Jetsun Posted June 5, 2013 Monasteries do help people conserve and sublimate their sexual energy, but this is done not because women are trying to take their energy but so monks don't get stimulated by the sight of women because if that happens the energy and consciousness goes into the sexual region where it is difficult to get out from, as they are trying to evolve to the higher centres. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billb Posted June 6, 2013 I think several of the latest posts show the reason for the existence of monasteries and monks. These things didn't just arbitrarily develop over the centuries lol. The fact that sex hinders spiritual development is why the celibate path is seen as the most efficacious route towards enlightenment. Is this to say that as a householder you can't make progress? no. But if the monastic life generally allows one to go further and faster, which is why it exists. From personal experience the results from celibacy and meditation are much more profound, and its not only the conservation of jing and qi that makes a difference, but also the mind is freed up from all of the additional distractions as well. Yea that's where I was going with that. You were of that opinion in the first place, and simply proselytized your own opinion lol, which is what most people do.. I don't know if its unpopular at all, actually it was my opinion that the other point of view was generally less popular. I don't think people enjoy thinking they can be affected by others to such a degree. Proselytized? Where? I simply thanked Jetsun for sharing a view from one of the most profound energy healers he has ever been around and found it valuable (for me) and I guess you took offense because it is a different view point from your own. I thought the taobums discussion board was here for us so we could discuss different view points. I guess if I thanked you for sharing info because I found it helpfull with a particular view point this would be proselytizing also? We can agree to disagree no big deal and no need to ridicule I am not trying to convert anyone ( definition of proselytize) I have been around taobums for years and this was the first time I read a post like this, found it valuable for me and thanked him for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Seems kind of hard on us married men. Energy flows through, but it is not draining. Yes, energy flows... 'Draining' one day, 'replenishment' the next... isn't that the tao of life? Nothing to worry about really. People get spooked (from misinformation) only due to too much unnecessary analysis. Then, they miss the beauty of being drained, hahaha! When i get drained, i come alive!! Edited June 6, 2013 by C T 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Posted June 6, 2013 Proselytized? Where? I simply thanked Jetsun for sharing a view from one of the most profound energy healers he has ever been around and found it valuable (for me) and I guess you took offense because it is a different view point from your own. I thought the taobums discussion board was here for us so we could discuss different view points. I guess if I thanked you for sharing info because I found it helpfull with a particular view point this would be proselytizing also? We can agree to disagree no big deal and no need to ridicule I am not trying to convert anyone ( definition of proselytize) I have been around taobums for years and this was the first time I read a post like this, found it valuable for me and thanked him for it. Proselytized? Where? Actually it reconfirmed my opinion That's pretty much the definition of proselytizing your own opinion. Agreeing with what someone said because you agreed with that opinion already. I guess you took offense because it is a different view point from your own Not at all, I simply made an observation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) A nice theory about this "cold draining" phenomena. The girl puts her attention on you, thus sending energy to you. ---> ( ) This energy takes your shape... ---> ( ) ...and comes back to the lady as soon as she start fantasizing about you. ( ) <--- If your mind is not trained, you will unconsciously identify with this shade... ---> [( ) ] ...and when she has you in mind, you have her in mind. Where the Yi of intention goes... <--- Of course, other powerful forces play the game, but this is what you feel as "qi going outside" and "noticing the woman shortly after". Mantra means protection of the mind and it prevents your mind from identifying with the shadow Edited June 6, 2013 by DAO rain TAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Apech Posted June 6, 2013 A nice theory about this "cold draining" phenomena. The girl puts her attention on you, thus sending energy to you. ---> ( ) This energy takes your shape... ---> ( ) ...and comes back to the lady as soon as she start fantasizing about you. ( ) <--- If your mind is not trained, you will unconsciously identify with this shade... ---> [( ) ] ...and when she has you in mind, you have her in mind. Where the Yi of intention goes... <--- Of course, other powerful forces play the game, but this is what you feel as "qi going outside" and "noticing the woman shortly after". Mantra means protection of the mind and it prevents your mind from identifying with the shadow I think this is interesting but rather oddly makes the man completely passive as if he is not oggling the girl ... and somehow the victim of the whole thing. Just the impression I got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted June 6, 2013 One of things women know is that men think they are being fancied when they arent. Women look at each other a lot. Women look to see how other women are doing their hair, or plucking their eyebrows, etc. Women look at men appraisingly too, the way women look at people in magazines. A womans attention is not a simple thing, not to be easily demoted. I got slightly distracted in pilates class last week, from looking at my teachers upper lip. She has a perfect cupids bow, but never colours her lips. I was looking at her mouth and thinking she looked a lot like edith piaf, but was not at all a little sparrow. I have no desire to snog her whatsoever. That's your story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) . Edited September 28, 2015 by 三江源 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted June 6, 2013 That's your story She's more your type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted June 6, 2013 She's more your type. I'd bend over backwards fro a Pilates teacher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted June 6, 2013 I think this is interesting but rather oddly makes the man completely passive as if he is not oggling the girl ... and somehow the victim of the whole thing. Just the impression I got. it would have been tough to add the awareness coefficient in all those steps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Cheshire Cat Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) I think this is interesting but rather oddly makes the man completely passive as if he is not oggling the girl ... and somehow the victim of the whole thing. Just the impression I got. Yes, maybe you're right. This was just a theory and it requires that the male have a very healthy sexual energy. Edited June 6, 2013 by DAO rain TAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted June 6, 2013 I'm afraid she is tremendously strict. Sounds even better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) A womans attention is not a simple thing, not to be easily demoted. Obviously, I referred to the lusty attention Edited June 6, 2013 by DAO rain TAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowsky Posted June 6, 2013 Disipline is meant to live life more fully, not less. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowsky Posted June 6, 2013 Disipline is meant to live life more fully, not less. Any man afraid of a vagina feeling the need to cover it up is not a master. lol OH MY....THE MIGHTY VAGINA.......IT'S STIRRING MY DEMONS! I have no POWER OVER THIS! it's the want to control, it's fear. It's stupid. It's insecurity. the world is full of it. I have to have power over you, because I can't do anything for myself and I am afraid that my feelings are more important then you freely moving about wearing a tank top. really, you have to cover up. I am a raging hormone that really has no power over his self or being. I don't know who I am. I'm really religious you see.....so i have no power over my genitalia...because....I am afraid of genitalia. I don't know anything about who I am inside and that makes me more Godlike then you. Now I will judge you for a while because I feel envious and repressed sexually....I hate you... LOL It's amazing the degree people feel the need to repress all sex. It makes them more happy you see...to not see things that make them feel inadiquate as human beings. Trina has a nicer but then Me....and if I see that I feel sorry for myself. I suppose it's easier that we do cover up..beacause people really just can't be happy with what they have anyways. graditude is the addutide! And I think monks should have some porn laying around. If they never face the desire for sex, or feelings.....then how can they defeat them? How can they release their lusts or passions? their wants for control or survival? hwo acan they release these feeling and thoughts, if they never somewhat dig them up? there can also be resentments there.. people do well having life experiences, triggers....things that catch the eye and stur the pot. Repression?? It's a subconcious time bomb...I really see no power in it. I see a false ceiling one can no longer rise above. a Plateu. And a man in a cage....No freedom in that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Maddie Posted June 6, 2013 Repression.... yes indeed a problem, but what is repression really? Is it just beginning to feel what you are really feeling as your energy level gets to the point for you to really start feeling it, and then distracting yourself from that by releasing that energy? Or is it when your energy level rises and you begin to feel what you really feel but then sitting with it and allowing yourself to feel it until you get to the bottom of it no matter how uncomfortable it may be? Which one is truly repression? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Maddie Posted June 6, 2013 What do you do if you really fancy your best friends girlfriend? I just remind myself that something must be wrong with her for liking him haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Maddie Posted June 7, 2013 That was actually my attempt at humor haha. Ok so what I'd really do is what I do these days anytime I find myself reacting to something no matter what it is, and stop and ask myself why I feel that way, as opposed to simply reacting. I'd go and meditate and see where and why I have this particular craving or desire. Just about every time what I thought it was at first dissolves into some facet of ego, and once I see through it as just a manifestation of ego then it dissipates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted June 7, 2013 one day a true hearts desire will find its way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
