froggie Posted June 15, 2009 http://www.h3x.no/2009/06/14/iranians-on-t...e-june-clashes/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
living mountain Posted June 15, 2009 http://www.h3x.no/2009/06/14/iranians-on-t...e-june-clashes/Â Â thanks for the link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted June 15, 2009 (edited) some great pictures (probably a lot better than the one's showing on the news channels)  http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/i...d_election.html   why a change for the better is always important qlYK2bRv9bg Edited June 22, 2009 by froggie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted June 16, 2009 one of the biggest iranian twitter bloggers: http://twitter.com/persiankiwi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soundhunter Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) It's been amazing, the twitter element of this uprising. The Iranians had no idea there were so many caring people in the US and the west in general, now they know. I could cry I'm so impressed with the bravery these people are showing. Anyways, here's where you can watch the twittering in real time, whether you're a twitterer or not Edited June 17, 2009 by soundhunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted June 19, 2009 The pirate bay has gone green as well  http://thepiratebay.org/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) I don't dare any specific judgement. I guess there are problems on both sides. On one side I could easily imagine the Iranian government committing voter fraud, on the other hand I understand why this is seen as necessary. The USA are waging a secret cold war so to speak. Astonishingly there even was an article in the local newspaper about how the USA support(ed) the Iranian MEK (some Mujaheddin) in Iraqi exile in their fight against the Iranian government. What irritated me a bit is that there are so many opportunities for Ahmadinejad to mention what's going on and he is very moderate instead. It already took some time for him to mention what the USA did 1953 and demand an apology for that. But of course many things might be delayed or filtered out by the media. And especially concerning the current turmoil nothing should be regarded as truth. Iran how it is today is to a big degree a construct of US imperialism. Just like the aggressive defense of China is partly Made in UK. Â One detail that was such a lame example of journalism: A young Iranian journalist said: All my friends voted for Mussawi! Where is my vote?! He should know that there are different classes of society and that just because all his friends voted for Mussawi that doesn't mean that the rest of the country also did. Reminds me of Venezuela where only the middle and upper class protested against Chavez and some even said that the poor people are poor because they're lazy and don't know what hard work is. Â So ... as I said ... better learn about the causes of the problems instead of the symptoms. Iran should really be left alone, but that won't happen because a usual strategy is to incite all this fear in your enemy to make them look evil. Some Israeli politicians are even so daring (because they can) as to openly say that they welcome religious radicals, because they keep the concept of the enemy alive. When you understand the basics, everything else is just noise. Edited June 21, 2009 by Hardyg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh Young Posted June 21, 2009 Wow, I had no idea that Iran's elections were as bunk as those of the United States. Do they have an electoral college set up to prevent democracy as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted June 22, 2009 not sure if this is real or not, but interesting  ballot fraud video  g6nPCO4i3PA  Translations: Guy 1 (0:30): Finished?? Oh god, he wasn't lucky, no votes for Mohsen Rezayi (the other conservative candidate). Bad luck. inaudible Guy 2: Write down these names, Guy 1 (1:50): Their national identify codes are all wrong. Guy 2: It is ok Guy 1: Ok just tell me the rest Guy 2: Write down these names and put something for the family name like Guy 1: Mohamadi Guy 2: Fathers name (with an ideferent tone) Alimohammad. Starts counting random numbers as the birth certificate number  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6nPCO4i3PA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted June 22, 2009 By CHRISTOPHER RHOADS in New York and LORETTA CHAO in Beijing  "The Iranian regime has developed, with the assistance of European telecommunications companies, one of the world's most sophisticated mechanisms for controlling and censoring the Internet, allowing it to examine the content of individual online communications on a massive scale."  ...more on site http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1245626687...icle-outset-box Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted June 22, 2009 Brave people: aAiM6XR_mxM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAiM6XR_mxM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted June 26, 2009 we must go - dont know when we can get internet - they take 1 of us, they will torture and get names - now we must move fast - #Iranelection8:34 AM Jun 24th from web  from: http://twitter.com/persiankiwi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) Are you aware that the US government makes great efforts in the area of information warfare, especially in connection with the new technologies? It is amazing how much they themselves even admit and how they don't want to leave any development to chance. There's so little credible information. It makes no sense to get excited over what's being reported right now, especially in media that is typically accessed by the masses. Â You have to consider that it even took five decades before some people mentioned the coup of 1953 in somewhat mass media, and still it is miraculously overheard in the avalanche of media noise. Why do you think the truth about this will come out in the near future? Â Furthermore... why even wait for those details? The whole thing is just the forseeable consequence of forces that are well known for half an eternity. It's hardly more than finally watching an announced and promoted play on the world stage. Edited June 26, 2009 by Hardyg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted August 8, 2009 Iran: 115 executions since elections  Posted: 07 August 2009  'Alarming spike' in numbers represents 'significant increase', says Amnesty  The eight weeks between the presidential election on 12 June and the inauguration of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for a second term as president on 5 August saw an alarming spike in the number of executions by the Iranian authorities, Amnesty International said today.  Amnesty International Secretary General Irene Khan said:  'In just over 50 days, we recorded no less that 115 executions - an average of more than two each day  http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=18367 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted August 8, 2009 "From the start of 2009 up to 12 June, Amnesty International recorded at least 196 executions in Iran, placing the country second in the world behind China for the number of executions carried out." Â Hm, then it must have been the number of executions relative to total population that's higher in the USA than in China. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
