Do a Conspiracy Really Exist?

[DalTheJigsaw123]

Do a Conspiracy Really Exist?

Edited June 11, 2009 by LeonBasin

[Desert Eagle]

Yes.

[DalTheJigsaw123]

Yes.

 

 

What kind???

[Desert Eagle]

There are all kinds of conspiracies so it might be better to identify what category.

 

But in the end it is better to cultivate the positive and focus on the solutions, but it would help to know the problems in order to know the solutions. According to "Discussions with Dr. Yan Xin" you cannot achieve a tranquil qigong state unless you forget all your burdens at least temporarily:

 

http://www.meaningoflife.i12.com/taichi.htm

 

 

 

Edit:maybe not.

[Sunya]

if a conspiracy theory existed, it wouldn't really be a conspiracy theory anymore, now would it?

[froggie]

there are many kinds of actual conspiracies (people working together against others) and i think it contributes a great deal to what is wrong to a great degree amongst people. (religious conspiracies, certain groups, slave trafficing, etcetera)

 

and it's not good for the human health and mentality either, with such cause and effect outcomes such as scepticism as a way of life, distrust, paranoia, selfishness because there are so many others who do things wrong, etc

 

as for conspiracy theories .... they are theories, some of them are likely true. i would have to objectively guess.

some may be conspiracies against conspiracy theories themselves, (like cover ups) which makes things even more nasty and complicated

 

however, if in the end it comes out, that's all that (most of what) mattered, if it's made totally right again at least (truely compensated, etcetera .... so the less there are and the shorter they are the better for all probably. but some won't want that. that is probably also a reason why knowing about an after life is also not common knowledge

 

it all fits together. (and this is my tiny angled theory of the conspiracy theory

[Desert Eagle]

Mikaelz, did you notice the masonic and illuminati imagery in the trial scene of "Encounter at Far Point"?

[DalTheJigsaw123]

if a conspiracy theory existed, it wouldn't really be a conspiracy theory anymore, now would it?

 

 

This is true!

[Dainin]

Do a Conspiracy Really Exist?

 

No, everything is under control!

[DalTheJigsaw123]

No, everything is under control!

 

I wish it wasn't:!)

Edited June 13, 2009 by LeonBasin

[EleuComatose]

Well, personally, I believe that Lyndon Johnson acted under orders of the Illuminati to assassinate John Connally with a magic bullet fired by the Manchurian Candiate, as he knew top-secret information regarding the events of Roswell, global warming being a government creation, the Pope being the antichrist, and fluoride being placed in the public water supply to enslave the populace at large.

 

Oh, and I believe America's war on terror is a cover-up, and the fighting in the middle east comes down to the acquisition of one precious commodity: soylent green.

 

But other then that, no, there are no conspiracy theories. Such thoughts are a crime. Double plus ungood.

[DalTheJigsaw123]

Well, personally, I believe that Lyndon Johnson acted under orders of the Illuminati to assassinate John Connally with a magic bullet fired by the Manchurian Candiate, as he knew top-secret information regarding the events of Roswell, global warming being a government creation, the Pope being the antichrist, and fluoride being placed in the public water supply to enslave the populace at large.

 

Oh, and I believe America's war on terror is a cover-up, and the fighting in the middle east comes down to the acquisition of one precious commodity: soylent green.

 

But other then that, no, there are no conspiracy theories. Such thoughts are a crime. Double plus ungood.

 

 

A lot of beliefs I see! Are you into Alex Jones?

[Desert Eagle]

Alex Jones is a conspiracy.

 

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&h...amp;btnG=Search

[EleuComatose]

Were Alex Jones a government tool, it would suprise me little.

[DalTheJigsaw123]

Were Alex Jones a government tool, it would suprise me little.

 

Many says yes, and many say no. Who knows?

[Josh Young]

The best lunatic conspiracy is that conspiracy is for lunatics.

Gerald Ford had a bit to say about what he knew.

 

Apparently when he was in charge of the Warren Commission he openly covered up facts to protect the nation from the truth. He did not report the facts that members of the Warren commission did not agree with the official version of events.

 

Many of the documents of the case will not be released until 2017, by then the man implicated by the circumstances and facts as the leader and organizer of the killing, himself a former president, may be dead.

 

It is now no secret that 4 of the 7 members of the warren commission found fault with its conclusions and were skeptics themselves, but the fact that the majority of the the commission members distrusted the findings was not made public at the time of the report.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

 

you can read how full of holes the commission was.

 

Conspiracy? The members of the commission felt there was. Gerald Ford later said there was. Governor Connally changed his testimony over the years about the events. Of course that is in relation to a single event.

 

If there is a conspiracy it pertains to the founding fathers of the US and who and what they were like. These racist slave holding lawyers are worshiped now, but in their own time were controversial figures, as was the constitution. George Washington helped promote anti-slavery laws in several colonies while not passing them in his home state where he was the largest slave owner in the States at the time. The hypocrisy and evil deeds of the founders is the subject of much conspiracy in the Untied States. We seek to worship men who were politicians no less corrupt than those we know today. Indeed a conspiracy against the people, by the founders, can be found in the very transcripts of the debate of congressional convention which had not convened to create a constitution. The founders state that they are bitterly opposed to democracy and that a wealthy elite must be set up as stewards of the people in a way that ensures they shall retain power. The result was economic aristocracy and the class division inherent in the States today.

 

Conspiracy abounds, but it is not theoretical except in promulgation, for in promulgation an ideal or theory must be had to bring into effect. For that matter however conspiracy is found in every culture and group, so the US is no exception. For this reason, the fact that conspiracy has existed as long as rule has, the only idea of conspiracy that is utterly ridiculous is the idea that they don't exist.

[DalTheJigsaw123]

The best lunatic conspiracy is that conspiracy is for lunatics.

Gerald Ford had a bit to say about what he knew.

 

Apparently when he was in charge of the Warren Commission he openly covered up facts to protect the nation from the truth. He did not report the facts that members of the Warren commission did not agree with the official version of events.

 

Many of the documents of the case will not be released until 2017, by then the man implicated by the circumstances and facts as the leader and organizer of the killing, himself a former president, may be dead.

 

It is now no secret that 4 of the 7 members of the warren commission found fault with its conclusions and were skeptics themselves, but the fact that the majority of the the commission members distrusted the findings was not made public at the time of the report.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

 

you can read how full of holes the commission was.

 

Conspiracy? The members of the commission felt there was. Gerald Ford later said there was. Governor Connally changed his testimony over the years about the events. Of course that is in relation to a single event.

 

If there is a conspiracy it pertains to the founding fathers of the US and who and what they were like. These racist slave holding lawyers are worshiped now, but in their own time were controversial figures, as was the constitution. George Washington helped promote anti-slavery laws in several colonies while not passing them in his home state where he was the largest slave owner in the States at the time. The hypocrisy and evil deeds of the founders is the subject of much conspiracy in the Untied States. We seek to worship men who were politicians no less corrupt than those we know today. Indeed a conspiracy against the people, by the founders, can be found in the very transcripts of the debate of congressional convention which had not convened to create a constitution. The founders state that they are bitterly opposed to democracy and that a wealthy elite must be set up as stewards of the people in a way that ensures they shall retain power. The result was economic aristocracy and the class division inherent in the States today.

 

Conspiracy abounds, but it is not theoretical except in promulgation, for in promulgation an ideal or theory must be had to bring into effect. For that matter however conspiracy is found in every culture and group, so the US is no exception. For this reason, the fact that conspiracy has existed as long as rule has, the only idea of conspiracy that is utterly ridiculous is the idea that they don't exist.

 

Wow, quite interesting. Thank you so much! Do you know of any other Conspiracies?

[Josh Young]

Read the very definition of the word and ask yourself the question that is the title of this thread. Does the following exist?

1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

2. A group of conspirators.

3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.

4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design:

 

Note that the very word conspiracy does not entail secrecy as a major part of the definition. Now what of government conspiracy?

 

What do you know about the Iran contra affair?

Did you know that it was testified that the CIA imports drugs to sell to be able to buy the weapons that were given to the Iranian terrorists in exchange for hostages and just as aid in general? Oliver North admitted conspiring to perform illegal acts, he was of course given a pardon by Reagan. Several white house names have been dropped by cocaine traffickers and a CIA jet used to transfer people to secret US torture prisons crashed in Mexico the other year with a great deal of cocaine aboard.

 

Military people in asia have reported that heroin traffickers said they did business with white hour officials (reagan years)and that without the help they received from them they could never ship heroin from remote third world nations into the US.

 

A mafia mans daughter gave testimony a few years ago that her dad was involved in trafficking drugs with one of the same men who is said to be involved in the JFK killing and these other cases of drug importation. That man is a former president who used to run the CIA. (now there is a law abiding organization...)

 

The mafia daughter also said that man did business with Noriega, which is interesting because he took Noriega down. But the man also did business with Osama Bin Ladin and later had his son go to war against him. That same man supported Saddam, but was in the oil business himself, so when Kuwait slant drilled into the Iraqi oil across the border and Saddam retaliated with military force then that same man mentioned before started an oil war in 1991 that is still costing lives here in 2009. Of course oil companies love this guy because he made them more money than ever before, he even saw too it that they got no bid contracts in the war effort. If I believed in an Antichrist, I'd say that the man I am talking about is him.

 

 

It seems that where there is money to be made illegally, people conspire.

 

 

The governments of the world deny all wrong doing no matter what. They all have a policy of conspiracy.

 

Did the Nazi's admit the holocaust? Many still deny it despite the overt proof.

 

Consider how China conspires to prevent the acknowledgment of Tienanmen square massacre.

 

Or perhaps the the US secret prisons across the world where we take people to be tortured and killed. These are known to exist.

 

There is no end to it. It is worth accepting as a fact of life and moving on rather than dwelling on the simple fact that you cannot believe what governments tell you. Propaganda is a very old technique.

 

Here is a conspiracy of which you may not know.

In media theory education it is said the purpose of the information or news media is not to inform, but rather to persuade. The whole goal is to present news in a manner to achieve a desired effect. Thus the gatekeepers of media, those who decide what information you will be presented with have final say over what you see and hear and they follow the will of their employer. It turns out the media in the US is owned by very few interests, nearly all of them conservative. Check out the ownership if you want to dig deeper, it can lead you to a lot of curious information.

 

Microsoft has released fixed which crash competitor programs, you can bet that was the result of conspiring minds. They were convicted of anti-trust and then that conviction was overturned, again the result of conspiracy.

 

What are you gonna do about it?

 

And for the record I think Alex Jones is a tool and that he is not to be trusted. His agenda is questionable.

Edited June 22, 2009 by Josh Young

[Desert Eagle]

[Satori]

Yes, it "do".

 

Goes back to Cain and Able. For the Cain group the earth shall bear no fruit. For the Able group (living in God's grace) it does.

 

Cain is the G8 (Bush and his cronies) They control the wars on earth. They TAKE what they need.

 

Able is the G7 (literally a group of 7 people, and not the 7 who are presented publicly) They control world finance. They keep the G8 in check to the best of their ability but at this level everything between them is transparent.

 

All just games.

 

The G8's time is up though. That is why they "went for it" so hard the last few years.

 

Of course they will still bring in hoards of money through the fourth world (drugs, child porn, snuff films, human slavery, and organ harvesting). Hell, that money actually keeps the system working.

 

Anyway, things are changing at a fundamental level, beyond the control of the G8. So just hang tight as the truth of who we really are unfolds. It'll be swell.

 

The veil is thinning...

[DalTheJigsaw123]

Thank you all for responding!

[magus]

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Edited July 8, 2010 by magus

[DalTheJigsaw123]

Interesting.

[gendao]

AP Exclusive: IRS knew tea party targeted in 2011

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senior Internal Revenue Service officials knew agents were targeting tea party groups as early as 2011, according to a draft of an inspector general's report obtained by The Associated Press that seemingly contradicts public statements by the IRS commissioner.

 

The IRS apologized Friday for what it acknowledged was "inappropriate" targeting of conservative political groups during the 2012 election to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status. The agency blamed low-level employees, saying no high-level officials were aware.

 

But on June 29, 2011, Lois G. Lerner, who heads the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt organizations, learned at a meeting that groups were being targeted, according to the watchdog's report. At the meeting, she was told that groups with "Tea Party," ''Patriot" or "9/12 Project" in their names were being flagged for additional and often burdensome scrutiny, the report says.

 

The 9/12 Project is a group started by conservative TV personality Glenn Beck. In a statement to the AP, Beck suggested that the revelations were hardly news to him and other conservatives.

 

"In February 2012, TheBlaze first reported what the IRS now admits to — that they unfairly targeted conservative groups including the 9/12 project," Beck said, citing his website and TV network. "It is nice to see everyone else playing catch-up and finally asking the same questions that TheBlaze started raising over a year ago."

 

On Jan, 25, 2012, the criteria for flagging suspect groups was changed to, "political action type organizations involved in limiting/expanding Government, educating on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, social economic reform/movement," the report says.

 

Rep. Charles Boustany, R-La., chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee's oversight subcommittee, said the report "raises serious questions as to who at IRS, Treasury and in the administration knew about this, why this practice was allowed to continue for as long as it did, and how widespread it was."

 

"This timeline reveals at least two extremely unethical actions by the IRS. One, as early as 2010, they targeted groups for political purposes. Two, they willfully and knowingly lied to Congress for years despite being aware that Congress was investigating this practice," Boustany said.

 

"This is an outrageous abuse of power. Going after organizations for referencing the Bill of Rights or expressing the intent to make this country a better place is repugnant," Boustany added. "There is no excuse for this behavior."

 

The group Tea Party Patriots said the revelation was proof that the IRS had lied to Congress and the public when Schulman said there had been no targeting of tea party groups.

 

"We must know how many more lies they have been telling and how high up the chain the cover-up goes," Jenny Beth Martin, national coordinator for the group Tea Party Patriots, said in a statement Saturday.

 

"It appears the IRS committed crimes and violated our ability to exercise our First Amendment right to free speech. A simple apology is not sufficient reparation for violating the constitutional rights of United States citizens.

 

Many conservative groups complained during the 2012 election that they were being harassed by the IRS. They accused the agency of frustrating their attempts to become tax exempt by sending them lengthy, intrusive questionnaires.

 

The forms, which the groups have made available, sought information about group members' political activities, including details of their postings on social networking websites and about family members.

 

In some cases, the IRS acknowledged, agents inappropriately asked for lists of donors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTA9ab4O42M

Edited May 12, 2013 by vortex