liminal_luke Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) My take. Self-development often proceeds unevenly and in an idiosyncratic manner, in a way that reflects a particular person´s talents, interests, and history.  When we value a certain aspect, it´s easy to believe that someone who isn´t acomplished in our pet area of interest couldn´t possibly be acomplished in some other way. And that´s just not true.   And so we get...authentic mystics who act out in sexually inappropriate ways, fat unathletic healers, people with boundless compassion and sucky tai chi...and on and on.  The takeaway lesson? When looking for a teacher I don´t demand all-around perfection. As long as the teacher has something I´d like more of in my life I´m good.  Liminal Edited February 27, 2015 by liminal_luke 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted March 3, 2015 Haha it's not the complexity of the question that's of concern ...  I see ... you have given part of yourself up to someone else ...  Peace, Jox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocco Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) I have never met anyone talking to have achieved anything valuable from him. Good point. My question: Who has achieved anything vauable (I'd like to specify: Visible, verifiable) from ANY teacher? Who has learned to successfully heal with Chi? From whom? Who has achieved the ability to knock out opponents (sparring or real) using Chi power? Which method? Who is able to send "Chi Balls" that really have an effect? How? Who is able to move or destroy objects using Chi? Or who is at least able making his body sweat in a chilly surrounding through meditation? Â Benchmarks shouldn't be applied to MC alone. Let's check all of the teachings out there! Edited July 3, 2015 by Rocco 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted July 3, 2015 Re: ----- "My question: Who has achieved anything vauable (I'd like to specify: Visible, verifiable) from ANY teacher?Who has learned to successfully heal with Chi? From whom?Who has achieved the ability to knock out opponents (sparring or real) using Chi power? Which method?Who is able to send "Chi Balls" that really have an effect? How? Who is able to move or destroy objects using Chi?Or who is at least able making his body sweat in a chilly surrounding through meditation?" ----- Â These might not really be the best benchmark of progress. Â I did start a thread titled "What Results do People Here Have From Training?" where some people have posted results: Â http://thedaobums.com/topic/38454-what-results-do-people-here-have-from-training/ Â I am interested to know what people think are good achievements from qigong and other trainings. Â Â -VonKrankenhaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
