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  1. Hello, I have recently been watching some videos by the Association for Traditional Studies. I have been particularly interested in their 63 video collection of Yin style Phoenix Bagua. Yin Style Phoenix Bagua on Youtube The association has videos of the Yin style Lion, Bear, Dragon, and Phoenix systems as well as some Dao Yin. I have read that it is best to start learning Bagua with the 8 mother palms. When I reviewed the content of the phoenix system, they seemed to cover 64 palm patterns in sequence. What would be the appropriate starting point for this system? Are there 8 mother palms in the yin style phoenix system and if so how do i sort them out? Thank you for your help.