froggie Posted August 13, 2009 I can't remember if i asked this before, but does anyone know the theory behind John Chang being able to move a chopstick through 2 inches of wood? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therion Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) ......... Edited August 27, 2009 by therion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h.uriahr Posted August 14, 2009 When the chopstick is infused with his yang qi it becomes like a hot knife going through butter. That's all there is to it, but you need to have yin yang gong to be able to project qi outside your body. Â I dont think that's necessarily the "law" when it comes to chi projection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted August 14, 2009 I dont think that's necessarily the "law" when it comes to chi projection. Â Care to go deeper into the subject? Â When the chopstick is infused with his yang qi it becomes like a hot knife going through butter. That's all there is to it, but you need to have yin yang gong to be able to project qi outside your body. Â Are there references available in book or dvd form or so also with some practises or so and even more thoery about yin yang gong and 'yang gong' ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enishi Posted August 14, 2009 Given the number of people who appear to be able to project qi, I'm not so sure about them needing to have yin/yang gong. Maybe its just a certain condensed form of more physical qi projection which requires yin/yang gong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kronos Posted August 14, 2009 you don't have to be level 4 to protect your "energy". forget about theory and just try to move your energy through lao gong into the chopstick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) You mean lao gong as from the acupuncture point ? http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=PC8 http://bigheavenlittleheaven.com/qi%20gong%20notes.htm Edited August 14, 2009 by froggie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kronos Posted August 15, 2009 yes, it's the fire point of fire meridian. you have to move the energy from your stomach area up to your shoulder and then out through lao gong. if you have "blockages" in your arm's channels do you should do a lot of SENKONG. I can't find any good video on senkong in the net, maybe you do. If not, just move your arms up and down in front of your body VERY VERY slowly. Breath in while moving the arms up and breath out while moving them down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted August 15, 2009 as far as i begin to understand there are also 2 'selves', Â one is more or less unconcious and concious at the same time, and tries to do things by the mind and what it has learned, this is the self that is dependent and helpless and looking for the outside to help it. Â the other is unconcious and at the same time concious as well and can do things that the one with only the mind can not do, it can do things like control the heart rate and breath, feel energy, decide what it wants to feel, etc. this is the self that is independent and can provide for itself and isn't dependent on the outside. it is really more in control of the self than the other one is, the other one is more like helpless and controlled. Â both are 'real', but they can not both be operating at the same time, because that could maybe be too conflicting. Â maybe we could call them ''states of being'', those particulars selves. Â the second mentioned self seems to be dormant for most people at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) yes, it's the fire point of fire meridian. you have to move the energy from your stomach area up to your shoulder and then out through lao gong. if you have "blockages" in your arm's channels do you should do a lot of SENKONG. I can't find any good video on senkong in the net, maybe you do. If not, just move your arms up and down in front of your body VERY VERY slowly. Breath in while moving the arms up and breath out while moving them down.  I don't know if it's a correct form, but here is one: KpMUMy9i-QA  and it's from this user, who maybe has some other nice videos also http://www.youtube.com/user/leomashin  and here is the same one as a file http://www.dragonslist.com/gallery/showima...?i=1039&c=1 Edited August 15, 2009 by froggie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kronos Posted August 15, 2009 I'll have a look at the videos later. I just remembered having this on my harddrive (file from 5. ‎Januar ‎2005) ... No idea where I got it from...   SENKONG EXERCISE -------------------------------  Horse stance a little more than shoulder-wide, arms hanging down at the sides.  Arms are raised parallely in front of the body while turning the palms until the palms are at shoulder-heigth facing upwards, arms nearly stretched. The elbows are hanging naturally to the side of the body. The distance between the hands is at least one foot. The natural position would be like when holding a log on the hands in front of the body. Note that the hands are turned very slowly and face upwards only at the end of the first raising move. During the move, get "lighter" (original advice, interpreted as stretching a little bit from the horse stance) and lean forward as much as possible ("get the weight to the front").  Elbows are drawn to the hip while the forearms stay horizontally parallel, the weight is put to the middle between the feet.  Hands are moved upwards in front of the body with open palms until the hands are drawn in a circular move over and behind the head, the weight is put to the back side of the feet as much as possible in the end of the move when the hands get behind the head.  Same move in the opposite direction, the hands are dropped in front of the body until the arms hang to the side again. During the down move, get "heavier" (interpreted as sinking downward into the horse stance) and move the weight back to the middle.  Arms are raised to the sides, fingers are facing down, until palms are at shoulder height. Get "lighter", having the weight on the center of the knees (the strength feeling is on the knees, not on the thighs).  Stance is shifted to the right side until hip is over the right foot, arms stay raised. Upper body is turned/twisted to the left while the center of weight stays in place, the hip follows slightly, arms stay raised at the sides.  Upper body is turned back/untwisted moving the weight back to both feet, while the right hand stays in place, getting raised in front of the chest.  Stance is shifted to the left side until hip and weight is over the left foot. Right hand stays in front of the chest, left hand still stretched to the side. Upper body is turned/twisted to the right.  Upper body is turned back/untwisted moving the weight back to both feet, while the left hand stays in place, getting raised in front of the chest over the right hand.  Hands are moved down with the palms facing down until they reach the Dantien, while getting "heavy".  Hands are performing a scooping move in front of the Dantien and get raised back to the chest with the palms facing up, while getting "light".  Slight "pushing move" with the hands while the weight is brought to the front side of the feet.  Stance is shifted to the right side again until weight and hip is over the right foot, the right hand performs a circular move like rubbing a ball until both hands hold the ball in front of the chest, left hand above the ball with fingers facing right, right hand below the ball, fingers facing left.  Stance is shifted to the left side until weight and hip is over the left foot, the ball is turned until the left hand is below the ball, the right hand above.  Stance is shifted back to normal horse stance, ball stays in front of the chest. The hands are now moved downwards until they reach the Dantien, while the ball is shrinking. Get "heavier".  Get "lighter", while the arms are raised and stretched to the sides again with the fingers facing down until they reach shoulder height, then moved down again until they hang down at the sides. Get "neutral" during that.   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  The whole exercise is executed *extremely* slow, it should last about 20-30 minutes. When after some weeks or months the flowing feeling comes easier, the speed can be raised to reach a time between 15 and 20 minutes. Precision doesn't matter, tenselessnes and flowing is important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites