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Dear Dao Bums, I would like to ask you, if you can help me crack this nut (get ready for a mystery hunt!): 1) The year is 1991. The month is between the end of October and the beginning of December. The place is Sulaymaniyah, Iraqi Kurdistan. 2) The exact month, day and time is unknown 3) How can this be found? (the correct birth month, day and time). There are no available birth records, as there was war between the Kurds and Iraqi arabs at the time of birth. The mother cannot remember, as she is old, and her story changes each time we ask her. I have tried I Ching consultation with a world famous I Ching practitioner, and it didn't help. The I Ching simply implied the birth was during a time of "thunder", which made sense as there was a war at the time. I also asked another qigong master, who ascertained that through I Ching calculation, the birth day and time could be find, but it didn't work either. There remains (from my point of view) no more "normal" options for ascertaining the birth day. All living relatives have been tried, their info's have been cross-examined with each other and with the historical records, they don't match up, so they've been deemed "untrustworthy". There are no available "official records" from Kurdistan because of the war. The person in question is registered, but the official registry is notoriously untrustworthy. They deem only the amount of people born as the important information, not they day, time etc (this opinion is shared by medical staff). That's why everyone in Kurdistan is either born on the 1st of July or the 1st of November (back in the day). The registering office simply put 1st of July for everyone born in the first half of the year, and 1st of November for everyone for the second half of the year. This is something I've been battling with for about 1 year, trying to find the birth date through logical deduction and analysis, interviews etc. After so much research, I've reached the temporary conclusion, that it's time to try spiritual ways of finding out the birth date. That's why I've tried 2 qigong masters and 1 hindu swami. The hindu swami actually managed to make 2 years of prediction for her (the woman in question), which has actually been true so far (about 1 year has passed). But when I asked him about the birth day he found, he couldn't find his calculations (he is 78 years old). I think he found the day of birth using tantric methods of communicating with and controlling spirits (disembodied souls), because he asked for a picture of the girl, birth name and current name, as well as her mother's name. This thing with the mother's name is something I've learnt from sufis is a way to use spirits to find the information for you. I saw him recently, as he visited my country, but I could tell he was very tired from 1) his age, 2) how much work he was doing here during his short visit and 3) tired from traveling, jet lag, food changes etc. So we had about 1 hour session with him, where he mostly used palmistry and numerolgy to give us advice (free of charge.. he's a good man! He's been the most loving, helping, compassionate and useful "spiritual guru" of all the qigong masters, hindu masters etc. I've reached out to for help the past couple of years). So he didn't have the time nor energy to get up at night at 3 o'clock and do whatever black magic ritual was needed to re-contact the spirits and find the birth info. So he simply used palmistry and numerology to advice her, and then gave us some blessings (mantras, water, flowers and fruits). Now my question to you guys: 1) Do you know a spiritual way of finding out the correct birth month, day and time? 2) Do you know someone, who knows a way? Then I could reach out to them Thanks for your help! Be blessed by the Divine