine? correct? what do the call themselves (as opposed to whites) or do they not make that distinction? Is he holding a long functional boomerang? Did they ever hunt whales as some other coastal peoples did? Their history doesnt go back before arriving in Austr. ? or is that entirely forgotten? ......and yes it is almost a spooky coincidence that at least some consider whales as ancestors. In Africa I was thinking along the shores of lake Chad , Rift valley lakes , Congo river etc. And I personallly am not asserting that humans lived like mermaids or had gills, or even were marine, no We still cant abide the salt water ( can drink 1/3 brackish) or even soak in water for days , but that doesnt mean one of our ancestral lineages didnt spend the majority of time wading splashing hunting , in and around water , enough so that physically there were heritable differences. The hominid line has had various offshoots which part , evolve , and merge back into the larger population, this is a more recent mindset gathering steam of late , and most focus on Neanderthalensis , Denisova , Florensis hybridizing back into Sapiens line. But the greatest genetic diversity actually traces back to Africa suggesting that this was the earliest experimental cradle and meltingpot. It is said that humans were never really a populous species , but if you drop the population too low, and too far apart the species loses its genetic viability , where was everybody ? they were on lakes rivers and beaches where remains do not preserve often. Water features dry up and we walked somewhere else. Like Snail Kites which really just eat snails , when water conditions are poor somewhere they just rotate to other large lakes. The movement isnt aimless wandering , like some people envision for hominids on a savanna. I dont know why anyone thinks this is really what was going on , it seems funny to me , that humans just kind of strolled around through the territories of lions and stuff. No , we had a niche , one that was difficult for many creatures to survive in , and it was there out in these difficult spots with challenging and varied food sources that we had any chance of living without getting eaten. For instance , we can eat plums, nuts , seaweed , shellfish, chocolate , onions , oregano , tomatoes , oranges , as well as catch , fish ,snakes porcupines, turtles, eggs ,cactus fruit ,,, and a whole host of crap that most animals would find toxic or impossible to harvest all of. ( some- but not all) Thats why our capabilities are , yes, all terrain, but no , not on par with gazelles and lions ON equal terms with them. We lived where leopards and hyenas couldnt persist over time, or didnt have the all the advantages they would on dry ground.

long life to all dead and undead! I was hoping to get some tasty bits of information from someone of the hermetic order first, but alllllll riiiiight.. He caught the maya-deer with the maya-net. I know from Guru whose story it is. The death of the body is not the end of self. The garland remains. The net cannot catch it. Nor can the chains catch the deer. In the restless race the deer vanishes into the void. Busuku (remember means the one who only eats, sleeps and shits) - so Busuku said first that when he doesn't get the "meat" he won't enter the hunter hut right? I just make a wild guess and the meat here is the meat of the maya-deer that the hunter caught with the maya-net He says "I know from Guru whose story it is" - I would guess that Busuku says here "this" secret of tantra he learned from the master: that the way to get realisation is not to abandon or dispise maya but to use it as upaya or skillfull means - like the famous quote "the relative is the method and the ultimate is the result of the method" only through understanding or realizing the relative, relative means just to remind you: all these illusory forms of our daydream state and night dream state. this dance of lights and shapes, sounds, thoughts/emotions etc - all contained within the five skandhas that you should slay in the first line... so all those illusory forms sounds etc. are the relative - holding unto them as real and substantial things means being caught within the net of maya - now this net of maya as we found out is both liberating and bounding depending on how you use it or be used by it (the high priestress) on the other hand in tantra we are thought that the five skandhas are not impure like in the lower vehicles but are actually the five buddha families - they are divine if one sees clearly and that secret is shown by the guru, or vajramaster so then the meat of this deer? I would say it is connected with siddhis or spiritual attainments, because meat is one of the samaya substances of tantra and relying on them gives siddhi (what that means is beyond the scope of my scribbles and because I don't know for sure what this actually means writing about it - I might create a lot of misunderstanding so better to not share half knowledge) so this meat of the deer, might be pointing to an essential point of buddhist tantra - transmuted perception or pure perception maya (the 5 skandhas) are not longer evil/holy and foul/beautiful, this body, perceptions etc and the emotions are not longer foul/beautiful and painful/pleasurable - this dualism is a source of suffering, but this suffering that seems to be so inherent to maya is seen as great bliss/emptiness - a sacred dance of forms, lights, sounds etc. so busuku is not interessted in entering the hunters hut, this big mental construct or prison of samsaric perception, if he cant extract the essence - that this samsara is nirvana, the impure 5 skandhas are in actuality the 5 buddha families so this deer is non other then the adept on the path, not as a siddha or a being who gained the fruit of this path the traditional example of the stages of a tantric adept is as follows, and here we are discovering stage number 2: first he/she should be like a bee - flying from flower to flower to collect the pollen (means meet many teachers and teachings - taste many approaches) then he/she should be like a deer - a deer is very careful, never too much in the open, sometimes appearing on a clearing in the forest but always aware whats happening, this means that the adept should be in retreat more, focus on the essence of the teachings and cultivate them in secrecy, if there is the need to go out - into the world/human society (forest clearing) then one is adviced to do so with great caution the next stage is the lion - the king of animals, free to roam and do as he/she pleases with true self confidence, this means that the adept has reached a certain realisation that is more stable and unshakable by outer circumstances, so if there is a need to be more active in society then now is the time the last stage is the madman - the siddha, utterly beyond any social and religious constrains, dogma etc. so here in this giti I think we talk about the adept as this deer - and there are also certain threatening forces in the giti, specially at the end. on one hand the maya net can never catch enlightenment or our true nature, because the nature of maya is enlightened - maya can't catch herself on this fundamental level the deer can't be chained either, once the adept becomes a deer - society (as a threatening force that might interfere with the dealings of the tantrica or mage in the hermetic tradition) can't chain him or her any longer, he/she entered the twilight of the forest and society doesn't know this twilight and can't enter and follow the adept to where he or she is destined to go in the restless race (of wordly life,dualistic vision and thinking processes) - the deer vanished into the void

Dream on. It will never happen.

Teacher. Guru. Drug. Entheogen. Breath. Plant. Stone. Crystal. Human. Animal. Reptile. Algae. Fish. I can't conceive of a single thing in our entire universal environment, nor a process, or organ within my body, nor a dream or thought stream of 'my mind' that is not a guru. In fact, to me, there is no separation of teacher and student. There is just relationship. I no longer perceive teacher/student, guru/follower. I experience relationships. Either I participate, or withdraw. Our human culture of late seems so obsessed with teachers and teaching. Particularly of becoming a teacher. In the West it seems a plague of the mindset of needing to 'teach what I know' to everyone around me, particularly after having some impacting experience. I need to teach you something. You need to learn something. There is this assumption that my experience must be distributed to the larger masses. I'm a great teacher. You're a great teacher... so and so is a bad teacher. what a load of b.s. that all is to me where I am now... there is no thing and no one to me now, who isn't a teacher and student simultaneously. There is life. Of which, we are all an integral participant. How aware we are of that process... determines much. The level of my participation in an active relationship will dictate how I define and what I call teacher and what I will derive from the process of being in the presence of anything. To sit under a tree for an afternoon and watch the wind blow the grass, the birds hunting insects, the ants disassembling a grasshopper corpse and the bees bringing life to everything around them... very instructive for me, if I'm participating, but who is the teacher? More and more, I sense that the only guru is within and it is not a thing, it is a process. I have in the traditional sense, been a teacher. I had 'information' that I offered to others in a formal setting. Whether or not the 'student's learned, I had no control. In reality, I offered of myself and if they were inclined to enter actively into the relationship, the participants, perhaps gained or lost something within their experience that could be defined as beneficial, or useless. But to strictly define me, or anyone as the teacher is an obtuse and clumsy oversimplification, it's lazy. There was not a single instance of this traditional process of me being 'the teacher' where I myself did not learn. As for substances. All 'things' have medicine. They have within the very vibration of their essence, in their nature, lessons that I may derive if I am inclined to seek, or listen, or simply participate in a relationship with them. Crystals are powerful teachers in this sense for me right now. The whole 'drugs are bad... mm'kay' mentality is pedantic to me of late. It's usually an indicator of someone's lack of experience, a projection of social programming. Herbs, plants, fungi, entheogens have tremendous and powerful medicine that can impart potent lessons when we enter into a relationship with them. How those relationships affect us is part of the process called life. Not all of life is pleasant. Not all lessons I have learned were fun, but even the unpleasant lessons were helpful. It is just as helpful to learn what I am not. Anything that affects an effect can be classified as having a drug-like quality. Breath is by far the most potent guru/student relationship I have and is hands down the most potent drug I have ever encountered. Adjusting and altering my breath rate and depth/shallowness has induced states far more powerful than any 'traditional drug' I have ingested or smoked. Quiet observation I would classify as my second most potent guru. Just to sit and open up to what is around... student/teacher/drug/medicine/beneficial/harmful... labels of processes and reactions. There is a universe, apparently without, yet experientially as much within. All life is a guru, if I'm willing to participate in an active relationship. Yet, life isn't the same without me, in the process, so who then is the true guru, and who is teaching whom?

The last link is a long quote from my 2000 master's thesis. Someone posted it to their facebook page. So the point here is basic alchemy - as I posted in the first time - to achieve Emptiness the lower tan tien has to be filled with yin qi energy first. Taoist Yoga confirms this - the cavity referred to opens up after the lower tan tien is filled up. The light of vitality manifests when the Tai Chi is experienced. This means that the "Cavity of spirit" - the third eye - is closed - and then opens up as the Cavity of Original Spirit - once the lower tan tien - the Cavity of Spirit-Vitality - is filled with the yin qi energy. So the small universe practice - this is visualization but the Heart's Fire is the yin qi energy from the liver energy. This is why at night your spirit goes back to your liver - the visualization then manifests as subconscious desires which then deconverts your yin qi back into yin jing (blissful heat) and then reproductive fluid lost as ejaculation. So then the green dragon is the purification of the yin qi energy - so that the "heart's fire" descends to be below the water - the yin jing energy - thereby transforming the yin jing (blissful heat) into increased yin qi - which then increases the power of your spirit - yin shen. So then when the yin qi is full enough this activates the yuan qi of the heart which also opens up the third eye of the pineal gland - and so then your "heart's fire" will actually transmit out of your eyes via the pineal gland and so then your spirit will see light around other people - because your spirit has enough yin qi energy powering it. When the yuan qi is strong enough then you have telepathy which is the Schumann Resonance field I mentioned in the first post - so your magnetic qi is 1000 times stronger than the normal heart magnetic field - as the Schumann Resonance is also a 1000 times greater. So first the jing energy has to be built up but only through purification which causes the spirit fire to get below the water to create the qi energy - that is the secret process. Only by sublimation of the water - as the White Tiger - through the Quick Fire breathing - the deep fast breathing that activates the sympathetic nervous system of the adrenal medulla (the top of the kidneys as the Yuan Qi energy source) - then does the heart's fire get properly pulled down. My website has all the details on this. Quick Fire White Tiger Lung Metal, the yang in the water is used to settle the yin in the fire Green Dragon liver: to keep the yuan shen from going out of the eyes - more Quick Fire Tai Chi. This is a good point - but you are pointing out the difference between formless awareness emptiness and visualization. So for example - Ramana Maharshi points out that there is a conflation of visualization with emptiness. See Ramana Maharshi, Talks With Ramana Maharshi: On Realizing Abiding Peace and Happiness (Inner Directions; 2nd edition, August 1, 2000) and This is a very subtle difference yet it was understood by Ramana Maharshi. People have conflated light with formless awareness and you can see why - Ramana Maharshi is not clear about this. But that's also why in Tibetan yoga formless awareness is called "clear light" and why the original qigong master says to visualize clear light in the center of the body for the "moving of yin and yang" exercise. Ramana Maharshi says and So what this is referring to is actually the Yuan Qi - which is the formless awareness that is also the energy of the universe. If you look at the final stage of Taoist Yoga it is that the person - the immortal - merges back into the formless qi of the universe. So this is also proven in science, as my website details, there was a recent experiment that actually captured the "virtual photons" of the quantum vacuum. Virtual photons are from the future! Normally virtual photons can not be turned into actual photons of light - only by "squeezing" the light so it is beyond the limitations of time-frequency uncertainty of the planck constant - then the light can be captured. Science has also proven that human hearing is faster than time-frequency uncertainty. So that is the secret of Mouna Samadhi - it actually enables precognition and telepathy - but it's power depends on the Yuan Qi being activated via the heart-pineal gland connection. Once the pineal gland is opened up then it is a permanent transformation - a permanent magnetic activation - this is what Gurdjieff called a Number 4 person. But to get to a Number 5 person is very difficult - that means the pineal gland is fully open so that nirvikalpa samadhi is stablized - the Emptiness can be gone into at any time. A number 5 person can then do healing reliably as a qigong master - but it is very rare. As Master Nan, Huai-chin says what happens is a person opens up the pineal gland but then has "heroic over-exuberance" by using the spiritual powers that manifest - telepathy, precognition, healing others - and once the power is used then the person "falls back into worldliness." Now this process of falling back into worldliness is very easy since the energy is naturally sucked up by others being attracted to it - based on the yin-yang dynamics and so to store up the energy you need to keep people from constantly taking your energy. But Ramana Maharshi did specify that the formless awareness is NOT LIGHT yet at the same time the formless awareness creates light - and it does so based on the three in one unity. That again is the secret of the alchemical training that is spelled out in the Taoist Yoga manual. So the three in one at first is based on fire, water and (earth/metal).....but then it goes to sun/moon and earth (human). So that means based on the sun/moon/earth is that certain times of the year make resonating the formless awareness as light energy more easily - and that is right now. Science has proven that during the equinox and solstice there is increased solar aurora energy on Earth - and so for example one Solstice I got a strong shock in the middle of my brain with bright light flashing. But in the normal training the key is "grounding" the energy as alchemy details first the yin qi energy of the "yin heel" channels have to be filled up and so that's why the standing active exercise is done 3 times more compared to visualization sitting meditation. The yin qi energy has to be built up to power the shen spirit. We are all already ghosts we just don't realize it. The secret of alchemy is that after birth the yuan qi energy separates out into spirit ghost energy that goes out of the eyes during the day and goes back to the liver at night - and so what powers that ghost energy as life is the green dragon yin qi energy of the liver - the "heart's fire." At puberty the pineal gland shuts down, the thymus closes up the heart energy - the REM theta brain waves shut down - and the reproductive organs start focusing on creating fluid - and so the fire energy goes out of the eyes and this causes our spirit energy to have information focused on the lower emotions of desire so that our hormones are changed into fluid. Now the adrenaline is proven by science to be a positive feedback system. This is why Quick Fire of the sympathetic nervous system activation of the adrenal medullae (the yuan qi) source - it sublimates the jing energy to the brain which then via the pineal gland causes even more increased adrenaline. As Wim Hof has proven through science the adrenaline is increased 200 times more than normal just by the deep reverse breathing and the breath retention is then what transfers that sympathetic nervous system energy over to the parasympathetic nervous system. My website quotes the science - holding the breath AFTER EXHALE - activates the right side vagus nerve which is the reproductive organ energy connection to the right side of the heart - the source of the Yuan Qi energy. So with each cycle of that practice you increase the yin qi energy stored up in the organs which then increases the power of the light. As Taoist Yoga Alchemy and Immortality states - the training is all by fire - so the Quick Fire increases the jing and the increased jing then increases the yuan qi and the yuan qi of the pineal gland - then increases the shen energy and then increased shen then increases the jing energy. That's the "small universe" cycle. So you know when the lower tan tien is filled with yin qi energy - when the leg channels have opened up and you can sit in full lotus in ease. That's why I wrote an article "you can't fake the full lotus." It is very easy for the mind - the ego - to lie to itself - whereas the Yuan Qi energy is formless awareness that is the Emptiness. So yes we can get information via the pineal gland which then transduces that information to manifest through our bodies. In other words reality is holographic - if a person has an anger blockage then my liver will get very hot - why? Because my shen interacted with the shen of the person and then via my pineal gland heart connection - the shen energy was downloaded - transduced - back into a jing blockage of that other person. Or if I make eye contact with a person and suddenly I am overwhelmed by sadness - that is a lung blockage. So then as my website details - the biophoton healing means that my synchronized harmonized light had gone into that person which then exorcised their disbalanced light - the spiritual source of their jing blockage - and my spirit sucked up their disharmonized spirit energy. But it is the formless yuan qi that enables this transformation to take place and so by continuing in full lotus the jing blockage - say the burning hot liver - or the sadness of the lungs - is transformed again - it is exorcised by being harmonized back into synchronized light. But it is the yuan qi of the heart - that is the pinhole through the right side of the heart - that creates this secret black hole/white hole connection to the Emptiness itself and it is then traveled by the yin shen - the spirit light energy. And so a qigong master with the pineal gland fully open can then become a Number 6 person which then can create a new astral yin shen body out of the formless awareness - this is a total transformation of another person out of the formless awareness. I saw the original qigong master doing this - he creates a new individualized spirit for each person he is healing! And this spirit then builds out of his pineal gland - out of the top of the head, breaks off and floats out to the person being healed. Then another spirit forms. What causes this process - the deep heart formlesss awareness yuan qi energy. And the healing is not just of people alive but also healing of ghosts - the disharmonized light being held to Earth by the lower emotional jing blockages are then attracted to the qigong master and I saw these ghosts hovering around the qigong master and he explained that they were coming to get healed by him. This is why the alchemy training creates a "gold aura" - which is the highest aura of the yang shen manifesting. Just as gold is created by fusion of neutrons in science - from a supernovae - the deep yuan qi formless awareness is this black hole white hole fusion transformation that is stored up in the lower tan tien. So as Wang Liping demonstrated - such a person with the gold aura can then walk through a wall!!!! Because their physical body is completely one with the yuan qi formless awareness itself. Such a body can bilocate to manifest multiple other physical bodies at the same time - as H.W.L. Poonjaji did during his birthday. haha. But Poonjaji was not AWARE that he did this. That is the difference between spiritual ego self-awareness and the formless awareness. In Mahayana Buddhism you do not achieve supreme complete enlightenment unless you are self-aware in the LIGHT that you created multiple other yang shen physical bodies. Poonjaji only became self-aware AFTER the fact. For example in the biography of Phra Achran Mun his colleague levitated but as soon as he became SELF-AWARE that he was levitating then he fell down. So he had to train in his samadhi to be self-aware while meditating. What does that mean? It means the spiritual ego as synchronized light is able to travel into the black hole and transform into a white hole - have a vision of the future - while at same time KNOW that it is a vision of the future. In other words when you have a dream that is much more real and vivid than being awake then you will realize this dream - also the information is nothing from your past - you realize this dream is of the future and so you make note of it and you analyze it. That it an example of developing a type of samadhi that has the light go into the Emptiness and yet maintain self-awareness. The Bushmen describe this challenge as the type of trance staring that does healing of other people. It is very difficult to maintain that trance staring - why? Because it is the synchronized light itself! It is the synchronized resonating light that creates a holographic laser as self-aware consciousness that goes into the Emptiness and that is why it is very difficult to maintain this type of self-aware samadhi as the three in one unity. It is like riding a bike - you learn to ride a bike and once you learn you have that skill - but the skill is from feeling and practicing because it is your body consciousness that knows the skill - and so tai chi training is proven to increase your "fast neurons" - just as running also increases the mitochondria of the fast neurons. But what is the origin of the fast neurons? It is the sonofusion acoustic cavition energy itself - Dr. Mae-Wan Ho documents this - the meridians of the body manifest as this piezoelectric ultrasound quantum energy fusion. And so qigong master Yan Xin was documented to make gamma rays as a byproduct of his healing. Why? Because when you collide gamma rays you create matter from energy - and so the synchronized light is a holographic creation of new physical matter as a new yang shen body. The yuan qi formless awareness is outside of spacetime - it is the quantum entanglement of the white hole/black holes as a wormhole.

In terms of plant spirit medicine (psychedelic as well as simply meditation with the regular plants), the plants may be the healers and teachers in its practice, but it's our insight through which they communicate to us. In visions from daydreams, dreams at night, sudden knowing of what to do, songs that you're humming out of the blue, etc. So we could go beyond plants, by learning with all things, through our insight-knowing. We might get premonitions in dreams about the day to come, or something important to do. So perhaps the best thing is paying attention to the symbols of dreams, such as by keeping a dream journal, and living life less busily so that we can have time to "hear" this stuff and process it.