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In the past, zhineng qigong was highly regarded among posters here. I just found out both level 1 and level 2 are on sale on udemy for $10 (each): https://www.udemy.com/course/zhineng-qigong-body-mind-form/ Just thought I'd let you all know c:

Hello, There are already some topics similar to this one, and I have read them, but still I felt that my questions weren't answered, so I decided to register on the forum and ask them myself. Originally I planned to send it as a DM to @steve, but I decided to post it openly, so anyone else that has experience with both systems can contribute if they wish to do so. That being said, I'd really appreciate your input @steve. I'm a Yungdrung Bon practitioner. My practice, at least when it comes to working with channels and energy, consists of tsa lung exercises from Magyud, Zhang Zhung Nyengyud trul khor and tummo from Ku Sum Rang Shar (for now the general and special preliminaries only). Recently I have begun to dabble a bit in qigong, with some local instructor and their teacher that visits us from time to time. We seem to do mostly alignment stuff for now, opening the kua, wall squats and the like, as well as some basic forms. Even at that really basic level my qigong practice really enhanced my body, my energy levels and general well-being, in a way that my Tibetan yoga practice didn't seem to address. I get many benefits from doing yoga of course, but it just has a different feel and effect upon my mind and body. I'd describe it like using different sets of muscles, metaphorically speaking. I want to continue my qigong practice, as I found it rewarding and complementary to my other endeavours, but I'm worried it can cause some problems down the line. I've read the injunctions against mixing systems from both traditions, so understandably that is concerning to me, as of course I will continue on the path of Tibetan yoga. From your point of view - practitioners that have practiced in both traditions - can they be mixed safely or not? (by mixing I don't mean doing them in one session, but for example qigong one day, yoga the other, or qigong in the evening and yoga in the morning etc.) If so - what is the qigong system that you would recommend for someone like me? I was thinking about the Zhineng Qigong (simply because of the availability of online teachings), but I read that the teacher advised against mixing it with other qigong system, not to mention other traditions. Secondly, do you think that the Tibetan approach is lacking in certain respects? I don't mean to offend anyone, or the teachings. I consider myself a dedicated practitioner, I've taken refuge vows, but I can't help but wonder that the Tibetan systems are forceful and fiery to the extreme, pure yang, while the Daoist systems seem more balanced. At least that is my limited, entry-level understanding, as I am an expert in neither. I'd appraciate any guidance I can get, and thanks for getting through this long post _/\_

Hi Everyone, I am looking for a good avenue to learn Zhineng Qigong, for both self healing & well being, and to assist others in their healing journeys. I am aware that personal instruction is the best, but it seems most teachers in the West are doing instruction online. I have found an interesting course offering by Master Yuantong Liu who was taught by Dr Pang Ming and worked in the Huaxia medicine-less hospital for 10 years, and Britta Stalling (Body & Mind Factory). The program seems quite comprehensive and includes the first few levels of Zhineng Qigong, including Hold Qi Up, Pour Qi Down Method, Separate Body and mind, Eight Verses Life Meditation, organising the chi field, qi core improvement, five Zang organs chanting, 3 gates, Fa Qi (Qi emission), amongst other methods. The full course outline can be seen in the link above. It is a 2-year commitment, with both online & 2 in-person workshops (in Europe), as well as theory modules. There is a certification process at the end to become a certified hunyuan qi therapist. Does anyone have insight whether this is a good program to do? Are there alternatives that teach the same content? Warm Regards

I have been looking for resources on Soaring Crane and they are hard to find. It was supposedly practiced by 20 million people at one time in China. What happened to it? I have found some teachers online, such as Torben Bremann, but books are basically non-existent. Dr. Pang Ming originally taught Soaring Crane before he developed Zhineng. I started seriously practicing Zhineng over 2 years ago, stopped for a while, then started again. I originally started Zhineng because it was supposed to be safe and effective. My research, including comments here on The Bums, lead me to believe it was one of the best systems. But, I'm just not feeling it. I think I had better results with Master Lam Kam Chuen's Zhan Zhuang and Ba Duan Jin, which I continue to do. But, I'm looking for more moving practices that are coordinated with visualization and breathing. I also practice Mantak Chia's 13 Movement Tai Chi Chi Kung, but I have doubts about his system as a whole, although, I do like some other parts of it. I'm looking for a really good movement system that gets the Qi going to counterbalance my seated meditation practice. Right now in week 3 of 10 of Wim Hof's Fundamentals course. To sum things up, I'm a married householder with school aged kids and limited time looking for an efficient system of practices to cultivate Qi, have a calm focused mind, and ultimately become awakened. So, back to the original question, Is Soaring Crane a good system with an active community? Or, are there other systems my fellow Bums would recommend?

Dear all, after having practised Fragrant Qigong for more than 5 months without even skipping a day, I have decided to stop as I did not feel any benefits (at least none that were tangible for me).As easy as it was, I was also getting a bit tired of the restrictions with this qigong. I would like to practice/learn Zhineng qigong, starting of course with Level 1. I see that there are 4 forms included in level 1. My questions: 1. Do I have to do all 4 forms each time? Or can I also only do 1 form (or 2 or 3), time-depending? 2. How long does each fo the 4 forms take to do? Any other tips are always greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robert

Just wanted to start a thread here specifically devoted to Zhineng Qi Gong. I discovered this system in the spring of this year and have been practicing regularly since May. There are a few threads on here that mention it but no one thread devoted to it, so I thought I would start it up. Cheers! D

What are all the benefits of wall squats In zhineng qigong they say if you do 100 everyday you can heal every physical health problem - is it true ? can it heal stuff like my dust allergy ? can it improve eyesight ? can this exercise alone help give a person a perfect posture without doing anything else ? what about 50 wall-squats a day ? what about 200 a day ? what are the effect of those ? and how did they reach 100 squats *at a time* (in the book "methods of zhineng qigong) as the recommended amount ? how different in benefits a 100 at a time is than 100 a day ( i know of people who do a 100 a day not a time are they missing out - in case they can do it all a single time ?) ? and for those who did/do it - how do you keep track to do a 100 ? wondering about doing this for as much as i can so extending it to maybe 2 hours a day maybe even 4 or 5 etc - and i wonder if this excerice can stand by its own as a "practice" or its just supplementary does it help in sexual transmutation ? would love to get all the benefits this exercise can have --- would like also above what you know in thoery or heared about this exercise benefits to hear about personal benefits people experienced with this exercise ? also even though its not the main question if someone wants to add tips about best way to do it that can be good too (though main question is about the benefits of it)

How does Dr. Pang's Zhan Zhuang differ from Master Lam Kam Chuen's Zhan Zhuang? What difference does turning the toes inward make? My IT band is way to tight for that. Master Lam discourages the visualization of moving energy, but in 3 Centers one is to visualize energy entering through the head, hands, and feet then going into the lower dan tien.