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Could a fellow tao bum be so kind to explain the pre and post heaven concepts as simple and clearly as possible? From my understanding in baguazhang we first strive to arrive at the pre heaven qi, one method is training the post heaven to return to the pre heaven. This is a yin process. I pre heaven is what we also call original qi? What we were born with? Preheaven is pre birth and post heaven is post birth from which point we enter this yang world and our original qi is already starting to absorb the toxins and get more yang. if any of this in incorrect, i am not out to mislead, but asking if i undertsand this much of the pre and post heaven bodies. Pre heaven is not the end, but a means is a quote i read in Dr. Yang Jwing Ming and Master Liang Shou Yu;;s book Baguazhang Theory and applications. I don't understand the unification fo the pre and post heavens. I am asking for any help from a taoist with the time. Thanks in advance for anyone who helps! BEST WISHES TO ALL