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this is to continue from https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4591482 This says your respected teacher is a priest but does not say anything about neidan. Are you and him neidan practitioners? Of course. pls see below I just wanted to understand your POV: you believe that story does not reflect taoist values. Great, thanks, now i understand. I do not want to protract the debate and do not need to win points. here is what i have: 其五 神光灿 The Spiritual Light’s Radiance 悲欢绝念，视听忘怀，从初号曰希夷。不晓根源，刚强说是谈非，百般拈花摘叶。谩徒劳，使尽心机。这些事，筭人人易悟，个个难依。 不在唇枪舌剑，人前斗、惺惺广学多知。上士无争，只要返朴除疑。冥冥放开四大，把尘劳、一旦纷飞。认得后，管教贤、拍手笑归。 Who interrupted his thoughts about grief and joy, forgot to hear and see - he conceived the inaudible and invisible. If you do not understand the roots and persist in chattering, there will be false speech, an empty plucking of a hundred kinds of leaves and flowers. It means to trouble yourself and others by deceit, to exhaust the spring of the heart to the end. This doing is very easy for everyone to understand, but difficult to follow. Lips are spears, and the tongue is a sword, people are arguing, intelligent, knowledgeable and learned. But the higher man does not compete, he wants to return to simplicity, removing doubts. It is necessary to dissolve the 'four greats' in the vastness, to take off overnight from worldly dust. Having understood this, you will master the doctrine of virtue - you will clap your hands, you will laugh and that's it. 推穷三教，诱化群生，皆令上合天为。慕道修真，行住坐卧归依，先须保身洁净。内常怀，愍物慈悲。挫刚锐，乃初心作用，下手根基。 欵欵磨砻情性，除贪爱、时时剪拂愚迷。福慧双全，开悟自入希夷。灵台内思不疚，任纵横，出处何疑。彻头了，尽虚空，裁断是非。 修真门户，大道家风，长春境界无边。秀气盈盈，闲里别有壶天。天中自然快乐，运三光，日月周旋。忘伎巧，任淳风坦坦，圣道平平。 一念还乡寂处，三宫罩、清灵万脉归源。浩浩神光，来去透骨绵绵。行人顿除造作，待功成，指日登仙。未行者，向词中，明取一言。 Explore the three teachings to the end, they are about the salvation of all living things, everything is given from above by Heavenly will. Those who perfect the truth, admiring the Tao, walking, sitting, standing and lying down should practice it single-mindedly, keeping pure peace in the body from beginning to end. In the bosom constantly there must be mercy and sympathy for all beings. In the beginning, you should remove your hardness and sharpness, this is the beginning of work and laying the foundation. Slowly and relentlessly polish your character, uproot feelings of passionate love, cut and sweep away the fetters of ignorance every hour. Combining both the good deeds and prajna, realization will open, entering into the invisible and inaudible. Then the abode of the spirit inside will not be ill, it will unfold freely along and across, based on this, there will be no more doubts. Having reached the end, exhausting the emptiness, the truths and lies will all be forgotten,. This is the door to the perfection of truth, to the great Dao family and its wind, the eternal spring realm without an end. Life-giving qi will permeate fully, in leisure there will be another Heaven and Earth enclosed in a cosmic vase. In that world there is joy that is self-natural, the three luminaries in it make their revolutions, the moon and the sun go in a circle. Cunning skillfulness will be forgotten, disposition will be relaxed and serene, the Tao of saints will be calm and peaceful. In an instant you will return to the village of non-action, in the body there will be three palaces, pure and numinous all meridians will return to the source. The radiance of the spirit will be boundless, penetrating all the bones, soft and continuous. Then a person on the Path can suddenly get rid of his creativity, his merits accomplished, he will soon ascend to the saints. Those who are not on the Path, take these verses, understand for yourself at least a word of these. @awaken 女士 why dont you join us for this friendly conversation?