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The Value of Encountering Life's Challenges Along the Spiritual Path
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This was originally written in reply to a post within a thread that I cannot find, so I am posting this here as a stand alone piece because it addresses an important spiritual question that many seekers wonder about, namely the nature of challenges in life and its place in spirituality... why do they happen what can we do about it Often, the challenges we face in life- from small to great, can also become some of the most precious gifts in our personal growth and development. This insight with intention and rightful effort to learn, grow and transform is integral to the self-refinement of the spirit (shen)! As with and integral to the nature of karma, the challenges exist because of conditions yet unresolved within ourselves. When we can realize this with appreciation for the reflection and opportunity that it is to cultivate our person and spirit, then we can take responsibility for the way we shape the conditions of our path. When this resolve is strong, it effects the present and changes the future. When this resolve is deep, it transforms our past and thus becomes the erasure of karma through the reversal of cycles (a deep principle within the spiritual movement of the wu xing). With wisdom, this will become the way in which you become Conscious and thus capable of co-creating destiny (ming). It is not to say that challenge and struggle are not without pain- (sometimes tremendous and immense, if not terrifying) or that there is pleasure in such hardships itself, per se. But with insight and compassion about the nature of self-responsibility to refine and become, it blooms the wisdom of strength in humility and grace. The path to Consciousness is through self-realization and in this there is no blame toward others, situations or necessarily even ourselves. Rather, there is continuous recognition that no one can take responsibility for our own given body/form (the po), our own soul (hun shen), and thus our own path (tao) nor our own destiny (ming), but yourself. And as frightening, vulnerable and small as the unconsciousness that is our own karmic pain may sometimes feel, look for the strength in compassion and humility, for these qualities are what imbue us with the radiance and grace to carry forth- they are the radiance of Consciousness; so that the unconsciousness that is burden and previous ignorance will be diminished and through rightful perseverance, entirely overcome. And yes, it is possible to entirely overcome the things you thought would haunt you and hurt you forever... those things which seemed impossible to resolve. For they were once the creation of unconsciousness, but in the light of Consciousness there is only the unifying light of clarity that is True Nature (xing) and this is Peace. This is one of the great processes that everyone goes through as they tend to the elixir and cleanse themselves of all karmic ailments. Because challenging moments and conditions are a necessary aspect of valuable opportunity, it is beneficial not bring more unconsicousness to the unconsciousness that is already contained within these hardships by laying more waste (ie. blame, shame, guilt, hatred, anger); to do so only causes entrenchment and has potential to deepen the hole and prolong the reptitive cycle of experience. The more we resist the opportunity for responsible, integrious and compassionate action, then the more we will continue to experience more of the same hardships or worse. This is not punishment or even the judgement of blame necessarily, rather- and more importantly, it is the principle of unlearned opportunity that is karma, that is the puzzle you own in this lifetime to unravel. In a way, I suggest- especially for those prone to guilt and shame, to not feel so identified or personal about the pain - either as a mark of shame or badged mission to overcome- in short don't attach your pride positively or negatively to challenges or pain. Yet proceed with all the responsbility and devotion, with sincereity and inner strength to take care of what you have been given and presented, for this pain and these challenges are as much your own as they are part of collective. As the Buddha taught, a true teacher- a truly great one, is one who helps you to see yourself- this is not only true of a Great Teacher, but can also be true of the powerful reflections within your own life if you allow it to be. But too often people spend time hating the source that offers the reflection- not realizing that when they hate, blame and react to that source, when they treat their own life and the life of others carelessly and unconsciously; then they only bring more harm upon themselves and thus prolong their own hardships and the collective pain. I can tell you, it is not uncommon that many of the persons who come into Consciousness suffered horrendous traumas. But it is in part because of the depth of their sincerity and willingness to really know the truth within themselves and to care for this Truth with all the resolve that they knew possible that they were gifted with the Golden Seed*; these are the actions of a virtuous being and they integral to the direct process of developing the elixir- to reverse the cycle of experience that is karma and resolve back into pure Unity through refinement of profound insight. So often people deem this process mystical, but it is no more miraculous than practical; it is no more the movement of Tao as it is the stillness of the maturity you find within. Just as grasping and greed for pleasure becomes the bondage of unconsciousness, insight and grace in pain can become liberation in consciousness. Therefore, don't assume the nature of conditions based on the the quality of ease in self-ignorance. Unity contains all things, so learn how to be rightfully in relation to all things. Do not separate the pain from pleasure, but do learn to distinguish rightful stillness and action through the mirage of condition. So I urge you to remember, that challenges are reflections of what is still yet to be learned: unconsciousness waiting to be revealed and resolved through (your) Consciousness. When we blame, despise, resent or indulge the painfulness of these reflections, then we squander the opportunity to refine the spirit and this in turn prolongs the cycle. If instead we can use the energy (qi) we have to transform our consciousness (shen) then we can transmute the potential (jing) into what is true and pure (the yuan). This how you take care of The (three great) Treasures you've been given. Take responsibility for your own Liberation, for your soul is a worthy essence in need and benefit of all the beauty of effort that you can give it! ----- *The Golden Seed is comprised of many components or aspects of spirit in Unity (the 'little shens' and the Great shen). These are not the energies of some kind of post-natal qi (as many would mistakenly believe) but rather of refined shen qi- meaning they are the energies of a purified spirit, that in greater resolved Unity becomes part of the Yuan Shen. Just as Conscious Unity contains the harmony of darkness and light, so too must you discover how to be in harmony amidst the waves; every stroke of moonlight no different than the light of sun- let the weather of nature be your teacher, let yourself be a great student and observer to the life within yourself; to not fear to uncover, discover and adventure across your own ravines and mountains; for somewhere in its inner depths lies the Mysterious Passage- a dimension without place, an entry without lock, a recognition of the true self within the Great Tao Yin.- 4 replies
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I would like to ask people about their ideas; what is the karma for prostitution? 1) What caused the prostitute to become a prostitute? 2) What karma does the prostitute get from selling sexual services? 3) What karma does the people who buy sexual services from a prostitute get?
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The following is a partial transcript for the talk Sadhguru gave April 21, 2020 Sadhguru on Karma Life is karma. If you want to become NishKarma - that means - people think No-Karma - if you want to become No Karma - there is no such thing. You can become very minimal Karma. So is a Couch Potato NishKarma? No no. Lethargy is a tremendous amount of Karma. It takes a lot of work to be lethargic. In a sense you will have to generate a lot of explanations for everything and convince yourself that you don't have to do anything about it. Right now there is virus going on. Somebody is dying around you. You have to [flits hands to wave away] - tsk - do something within yourself to not to respond to that. Otherwise it's natural for you to respond to it. So being a Couch Potato is not Nishkarma. Well a yogi can become almost like a hibernating state where everything is minimized. But still he is not free from karma. He might take less number of breaths per minute. You may be taking 12 to 15 breaths per minute. When somebody simply sits (SG demonstrates cross legged position with hands palms up and open on each knee) they may just go down - maybe 3 breaths, maybe 6 or 8 but below that you can not go. You can even stop breathing a while for some time but it's only some time. If you stay without a breath, not by holding, just by lowering the metabolism then slowly a different level of karma will begin to pick up momentum in the body. When it picks up anyway - you will breathe. Again it may go into breathless state, again it will come back. So this way you can minimize but still you're not free. You will have to get up to drink a little water or put something in your mouth. When you put something in, something has to go out. All these things are karmas. So what is the way to handle this? Well what do you think we've been doing with you? With Inner Engineering? What do you think it is? It is simply this, many of you...(laughs)...almost all of you when you did the online Inner Engineering program you still have not done any practice. Or you went through the program first 2 days, no practice yet, first 2 days we're still talking to you suddenly after 2 days you feel a new sense of life and freedom. This thing has happened to millions of people. I know this. Suddenly you light up. Not because all your old karma went away. Just those 2 days you did not create too much fresh karma. Suddenly it's feeling so light and wonderful because you are not creating an unnecessary burden upon yourself. So what was the trick? There are various aspects, let me not go into all the aspects now. The simplest thing is this - your ability to respond. See, whether I should do something or not, if I think about it - right now, many people are struggling with this - let us say somebody around somewhere close - let's say somebody is infected in Coimbatore. [Looks up wondering] "Now should I do something or not? Why should I do? Why should I do anything? He must have a family. Let them do." But if we just put up that man's suffering in front of you you will have to do a lot of work to not do anything. But to respond in which ever way you can. Not everybody can go and save everybody's lives. But at least do whatever you can. It's very simple. The amount of karma you have to do - mental karma - will come down dramatically within your mind - simply because your response has become indiscriminate. Indiscriminate in response but not indiscriminate in action. Because you cannot afford to be indiscriminate in action. In action you are always discerning because action requires physical capability, energy, intelligence, means to do it, time to do it, many things are involved. And these are all limited commodities. Nobody can do indiscriminate activity. If they do indiscriminate activity they will die very soon. And that is also a bad karma. Yes, it is. Activity is not indiscriminate but our response is indiscriminate. Wherever it is I would like to do something, if possible, everything that is possible, will do. But what is not possible we at least have a little intention. Just because of that you came to the program and you felt such a sense of freedom. People have been asking me, "Sadhguru, how will the online program work without the practice?" I want you to know before you came for the Shambhavi Initiation already you were feeling fantastic. Simply because you stopped creating fresh karma. Old karma did not go away in those 3 or 4 days. Just that new load is not happening. For the old karma actually just living is enough. Sitting here, living, breathing, heart beating is good enough to start dissolving the old karma. A few things need a little more nudge but most of the things will simply go away if you sit here and breath, live, heart will beat by itself. You don't have to do anything. Or are you doing? [flutters hands into various mudras]. Some of you think you are doing everything. The whole issue of people when it comes to their health - whatever - because everybody is an Internet Doctor now. No? They've done a lot of research. The doctors are having hell. Because every patient who comes knows more about the damn thing than the doctor is supposed to know. Doctor knows something more profound because he spent 9-10 years studying and experience of treating people. But these people looked it up after they came to know they have this particular ailment last 3 days they've looked up everything that's on the Internet. And now with all kinds of questions they go with their own prescription. "Please give me this drug. Other drugs I will not take." A whole lot of them coming to the doctor saying, "I will not take this drug. I will take only this." This is supposed to be a very educated patient. A highly educated patient means you are going to be a lifelong patient. You need to understand. Yes, if you become a lifelong doctor it's a good thing. You become a lifelong patient, very qualified patient what is the point of that? This is simply because you think you are doing this [activity with hands] you have to check your heartbeats, everybody is wearing a band... ***edited for brevity**** [SG digressed a bit about how a great many people these days have turned into excessive neurotic worry warts about their own health] **** All the time being worried - what is happening? What is happening (health-wise)? This itself is sickness. Too much concern about health itself is sickness and it's a terrible karma. This karma will have an enduring effect on you. So this is all that happened in the first 3 days of Inner Engineering, online or otherwise. All that happened is that we gave you little tools with which you stop creating new karma and suddenly it felt so wonderful. You did that little homework, ok? What happened today? 5 things to write down. Just because of that homework you paid attention to what you are doing and what you're not doing, suddenly tremendous sense of liberation. If a two and half hour program can have such an impact on you, if you pay a little more attention, in this lockdown time, you can just learn how to not create karma. Simple this, your response is unbridled. You don't decide what is worth responding or not worth responding. It's not your business. A bird, a grasshopper, and a human being, man, woman, child, doesn't matter, you respond. Do you have to act? No. Action is always a discerning action, because there are quantities involved in action which are not unlimited. Our energy is not unlimited, our intelligence is not unlimited, our actions in no way can be unlimited they're always limited. But our ability to respond is limitless. This one thing, just this one thing, if you do you will not create any karma today. You will not add up load. Just not adding up a new load, you will see it feel like liberation. That's the kind of damage you are doing to yourself. Why do you think when you were a child you are like this (gestures at his own smile) still you had warehouse loads of karma on you but still you were grinning. Now you become like this (serious look). "A virus, Sadhguru. Virus!" Even before the damn virus came most people were looking so grave, it looked like they walked out of it. This is because every day building up this rubbish endlessly. Every day. Whatever happens you build it up. Build it up. Build it up. Something happens, something doesn't happen, for everything you create a mess, within yourself and that load of mess, just garbage. You're like a garbage truck I'm telling you. Yes. But now it's a lockdown. You don't have to pick up any garbage. That's a good thing about a lockdown. You just simply - you don't be selective. Who are you to decide what is worth your attention and what is not? Whatever created this, who ever created all this do you see a blade of grass is created with as much care as this big tree or yourself or an elephant or a tiger? A little creature, a tiny little insect that is going there is better decorated than you. Hello? You have to put on all kinds of dyes, they're all very well painted by themselves. So whoever created - has creation paid any less attention to these tiny, little creatures than yourself? No. So then who are you to decide what to respond to, what not to respond to? Your ability to respond always has to be unbridled. If you're not getting what I'm saying, well we can't come and teach you now. There is Inner Engineering Online. Just go through this 3 days, just first 3 days what is being said there, let it sink into you, soak it in completely. You will see in 3-4 days time you feel like you are floating simply because no new garbage. That's how it feels. So please make it happen. There is no need to go on adding up trash load upon your head.
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What are your thoughts on Newton's books Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls?
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I've recently read a quote that I would like to understand in a modern context. What does the term 'create karma' mean?
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Hello everyone. I'm very much into the buddhist practices and philosophy. But my problem is, I'm so afraid of karma that I dare to do someting. It's like fear of creating karma. Especially in my social interactions this has great effects. I don't want to hurt other people even when they attack me. I always remember then the quote from jesus where he said: "When someone someone slaps your right cheek, give him also the left cheek." I understand this I should remain confident with myself but also don't fight back. But sometimes I'm not sure if I don't should defend myself more or to show others more my borders. Any advice on being afraid of remaining confident or defending myself because of the fear of hurting others or creating karma? And what is confidence from a spiritual perspective?
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Hello, i was wondering what came first, a belief or an experience. some people say that we experience first and according to what we experience we form a belief. and other people say, that the belief creates our reality and thus our experience. Some may argue as kids we experience and then we start building beliefs according to what we feel. but other do argue that we come to the world with beliefs, that can be considered Karma inherited from our past life. What do you think, what came first? Can we experience something that we have opposite belief of ? What are the determinants of our reality ? what determines what we experience or situations that arises in our reality?
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Can anyone tell me more about this Guy. I tried searching here to see if this System is Discussed here. Would this be considered a genuine lineage ? I'm posting the website and another video : https://www.tinyatdragon.com/
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Hello all, Meditating on karma ideas, letting them float around, I have some pretty mixed feelings about it. But mainly it comes across as a dumb idea without merit, unless you are capable of remembering why you have it, and why it is bad. Good karma everyone would take in stride, without a fuss. Like with any form of "punishment", being punished without knowing why leads to disturbed people with problems. So unless we know what we did wrong, and how not to repeat this, or exactly what it is, this is again some mumbo-jumbo dumb idea that can never be understood. Working through our karma becomes just another crap pile to deal with without any clear definition. To underline my point, reincarnation and/or the dark wave place have to be included in the description. If you simply get tortured for the wrongs you do immediately, with bad health or losing your wealth, it would be instant karma and I would see it as a fair system and cheer for it. But if it only happens after you die, and you get punished for a while, then get reborn with a life full of issues, but have no idea why you have them, what good is it? You have to be able to connect the poor conditions with what it is you did wrong in order that you don't repeat this same behavior. So a system that keeps you in the dark about your crimes and why you are being punished is a totally dumb idea invented by somebody who needs to make people afraid of being bad to each other. Simply a bad idea invention, no better than the Christian hell idea. And I'm not buying it. If karma is a cause and effect, such as smoking causing issues with lung health, and you know it will cause this and still smoke, then it is a force of nature and you have a choice to do something about it. The source of the problem is clear, the consequences are clear. All this smoke and mirror magic karma garbage has to stop. I see way too many rotten people with all the money and power, and I don't feel like we should wait for karma to fix that problem, or trust that it is doing the job. So in my humble opinion, karma is a dumb idea unless you know what you did wrong, and how you can fix it, and what happens if you keep doing the bad karma thing. If it is so universal, and effects everyone, we all have a right to know, and a right to protest it. All other forms are forms of unnecessary torture and unfair, and that means that karma must deal with itself as an unfair and bad karma thing. Consume itself and punish itself for being secretive and unfair towards everyone on the planet. I remember as a child, 9 years old, letting God and the Devil know one thing very seriously. I said, "if you two have some kind of fight, leave me out of it, leave me alone, let me be." I don't need your heaven, where there are a bunch of freaks that I would have to spend eternity with. I don't need your hell, because being punished for things I do proves there is no free will and no free choices, since the consequences according to this belief system say you don't "really" have a choice, except to burn in hell or suffer an eternity with people you don't like. Same thing, hell either way. So stop this and leave me out of your system, your personal fight, your idea of reality. How about some reflective thoughts?
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Hi everyone, I would like to know which forms of spiritual cultivation exist aside from the Buddha Dharma practices to transform or negate negative karma? How do they achieve this? It has been explained to me that the Shaolin arts enable karma to be transformed, something which somewhat changed my point of view regarding the martial arts practiced by the Shaolin, so now I am wondering whether the Taoist martial practices are able to act in a similar way, or whether another method is used to reach the same end? David
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Swadharma - performing activities according to one's inherent nature?
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The above verses from bhagavad gita, one from chapter 3 and the other from chapter 18, look the same to me. Anyway, the message conveyed it seems to be is to perform activities (all in the world in accordance with one's one inherent nature. It says, better die, than doing something that is not natural to you. This is interpreted in n number of ways. Some traditional religious say, we get the swadharma by birth. Other's say, it's not by ones birth, but based on one's gunas or vasanas (impressions) carried from the past (lives?). Swami Chinmayananda explains these verses beautifully in his Gita talks. I have also heard some analogies. The essential nature (swadharma) of poisonous snake is poison. The swadharma (essential nature) of bitter gourd is it's own unique flavor of bitterness. Similarly, everything and every one in the universe seems to have their own essential nature or swadharma. This is the way, I understand it. I read an interesting article about winners of huge lotteries. A study was conducted to see, how they were after a decade or two. The results were nothing but disturbing. While a minority seemed to have taken the sudden shift in life well, adjusted and carried on with their lifes, turning lottery winnings to their advantage. It was described that majority of these huge lottery winners were not living a happy life after a decade or more. That may be an understatement. Many expressed that they wish they never won the lottery. Some said, they were isolated from their family and friends. Some it seems got addicted to drugs or whatever and died within the decade. Money as a goal by itself does not seem to be the goal with just this lottery example. In the context of this, looking at the words from gita, the strong words does seem to make sense. It is better to die doing what is aligned with ones own nature; or the essence of one, rather doing something that is unnatural though it could be profitable. Here is the confusions that I have. Sometimes, it is not clear as to what one's swadharma or essential nature is. At least, I get confused. Some work that I do, feels like, it is not my swadharma at all. There is an expressing, working for the paycheck. People want early retirement. On the other hand, I see some working passionately in their late 70s or 80s. Even though their body is giving up, they don't want to stop their work. Many of these people have money to retire, and it doesn't seem that they are working for money. Sometimes we feel that we know what our swadharma is. Other times it is not clear. Not knowing what swadharma is, one engages in worldly activities including work. Working to make money, work that is not in alignment with the person's nature. There is suffering and misery. There is a longing for the weekend. Monday morning anxiety or anxiety or whatever. Some people watch the clock (nothing wrong in this). At 5 PM, they get up and leave. It seems that they were tied to that seat til 5 PM. At 5:01, it feels like release, freedom, get up and leave. Is this the right way to live the life. On the other side, a grihasta or house holder has duties to perform. Take care of one's family, provide for them the life style they are used to. Strive to provide at least. Therefore invariably, many end up doing what they do not enjoy to make the life style demanded by their circumstances. Many a times it does feel like the camel walking slow with heavy burden that he has described. He hits the nail (swadharma) with the words "his dharma-be". Clearly stating that when one performs against his "dharma-be" as he calls it, results in lethargy, despair, etc. Seems in-line with the words from gita. The solution presented on the book, is prayer. Yes, prayer does help. So does meditation, yoga, etc. But, even after performing these (may be more time and patience is needed), one is struggling to find what his swadharma is. Trying to get the balance of performaing according to one's nature (if it is known) and balancing the needs (duties) that one has to perform towards his family & society. What is the way to find one's swadharma? What is the right duty for each person? How does one conclude some work is his swadharma or not? How to balance it with the duties of a house holder? The answers to my questions may already be there on gita itself, may be I can't grasp it. Would love to hear the views (answers?), from others on this topic... -
Someone used this expression here in a conversation on prostrations 'burning off bad karma'. Concepts of karma run pretty deep. How do you burn off bad karma? I'm not a complete believer in a Cosmic karma, but I do see forces at work be it cause & effect or my conscience. I'll help people when I can, often out of a sense of being a good person or you build the world you want to live in. Living well, I sacrifice a clutch of chickens in the form of a dozen going to some needy family through Heifer charity http://heifer.org/.
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I've been reading some discussions that compare different approaches to the Spiritual quest. One camp seems to consider the intellectual inquiry method (aka Jnana Yoga) to be superior to others, while the other camp seems to prefer the body-mind-energy method (aka Raja Yoga). I bring up the four yogas because this topic has been addressed in the Bhagavad Gita a few thousand years back. The Bhagavad Gita covers four different approaches to the spiritual quest - The devotional way aka Bhakti Yoga, The action without desire way - aka Karma Yoga (which essentially is Wu Wei approach) The mind-body-energy way - aka Raja Yoga The intellectual inquiry way - aka Jnana Yoga If you read a good commentary on the Bhagavad Gita (or if you know sanskrit the original document), you will realize that all the four ways are considered equally good. Paradoxically, the translations of the verses on each way says "This < > way is the superior way". When one reads only one section, they might come back with the impression that, that specific way is preferred over others. However, when taken into context of reading the entire book, it will become evident that specific characteristics are also mentioned about the type of person who might benefit from any one approach over the others. It depends on the mental, energetic and physical make-up of the seeker and no one way is absolutely better than another...it all depends
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Karma is something I hear allot about from others . Like " hey don't do that it will come back to you ". Or anything you do that is bad will come back to you some day and bad things will happen to you . here's a definition for Karma does anyone have first hand experience with this . ? evidence ? examples ? how can Karma be used in a beneficial way ? Does it even exist in the universe ?
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Hello together, and my apologies if this might be a stupid question, but having a more Christian + Buddhist background I am now wondering how to sort in such a concept like "karma" within the terms I've seen to be used in the context of Taoism. Frequently there seems to be the concept of "staying in the moment" and attaining some state of freedom, if you might express it that way. But, well, what about after you've seen the Tao if action and consequences don't have any meaning at all? You might "be" in one moment however aware you want to; if you do something that involves other beings that might have consequences, for the better or the worse. You can feel to be "in the moment" while giving someone a bit of chocolate; anyway they will like you, which might have consequences concerning their behaviour against you. Your "being aware" does not necessarily influence that course of action. You might otherwise feel you're staying in the moment and do something that is considered to be negative, like slapping someone into the face, which might have negative consequences lateron. There is a connection in that overall, for if you would not just "feel" to "be completely aware in the present moment", but really be that, this would have consequences on how you would act. The problem about that is that, well, how many people are out there who completely realized the Tao, so you could watch how persons would behave and what kind of decisions they would make when they have the Tao (which should be that state of complete awareness that's never deluded I'd guess)? Some question might be, of course, whether what I describe with that awareness is so important in Taoism at all, or whether that's a very incomplete understanding of mine; and, furthermore, if there is no idea of "karma" in a way that like action and consequences - if there should not be something like that - what concept would a Taoist use to adjust his behaviour in any way? And, ehm, is that question understandable at all? Curious for some potentially new insights and wishing you all the best Yascra
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Wanted to give everyone a head's up. I just discovered today that the book Changing Destiny: Liao Fan's 4 Lessons - with commentary by Venerable Master Chin Kung is available for Amazon's Kindle for only 99 cents. Unfortunately B&N doesn't offer it. Only ebook version I've found so far is the one for Kindle. You can however get a different translation (no commentary) as used copies at both B&N and Amazon as a paperback (I own it also). Four Essays on Karma by Yuen Liao Fan
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It's hard to believe/understand in Reincarnation and Karma when?!?!
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You got this type of stuff going on... "<b>The Girl Next Door</b>." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Next_Door_(2007_film) http://technorati.com/entertainment/film/article/the-girl-next-door-is-an/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830558/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Baniszewski "<b>The Afflicted</b>." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Afflicted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Knorr http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566637/ http://theringmastersrealm.blogspot.com/2012/05/serial-killer-theresa-knorr-disturbing.html There are many more stories like it, but seriously, when reality hits you in the face, it's hard to understand humanity and to interpret what is going on in this world or outside of it.- 188 replies
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So you humans keep eradicating Ants and destroying their colonies. they will reincarnate as and infiltrate the lifeways of humans. they are evident in politics. So you figured in the past that it was okay to wield dominion over nature and systemically hunt and eat the Dodo and mar the Buffalo for her fur. So the Dodo stuck around and made fools of you all but you called those poor children stupid, the Buffalo is born a man who refuses to acknowledge other men, and you call it autism! So Your history tells it one way, when it really happened quite differently... no doubt about it, the so-called reptillians (dont make me laugh) oy. you cannot even comprehend how your science could be lying to you about the dinosaurs. Raptors were so brilliant and beautiful people, and you wiped them out. genocide. you deserve their indignant retribution. END YOUR HARMFUL LIFEWAYS!
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Tuning In - Spirit Channelers in America (I don't know if I should believe?) Do you?
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